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Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:47 pm
by Crouchy
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Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:08 pm
by .OverThere
URH wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:41 pm
.OverThere wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:22 pm
URH wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:04 am

Their sympathisers justifying the attendance at the funeral by using Noah Donahoe’s funeral is what pisses me off the most

URH, I've not seen anything on that. What's the story there.
Surely they are not comparing funerals of an innocent 14 year old with a man who is allegedly a serial murderer?
Look at any replies on Twitter and you get some Shinnerbots claiming that since there was no/little social distancing at ND’s funeral, and isn’t getting criticism, then you can’t criticise O’Neill. Plum.

It should be used as a weapon. Real leaders do not follow idiots over a cliff.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:24 am
by Zig
Sinn Fein don't do leadership. They prefer taking cheap shots from the long grass.

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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:21 am
by HighKingLeinster
55k cases in the US. November cant come quick enough.

Also, its great that bimbobullet hasnt arrived here yet to tell us everything is fine and the US cases are perfectly normal

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:42 am
by Nols
SF members who attended the funeral were pictured posing with AKs afterward.
The absolute state of them. How they managed to position themselves as the progressive alternative to the tired old parties is mind boggling.


Pubs opening in England today. Going to be a disaster.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:55 am
by HighKingLeinster
Those pictures public Nols?

Its almost a shame that we formed a stable gov given what the shinners have done recently. If the gov lasts 5 years all of this will be forgotten

Edit, saw the fb posts. Truly shocking

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:09 am
by HighKingLeinster
I dont often share political stuff on fb these days but have shared those pics. Needs to be shared as widely as possible

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:34 am
by Camroc2
First creamy pints since the middle of March, last night in Smyths. My they were good. Very good.

Bar staff taking no shite either !

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:35 am
by HighKingLeinster
Yeah went out in Thursday to the local for dinner and hopped off a couple of pints of Genius. Currently out for breakfast as well

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:08 am
by Nols
HighKingLeinster wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:55 am Those pictures public Nols?

Its almost a shame that we formed a stable gov given what the shinners have done recently. If the gov lasts 5 years all of this will be forgotten

Edit, saw the fb posts. Truly shocking
I think back to the build up to the election and think of everyone on Twitter going on and on about how awful FF and FG are and how SF would build a brave new world.
People like Blindboy talking about voting left and shitting on about social justice, roundly dismissing the referendums passed under FG/Labour, ignoring SF's past and economic illiteracy.
On election day you have "up the RA", then yer-one from Kerry being anti-vax. Now the mass gathering at the funeral and dickheads posing with assault rifles.

It's a cult of personality and ideology which exists independent of facts. Varadkar being a "Tory" and MLMD somehow being a champion of the people, just because she's a woman.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:14 am
by iarmhí
They're like Corbyn's party when it existed : woke, populist, magic money tree , anti semitic

The very left if the greens are the same.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:51 am
by CM11
She did not return calls and a statement was later issued by a department spokesperson. "The project at Drumclough National School is an Emergency Works Scheme project for Universal Access works in this school," it said. "All school building programme applications are considered and approved by a technical team within the department. Where a minister or other public representatives enquire about the project, they are informed after a decision is made."
Looks like political naivety. It might have blown up anyway but she really needs a lesson in social media.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:38 am
by Nols
iarmhí wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:14 am They're like Corbyn's party when it existed : woke, populist, magic money tree , anti semitic

The very left if the greens are the same.
Yep. A lot of the same characters appeared on my Twitter timeline going on about voting for Corbyn's Labour and SF.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:26 pm
by redderneck
CM11 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:51 am
She did not return calls and a statement was later issued by a department spokesperson. "The project at Drumclough National School is an Emergency Works Scheme project for Universal Access works in this school," it said. "All school building programme applications are considered and approved by a technical team within the department. Where a minister or other public representatives enquire about the project, they are informed after a decision is made."
Looks like political naivety. It might have blown up anyway but she really needs a lesson in social media.
The lesson on social media should be Lesson 201.

Lesson 101 should be in not being thick.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:52 pm
by fishfoodie
redderneck wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:26 pm
CM11 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:51 am
She did not return calls and a statement was later issued by a department spokesperson. "The project at Drumclough National School is an Emergency Works Scheme project for Universal Access works in this school," it said. "All school building programme applications are considered and approved by a technical team within the department. Where a minister or other public representatives enquire about the project, they are informed after a decision is made."
Looks like political naivety. It might have blown up anyway but she really needs a lesson in social media.
The lesson on social media should be Lesson 201.

Lesson 101 should be in not being thick.
Speaking of not being thick; WFT is going on with FF ???

They're only in power a wet week, & the thick plums are falling all over themselves to look unfit to run a corner shop :roll:

Cowen didn't think he needed to inform his party leader that he'd been done for multiple driving offences; & Kelleher decides that he doesn't need to self-isolate.

Well done lads in taking the focus off SF acting like entitled shits, chapeau !

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:38 pm
by Uncle fester
Anyone else hearing about loads of pigdog and septic tourists wandering around city centres with no distancing or more importantly, no isolating?

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:42 pm
by ASMO
Uncle fester wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:38 pm Anyone else hearing about loads of pigdog and septic tourists wandering around city centres with no distancing or more importantly, no isolating?
The spoons is open, anyone with half a brain could have predicted the outcome. They were apparently queuing up at 6.00 am in my town for their morning fix of spesh or wifebeater

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:57 pm
by Uncle fester

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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:24 pm
by EnergiseR
Looks like great craic. The wan dancing in the background will regret that in about 4 weeks when we are a few hundred cases a day and the Karen's are losing their knickers online. It will be 'Dame lane dancing bird' this and 'Stags Head dancing bint' that. My missus is now refusing to go away next month as she heard the mammies in the school yard are waiting to moan about anybody who has a holiday. Along with the local councillor looking for social distance wardens to go around busy bodying the living shit out of it I actually think this is the preamble to something apocalyptic

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:36 pm
by .OverThere
Uncle fester wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:57 pm
The bar owners are getting a lot of abuse, but I do not see too many people who "obviously" bought from a bar.
There are no pint glasses, but there might be a paper one. Otherwise between the two videos it is bottles and cans. Most probably bought from supermarkets around the corner. Ther are practically no drinkers at all in the 2nd vid.
There is an anti drinking culture who are seemingly allowed to operate without criticism. If I was a twatter user I would be all over them.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:22 pm
by EnergiseR
It's the new online puritanism. Don't have fun and don't holiday and don't drink and don't walk and don't visit and don't move and STOP KILLING MY AUTISTIC CHILD

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:31 pm
by Camroc2
We're off to Westport on Thursday and intend to try every bar that's open. :thumbup:

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:38 pm
by Gav
Are you evil if you laugh at the punchline? https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory ... dlines_hed

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:06 am
by Locke Lamora
Gav wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:38 pm Are you evil if you laugh at the punchline? https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory ... dlines_hed
I had a little chuckle tbh

I think the BLM crowd are in danger of becoming a parody, as they increasingly stray into thought police territory

Fair play to that F1 driver today ..... you can disagree with BLM activism without being racist

What’s happened to today’s youth? When did they become so fecking dull? Is it all down to social media?

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:40 am
by The sun god
Ireland Inc. looking to raise more money through an auction this Thursday...... 7,10 and 30 year maturity.

https://www.ntma.ie/news/ntma-to-hold-b ... -july-2020

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:49 am
by Locke Lamora
The sun god wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:40 am Ireland Inc. looking to raise more money through an auction this Thursday...... 7,10 and 30 year maturity.

https://www.ntma.ie/news/ntma-to-hold-b ... -july-2020
Surely we should be refinancing and extending the terms and tenor of every penny of our debt at this point TSG?

If not now, when?

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:51 am
by Camroc2
The sun god wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:40 am Ireland Inc. looking to raise more money through an auction this Thursday...... 7,10 and 30 year maturity.

https://www.ntma.ie/news/ntma-to-hold-b ... -july-2020
A good marker for where the markets see Ireland, especially as DoF are projecting a budget deficit of between €24 bn and € 30 bn this year. :shock: :shock:

And that will be small compared to our bigger neighbour to the East of us, and the bigger EU economies.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:59 am
by The sun god
Locke Lamora wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:49 am
The sun god wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:40 am Ireland Inc. looking to raise more money through an auction this Thursday...... 7,10 and 30 year maturity.

https://www.ntma.ie/news/ntma-to-hold-b ... -july-2020
Surely we should be refinancing and extending the terms and tenor of every penny of our debt at this point TSG?

If not now, when?
We are though. You might have noticed that the maturities on some of our recent bonds have been extended way out the curve into 20 and 30 year duration's. This is a very new funding model for Ireland as previously we would have only issued paper out to 10 year.
As our redemption's become prompt it looks as though NTMA are extending as much as they can into the future. How much they can get done as a percentage of debt/renewals will depend on the speed that our buyers can extend their limits for..... not too many banks would have a 30 year sovereign credit limit for a small country like ours.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:06 am
by CM11
Any downside to what we're doing?

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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:19 am
by Locke Lamora
CM11 wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:06 am Any downside to what we're doing?
The irony is that the weight and responsibility of the extended debt will fall on the 18-35 yr olds of today, who are most vociferous about big government and massive social spending.

While that generation call for universal basic income, housing as a human right, 4-day weeks, free medical cards for all etc etc, they are the same ones whose state pensions will be revoked by the IMF/EU in 30 years time, if all this “extend and pretend” activity goes badly wrong.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t do it...... I am worried however that the electorate has zero clue about the potential implications.

Who knows ..... economic growth and inflation might take care of the issue over the coming decades?

I’m just worried about the increasing frequency (and amplitude) of all these economic shocks we’ve been experiencing over the last 30 years.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:50 am
by The sun god
Locke Lamora wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:19 am
CM11 wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:06 am Any downside to what we're doing?
The irony is that the weight and responsibility of the extended debt will fall on the 18-35 yr olds of today, who are most vociferous about big government and massive social spending.

While that generation call for universal basic income, housing as a human right, 4-day weeks, free medical cards for all etc etc, they are the same ones whose state pensions will be revoked by the IMF/EU in 30 years time, if all this “extend and pretend” activity goes badly wrong.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t do it...... I am worried however that the electorate has zero clue about the potential implications.

Who knows ..... economic growth and inflation might take care of the issue over the coming decades?

I’m just worried about the increasing frequency (and amplitude) of all these economic shocks we’ve been experiencing over the last 30 years.
As am I....very good point.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:58 am
by The sun god
CM11 wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:06 am Any downside to what we're doing?
when you are dealing in the markets, there is always a downside risk. In theory, euro interest rates could continue their voyage in negative yield territory making any bonds we lock in now look rather expensive with the benefit of hindsight.

In a more abstract scenario , I don't particularly like the very long term funding model as it makes prudent monetary decision making a little more ' pie in the sky'..... as an individual, you would never lock in all your borrowings into a mortgage like timeframe...... it just makes the idea of borrowing much more remote and non personal.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:08 pm
by Hellraiser
I see the mayor of Lisbon intends to ban AirBnB from the city after the Covid crisis is over.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:16 pm
by CM11
The sun god wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:58 am
CM11 wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:06 am Any downside to what we're doing?
when you are dealing in the markets, there is always a downside risk. In theory, euro interest rates could continue their voyage in negative yield territory making any bonds we lock in now look rather expensive with the benefit of hindsight.

In a more abstract scenario , I don't particularly like the very long term funding model as it makes prudent monetary decision making a little more ' pie in the sky'..... as an individual, you would never lock in all your borrowings into a mortgage like timeframe...... it just makes the idea of borrowing much more remote and non personal.
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Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:50 pm
by Locke Lamora
The sun god wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:58 am
CM11 wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:06 am Any downside to what we're doing?
when you are dealing in the markets, there is always a downside risk. In theory, euro interest rates could continue their voyage in negative yield territory making any bonds we lock in now look rather expensive with the benefit of hindsight.

In a more abstract scenario , I don't particularly like the very long term funding model as it makes prudent monetary decision making a little more ' pie in the sky'..... as an individual, you would never lock in all your borrowings into a mortgage like timeframe...... it just makes the idea of borrowing much more remote and non personal.
Indeed

This is why left wing economists think that debt is good and borrowing is a tool to fix all societies ailments. In their own minds they have divorced the 'national debt' from any notion of personal/taxpayer responsibility.

The same cohort will then blame the banks, capitalism, 'the rich', or 'FFG' when it all goes tits up and austerity inevitably ensues.

Just look at how little airtime/analysis the PS pay and pensions bill gets here, when anyone in the media is discussing our current levels of indebtedness.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:47 pm
by HighKingLeinster
2 days in a row with no covid deaths :thumbup:

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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:55 pm
by fishfoodie
HighKingLeinster wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:47 pm 2 days in a row with no covid deaths :thumbup:
I wonder is it possible to get to a New Zealand situation, where we're virus free, & we've the systems in place at ports & airports to test everyone coming into the country ?

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:57 pm
by HighKingLeinster
fishfoodie wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:55 pm
HighKingLeinster wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:47 pm 2 days in a row with no covid deaths :thumbup:
I wonder is it possible to get to a New Zealand situation, where we're virus free, & we've the systems in place at ports & airports to test everyone coming into the country ?
Not with that infested cesspit of the UK beside us.

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:33 pm
by fishfoodie
HighKingLeinster wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:57 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:55 pm
HighKingLeinster wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:47 pm 2 days in a row with no covid deaths :thumbup:
I wonder is it possible to get to a New Zealand situation, where we're virus free, & we've the systems in place at ports & airports to test everyone coming into the country ?
Not with that infested cesspit of the UK beside us.
We can organize sheep dipping for them at the airport; Harpic, or Demestos; their choice !

Re: NAMA NAMA NAMA

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:20 pm
by anonymous_joe
Hellraiser wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:08 pm I see the mayor of Lisbon intends to ban AirBnB from the city after the Covid crisis is over.
Meaningless piffle.

The issue (everywhere) is poor enforcement of planning regimes.

AirBnB offers a good service but everywhere you go there are local governments failing to react quickly enough to its existence.