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Saint wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:13 pm Also, it's looking like the US mortality rate has started to follow the infection curve. Spiked to 1,000 yesterday and today doesn't look like being much better.

Much as I despise Trump and the general GOP response to this thing I really hoped that they'd get away with this

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:49 am

dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:45 am Wow - Sky news article shows up UK Gov for being a bunch of useless, lying twats, no surprises there then?

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... s-12022566

I should be surprised. Shocked.

But I'm not.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:09 am And no way to hold them to account because they have follwed the Trump path of media engagement and regard to the conventions of government.

The PGA Tour has deployed its first Covid-19 threeball after confirming a trio of players who returned positive tests would remain in the field for the Workday Charity Open.

The tour has cited guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) as key to allowing Dylan Frittelli, Denny McCarthy and Nick Watney to play in Ohio but the move is known to have raised eyebrows among fellow competitors.

Late on Wednesday evening, hours before round one was due to get under way, Frittelli, McCarthy and Watney were removed from their existing tee groupings and placed together.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:36 am

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:13 pm Also, it's looking like the US mortality rate has started to follow the infection curve. Spiked to 1,000 yesterday and today doesn't look like being much better.

Much as I despise Trump and the general GOP response to this thing I really hoped that they'd get away with this

Out of curiosity are you looking at an excess deaths figure, or...? I know that Florida for example is essentially hiding away their Covid deaths as "pneumonia".

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:36 am

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:13 pm Also, it's looking like the US mortality rate has started to follow the infection curve. Spiked to 1,000 yesterday and today doesn't look like being much better.

Much as I despise Trump and the general GOP response to this thing I really hoped that they'd get away with this

Out of curiosity are you looking at an excess deaths figure, or...? I know that Florida for example is essentially hiding away their Covid deaths as "pneumonia".

Saint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:20 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:36 am

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:13 pm Also, it's looking like the US mortality rate has started to follow the infection curve. Spiked to 1,000 yesterday and today doesn't look like being much better.

Much as I despise Trump and the general GOP response to this thing I really hoped that they'd get away with this

Out of curiosity are you looking at an excess deaths figure, or...? I know that Florida for example is essentially hiding away their Covid deaths as "pneumonia".

All I'm looking at is reported figures on Worldomoter

There's way to much politics happening to rank about comparative numbers in real time, beyond general observations where numbers look really screwy. USA is in deep trouble now, with the 7 day rolling average moving a long way the wrong way

UPDATE: numbers updated as of July 8, still trending in the right direction. And keep in mind that these numbers include Covid, Flu and pneumonia deaths.

If you’re struggling to stay positive because of all the negative info that is always reported by the media or being shared on social media, remember that there are always positives to find if you sift through the noise. Media and social media in general thrives and survives off emotion, fear, and anxiety and it’s almost impossible to stay positive while being bombarded by all of this.

Covid is real and we need to be responsible humans getting through this. While infections have been going up for a number of weeks now and we need to keep fighting that spread, here’s some positive news that doesn’t get enough attention from the CDC website with info updated as of July 6. No number of deaths are anything to get excited about but the trends going in the right direction are certainly a positive. Since the peak of 16,374 deaths nationwide for the week ending April 18th, the number of deaths per week have been declining while the number of recoveries are clearly increasing at a positively rapid rate each week with a low of 464 deaths the week ending 6/27. Currently for the week ending 7/4 the number of deaths nationwide stands at 71. That final number will change a little throughout this next week so the link is included below for you to keep an eye on it as things progress.

Enzedder wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:43 pm This is a post on FB from a republican

UPDATE: numbers updated as of July 8, still trending in the right direction. And keep in mind that these numbers include Covid, Flu and pneumonia deaths.

If you’re struggling to stay positive because of all the negative info that is always reported by the media or being shared on social media, remember that there are always positives to find if you sift through the noise. Media and social media in general thrives and survives off emotion, fear, and anxiety and it’s almost impossible to stay positive while being bombarded by all of this.

Covid is real and we need to be responsible humans getting through this. While infections have been going up for a number of weeks now and we need to keep fighting that spread, here’s some positive news that doesn’t get enough attention from the CDC website with info updated as of July 6. No number of deaths are anything to get excited about but the trends going in the right direction are certainly a positive. Since the peak of 16,374 deaths nationwide for the week ending April 18th, the number of deaths per week have been declining while the number of recoveries are clearly increasing at a positively rapid rate each week with a low of 464 deaths the week ending 6/27. Currently for the week ending 7/4 the number of deaths nationwide stands at 71. That final number will change a little throughout this next week so the link is included below for you to keep an eye on it as things progress.

When questioned about the Worldometers total for yesterday, he basically said that it's wrong and his figures are from CDC.

However, CDC figures take weeks to be generated from County medical Examiners records but you can see what they are up against - it's getting better in their minds even though infection rates are at record levels.

Trump has a lot to answer for

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:55 pm Can you folks help me here please:

So, our office of 12 people has just gone back into the building 2 days a week in "bubbles" of 6 people. I won't ever be in the building at the same time as the other bubble, just my group of 6 for the next 2-3 months.

Full 2m social distancing is strictly enforced, signs and one-way systems all over the floor, huge gaps between desks and all the masks and hand wash you could ever need, etc.
Meetings of more than 3 are banned and no outside visitors allowed.
It's well done actually.
Bosses are keen to "get back to normal", but our safety is paramount, blah blah.

I'm in Bubble 2, but I've just heard that Bubble 1 has booked a table for lunch at the local pub on Monday to go out for a 50% off burgers & a couple of pints.

Now...am I being ridiculous if I object to this on the grounds that:
1) there is no way these 6 will be able to maintain a 2m social distance in a pub and
2) surely this constitutes a meeting of more than 3 staff in an enclosed space and
3) it's a risk to the business that those 6 have to socially isolate at home if the pub gets infected at any time on Monday (not to mention that the other 6 of us will be overwhelmed by work if they actually get sick and go into hospital)

I expect to get roasted by Bubble 1 if I bring this up, but I also feel they are being extremely thick/careless! Thoughts?

Saint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:05 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:55 pm Can you folks help me here please:

So, our office of 12 people has just gone back into the building 2 days a week in "bubbles" of 6 people. I won't ever be in the building at the same time as the other bubble, just my group of 6 for the next 2-3 months.

Full 2m social distancing is strictly enforced, signs and one-way systems all over the floor, huge gaps between desks and all the masks and hand wash you could ever need, etc.
Meetings of more than 3 are banned and no outside visitors allowed.
It's well done actually.
Bosses are keen to "get back to normal", but our safety is paramount, blah blah.

I'm in Bubble 2, but I've just heard that Bubble 1 has booked a table for lunch at the local pub on Monday to go out for a 50% off burgers & a couple of pints.

Now...am I being ridiculous if I object to this on the grounds that:
1) there is no way these 6 will be able to maintain a 2m social distance in a pub and
2) surely this constitutes a meeting of more than 3 staff in an enclosed space and
3) it's a risk to the business that those 6 have to socially isolate at home if the pub gets infected at any time on Monday (not to mention that the other 6 of us will be overwhelmed by work if they actually get sick and go into hospital)

I expect to get roasted by Bubble 1 if I bring this up, but I also feel they are being extremely thick/careless! Thoughts?

I would have thought this was pretty straightforward. The pub itself ought to object as it's a group involving more than 2 households. But from a business perspective, it's difficult to enforce what employees do during their lunchbreak, beyond telling them that they're being idiots

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:08 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:05 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:55 pm Can you folks help me here please:

So, our office of 12 people has just gone back into the building 2 days a week in "bubbles" of 6 people. I won't ever be in the building at the same time as the other bubble, just my group of 6 for the next 2-3 months.

Full 2m social distancing is strictly enforced, signs and one-way systems all over the floor, huge gaps between desks and all the masks and hand wash you could ever need, etc.
Meetings of more than 3 are banned and no outside visitors allowed.
It's well done actually.
Bosses are keen to "get back to normal", but our safety is paramount, blah blah.

I'm in Bubble 2, but I've just heard that Bubble 1 has booked a table for lunch at the local pub on Monday to go out for a 50% off burgers & a couple of pints.

Now...am I being ridiculous if I object to this on the grounds that:
1) there is no way these 6 will be able to maintain a 2m social distance in a pub and
2) surely this constitutes a meeting of more than 3 staff in an enclosed space and
3) it's a risk to the business that those 6 have to socially isolate at home if the pub gets infected at any time on Monday (not to mention that the other 6 of us will be overwhelmed by work if they actually get sick and go into hospital)

I expect to get roasted by Bubble 1 if I bring this up, but I also feel they are being extremely thick/careless! Thoughts?

I would have thought this was pretty straightforward. The pub itself ought to object as it's a group involving more than 2 households. But from a business perspective, it's difficult to enforce what employees do during their lunchbreak, beyond telling them that they're being idiots

But what's the point of having strict rules 09:00 - 12:00 in the office, then "allowing" them to sit for for 1 hour 0.5 meters apart and share a pizza? Might as well come back @ 13:30 and push all the desks back together and pretend it's 2019 again......

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:55 pm Can you folks help me here please:

So, our office of 12 people has just gone back into the building 2 days a week in "bubbles" of 6 people. I won't ever be in the building at the same time as the other bubble, just my group of 6 for the next 2-3 months.

Full 2m social distancing is strictly enforced, signs and one-way systems all over the floor, huge gaps between desks and all the masks and hand wash you could ever need, etc.
Meetings of more than 3 are banned and no outside visitors allowed.
It's well done actually.
Bosses are keen to "get back to normal", but our safety is paramount, blah blah.

I'm in Bubble 2, but I've just heard that Bubble 1 has booked a table for lunch at the local pub on Monday to go out for a 50% off burgers & a couple of pints.

Now...am I being ridiculous if I object to this on the grounds that:
1) there is no way these 6 will be able to maintain a 2m social distance in a pub and
2) surely this constitutes a meeting of more than 3 staff in an enclosed space and
3) it's a risk to the business that those 6 have to socially isolate at home if the pub gets infected at any time on Monday (not to mention that the other 6 of us will be overwhelmed by work if they actually get sick and go into hospital)

I expect to get roasted by Bubble 1 if I bring this up, but I also feel they are being extremely thick/careless! Thoughts?

Saint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:11 pm But they also need to understand that a group of 6 people from more than 2 households going to the pub together is breaking the national rules, not the company rules which can't be enforced on people when they're taking their lunchbreak (unless someone in HR can say otherwise)

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:15 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:11 pm But they also need to understand that a group of 6 people from more than 2 households going to the pub together is breaking the national rules, not the company rules which can't be enforced on people when they're taking their lunchbreak (unless someone in HR can say otherwise)

Anyone?

I am annoyed enough that I have to return to the office 2 days a week when I've been cruising work-wise at home and also avoiding ALL situations where I could get Covid (like having beers in a garden with mates).

I know that some members of both Bubbles at work have been far less careful about catching Covid than I have....and I would have told them to Go Fish! if they asked me to go to the pub next week!

ASMO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:36 pm I am not planning going anywhere near any of my offices until the New Year at the earliest, indeed i may never go back into one at all, i can work from home with no issues and no loss of productvity and it saves me nearly 5k a year in train tickets

ASMO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:36 pm I am not planning going anywhere near any of my offices until the New Year at the earliest, indeed i may never go back into one at all, i can work from home with no issues and no loss of productvity and it saves me nearly 5k a year in train tickets

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:15 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:11 pm But they also need to understand that a group of 6 people from more than 2 households going to the pub together is breaking the national rules, not the company rules which can't be enforced on people when they're taking their lunchbreak (unless someone in HR can say otherwise)

Anyone?

I am annoyed enough that I have to return to the office 2 days a week when I've been cruising work-wise at home and also avoiding ALL situations where I could get Covid (like having beers in a garden with mates).

I know that some members of both Bubbles at work have been far less careful about catching Covid than I have....and I would have told them to Go Fish! if they asked me to go to the pub next week!

Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:57 am Death numbers all taking a steep rise in Florida, Texas and California. Also a spike in New Jersey which is a bit unexpected.

ASMO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:36 pm I am not planning going anywhere near any of my offices until the New Year at the earliest, indeed i may never go back into one at all, i can work from home with no issues and no loss of productvity and it saves me nearly 5k a year in train tickets

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:55 pm Can you folks help me here please:

So, our office of 12 people has just gone back into the building 2 days a week in "bubbles" of 6 people. I won't ever be in the building at the same time as the other bubble, just my group of 6 for the next 2-3 months.

Full 2m social distancing is strictly enforced, signs and one-way systems all over the floor, huge gaps between desks and all the masks and hand wash you could ever need, etc.
Meetings of more than 3 are banned and no outside visitors allowed.
It's well done actually.
Bosses are keen to "get back to normal", but our safety is paramount, blah blah.

I'm in Bubble 2, but I've just heard that Bubble 1 has booked a table for lunch at the local pub on Monday to go out for a 50% off burgers & a couple of pints.

Now...am I being ridiculous if I object to this on the grounds that:
1) there is no way these 6 will be able to maintain a 2m social distance in a pub and
2) surely this constitutes a meeting of more than 3 staff in an enclosed space and
3) it's a risk to the business that those 6 have to socially isolate at home if the pub gets infected at any time on Monday (not to mention that the other 6 of us will be overwhelmed by work if they actually get sick and go into hospital)

I expect to get roasted by Bubble 1 if I bring this up, but I also feel they are being extremely thick/careless! Thoughts?

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:53 pm So I called #2 in the firm and expressed my concern. He’ll call the Leader of the Bubble 1 Bastards to stop their evil plans.

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:43 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:36 pm I am not planning going anywhere near any of my offices until the New Year at the earliest, indeed i may never go back into one at all, i can work from home with no issues and no loss of productvity and it saves me nearly 5k a year in train tickets

My son started a new job 4 or 5 weeks ago. Based out of the Wellcome/Sanger Institute building in Cambridge
He's been told it's unlikely he'll meet with the office based staff face to face until the new year!!!

Saint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:07 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:43 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:36 pm I am not planning going anywhere near any of my offices until the New Year at the earliest, indeed i may never go back into one at all, i can work from home with no issues and no loss of productvity and it saves me nearly 5k a year in train tickets

My son started a new job 4 or 5 weeks ago. Based out of the Wellcome/Sanger Institute building in Cambridge
He's been told it's unlikely he'll meet with the office based staff face to face until the new year!!!

Just finished a call with a major tech firm. They are targeting opening the UK office again sometime around June next year. Their Silicon Valley HQ is on indefinite closure

Saint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:07 pm
Just finished a call with a major tech firm. They are targeting opening the UK office again sometime around June next year. Their Silicon Valley HQ is on indefinite closure

Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:04 pm You can get 1 free article a month if you sign up.

Longshanks wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:08 pm

Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:04 pm You can get 1 free article a month if you sign up.

I did sign up.
But just wasn't reading it enough to justify so cancelled. Im sure another news source will have this soon enough

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:54 pm So on Thursday, after a day in the office, I get home and don't feel so great . by 9pm , my temp goes to 39.2. Rough night, lots of shivers and lying on cold bathroom tiles. Manage 2-3 hours of sleep, wake up ~6am and my guts let go.

Temp 38.2, but no other COVID symptoms. I can't go back to work until I've done a COVID test, go online and book a home kit test (wasn't really in any good state to drive to a drive-in test center). All very straight forward but some info being asked for seems a bit unnecessary, particularly sharing my details with some 3rd party company to check fraud?

Anyway, rough Friday, slept most of the afternoon in a heavy sweat but temp below 37.5 by late afternoon and feeling better, just a stonker of headache. any water, food still going straight through me. At this point I'm sure it's a bit of dodgy food poisoning, I has something very similar in Feb.

Anyway, wake to an email reminding me to to the test, if I haven't already and return it ASAP - a little difficult since it's not arrived yet.

Morning post arrives, no test. Here we go I think.

Feel much better during the course of the day, now holding down food and no longer spray painting the porcelain Just a bit of stiff neck now, probably from cold floor stints trying to break the fever.

Eventually at 17:30 today the kit arrives courtesy of Amazon.

I open it and get ready to take the test,

Step One: Book your courier by going to Royal mail site.

Go to Site, It's Closed after 16:00, try again at 8am tomorrow - https://collections.royalmail.com/closed

So I have to wait for tomorrow, book courier for Monday now? and then wait for results, in the meantime I can't go back to work and everyone in the house has to isolate until I get the test result back.

Any idea how long after posting the kit you get your results back?

I can't return to work until I've had the test result back, assuming it's negative. If positive does my 14 days start from Thursday (when I first showed symptoms), or can I just use Cummings/Farage common sense and wing it suit myself?

Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:11 pm

Longshanks wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:08 pm

Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:04 pm You can get 1 free article a month if you sign up.

I did sign up.
But just wasn't reading it enough to justify so cancelled. Im sure another news source will have this soon enough

Cancelled? Why? You don't have to pay anything for the 1 free article (hence the free).