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JM2K6 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:20 am That's a hell of a tagline. I can just imagine the ads now...
That did make me chuckle. Not a claim to fame you want to be shouting about!
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JM2K6 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:20 am
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Kawazaki wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:59 pm Let's face it, Johannesburg is world standard at gun crime, murder and rape. There are even Americans who would call it excessive in Joburg.
Joburg is a big place, you could walk through most parts and never hear a gunshot. But good on you to channel your inner AC.
That's a hell of a tagline. I can just imagine the ads now...
It's better than "Come visit London, where gangs of 13 year olds hold you at knife point for your sneakers"
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Look, we're not going to let you guys into our competition just so you can have a circle jerk on the farm about how you've told the kiwis to fuck off.

So jog on.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:16 am
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:20 am
average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:49 am
Joburg is a big place, you could walk through most parts and never hear a gunshot. But good on you to channel your inner AC.
That's a hell of a tagline. I can just imagine the ads now...
It's better than "Come visit London, where gangs of 13 year olds hold you at knife point for your sneakers"
If you're a fellow 13 year old gang member, maybe - and I don't think anyone in London would mention it as a defence :crazy:

Hey, just out of interest, what's the comparison like between major SA cities and London when it comes to knife crime? I can only find basic murder rates, where Joburg is in the top 50 worldwide, and London, well, isn't. London averages between 100 and 150 murders per year. Joburg? About 2000. Wonderful Cape Town? Well, that's 8th on the list, and averages 3000 a year.

But I'm sure London is bad in comparison when it comes to knife crime.

Well, reasonably sure.
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JM2K6 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:13 pm If you're a fellow 13 year old gang member, maybe - and I don't think anyone in London would mention it as a defence :crazy:

Hey, just out of interest, what's the comparison like between major SA cities and London when it comes to knife crime? I can only find basic murder rates, where Joburg is in the top 50 worldwide, and London, well, isn't. London averages between 100 and 150 murders per year. Joburg? About 2000. Wonderful Cape Town? Well, that's 8th on the list, and averages 3000 a year.

But I'm sure London is bad in comparison when it comes to knife crime.

Well, reasonably sure.
I've lived in both cities and you can't even compare the two. This is not an argument South Africa can win.
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JM2K6 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:13 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:16 am
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:20 am

That's a hell of a tagline. I can just imagine the ads now...
It's better than "Come visit London, where gangs of 13 year olds hold you at knife point for your sneakers"
If you're a fellow 13 year old gang member, maybe - and I don't think anyone in London would mention it as a defence :crazy:

Hey, just out of interest, what's the comparison like between major SA cities and London when it comes to knife crime? I can only find basic murder rates, where Joburg is in the top 50 worldwide, and London, well, isn't. London averages between 100 and 150 murders per year. Joburg? About 2000. Wonderful Cape Town? Well, that's 8th on the list, and averages 3000 a year.

But I'm sure London is bad in comparison when it comes to knife crime.

Well, reasonably sure.
See, we even beat you on crime stats. We have real criminals though and can handle it. Fok being scared of a bunch of pubescent kids with a pocket knife and a pair of scissors.
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Another cracking tourism slogan :thumbup:
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assfly wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:23 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:13 pm If you're a fellow 13 year old gang member, maybe - and I don't think anyone in London would mention it as a defence :crazy:

Hey, just out of interest, what's the comparison like between major SA cities and London when it comes to knife crime? I can only find basic murder rates, where Joburg is in the top 50 worldwide, and London, well, isn't. London averages between 100 and 150 murders per year. Joburg? About 2000. Wonderful Cape Town? Well, that's 8th on the list, and averages 3000 a year.

But I'm sure London is bad in comparison when it comes to knife crime.

Well, reasonably sure.
I've lived in both cities and you can't even compare the two. This is not an argument South Africa can win.
Who needs enemies with friends like you? You should be ashamed of your gat-kruiping, but then again what should we expect from a whenwe with a British passport yeah?
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JM2K6 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:57 pm Another cracking tourism slogan :thumbup:
Look boet, we can go in circles all day long with rape and murder stats. The facts are that your bean counters at HQ are licking their chops as we speak for the SA TV revenue. What you or ten other poms think does not matter, what matters is the $.
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average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:00 pm Who needs enemies with friends like you? You should be ashamed of your gat-kruiping, but then again what should we expect from a whenwe with a British passport yeah?
No need to get personal. If you're going to argue for South Africa's inclusion in the Six Nations, do it properly.
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assfly wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:11 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:00 pm Who needs enemies with friends like you? You should be ashamed of your gat-kruiping, but then again what should we expect from a whenwe with a British passport yeah?
No need to get personal. If you're going to argue for South Africa's inclusion in the Six Nations, do it properly.
I don't need to argue for anything, it's an inevitability.
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average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:15 pm
assfly wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:11 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:00 pm Who needs enemies with friends like you? You should be ashamed of your gat-kruiping, but then again what should we expect from a whenwe with a British passport yeah?
No need to get personal. If you're going to argue for South Africa's inclusion in the Six Nations, do it properly.
I don't need to argue for anything, it's an inevitability.
I can hear your little fist banging off the underside of your desk from here. Make sure and clean up afterwards.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:07 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:57 pm Another cracking tourism slogan :thumbup:
Look boet, we can go in circles all day long with rape and murder stats. The facts are that your bean counters at HQ are licking their chops as we speak for the SA TV revenue. What you or ten other poms think does not matter, what matters is the $.
Those tens of ABC1 viewers will be hot stuff for sure.

Mind you, the RFU would be licking their lips over the proceeds from a lemonade stall at the moment - which would probably be better managed financially speaking
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There will never be a 6N with South Africa in it or even a 7N. It’s just stupid to even debate it.

If SA do look to another Test Championship beyond the existing SH series, it’ll be if the N Americans ever get their shit together. That’s where the real money is.
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:28 pm There will never be a 6N with South Africa in it or even a 7N. It’s just stupid to even debate it.

If SA do look to another Test Championship beyond the existing SH series, it’ll be if the N Americans ever get their shit together. That’s where the real money is.
Americans feel fokol for Rugby. They have their ice hockey, basketball and gridiron.
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Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:19 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:15 pm
assfly wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:11 pm

No need to get personal. If you're going to argue for South Africa's inclusion in the Six Nations, do it properly.
I don't need to argue for anything, it's an inevitability.
I can hear your little fist banging off the underside of your desk from here. Make sure and clean up afterwards.
You must be confusing me with Sandy. I don't have little fist.
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average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:35 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:28 pm There will never be a 6N with South Africa in it or even a 7N. It’s just stupid to even debate it.

If SA do look to another Test Championship beyond the existing SH series, it’ll be if the N Americans ever get their shit together. That’s where the real money is.
Americans feel fokol for Rugby. They have their ice hockey, basketball and gridiron.
Given you've missed the most popular US sport off the list, it's another demonstration of your understanding of sports markets.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:37 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:35 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:28 pm There will never be a 6N with South Africa in it or even a 7N. It’s just stupid to even debate it.

If SA do look to another Test Championship beyond the existing SH series, it’ll be if the N Americans ever get their shit together. That’s where the real money is.
Americans feel fokol for Rugby. They have their ice hockey, basketball and gridiron.
Given you've missed the most popular US sport off the list, it's another demonstration of your understanding of sports markets.
What did I miss, Golf?
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average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:39 pm
Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:37 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:35 pm

Americans feel fokol for Rugby. They have their ice hockey, basketball and gridiron.
Given you've missed the most popular US sport off the list, it's another demonstration of your understanding of sports markets.
What did I miss, Golf?
Baseball. It's more than just a sport, it's an inherent part of the culture, across all states, unlike the others.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Look boet, I know I'm just a dumb farmer from SA. I don't know a lot about sports in North America but I do know gridiron and basketball is the two biggest sports in the US and Ice hockey is the number one sport in Canada. Canada has been playing rugby for how long now? Rugby is going nowhere slowly over there.
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average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:55 pm Look boet, I know I'm just a dumb farmer from SA.
We all know that fella. It's pretty obvious.
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Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:52 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:39 pm
Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:37 pm

Given you've missed the most popular US sport off the list, it's another demonstration of your understanding of sports markets.
What did I miss, Golf?
Baseball. It's more than just a sport, it's an inherent part of the culture, across all states, unlike the others.
You're only right on one thing. It's not a sport.
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Yanks only like baseball because they can stuff their fat faces with corn dogs and bud light. No one actually cares about watching the game because it's worse than watching paint dry.
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average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:55 pm Look boet, I know I'm just a dumb farmer from SA. I don't know a lot about sports in North America but I do know gridiron and basketball is the two biggest sports in the US and Ice hockey is the number one sport in Canada. Canada has been playing rugby for how long now? Rugby is going nowhere slowly over there.
Can you point to any non baseball team that sells more than 3,000,000 home tickets a year? Baseball has 5 teams that do that. Baseball leads the way in the US. You might hear more about NFL and Basketball, but that's because they are more internationalised - Baseball is bigger in the USA. Look at the contracts offered to sportsmen - in the top 20 in the US, 2 are NFL contracts, 1 is basketball and 16 are baseball. Every kid has a glove - they don't all have footballs or basketballs. Every tiny little town has a diamond; you can see them everywhere as you fly across the USA - you don't see other sports pitches to the same extent.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:02 pm Yanks only like baseball because they can stuff their fat faces with corn dogs and Bud light
Ja, those Cheetahs fans in Bloem are all models for Oxfam :lol:
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Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:04 pm
Can you point to any non baseball team that sells more than 3,000,000 home tickets a year? Baseball has 5 teams that do that.

Do they play a lot of games in baseball? I thought that a football team like River Plate or Real Madrid would be the best-supported, maybe even Man U, their grounds are almost twice the size of Yankee stadium


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The Major League Baseball (MLB) season schedule generally consists of 162 games for each of the 30 teams in the American League (AL) and National League (NL), played over approximately six months—a total of 2,430 games, plus the postseason.
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Tichtheid wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:35 pm
Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:04 pm
Can you point to any non baseball team that sells more than 3,000,000 home tickets a year? Baseball has 5 teams that do that.

Do they play a lot of games in baseball? I thought that a football team like River Plate or Real Madrid would be the best-supported, maybe even Man U, their grounds are almost twice the size of Yankee stadium


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The Major League Baseball (MLB) season schedule generally consists of 162 games for each of the 30 teams in the American League (AL) and National League (NL), played over approximately six months—a total of 2,430 games, plus the postseason.
Yeah, the point being that a team can have that many games, and STILL sell tens of thousands of tickets to every game, six days a week. I doubt another sport anywhere could do that. Boston's average attendance is 36,106 in a stadium that holds 37,755. For 81 games a year.
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:05 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:02 pm Yanks only like baseball because they can stuff their fat faces with corn dogs and Bud light
Ja, those Cheetahs fans in Bloem are all models for Oxfam :lol:
You called.
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Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:49 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:35 pm
Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:04 pm
Can you point to any non baseball team that sells more than 3,000,000 home tickets a year? Baseball has 5 teams that do that.

Do they play a lot of games in baseball? I thought that a football team like River Plate or Real Madrid would be the best-supported, maybe even Man U, their grounds are almost twice the size of Yankee stadium


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The Major League Baseball (MLB) season schedule generally consists of 162 games for each of the 30 teams in the American League (AL) and National League (NL), played over approximately six months—a total of 2,430 games, plus the postseason.
Yeah, the point being that a team can have that many games, and STILL sell tens of thousands of tickets to every game, six days a week. I doubt another sport anywhere could do that. Boston's average attendance is 36,106 in a stadium that holds 37,755. For 81 games a year.
That is remarkable.
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Ellis Park has the fattest supporters. Remember this guy. Was a useful boxer in his day. Passed away earlier this year. RIP.
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Loftus not to be outdone.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:11 pm Ellis Park has the fattest supporters. Remember this guy. Was a useful boxer in his day. Passed away earlier this year. RIP.

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Slick wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:18 pm
FalseBayFC wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:11 pm Ellis Park has the fattest supporters. Remember this guy. Was a useful boxer in his day. Passed away earlier this year. RIP.

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Are you sure thats not Liverpool?
Ex Heavyweight boxer and rabid Lions supporter Jimmy Abbott.
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This thread just keep on giving.
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Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:04 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:55 pm Look boet, I know I'm just a dumb farmer from SA. I don't know a lot about sports in North America but I do know gridiron and basketball is the two biggest sports in the US and Ice hockey is the number one sport in Canada. Canada has been playing rugby for how long now? Rugby is going nowhere slowly over there.
Can you point to any non baseball team that sells more than 3,000,000 home tickets a year? Baseball has 5 teams that do that. Baseball leads the way in the US. You might hear more about NFL and Basketball, but that's because they are more internationalised - Baseball is bigger in the USA. Look at the contracts offered to sportsmen - in the top 20 in the US, 2 are NFL contracts, 1 is basketball and 16 are baseball. Every kid has a glove - they don't all have footballs or basketballs. Every tiny little town has a diamond; you can see them everywhere as you fly across the USA - you don't see other sports pitches to the same extent.
So baseballs big in the US. That's grand, add it to the list along with Nascar, soccer and bowls. Fok, add playing marbles if you want to. It just reinforces my point that they feel fokol about rugby.
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:05 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:02 pm Yanks only like baseball because they can stuff their fat faces with corn dogs and Bud light
Ja, those Cheetahs fans in Bloem are all models for Oxfam :lol:
What fans?
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:33 pm This thread just keep on giving.
I try oom but with guys like AF and Sandy backing me up they'd probably find me in some gutter in Hackney with a pair of scissors stuck in my back.
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average joe wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:35 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:33 pm This thread just keep on giving.
I try oom but with guys like AF and Sandy backing me up they'd probably find me in some gutter in Hackney with a pair of scissors stuck in my back.
Vokken souties.
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average joe wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:25 am
Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:04 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:55 pm Look boet, I know I'm just a dumb farmer from SA. I don't know a lot about sports in North America but I do know gridiron and basketball is the two biggest sports in the US and Ice hockey is the number one sport in Canada. Canada has been playing rugby for how long now? Rugby is going nowhere slowly over there.
Can you point to any non baseball team that sells more than 3,000,000 home tickets a year? Baseball has 5 teams that do that. Baseball leads the way in the US. You might hear more about NFL and Basketball, but that's because they are more internationalised - Baseball is bigger in the USA. Look at the contracts offered to sportsmen - in the top 20 in the US, 2 are NFL contracts, 1 is basketball and 16 are baseball. Every kid has a glove - they don't all have footballs or basketballs. Every tiny little town has a diamond; you can see them everywhere as you fly across the USA - you don't see other sports pitches to the same extent.
So baseballs big in the US. That's grand, add it to the list along with Nascar, soccer and bowls. Fok, add playing marbles if you want to. It just reinforces my point that they feel fokol about rugby.
It adds to the evidence that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. No understanding of what makes the 6Ns the most successful rugby tournament in the world. Pretty typical of SH rugby, who have a record of creating shit tournaments, and taking what is decent, mincing it up and shitting it into the gutter. You're not going to do that to Six Nations.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:47 am
average joe wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:25 am
Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:04 pm

Can you point to any non baseball team that sells more than 3,000,000 home tickets a year? Baseball has 5 teams that do that. Baseball leads the way in the US. You might hear more about NFL and Basketball, but that's because they are more internationalised - Baseball is bigger in the USA. Look at the contracts offered to sportsmen - in the top 20 in the US, 2 are NFL contracts, 1 is basketball and 16 are baseball. Every kid has a glove - they don't all have footballs or basketballs. Every tiny little town has a diamond; you can see them everywhere as you fly across the USA - you don't see other sports pitches to the same extent.
So baseballs big in the US. That's grand, add it to the list along with Nascar, soccer and bowls. Fok, add playing marbles if you want to. It just reinforces my point that they feel fokol about rugby.
It adds to the evidence that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. No understanding of what makes the 6Ns the most successful rugby tournament in the world. Pretty typical of SH rugby, who have a record of creating shit tournaments, and taking what is decent, mincing it up and shitting it into the gutter. You're not going to do that to Six Nations.
You and who's going to stop it? You can go on and on here about how big baseball is in the US and how stupid I am but it wont change anything. If the suits say it's going to happen, it will happen.

South Africa is a Rugby powerhouse. The Springboks are 3 times world champions. They're a top team and a recognizable brand. SA entering the 6N will liven it up and make it more competitive. It will open up untapped markets and make it a more prestigious competition.
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