Things that don't deserve their own thread

[epwc]

To add I had to intervene in one patient v staff incident and one patients family v staff incident

[Blackmac]

Handshakes.
What is it with every lad under 40 nowadays that feels the need to try and squeeze your hand ridiculously hard when shaking hands. Some bullshit contrived way of trying to show their masculinity. Shake hands normally you wankers!!

[Uncle fester]

Toughen up you old princess

Plenty of wet fish handshakes out there still

[fishfoodie]

To add I had to intervene in one patient v staff incident and one patients family v staff incident

I recently spent a couple of nights on a ward, where I was the youngest patient by a couple of decades, & there was one guy who was lucky I didn't hobble over in the middle of the night & put a pillow over his face !

He was okay by day, but he was obviously tickling over the edge of senility, & at night he'd wake up & not have a clue where he was, but he turned into a vile racist, misogynist cunt.

As ever in my experience the staff are absolutely brilliant, & can't do enough for you, but they have a really tough number, & they just don't have the capacity to put the problem cases in lower occupancy units so the rest of us can just get a nights sleep, & the staff don't get abused.

[epwc]

One night when FIL was in his most boisterous bolshi phase of his hospital stay he tried to organise a breakout “lads my cars downstairs, as soon as these lot get out we’re making a run for it”

This apparently went on very loudly all night, every 15 mins or so.

Yeah, proper tough gig, for staff and other patients.

[fishfoodie]

One night when FIL was in his most boisterous bolshi phase of his hospital stay he tried to organise a breakout “lads my cars downstairs, as soon as these lot get out we’re making a run for it”

This apparently went on very loudly all night, every 15 mins or so.

Yeah, proper tough gig, for staff and other patients.

It is, & it's why it's a real vocation; there's a limit to what they can do, & they know that the poor sod isn't themselves, & they can't be blamed for acting out when they've been taken from that place where they have some small measure of familiarity & dropped into the place where they wake you up & stick needles in you & there's no-one you know.

Civilization might be three meals away from anarchy, but for me it's more like 72 hours without a few hours sleep.

..... on the plus side, the hospital food was surprisingly good; I've had worse in the staff canteen

[dpedin]

1 in 3 staff in NHS in SE are non UK registered so good luck anyone trying the racist shit there and getting treated! My last surgery here in Embra was done by a very professional Indian surgeon and I was looked after by a fantastic team of nurses from Scotland, Ireland and Africa nations. The anesthetist was English I think. If folk want to be racist then make them go private and pay extra for what they want, perhaps Farage will set up an AllWhiteHealthcare Insurance Company? If they are in the NHS then they either behave or get chucked out. No time for racist, misogynistic c**ts.

[epwc]

No time for racist, misogynistic c**ts.

During the time of FILs stay the consultant was under investigation for a complaint against him, as was one of the senior nurses. The senior nurse has now left the NHS, we had a party for all the people that had been involved in his care and the guy (white British) was emotionally broken, he said he needs to take a break before he goes back into the NHS.

The people who complain generate a huge amount of admin work throughout the system, and have a real impact on the delivery of healthcare. That's why the default position is "lets try not to upset the racist misogynist cunts".

[Gumboot]

Good article in the NZ Herald about the recent racism row at North Shore Hospital:

North Shore Hospital patient request to avoid Asian staff: We cannot put up with racial intolerance in our health system - Dr Nina Su

...In a public service such as Te Whatu Ora-Health New Zealand, managers are more likely to undergo mandatory diversity, equity and inclusion training. So why, when given a textbook example of racism, did [NSH] management respond by perpetuating it to their own employees?

Best-case scenario, these management decisions were made out of compassion for the patient and protectionism over our Asian staff. But this is not compassion. This is patronising, condescending and at worst, an infringement on basic human rights by an employer prohibiting their employees’ ability to do their job solely based on their race. Even more concerning are the allegations people were prevented from speaking out.

This sets a dangerous precedent.

https://archive.ph/9L0HH

[Niegs]

Rural Americans...

[sturginho]

Typical scrum half

[Niegs]

She’s so proud of the initialism she created!

[Uncle fester]

Typical scrum half

That's one of the Changlengs, isn't it?

[Slick]

It doesn’t deserve its own thread, because it’s shit. But I see the Nations Cup thingy has managed to not sign up for the first 4 finals being held in Qatar, just two of the first 4 - Twickenham and USA being the others

[Biffer]

It doesn’t deserve its own thread, because it’s shit. But I see the Nations Cup thingy has managed to not sign up for the first 4 finals being held in Qatar, just two of the first 4 - Twickenham and USA being the others

Utter fucking pish. Aussies and spivs pissing the game up the wall. Fuck them.

[tabascoboy]

Oh, the ironing...

https://apnews.com/article/germany-fire ... a5bc6bfd9b

BERLIN (AP) — A brand-new fire station in Germany, which was destroyed in a fire, causing millions of euros in damage and destroyed equipment did not have a fire alarm system, local media reported Thursday.

The fire broke out early Wednesday morning at the Stadtallendorf fire station in Hesse and destroyed, among other things, the equipment hall and almost a dozen emergency vehicles, German news agency dpa reported. Initial estimates put the damage at between 20 million and 24 million euros ($21 million to $26 million). No one was injured.

Local officials told dpa that no fire alarm system was installed in the building because experts had considered it not necessary — much to the astonishment of many observers now that the station has burned down.

[fishfoodie]

It doesn’t deserve its own thread, because it’s shit. But I see the Nations Cup thingy has managed to not sign up for the first 4 finals being held in Qatar, just two of the first 4 - Twickenham and USA being the others

Utter fucking pish. Aussies and spivs pissing the game up the wall. Fuck them.

Yeah just saw the eggchasers guys video about it; utter jokeshop, the RFU, WRU & ARU shouldn't be allowed to fuck up the entire sport because their blazers are cretins !

Beaumont was a shit Captain, of a shit side, & he's now a fucking predictably shit administrator !!

Sure the other Unions would like more money, if it involves Qatar it's just fucking sports washing for a bunch of vile cunts.

[sockwithaticket]

Between Eddie's last few years with England and Wasps going into administration, my interest in rugby has been waning and it seems like those entrusted with running the game are trying to kill it off.

[Enzedder]

Lets build a new suburban retail centre they said

Let's build a new road thru the heart of it they said

Let's build 10 pedestrian crossings on 350 metres they said

So they did



https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3504259 ... sings-350m

[Biffer]

NHS seeking suggestions from the public

https://change.nhs.uk/en-GB/projects/yo ... for-change

I particularly like 'Replace Ambulance Sirens with Healthy Eating Advice'

[inactionman]

NHS seeking suggestions from the public

https://change.nhs.uk/en-GB/projects/yo ... for-change

I particularly like 'Replace Ambulance Sirens with Healthy Eating Advice'

The first one on the list is definitely something I'd support.

Stop giving out paper leaflets and sending letters

[Guy Smiley]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... upermarket

Wildlife services are working to rescue a cockatoo called Mickey that has been “living on brioche” inside a Sydney supermarket for four weeks.

The New South Wales environment minister, Penny Sharpe, on Tuesday promised the bird was “not going to be shot” after false rumours of a “kill order” had spread online.

The minister said she had directed the NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service to work with grocery retailer Coles and rescue groups to help save Mickey.

“National Parks is in contact with wildlife rescue groups and staff at Coles Macarthur Square,” she said. “Mickey will be freed.”


Sharpe said wildlife rescue organisation Wires was planning to deploy another team on Tuesday to try and rescue the bird and “release him into the wild where he belongs”.


The bird has been stuck inside the Coles supermarket in Campbelltown for weeks, according to the Sydney Metropolitan Wildlife Services.

On Tuesday morning, another cockatoo, Old Lady Doris, was taken into the supermarket by the Feathered Friends bird rescue director Ravi Wasan in the hope Mickey would be reassured by her presence.

The plan looked like it could work, with Mickey initially flying down, before being spooked and retreating out of reach.

“He’s really scared because there’s been so many attempts – people trying to catch him,” Wasan said.

“He’s so scared but the other cockatoo, obviously, is so loving that it really reassured him. We got so so close … and then they opened the emergency doors and it spooked him.”

Wasan said Mickey looked “physically fine” and was not hungry because he was eating “really well” in the supermarket.

“He just needs to chill out, relax and come down without thinking that people are going to try and catch him,” he said.

“The exits where the cockatoo would go out are also the exits for patrons, so he just has to realise that the patrons … aren’t terrifying, which is obviously challenging when he sees everyone as a potential threat.”

[Blackmac]

Well, what a surprise, Chris Kaba was a violent, drug dealing cunt, causing misery in his community, and not the saint that the media have allowed his family and friends to paint him out to be. Maybe now you would hope that we don't have to put up with the nauseating choreographed displays from his family and friends trying to turn him into the UK's George Floyd.
Sadly I doubt it as the media will be hoping for community unrest and riots to fill their 24 news cycle. Even today the BBC were leading with "police officer cleared of murdering unarmed motorist" when they should have been leading with "violent gangster lawfully killed by police". They would have known his background all along but chose to ignore it.

Whilst I appreciate there should always be legal oversight into police shootings, this one was always nonsense and police forces are now a gnats cock away from having no armed response and then pricks like Kaba will have a field day.

[inactionman]

Well, what a surprise, Chris Kaba was a violent, drug dealing cunt, causing misery in his community, and not the saint that the media have allowed his family and friends to paint him out to be. Maybe now you would hope that we don't have to put up with the nauseating choreographed displays from his family and friends trying to turn him into the UK's George Floyd.
Sadly I doubt it as the media will be hoping for community unrest and riots to fill their 24 news cycle. Even today the BBC were leading with "police officer cleared of murdering unarmed motorist" when they should have been leading with "violent gangster lawfully killed by police". They would have known his background all along but chose to ignore it.

Whilst I appreciate there should always be legal oversight into police shootings, this one was always nonsense and police forces are now a gnats cock away from having no armed response and then pricks like Kaba will have a field day.

It certainly didn't take the jury long to reach a not guilty verdict, which does give rise to questions on the strength of the prosecution's case. I appreciate it's a difficult situation, where someone has died at the state's hand, but criminal prosecutions can't be brought just to placate aggrieved people.

The General Secretary of the Met Police Federation is certainly far from pleased:

Matt Cane, the general secretary of the Metropolitan Police Federation, which represents rank-and-file officers, said Mr Blake "should never have stood trial" and his fellow officers "remain astonished that a brave colleague could be charged with murder".

"The ramifications of this case remain widespread; police officers should not have their livelihoods, and their liberty, put at risk for performing what unequivocally, in this case, was his lawful and appropriate function," he said.

"It remains a matter of grave concern, that investigations into the most serious complex and dynamic operational scenarios, such as this, are carried out by those who seemingly have little, or no, experience of policing, no understanding of this type of fast-moving and dangerous operational trained tactic, involving split-second decision making in the most difficult and challenging circumstances.

"The flaws which arise in such investigations, are then compounded by poor decision making by the Crown Prosecution Service, and others."

https://news.sky.com/story/chris-kaba-w ... -13234555

[Biffer]

Seen people howling about not being allowed to publish the police officers photo, ignoring the fact that the gang have put £10k up for info that will let them perform a hit on him.

[Uncle fester]

Slippery slope though isn't it.
It's okay to shoot someone dead in a car if you find out later that they were a gang member and not have anything other than an "enquiry"?

Jury were obviously satisfied that he was killed lawfully and crucially they didn't know about his past.

Because we're a democracy, these checks and balances have to be in place, painful as they are for the acquitted officer.

[Uncle fester]

Seen people howling about not being allowed to publish the police officers photo, ignoring the fact that the gang have put £10k up for info that will let them perform a hit on him.

And think how that would go if there was no trial with subsequent accusations of a whitewash.

Justice has to be seen to be done.
It'll mean less people chipping in to this "appeal for info" for starters.

[Blackmac]

Slippery slope though isn't it.
It's okay to shoot someone dead in a car if you find out later that they were a gang member and not have anything other than an "enquiry"?

Jury were obviously satisfied that he was killed lawfully and crucially they didn't know about his past.

Because we're a democracy, these checks and balances have to be in place, painful as they are for the acquitted officer.

I don't think anyone is saying that. Regardless of their background I think it's okay to shoot anyone who has decided to use his car as a deadly weapon if it's likely to prevent loss of life.
People are prosecuted all the time for murder and attempt murder when they deliberately drive their car at someone, however we now have a court case where police officers are attacked in a similar manner and the prosecution case is that they are not allowed to rely on the defence that they felt their lives were at risk.

[Blackmac]

Toughen up you old princess

Plenty of wet fish handshakes out there still

I'm 6'4 and 18 stone with hands like catchers mitts. I actually make a concerted effort to ease my grip when shaking hands, however when I meet one of these tits I actually grip their hand as hard as possible whilst asking them who they are trying to impress.

[Uncle fester]

Toughen up you old princess

Plenty of wet fish handshakes out there still

I'm 6'4 and 18 stone with hands like catchers mitts. I actually make a concerted effort to ease my grip when shaking hands, however when I meet one of these tits I actually grip their hand as hard as possible whilst asking them who they are trying to impress.

That's from over a week ago but let me rephrase
"Lighten up you old queen"

Years ago, I dislocated my thumb tackling the smallest player on the pitch when it got caught in his baggy jersey (remember those). It's an occupational hazard now with handshakes as I've received 2 subsequent dislocations from overly firm handshakes.

[Uncle fester]

Slippery slope though isn't it.
It's okay to shoot someone dead in a car if you find out later that they were a gang member and not have anything other than an "enquiry"?

Jury were obviously satisfied that he was killed lawfully and crucially they didn't know about his past.

Because we're a democracy, these checks and balances have to be in place, painful as they are for the acquitted officer.

I don't think anyone is saying that. Regardless of their background I think it's okay to shoot anyone who has decided to use his car as a deadly weapon if it's likely to prevent loss of life.
People are prosecuted all the time for murder and attempt murder when they deliberately drive their car at someone, however we now have a court case where police officers are attacked in a similar manner and the prosecution case is that they are not allowed to rely on the defence that they felt their lives were at risk.

I don't really see a better way of doing it.
Have an "enquiry" and release the info about the dead guy's past and you'll have accusations of a cover up and smear job.

This way, although unpleasant for the officer in the dock, they get cleared by a jury who quite crucially were unaware of the dead man's past so no possible grounds for an unfair trial.

[Blackmac]

Toughen up you old princess

Plenty of wet fish handshakes out there still

I'm 6'4 and 18 stone with hands like catchers mitts. I actually make a concerted effort to ease my grip when shaking hands, however when I meet one of these tits I actually grip their hand as hard as possible whilst asking them who they are trying to impress.

That's from over a week ago but let me rephrase
"Lighten up you old queen"

Years ago, I dislocated my thumb tackling the smallest player on the pitch when it got caught in his baggy jersey (remember those). It's an occupational hazard now with handshakes as I've received 2 subsequent dislocations from overly firm handshakes.

I didn't realise there was time constraints in replying. I don't spend a lot of time on here so apologies for not knowing the etiquette.

Odd that you have been injured by the very stupidity in highlighting but you are okay with it. I don't think I've ever shaken hands with a farmer of scaffolder who has felt the need to try and impress me with his manly handshake, it's just the work from home gym bunnies wankers with no real strength that seem to be keen on it.

[Blackmac]

Slippery slope though isn't it.
It's okay to shoot someone dead in a car if you find out later that they were a gang member and not have anything other than an "enquiry"?

Jury were obviously satisfied that he was killed lawfully and crucially they didn't know about his past.

Because we're a democracy, these checks and balances have to be in place, painful as they are for the acquitted officer.

I don't think anyone is saying that. Regardless of their background I think it's okay to shoot anyone who has decided to use his car as a deadly weapon if it's likely to prevent loss of life.
People are prosecuted all the time for murder and attempt murder when they deliberately drive their car at someone, however we now have a court case where police officers are attacked in a similar manner and the prosecution case is that they are not allowed to rely on the defence that they felt their lives were at risk.

I don't really see a better way of doing it.
Have an "enquiry" and release the info about the dead guy's past and you'll have accusations of a cover up and smear job.

This way, although unpleasant for the officer in the dock, they get cleared by a jury who quite crucially were unaware of the dead man's past so no possible grounds for an unfair trial.

Police officers should be subject to the same protection under the law as any other citizen. The matter should be investigated and only if there is sufficient evidence of criminality and likelihood of a conviction should there be a prosecution. However suggesting police officers should routinely be thrown under the bus to appease political agendas is just plain wrong.

One of my retired colleagues is one of the most experience tactical firearms advisers in the UK and offered his services to the defence as an expert witness. They told him they didn't need him as they had been overwhelmed by similar offers and the prosecution were unable to produce any expert witness of any standing. Just a disgraceful prosecution that has had a huge impact on a man's life.

[TedMaul]

Is there not some possibility knowing the shot man was a wrong un the trial was allowed to proceed in order that the background would then be made public and cries of a cover up/rioting in the streets avoided? I may be in cloud cuckoo land but was thinking about why it even took place….?

[Guy Smiley]

Ok... looks like it's worth it's own thread already

[Blackmac]

Is there not some possibility knowing the shot man was a wrong un the trial was allowed to proceed in order that the background would then be made public and cries of a cover up/rioting in the streets avoided? I may be in cloud cuckoo land but was thinking about why it even took place….?

No guarantee the background would be made public. Government and Met police had to convince the judge that it was necessary to reduce rising tensions.

[Dinsdale Piranha]

Is there not some possibility knowing the shot man was a wrong un the trial was allowed to proceed in order that the background would then be made public and cries of a cover up/rioting in the streets avoided? I may be in cloud cuckoo land but was thinking about why it even took place….?

No guarantee the background would be made public. Government and Met police had to convince the judge that it was necessary to reduce rising tensions.

Having done jury service a couple of times, you generally don't find out much, or any of the background of the accused until after you have delivered a verdict.

[bogbunny]

Is there not some possibility knowing the shot man was a wrong un the trial was allowed to proceed in order that the background would then be made public and cries of a cover up/rioting in the streets avoided? I may be in cloud cuckoo land but was thinking about why it even took place….?

No guarantee the background would be made public. Government and Met police had to convince the judge that it was necessary to reduce rising tensions.

Having done jury service a couple of times, you generally don't find out much, or any of the background of the accused until after you have delivered a verdict.

Not the accused though, the poor little oppressed minority victim.

[Blackmac]

Is there not some possibility knowing the shot man was a wrong un the trial was allowed to proceed in order that the background would then be made public and cries of a cover up/rioting in the streets avoided? I may be in cloud cuckoo land but was thinking about why it even took place….?

No guarantee the background would be made public. Government and Met police had to convince the judge that it was necessary to reduce rising tensions.

Having done jury service a couple of times, you generally don't find out much, or any of the background of the accused until after you have delivered a verdict.

Yes, that is standard process. Character of an accused can only be revealed if the defence lead evidence to claim that he is off good character. In that case prosecution is allowed to introduce evidence to contest that.

Obviously on this case Kaba was the alleged victim so there would be even more reason not to disclose anything.

[Punter15]

No guarantee the background would be made public. Government and Met police had to convince the judge that it was necessary to reduce rising tensions.

Having done jury service a couple of times, you generally don't find out much, or any of the background of the accused until after you have delivered a verdict.

Yes, that is standard process. Character of an accused can only be revealed if the defence lead evidence to claim that he is off good character. In that case prosecution is allowed to introduce evidence to contest that.

Obviously on this case Kaba was the alleged victim so there would be even more reason not to disclose anything.

The family applied to extend the press gag, presumably so they could milk it as much as possible before everyone found out that he was very naughty boy.