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Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:21 am
by Yr Alban
I’ve just found out that the U20s beat Wales 52-17 in Colwyn Bay a year ago. Somehow missed this completely amongst all of the Covid shite. Now feeling annoyed because I live not far from Colwyn Bay, I’ve been to these matches before, and somehow I didn’t go to this one.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:29 am
by Tichtheid
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:21 am I’ve just found out that the U20s beat Wales 52-17 in Colwyn Bay a year ago. Somehow missed this completely amongst all of the Covid shite. Now feeling annoyed because I live not far from Colwyn Bay, I’ve been to these matches before, and somehow I didn’t go to this one.

I think Nathan Chamberlain scored a hat trick in that game

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:00 pm
by Slick
This feels like a must win game tomorrow. If we lose it’s same old, same old. A win and it can be considered a bit of progress.

I can’t face another Wales type capitulation

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:21 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:29 am
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:21 am I’ve just found out that the U20s beat Wales 52-17 in Colwyn Bay a year ago. Somehow missed this completely amongst all of the Covid shite. Now feeling annoyed because I live not far from Colwyn Bay, I’ve been to these matches before, and somehow I didn’t go to this one.

I think Nathan Chamberlain scored a hat trick in that game
Yeah, I think you are right.

It was on tv (YouTube) as well Yr Alban, so you proper dropped the ball to miss it!

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:23 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Slick wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:00 pm This feels like a must win game tomorrow. If we lose it’s same old, same old. A win and it can be considered a bit of progress.

I can’t face another Wales type capitulation
Yeah, I agree. Unfortunately the Wales game burst my optimism bubble. I expect us to be losing but within a score at half time before errors and lack of discipline allow them to pull away to a 15 point win in the second half.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:34 pm
by Begbie
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:23 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:00 pm This feels like a must win game tomorrow. If we lose it’s same old, same old. A win and it can be considered a bit of progress.

I can’t face another Wales type capitulation
Yeah, I agree. Unfortunately the Wales game burst my optimism bubble. I expect us to be losing but within a score at half time before errors and lack of discipline allow them to pull away to a 15 point win in the second half.
Yeah, pretty much how I see it going too.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:38 pm
by Slick
Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:34 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:23 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:00 pm This feels like a must win game tomorrow. If we lose it’s same old, same old. A win and it can be considered a bit of progress.

I can’t face another Wales type capitulation
Yeah, I agree. Unfortunately the Wales game burst my optimism bubble. I expect us to be losing but within a score at half time before errors and lack of discipline allow them to pull away to a 15 point win in the second half.
Yeah, pretty much how I see it going too.
Yup, +1

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:22 pm
by And 1 guest
Slick wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:38 pm
Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:34 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:23 pm

Yeah, I agree. Unfortunately the Wales game burst my optimism bubble. I expect us to be losing but within a score at half time before errors and lack of discipline allow them to pull away to a 15 point win in the second half.
Yeah, pretty much how I see it going too.
Yup, +1
Me too. While our best Lions prospects are totally outplayed or injured.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:27 pm
by Yr Alban
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:21 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:29 am
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:21 am I’ve just found out that the U20s beat Wales 52-17 in Colwyn Bay a year ago. Somehow missed this completely amongst all of the Covid shite. Now feeling annoyed because I live not far from Colwyn Bay, I’ve been to these matches before, and somehow I didn’t go to this one.

I think Nathan Chamberlain scored a hat trick in that game
Yeah, I think you are right.

It was on tv (YouTube) as well Yr Alban, so you proper dropped the ball to miss it!
Double bugger. I can’t quite believe it. Normally I’d at least see a Twitter update, but I’d definitely have remembered a win of that magnitude in my own back yard!

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:26 pm
by Yr Alban
Turns out the game is still available on YouTube, so that’s pencilled in for a watch now :grin:

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:35 pm
by Tattie
I have zero optimism for tomorrow’s game. As has been said, the Wales game burst the bubble and we have a few players missing. Hope I’m wrong but I think we’ll lose tomorrow, with at least 1 serious injury to a major player, then Beat Italy and lose to France for a pretty shit tournament.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:46 pm
by Yr Alban
Tattie wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:35 pm I have zero optimism for tomorrow’s game. As has been said, the Wales game burst the bubble and we have a few players missing. Hope I’m wrong but I think we’ll lose tomorrow, with at least 1 serious injury to a major player, then Beat Italy and lose to France for a pretty shit tournament.
I’m there too. If we had kept 15 on the pitch v Wales and held on to what, in 6N terms, was a massive lead, or if the final play had been called correctly and we had won, then we’d be 2 for 2 and approaching this game with our tails up. Instead I’m looking at it and seeing nothing but another game where Ireland will strangle the life out of us and win by 10. They’ve done it plenty before and I see no reason to think this will change tomorrow. Hope they prove me wrong of course, but I can’t summon up any optimism at all.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:37 pm
by Biffer
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:27 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:21 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:29 am


I think Nathan Chamberlain scored a hat trick in that game
Yeah, I think you are right.

It was on tv (YouTube) as well Yr Alban, so you proper dropped the ball to miss it!
Double bugger. I can’t quite believe it. Normally I’d at least see a Twitter update, but I’d definitely have remembered a win of that magnitude in my own back yard!
It was played with no crowd, families only. So you couldn't have gone anyway.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:31 pm
by Slick
Thank god we’ve played England

We can beat France

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:32 pm
by TheNatalShark
Slick wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:00 pm This feels like a must win game tomorrow. If we lose it’s same old, same old. A win and it can be considered a bit of progress.

I can’t face another Wales type capitulation
Lose without any BP tomorrow and could well be on for finishing 5th in the table

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:40 pm
by Yr Alban
Biffer wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:37 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:27 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:21 pm

Yeah, I think you are right.

It was on tv (YouTube) as well Yr Alban, so you proper dropped the ball to miss it!
Double bugger. I can’t quite believe it. Normally I’d at least see a Twitter update, but I’d definitely have remembered a win of that magnitude in my own back yard!
It was played with no crowd, families only. So you couldn't have gone anyway.
Ah... that may have been why I didn’t know it was happening.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:46 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Well that was unexpected. Edinburgh played 25 minutes against 14 men without looking like scoring (one pen was all they managed) and then Nathan Chamberlain pops up at 80+3 with a try under the sticks to win the game.

Ironically after barely getting any game time this season, Cockerill let him play on with a clear foot injury for 30+ minutes because he didn’t trust his replacement (Savala).

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:58 pm
by Yr Alban
Just saw the Embra result. Operation ‘unlikely run for 3rd’ very much on for both pro teams!

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:01 am
by Biffer
Wasn't much of a game to watch but they pulled out a result in the end.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:38 am
by KingBlairhorn
Rumours on Twitter this morning that the Pro16 will be on sky next year. While Premier Sports has been frustrating in its shite feed pro Irish coverage at times, £80 for every game was great value. By the time you buy the cheapest sky package and then the sports package I presume it will be c.£50-60 per month. I struggle to see what sky will do that justifies the extra £500 I will have to pay for the same (or probably less) content.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:17 pm
by Biffer
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:38 am Rumours on Twitter this morning that the Pro16 will be on sky next year. While Premier Sports has been frustrating in its shite feed pro Irish coverage at times, £80 for every game was great value. By the time you buy the cheapest sky package and then the sports package I presume it will be c.£50-60 per month. I struggle to see what sky will do that justifies the extra £500 I will have to pay for the same (or probably less) content.
Assuming we're allowed back in, I'll have my season ticket, take a few NowTV passes for big games and go to the pub.

Also mention of a 'significant' free to air element, whatever that ends up being.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:54 pm
by Jock42
I was contemplating sacking sky sports too.

Poor match for several reasons but fair play to Chamberlain, good breaks for both tries.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:00 pm
by KingBlairhorn
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:23 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:00 pm This feels like a must win game tomorrow. If we lose it’s same old, same old. A win and it can be considered a bit of progress.

I can’t face another Wales type capitulation
Yeah, I agree. Unfortunately the Wales game burst my optimism bubble. I expect us to be losing but within a score at half time before errors and lack of discipline allow them to pull away to a 15 point win in the second half.
It’s happening, isn’t it?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:16 pm
by I like neeps
What's Gatland doing after the Lions?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:20 pm
by And 1 guest
This is as bad as we've been for a while

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:21 pm
by Slick
I like neeps wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:16 pm What's Gatland doing after the Lions?
Not coming to Scotland I hope.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:23 pm
by I like neeps
Slick wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:21 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:16 pm What's Gatland doing after the Lions?
Not coming to Scotland I hope.
Wouldn't have to put up with this piss if he did.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:24 pm
by And 1 guest
Slick wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:21 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:16 pm What's Gatland doing after the Lions?
Not coming to Scotland I hope.
We would have a Scotland team with no Scots in it

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:28 pm
by Slick
I like neeps wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:23 pm
Slick wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:21 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:16 pm What's Gatland doing after the Lions?
Not coming to Scotland I hope.
Wouldn't have to put up with this piss if he did.
I’m finding it hard to blame the coach for stupid players

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:30 pm
by I like neeps
Slick wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:28 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:23 pm
Slick wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:21 pm

Not coming to Scotland I hope.
Wouldn't have to put up with this piss if he did.
I’m finding it hard to blame the coach for stupid players
Gatland would see to that. Warrenball doesn't tolerate errors.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:53 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Shite.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:55 pm
by And 1 guest
Can we go back to wingers throwing into the lineout

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:58 pm
by I like neeps
And 1 guest wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:55 pm Can we go back to wingers throwing into the lineout
Cherry has to start Vs Italy. Why a change wasn't made earlier is anyone's guess.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:00 pm
by Biffer
Lost six out of eight line outs. Even a vaguely competent set piece would have won us that game.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:04 pm
by Tattie
Biffer wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:00 pm Lost six out of eight line outs. Even a vaguely competent set piece would have won us that game.
Half of them in their 22, that’s the worst part.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:07 pm
by Biffer
Even with two monumentally shitty performances, we're a couple of kicks away from playing for a slam. That's what makes it even more frustrating.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:08 pm
by I like neeps
That's two error strewn poor structure no mentality defeats in games we maybe should've won. It's a coaching problem, it's that simple.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:08 pm
by Blackmac
Appalling line out, but once again, apart from the comedy try, Russell was missing in action. He is like the reincarnation of Townsend, moments of genius but generally poor to average.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:09 pm
by Blackmac
Price must go as well. Would rather see Steele given an opportunity.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:09 pm
by Yr Alban
The unlikely comeback has made my pit of despair a shallower one, but I just don’t understand how we do this to ourselves. Only Scotland can manage that kind of comeback and still fuck it up at the death. Just like 38-38, which would have literally been a game for the ages if we had held on for the win. When other teams do it to us (like Wales did) we obligingly roll over for them and lose, as the script dictates.