NPR

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:36 pm

Monk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:31 am

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:22 am

Do you think there is a favoring of the Stormers by match officials....I keep thinking how we constantly get screwed by Marius against you lot ( what are the chances that he always officiates against the Stormers ) and now the NH teams are also getting done in by the TMO

it wasn't the TMO making the call boetie

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/watch-offi ... d-try-1za/
It was

I watched the whole sad episode and to me it looked like the TMO showed him all the angles and gave his opinion but the ref eventually made the call.

BTW - it was try imo

Sards put up the log please.

Monk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:16 pm

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:36 pm

Monk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:31 am


it wasn't the TMO making the call boetie

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/watch-offi ... d-try-1za/
It was

I watched the whole sad episode and to me it looked like the TMO showed him all the angles and gave his opinion but the ref eventually made the call.

BTW - it was try imo

The problem was that the Ref clearly couldn't see the replays clearly enough, as he continually had to check what he was seeing, & effectively outsourced the decision to the TMO, which is completely unacceptable. The URC needs to ensure the ref can always see the replays properly, & not just on the stadium screen

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:31 pm

Monk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:16 pm

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:36 pm

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/watch-offi ... d-try-1za/
It was

I watched the whole sad episode and to me it looked like the TMO showed him all the angles and gave his opinion but the ref eventually made the call.

BTW - it was try imo

The problem was that the Ref clearly couldn't see the replays clearly enough, as he continually had to check what he was seeing, & effectively outsourced the decision to the TMO, which is completely unacceptable. The URC needs to ensure the ref can always see the replays properly, & not just on the stadium screen

bottom line - ball did not travel forward and player fell on the ball = try

Well I am glad they are taking a hard line against this type of behavior. They need to look deeply into the officials and stop appointing homer officials. By the same token up north they need to look at their structures too. Let's make it a fair contest.

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:53 pm Well I am glad they are taking a hard line against this type of behavior. They need to look deeply into the officials and stop appointing homer officials. By the same token up north they need to look at their structures too. Let's make it a fair contest.

I think the biggest issue for SA teams up North, is a different interpretation, or different priorities, for the Refs.

I think that the differences will work themselves out, as officials work together, & agree a common approach, so it's less jarring for the players.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:00 pm

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:53 pm Well I am glad they are taking a hard line against this type of behavior. They need to look deeply into the officials and stop appointing homer officials. By the same token up north they need to look at their structures too. Let's make it a fair contest.

I think the biggest issue for SA teams up North, is a different interpretation, or different priorities, for the Refs.

I think that the differences will work themselves out, as officials work together, & agree a common approach, so it's less jarring for the players.

bok_viking wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:48 pm A friend sent me a link from the Wales Rugby Union site where they had a short report of the Bulls/Dragons game and according to that report, the Bulls are loaded with international players and the Dragons dit really well due to that

Apart from few guys very close to their pensions (no current boks...yet) and a couple of Blitzboks I am not so sure how they came to that conclusion, the Dragons most likely have more internationals than the Bulls

You'll get used to Welsh fantasy reporting after a couple of years. They're on a completely different planet, detached from any form of reality.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:00 pm

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:53 pm Well I am glad they are taking a hard line against this type of behavior. They need to look deeply into the officials and stop appointing homer officials. By the same token up north they need to look at their structures too. Let's make it a fair contest.

I think the biggest issue for SA teams up North, is a different interpretation, or different priorities, for the Refs.

I think that the differences will work themselves out, as officials work together, & agree a common approach, so it's less jarring for the players.

i dunno - i saw Frank Murphy emasculate a powerful cheetah scrum within 10 minutes one evening at Galway

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:22 pm Sards put up the log please.

WP kom braai
Iol

South African-born prop WP Nel is one of four Scotland internationals set to join Edinburgh as they gear for Saturday’s United Rugby Championship clash against the Lions in Johannesburg.

Former Cheetahs stalwart Nel, along with lock Grant Gilchrist, hooker Stuart McInally and wing Darcy Graham, have joined the Scottish outfit's touring squad in South Africa.

Aprils Fixtures

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:22 pm

Oom, as a rugby "kenner": what are your thoughts on why players, who never feature at the $harks, seem to blossom once they have left.

Just off the top of my head I think of Evan Roos and Madosh Tambwe.
They were nothing players at the $harks, left them and suddenly Roos is outplaying Duanne Vermeulan and Tambwe is being spoken of as a near future Bok.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:41 pm Aprils Fixtures

Code: Select all

Friday 1st April

    Sharks           18:30 Dragons
    Glasgow Warriors 19:35 Zebre

Saturday 2nd April
    Benetton 12:00 Connacht
    Bulls    13:00 Ulster
    Lions    15:05 Edinburgh
    Stormers 17:15 Ospreys
    Munster  19:00 Leinster
    Scarlets 19:35 Cardiff Rugby

Saturday 9th April
    Stormers      13:00 Bulls
    Sharks        15:05 Lions
    Cardiff Rugby 15:10 Scarlets

Saturday 16th April
    Scarlets 19:35 Dragons

Friday 22nd April
    Stormers  17:30 Glasgow Warriors
    Ulster    19:35 Munster
    Edinburgh 19:45 Zebre

Saturday 23rd April
    Bulls         13:00 Benetton
    Dragons       15:00 Scarlets
    Lions         15:05 Connacht
    Cardiff Rugby 17:15 Ospreys
    Sharks        17:15 Leinster

Friday 29th April
    Bulls   18:00 Glasgow Warriors
    Munster 19:35 Cardiff Rugby

Saturday 30th April
    Lions     13:00 Benetton
    Sharks    15:05 Connacht
    Zebre     15:05 Dragons
    Ospreys   17:15 Scarlets
    Stormers  17:15 Leinster
    Edinburgh 19:35 Ulster

Cheers Boet. Big rugby coming up

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:45 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:22 pm

Oom, as a rugby "kenner": what are your thoughts on why players, who never feature at the $harks, seem to blossom once they have left.

Just off the top of my head I think of Evan Roos and Madosh Tambwe.
They were nothing players at the $harks, left them and suddenly Roos is outplaying Duanne Vermeulan and Tambwe is being spoken of as a near future Bok.

You can add Libbok.

Coaching and gameplan.

They have the best back three plus Am. $hark$ kapater (no balls). Bosch and all those 9s kick all their balls away.

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:03 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:59 am Why a penalty try?

Slapping the ball out of the hand of a person going for a try. Remember when a Stormers player once kicked the ball out of the hand of a player dotting down. Same offense.
But definitely a try....they got this one wrong and Ulster can be very aggrieved

Agreed. Decision reviewed in detail here.

Never liked the general assumption that any ball knocked from hands is an automatic knock on from the carrier.

In real time and without a TMO, it's fair enough but here, there's really no excuse.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:12 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:45 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:22 pm

Oom, as a rugby "kenner": what are your thoughts on why players, who never feature at the $harks, seem to blossom once they have left.

Just off the top of my head I think of Evan Roos and Madosh Tambwe.
They were nothing players at the $harks, left them and suddenly Roos is outplaying Duanne Vermeulan and Tambwe is being spoken of as a near future Bok.

You can add Libbok.

Coaching and gameplan.

They have the best back three plus Am. $hark$ kapater (no balls). Bosch and all those 9s kick all their balls away.

I forgot about Libbok. Manie is playing very well at the Stormers.

One would think that with all their money the $harks could employ a decent coach. Pieter De Villiers, Robbie Fleck, Naka Drotske could all do well in Deben.

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:34 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:12 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:45 pm

Oom, as a rugby "kenner": what are your thoughts on why players, who never feature at the $harks, seem to blossom once they have left.

Just off the top of my head I think of Evan Roos and Madosh Tambwe.
They were nothing players at the $harks, left them and suddenly Roos is outplaying Duanne Vermeulan and Tambwe is being spoken of as a near future Bok.

You can add Libbok.

Coaching and gameplan.

They have the best back three plus Am. $hark$ kapater (no balls). Bosch and all those 9s kick all their balls away.

I forgot about Libbok. Manie is playing very well at the Stormers.

One would think that with all their money the $harks could employ a decent coach. Pieter De Villiers, Robbie Fleck, Naka Drotske could all do well in Deben.

They can poach Paarwater.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:00 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:34 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:12 pm

You can add Libbok.

Coaching and gameplan.

They have the best back three plus Am. $hark$ kapater (no balls). Bosch and all those 9s kick all their balls away.

I forgot about Libbok. Manie is playing very well at the Stormers.

One would think that with all their money the $harks could employ a decent coach. Pieter De Villiers, Robbie Fleck, Naka Drotske could all do well in Deben.

They can poach Paarwater.

Yeah Libbok is a decent player, he was pretty good at the Bulls too, but he was never going to get enough playtime with Pollard being ahead of him, at that time, so I fully understood the reason he left at the time, good to see him starting to get into his stride again. I hope the Bulls can find another flyhalf in the off season, Chris Smith a flyhalf that you can expect to do the basics well, but he does not have that x factor that can make full use of the guys outside him, he also lacks a bit of pace at the times when he does break the line, unless he is close to the line where he can bulldoze through defenders.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:00 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:34 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:12 pm

You can add Libbok.

Coaching and gameplan.

They have the best back three plus Am. $hark$ kapater (no balls). Bosch and all those 9s kick all their balls away.

I forgot about Libbok. Manie is playing very well at the Stormers.

One would think that with all their money the $harks could employ a decent coach. Pieter De Villiers, Robbie Fleck, Naka Drotske could all do well in Deben.

They can poach Paarwater.

Or as part of their social development they could get Andre Markgraff? Rehabilitate him. Get him back into rugby.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:12 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:45 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:22 pm

Oom, as a rugby "kenner": what are your thoughts on why players, who never feature at the $harks, seem to blossom once they have left.

Just off the top of my head I think of Evan Roos and Madosh Tambwe.
They were nothing players at the $harks, left them and suddenly Roos is outplaying Duanne Vermeulan and Tambwe is being spoken of as a near future Bok.

You can add Libbok.

Coaching and gameplan.

They have the best back three plus Am. $hark$ kapater (no balls). Bosch and all those 9s kick all their balls away.

It seems as if Leonlin Zas had to leave the $harks in order to fulfill his potential as well.

https://rugby365.com/tournaments/united ... uit-rugby/

Why are the $harks ruining players?

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:23 pm Never liked the general assumption that any ball knocked from hands is an automatic knock on from the carrier.

In real time and without a TMO, it's fair enough but here, there's really no excuse.

You will get used to WP officials. That is officials that originate from WP. Wait till you get to meet Marius. He only sees the opposition and never blows against the Stormers. Unless it's blatant. Welcome to our world. I am very glad Tappe is sanctioning this dumbass that cost Ulster the game. Just a pity it doesn't change the result

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:37 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:12 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:45 pm

Oom, as a rugby "kenner": what are your thoughts on why players, who never feature at the $harks, seem to blossom once they have left.

Just off the top of my head I think of Evan Roos and Madosh Tambwe.
They were nothing players at the $harks, left them and suddenly Roos is outplaying Duanne Vermeulan and Tambwe is being spoken of as a near future Bok.

You can add Libbok.

Coaching and gameplan.

They have the best back three plus Am. $hark$ kapater (no balls). Bosch and all those 9s kick all their balls away.

It seems as if Leonlin Zas had to leave the $harks in order to fulfill his potential as well.

https://rugby365.com/tournaments/united ... uit-rugby/

Why are the $harks ruining players?

That's the basic problem

there was a time where the [Sharks] coaches didn’t back me.

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:51 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:00 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:34 pm
I forgot about Libbok. Manie is playing very well at the Stormers.

One would think that with all their money the $harks could employ a decent coach. Pieter De Villiers, Robbie Fleck, Naka Drotske could all do well in Deben.

They can poach Paarwater.

Or as part of their social development they could get Andre Markgraff? Rehabilitate him. Get him back into rugby.

Straeuli was there to initiate Kamp Staaldraad. That's what they need.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:17 am

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:37 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:12 pm

You can add Libbok.

Coaching and gameplan.

They have the best back three plus Am. $hark$ kapater (no balls). Bosch and all those 9s kick all their balls away.

It seems as if Leonlin Zas had to leave the $harks in order to fulfill his potential as well.

https://rugby365.com/tournaments/united ... uit-rugby/

Why are the $harks ruining players?

That's the basic problem

there was a time where the [Sharks] coaches didn’t back me.

I wonder what other coaching structures could do with Bosch, Nohamba, Hendrikse etc if they took them away from the toxic environment in Deben?

Hendrikse/Nohamba played well under Rassie.

Loving all the Sharks hate....makes me feel special..



Stormers go top of the Saffers for the 2nd week ( with a little help from a friend Quinton Immelman ) after 3 weeks of Sharks dominance and there supporters are crowing like cocks.....

But its cool....their officials are now being exposed for the cheats that they are....

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:00 am Loving all the Sharks hate....makes me feel special..



Stormers go top of the Saffers for the 2nd week ( with a little help from a friend Quinton Immelman ) after 3 weeks of Sharks dominance and there supporters are crowing like cocks.....

But its cool....their officials are now being exposed for the cheats that they are....

Their, not there.

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:06 am

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:00 am Loving all the Sharks hate....makes me feel special..



Stormers go top of the Saffers for the 2nd week ( with a little help from a friend Quinton Immelman ) after 3 weeks of Sharks dominance and there supporters are crowing like cocks.....

But its cool....their officials are now being exposed for the cheats that they are....

Their, not there.

I see Fassi is back on the field.
And guess what....73 percent chance of rain in Durban for the game this weekend.........


That sucks.

Die Ellende on his way to the $hark$.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:35 pm Die Ellende on his way to the $hark$.

Destination unknown. I would rather have Andre tbh.
But looks like the Sharks are turning into the Springboks.
Favoring Rassies players

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:47 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:35 pm Die Ellende on his way to the $hark$.

Destination unknown. I would rather have Andre tbh.
But looks like the Sharks are turning into the Springboks.
Favoring Rassies players

You can have De Ellende, We have 5 Bar. Much better 12.

Bulls giving away their 25,000 Loftus tickets at R25 a pop.

If that doesn’t sell out the bull ring, nothing fucking will.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:12 pm

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:47 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:35 pm Die Ellende on his way to the $hark$.

Destination unknown. I would rather have Andre tbh.
But looks like the Sharks are turning into the Springboks.
Favoring Rassies players

You can have De Ellende, We have 5 Bar. Much better 12.

Oom, time to give up drinking. Or are you on the pappagaaitwak?

Blake wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:00 pm Bulls giving away their 25,000 Loftus tickets at R25 a pop.

If that doesn’t sell out the bull ring, nothing fucking will.

Great idea, I hope it works.

Just correct me if I'm wrong, is Sards now claiming the officials are corrupt?

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:41 am Just correct me if I'm wrong, is Sards now claiming the officials are corrupt?

It is quite sad really.

Looking at Friday nights game between the $harks and the Dragons.
The Dragons are yet to win a game this season, so it should be an easy victory for the Springbok laden $harks along with their Argentinian and Australian International Super stars.


But, there is a 60% chance of rain with 87% humidity.....................................................................does this even out the odds? Does the warm rain and hot, humid, muggy conditions favor the Welsh? Are these the conditions that the Dragons are used to training and playing in Newport and Gwent?