Stop voting for fucking Tories

[Torquemada 1420]

I'd be surprised if the windows in that room did open, and that might even still be an exceptionally well ventilated room. Does seem an obvious missed chance to set a better example mind

All the windows at 10 Downing Street were reinforced after the IRA mortar attack in the early 90s, so I doubt they can be opened. The Cabinet Room is probably air conditioned and has other sources of ventilation than throwing the windows open.

So there is hope yet the ***ts will all suffocate on their own poisonous airings?

[ASMO]

I'd be surprised if the windows in that room did open, and that might even still be an exceptionally well ventilated room. Does seem an obvious missed chance to set a better example mind

All the windows at 10 Downing Street were reinforced after the IRA mortar attack in the early 90s, so I doubt they can be opened. The Cabinet Room is probably air conditioned and has other sources of ventilation than throwing the windows open.

So there is hope yet the ***ts will all suffocate on their own poisonous airings?

Unlikely as those cunts love the smell of their own farts

[PCPhil]

I bet Boris’s farts are evil.

[Insane_Homer]

I bet Boris’s farts are evil.

Fat Bastard territory.

[tabascoboy]

So, which one is right?

]Boris Johnson dismisses fears over tough winter

Boris Johnson has said people should not worry about putting food on the table this winter, amid surging energy prices and a cut to universal credit.

The prime minister told BBC News: "I don't believe people will be short of food - and wages are actually rising."

It comes after Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng warned some households face a "very difficult winter".

My money would not go on the serial liar atm

[SaintK]

So, which one is right?

]Boris Johnson dismisses fears over tough winter

Boris Johnson has said people should not worry about putting food on the table this winter, amid surging energy prices and a cut to universal credit.

The prime minister told BBC News: "I don't believe people will be short of food - and wages are actually rising."

It comes after Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng warned some households face a "very difficult winter".

My money would not go on the serial liar atm

Nah, it'll be fine..............for some!

Boris Johnson is warned today that more than 800,000 people risk being plunged into poverty as a result of an imminent cut to universal credit, amid a plot by senior Tories to force the government into a last-minute U-turn.

With Conservatives from across the party pressing for a compromise deal this weekend as ministers face a potential Commons revolt, the Observer has seen new analysis that suggests the impact of the £20-a-week cut could be severe with energy costs and food prices rising.

It finds that the extra support protected some 840,000 people from poverty in the second quarter of this year. The research from the Legatum Institute thinktank includes 290,000 children – a figure that is causing particular concerns among Tories, who fear a significant increase in child poverty after the cut. The figure includes extra universal credit help given to the self-employed.

[fishfoodie]

Starmer needs to start drawing blood at PMQs with this shitshow.

The ammo keeps on coming, & the polls are going in the right direction; but he needs to start getting Tory backbenchers scared of going into an Election with these clowns leading them.

[salanya]

Heard a Tory MP defending the Universal Credit cut today, because 'Furlough has been such a great success and the job market is booming at the moment'.

Now I know there are plenty of workshy arseholes in this country, but that can't be used as an excuse to drop hundreds of thousands of people and families into a further state of poverty. You can't just ignore the ever increasing number of people that rely on food banks, and then congratulate yourself for it.

That at a time when bills are going up, and they'll only increase further over winter. Boris Johnson may be dismissing what's coming, but that ridiculous man's idea of poverty is probably akin to not being able to order the Dom Perignon to go with his lobster thermidore.

I thought the Tories wantes to stimulate the economy, but how are they planning that when bills are rising, there are loads of Brexit-related issues, and the tax increase will mean people have less to spend anyway?
I genuinely don't understand how are they are getting away with all of their nonsense rhetoric. But hey, Rishi is a millionaire as is his wife, so he's not worried.

[I like neeps]

Heard a Tory MP defending the Universal Credit cut today, because 'Furlough has been such a great success and the job market is booming at the moment'.

Now I know there are plenty of workshy arseholes in this country, but that can't be used as an excuse to drop hundreds of thousands of people and families into a further state of poverty. You can't just ignore the ever increasing number of people that rely on food banks, and then congratulate yourself for it.

That at a time when bills are going up, and they'll only increase further over winter. Boris Johnson may be dismissing what's coming, but that ridiculous man's idea of poverty is probably akin to not being able to order the Dom Perignon to go with his lobster thermidore.

I thought the Tories wantes to stimulate the economy, but how are they planning that when bills are rising, there are loads of Brexit-related issues, and the tax increase will mean people have less to spend anyway?
I genuinely don't understand how are they are getting away with all of their nonsense rhetoric. But hey, Rishi is a millionaire as is his wife, so he's not worried.

Sunak's wife is a billionaire - minor correction.

The Tories don't want to stimulate the economy. Their economic policies of the past 12 years in government prove that. Austerity - well known complete failure, Brexit - economically punishing on the largest scale, UC - put a load more people in food/energy poverty. They want to stimulate shareholder value rather than the actual economy. Kind of crazy you can implement all these mad economic policies and be seen as good with the nation's money.

Also for the past 15 years politicians and the media have been creating a culture where people on benefits are the scourge of society and totally undeserving so they'll get away with it.

Also Keir Starmer has the charisma of a wet wipe he won't be pinning anything on the Tories.

[dpedin]

Heard a Tory MP defending the Universal Credit cut today, because 'Furlough has been such a great success and the job market is booming at the moment'.

Now I know there are plenty of workshy arseholes in this country, but that can't be used as an excuse to drop hundreds of thousands of people and families into a further state of poverty. You can't just ignore the ever increasing number of people that rely on food banks, and then congratulate yourself for it.

That at a time when bills are going up, and they'll only increase further over winter. Boris Johnson may be dismissing what's coming, but that ridiculous man's idea of poverty is probably akin to not being able to order the Dom Perignon to go with his lobster thermidore.

I thought the Tories wantes to stimulate the economy, but how are they planning that when bills are rising, there are loads of Brexit-related issues, and the tax increase will mean people have less to spend anyway?
I genuinely don't understand how are they are getting away with all of their nonsense rhetoric. But hey, Rishi is a millionaire as is his wife, so he's not worried.

Sunak's wife is a billionaire - minor correction.

The Tories don't want to stimulate the economy. Their economic policies of the past 12 years in government prove that. Austerity - well known complete failure, Brexit - economically punishing on the largest scale, UC - put a load more people in food/energy poverty. They want to stimulate shareholder value rather than the actual economy. Kind of crazy you can implement all these mad economic policies and be seen as good with the nation's money.

Also for the past 15 years politicians and the media have been creating a culture where people on benefits are the scourge of society and totally undeserving so they'll get away with it.

Also Keir Starmer has the charisma of a wet wipe he won't be pinning anything on the Tories.

Can't disagree with any of this. Isn't it true that the historically economy usually does more poorly with Conservatives in power and Labour have a better track record in managing the economy ... same as with Republicans and Democrats in US? The majority of UK debt has been generated when the tories have been in power and then most of the debt incurred when Labour were in power was because of the worldwide housing crisis. The current Tory Gov aim isn't to increase wealth of the nation but merely to increase their own and their mates personal wealth plus giving some of them a bit of a hobby in trying to run a country as they were promised in Eton/Oxford. Sustaining the status quo ie them in power and earning vast amounts of money is their primary objective. It is a game for them whereas many will go without heat or food or both this winter.

[tabascoboy]

Please tell me BoJo really didn't address other world leaders with "Kermit the frog said it’s not easy being green, he was wrong"...

Just how did we get to the point where we have this embarrassing, lying tosser representing us on the world stage?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Please tell me BoJo really didn't address other world leaders with "Kermit the frog said it’s not easy being green, he was wrong"...

And the thing is he's not even green, nor does he care about being green. There is suddenly, after months if not years of doing bugger all, a real scramble on in Whitehall to get other nations to commit to stating what % of emissions they're will to cut. And very specifically what's being chased are a series of announcements saying something will happen, there's almost nothing about actually doing something, Boris just wants to be able to say something is being done and is't he great.

Yes Boris is notionally green, but he's notionally in favour of the single market, the UK remaining in it and Turkey joining it. It all pales into insignificance next to his admiration for Boris, it's hard to see he could love himself more if he wasn't a lazy, venal and incompetent wanker

[Insane_Homer]

[Hal Jordan]

No wonder the Government want to chuck judicial review in the bin.

[SaintK]

Labour scum.......always has been. Horrible man.

Keith Vaz, the former Labour minister, has been reprimanded and faces a ban from the Parliamentary estate after being found to have engaged in “sustained and unpleasant bullying” towards a parliamentary member of staff, an official report has concluded.
The ex-MP for Leicester East was reprimanded over his conduct towards Jenny McCullough, a clerk on the home affairs committee, of which he was chair for nine years.
In a report released on Thursday the independent expert panel (IEP) recommended he never be given a pass for the parliamentary estate, usually given to ex-parliamentarians, because of his behaviour.
The panel chair, Sir Stephen Irwin, said Vaz was guilty of “sustained and unpleasant bullying, with a real and enduring psychological impact” that ended McCullough’s career.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ullying

[I like neeps]

Searingly hot take by the Spectator woooooow.

[Hal Jordan]

Lot of support in the comments there...

Jesus wept.

[fishfoodie]

Lot of support in the comments there...

Jesus wept.

Who will stand up for the wealthy oppressed 1% that owns 99% & holds all the levers of power ?

[Hal Jordan]

Lot of support in the comments there...

Jesus wept.

Who will stand up for the wealthy oppressed 1% that owns 99% & holds all the levers of power ?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Rosie Duffield was wrong to say only women have a cervix, because that's offensive. Say what you will for that it's a position to take, and yet it's one they're not adhering to when it comes to comments about people (including children) being scum. It's like they don't want to win elections.

[robmatic]

Rosie Duffield was wrong to say only women have a cervix, because that's offensive. Say what you will for that it's a position to take, and yet it's one they're not adhering to when it comes to comments about people (including children) being scum. It's like they don't want to win elections.

This Tory cabinet is the worst that I can remember but Labour are just terrible at this wedge issue stuff. The trans stuff is mental.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Rosie Duffield was wrong to say only women have a cervix, because that's offensive. Say what you will for that it's a position to take, and yet it's one they're not adhering to when it comes to comments about people (including children) being scum. It's like they don't want to win elections.

This Tory cabinet is the worst that I can remember but Labour are just terrible at this wedge issue stuff. The trans stuff is mental.

It's certainly an electoral challenge they're taking on, and one that could ensure a Tory government because it's going to rile a huge number of women to their core that being mothers isn't a thing, and there's a large group of professional women Labour have rarely had access to before that would absent this issue be ready to vote Labour, Green Lib-Dem when historically they'd have been family first Conservative voters. They vote in big numbers and could swing a lot of seats. But even putting that to one side because it's an easy rabbit hole to disappear down Labour aren't agreeing with themselves, it simply doesn't hold to say you cannot be offensive if you like/identify with a group but you can be offensive if you dislike a group, that's just gibberish.

[sturginho]

Rosie Duffield was wrong to say only women have a cervix, because that's offensive. Say what you will for that it's a position to take, and yet it's one they're not adhering to when it comes to comments about people (including children) being scum. It's like they don't want to win elections.

This Tory cabinet is the worst that I can remember but Labour are just terrible at this wedge issue stuff. The trans stuff is mental.

It's certainly an electoral challenge they're taking on, and one that could ensure a Tory government because it's going to rile a huge number of women to their core that being mothers isn't a thing, and there's a large group of professional women Labour have rarely had access to before that would absent this issue be ready to vote Labour, Green Lib-Dem when historically they'd have been family first Conservative voters. They vote in big numbers and could swing a lot of seats. But even putting that to one side because it's an easy rabbit hole to disappear down Labour aren't agreeing with themselves, it simply doesn't hold to say you cannot be offensive if you like/identify with a group but you can be offensive if you dislike a group, that's just gibberish.

que?

[Paddington Bear]

Realistically most Labour politicians don't believe or understand a word of the cervix debate, but know that one side will see you labelled a bigot and the other won't.

[tc27]

This Tory cabinet is the worst that I can remember but Labour are just terrible at this wedge issue stuff. The trans stuff is mental.

Yeah its really just an unbelievable unforced error - that said trans rights (alongside Israel) has become a massive cultural wedge issue inside the bubble Labour politicians inhabit (but not its voters) so I cant see what answer KS could give that wouldn't cause a massive shitfight. Our politics has become a real battle of identities since 2014 (culteral and nationalist) and its the worse thing that's happened to the country in my lifetime as it drastically reduces the likelihood of being competently governed.

The only glimmer of light is the leadership rule changes KS managed to get passed will hopefully prevent another loon like Corbyn getting hold of the Labour party anytime soon.

[tabascoboy]

Another gem of wisdom:


Because driving an HGV is no different to driving a Ford Transit...

[robmatic]

Another gem of wisdom:


Because driving an HGV is no different to driving a Ford Transit...

Redwood is a particularly egregious example of our clueless MPs, but I imagine a fair proportion of his colleagues won't realise that there is a distinction.

[Plim]

Realistically most Labour politicians don't believe or understand a word of the cervix debate, but know that one side will see you labelled a bigot and the other won't.

True. And very harmful to electoral prospects.

Some identity/rights arguments are purely social and attitudinal - like gay rights arguments of the last thirty-ish years. An argument that the Tories were on the wrong side of for a long time and for which they got a deserved reputation for bigotry. I suspect the same has happened to some extent with BLM, knee-taking and so on, though that one looks to have been retreated on mostly by Johnson and others.

But some identity issues are just insulting to the great majority of voters. Not only women being sidelined and belittled; nearly everyone is being insulted - because the electorate is being shouted at and abused for thinking that men and women are physiologically different.

That’s just inviting people to think that pro-trans policies, self-ID and so on are denying people the right to recognise reality. Which is a very unpleasant message.

[Lobby]

Realistically most Labour politicians don't believe or understand a word of the cervix debate, but know that one side will see you labelled a bigot and the other won't.

True. And very harmful to electoral prospects.

Some identity/rights arguments are purely social and attitudinal - like gay rights arguments of the last thirty-ish years. An argument that the Tories were on the wrong side of for a long time and for which they got a deserved reputation for bigotry. I suspect the same has happened to some extent with BLM, knee-taking and so on, though that one looks to have been retreated on mostly by Johnson and others.

But some identity issues are just insulting to the great majority of voters. Not only women being sidelined and belittled; nearly everyone is being insulted - because the electorate is being shouted at and abused for thinking that men and women are physiologically different.

That’s just inviting people to think that pro-trans policies, self-ID and so on are denying people the right to recognise reality. Which is a very unpleasant message.

Interesting article here by a Canadian author and gay rights activists about the way LGBT+ activism has been hijacked by the Trans lobby:

https://quillette.com/2021/06/22/the-ge ... rt-series/

As he says:

Gender supremacists (as I call them) seek to entirely replace sex with gender as a legal category, an unpopular project that is squandering decades of hard-won LGBT+ social capital; contradicts the arguments that led to our most important policy victories; alienates our allies (especially in the women’s movement); and redefines gays and lesbians in a way that effectively erases us out of existence.

[SaintK]

More Labour scumminess. What is it about the Leicester East constituency that ends up with MP's like her and Vaz

An MP has been accused of threatening to use acid against a woman she believed to be in a relationship with her partner, a court has heard.
Claudia Webbe, 56, allegedly became “obsessed” with Michelle Merritt due to her friendship with the Leicester East MP’s partner, Lester Thomas.
Webbe also threatened to reveal naked photographs and videos she supposedly had of Merritt to her family, Westminster magistrates court heard on Monday.
Webbe, who was elected as a Labour MP but has since had the whip withdrawn, denies the charge.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ ... dia-webbw

[I like neeps]

Good post on the FT about the incoming student loan repayment increase:

I have to say, the last 18-20 months have been truly ridiculous for a young person and this really is the icing on the cake. I left university with around £48,000 worth of debt. I looked at my student loan summary and despite having worked (and I am fortunate enough to earn a good salary) for the last 5-6 years my debt stands at £36,000. Interest is at over 6% and compounds monthly. The Bank of England base rate is basically zero. It’s a total and utter farce. Nearing on outright fraud. Interest began when I was studying. Even more laughably, students who went to university paid for by mommy and daddy earn an extra £700 per month more than me because they have no student loan. Thanks Boris. Oh, and that £700 is only reducing my debt pile by about £420 a month due to the interest rate being added on top. The whole thing is a farce. A Ponzi scheme is plain view.

The UK has nothing to offer a young person anymore and I implore anyone with the chance of leaving to do so. The marginal tax rate on your earnings is astounding. What we get in return is shocking. How does one live in London on a “normal salary.” Your effective tax rate is huge, then what you do get goes on rent for a box room - sharing with others. Then look at inflation for the cost of living. Then look at the cost of housing. The UK is a total and utter Ponzi scheme. I assume the only reason there are not protests in the street each weekend is that not enough people have caught on yet. Only going to get worse too. How are kids going to be able to buy a house - ever. How will we ever pay off the debt. Ever. We won’t. It’s tied to the RPI too so just want till inflation is truly reflected in the figures. Why doesn’t Rishi use the magic money tree just to pay it off like test and trace????? 37bn would help here. Total and utter shambles. Tragic.

Rant over

[robmatic]

Good post on the FT about the incoming student loan repayment increase:

I have to say, the last 18-20 months have been truly ridiculous for a young person and this really is the icing on the cake. I left university with around £48,000 worth of debt. I looked at my student loan summary and despite having worked (and I am fortunate enough to earn a good salary) for the last 5-6 years my debt stands at £36,000. Interest is at over 6% and compounds monthly. The Bank of England base rate is basically zero. It’s a total and utter farce. Nearing on outright fraud. Interest began when I was studying. Even more laughably, students who went to university paid for by mommy and daddy earn an extra £700 per month more than me because they have no student loan. Thanks Boris. Oh, and that £700 is only reducing my debt pile by about £420 a month due to the interest rate being added on top. The whole thing is a farce. A Ponzi scheme is plain view.

The UK has nothing to offer a young person anymore and I implore anyone with the chance of leaving to do so. The marginal tax rate on your earnings is astounding. What we get in return is shocking. How does one live in London on a “normal salary.” Your effective tax rate is huge, then what you do get goes on rent for a box room - sharing with others. Then look at inflation for the cost of living. Then look at the cost of housing. The UK is a total and utter Ponzi scheme. I assume the only reason there are not protests in the street each weekend is that not enough people have caught on yet. Only going to get worse too. How are kids going to be able to buy a house - ever. How will we ever pay off the debt. Ever. We won’t. It’s tied to the RPI too so just want till inflation is truly reflected in the figures. Why doesn’t Rishi use the magic money tree just to pay it off like test and trace????? 37bn would help here. Total and utter shambles. Tragic.

Rant over

There's a lot wrong with the student loan system, which is effectively an excessively complicated graduate tax because you don't actually clear the debt. I have one of the late 90s student loans, so the interest rate is minimal unlike the current usurious system, but you still basically have the marginal tax rate of a higher rate taxpayer while on a rubbish salary. Obviously I've been ignoring it since I emigrated, but it's still quite a disincentive.

The current system gives a massive comparative advantage to those from well-off backgrounds. The bank of mum and dad can just use ready cash or remortgage cheaply and the kids will avoid the crippling repayments and actually enjoy life/get on the property ladder etc.

[Paddington Bear]

Good post on the FT about the incoming student loan repayment increase:

I have to say, the last 18-20 months have been truly ridiculous for a young person and this really is the icing on the cake. I left university with around £48,000 worth of debt. I looked at my student loan summary and despite having worked (and I am fortunate enough to earn a good salary) for the last 5-6 years my debt stands at £36,000. Interest is at over 6% and compounds monthly. The Bank of England base rate is basically zero. It’s a total and utter farce. Nearing on outright fraud. Interest began when I was studying. Even more laughably, students who went to university paid for by mommy and daddy earn an extra £700 per month more than me because they have no student loan. Thanks Boris. Oh, and that £700 is only reducing my debt pile by about £420 a month due to the interest rate being added on top. The whole thing is a farce. A Ponzi scheme is plain view.

The UK has nothing to offer a young person anymore and I implore anyone with the chance of leaving to do so. The marginal tax rate on your earnings is astounding. What we get in return is shocking. How does one live in London on a “normal salary.” Your effective tax rate is huge, then what you do get goes on rent for a box room - sharing with others. Then look at inflation for the cost of living. Then look at the cost of housing. The UK is a total and utter Ponzi scheme. I assume the only reason there are not protests in the street each weekend is that not enough people have caught on yet. Only going to get worse too. How are kids going to be able to buy a house - ever. How will we ever pay off the debt. Ever. We won’t. It’s tied to the RPI too so just want till inflation is truly reflected in the figures. Why doesn’t Rishi use the magic money tree just to pay it off like test and trace????? 37bn would help here. Total and utter shambles. Tragic.

Rant over

Basically sums up my feelings. My tax rate on a pretty standard salary is about to be eye watering, as my cost of living rises significantly as well. The whole political system is anti-growth and anti-development with all the cash being poured into ensuring living standards remain high for people who are 60+. It's pretty depressing to watch.

[Hal Jordan]

That's because over 60s vote, and lots of them vote Conservative. Keep them sweet, make sure their ageing kids get their inheritances to buy their goodwill as well.

[Calculon]

That person might be over-egging it a bit but I do feel sorry for young people in the UK. They're being fucked over. Certainly more sympathy for them than a GP working 3 days a week on a good salary.

[I like neeps]

That person might be over-egging it a bit but I do feel sorry for young people in the UK. They're being fucked over. Certainly more sympathy for them than a GP working 3 days a week on a good salary.

What bits do you think they are over egging out of interest?

[Calculon]

That person might be over-egging it a bit but I do feel sorry for young people in the UK. They're being fucked over. Certainly more sympathy for them than a GP working 3 days a week on a good salary.

What bits do you think they are over egging out of interest?

"nothing to offer young person," "total and utter ponzi scheme" and I guess if he graduated around 2015 his debt is a fair bit higher than the average for England uni graduate. Don't get me wrong, I think the young are being royally fucked by the older generation and if I was a young person in the UK (without wealthy parents) I would definitely be looking to leave.

[tabascoboy]

Furious government reacts with threat to hauliers: ‘We will deal with them’
...So it is unclear what the government can do in the short term, the next few days and weeks, to get out of the crisis. They must be aware that, unless a solution is found in days, the country may be in danger of grinding to a halt.

Hence the suspicions of haulage industry insiders that the buck may be passed to them. If the government can somehow survive until Christmas, then they will accuse the industry of failing to invest over many years.

There may be some truth in that, and there are already signs of how the government’s ire is being trained on haulage businesses. In a carefully placed story in yesterday’s Mail on Sunday, the Road Haulage Association (RHA) were pilloried for sparking “the nationwide panic-buying frenzy”.

In particular, one of their executives, Rod McKenzie, comes in for criticism. He is a man who would naturally draw the suspicions of the government, since once long ago he worked with the BBC. McKenzie is accused of ‘selectively leaking’ remarks made in a private meeting with oil company leaders.

In a chilling hint of the panic and rage inside government and a warning of what may be to come, a senior government source is quoted as saying:

“McKenzie is just a moaning Remainer and he and the RHA are entirely responsible for this panic and chaos. We will deal with them when this is over.”

https://eastangliabylines.co.uk/furious ... with-them/

And, thanks for the ambition but how about first showing that you have an actual plan to get us out of the rapidly evolving earthbound 2021 Great British Autumn Shitshow first?

Britain will launch rockets next year, vows Boris Johnson

Spaceports from Cornwall to Shetland will launch rockets into orbit next year as Boris Johnson promises to create “galactic Britain”.

The prime minister insisted that Britain cannot remain “earthbound” and must seize leadership in the multi-billion-pound space industry.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brit ... -r38tckx3l

[westport]

Searingly hot take by the Spectator woooooow.

Angela Raynor who wants to be PM and left school with more kids than GCSE's

[SaintK]

Angela Raynor who wants to be PM and left school with more kids than GCSE's

You forgot "care home worker"
Done well for herself to get as far as she has dragging herself up by the bootstraps
Unlike the entitled cunt Sam Leith and his Old Etonian and family connections getting him jobs at The Mail,Telegraph and Spectator