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Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:24 pm
by Big D
The discipline is so bad.

We could have the bastard son of Wilkinson and Carter at 10 and it wouldn't have changed this start.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:28 pm
by Yr Alban
GogLais wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:50 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:29 pm Incidentally, I am working today, and the result of the Welsh game is likely to influence how the day goes. Not actually certain whether a win or a loss will be worse. Bound to be a bunch of drunk people either way.
Aren’t you in N Wales where we’re not bothered?
You say that, but the evidence doesn’t bear it out. I’ve been here for 12 years, and Wales playing rugby is the only thing that reliably clears our ED. While the game is on anyway!

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:28 pm
by Jockaline
Good response, we're not going to fail 5 metres out in this game.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:30 pm
by Slick
I like neeps wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:23 pm Oh look, not far from a grand slam Scotland losing to Italy.
Oh come along, grumpy

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:34 pm
by Tattie
Think we’re going to need 40+ to win this.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:41 pm
by Big D
As bad as their defence is, our attacking has been good to watch.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:48 pm
by Slick
Big D wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:41 pm As bad as their defence is, our attacking has been good to watch.
We really need a 10 to control it though, all a bit headless.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:49 pm
by Big D
Lovely try there.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:49 pm
by Blackmac
Big D wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:41 pm As bad as their defence is, our attacking has been good to watch.
It would be better if they could just sharpen up the passing which is pretty bloody laboured at times.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:50 pm
by Big D
Slick wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:48 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:41 pm As bad as their defence is, our attacking has been good to watch.
We really need a 10 to control it though, all a bit headless.
I don't think it has been that headless.it has been pretty open, but considering Italy have missed 4million tackles it will look a bit more headless than it has been because there will be bodies everywhere.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:51 pm
by Big D
Blackmac wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:49 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:41 pm As bad as their defence is, our attacking has been good to watch.
It would be better if they could just sharpen up the passing which is pretty bloody laboured at times.
Yeah that Johnson pass to Graham being a prime example.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:51 pm
by Deveron Boy
Blackmac wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:49 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:41 pm As bad as their defence is, our attacking has been good to watch.
It would be better if they could just sharpen up the passing which is pretty bloody laboured at times.
Hugh Jones’s passing :thumbdown:

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:54 pm
by Slick
Deveron Boy wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:51 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:49 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:41 pm As bad as their defence is, our attacking has been good to watch.
It would be better if they could just sharpen up the passing which is pretty bloody laboured at times.
Hugh Jones’s passing :thumbdown:
Yes, never really noticed that before. Still, he is playing beautifully apart from that

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:56 pm
by Slick
Big D wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:50 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:48 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:41 pm As bad as their defence is, our attacking has been good to watch.
We really need a 10 to control it though, all a bit headless.
I don't think it has been that headless.it has been pretty open, but considering Italy have missed 4million tackles it will look a bit more headless than it has been because there will be bodies everywhere.
Maybe I don’t mean headless, perhaps less accurate than it could be? I think with Finn or Hastings it would be getting mixed up a bit more. Not a criticism of Hogg for avoidance of doubt

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:56 pm
by Blackmac
Watson is immense. It will be a disgrace if he is not a Lion. One of the most consistently good back rowers of the tournament.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:57 pm
by Slick
How are we only 14 ahead!

Always a worry

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:04 pm
by Big D
Slick wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:56 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:50 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:48 pm

We really need a 10 to control it though, all a bit headless.
I don't think it has been that headless.it has been pretty open, but considering Italy have missed 4million tackles it will look a bit more headless than it has been because there will be bodies everywhere.
Maybe I don’t mean headless, perhaps less accurate than it could be? I think with Finn or Hastings it would be getting mixed up a bit more. Not a criticism of Hogg for avoidance of doubt
There is definitely a lack of accuracy. The two centres have thrown a few wobbly ones.

Get to half time and take a breath I think. It was always going to be a little breathless.

I don't understand the application of advantage anymore. The ref is pulling offences back 30-40m sometimes.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:08 pm
by Slick
Think I’d be looking at getting Jaco on for the 2nd half. Not because anyone has played badly, just to bring a bit more structure and a kicker

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:09 pm
by Big D
Good 1st start by Cherry.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:12 pm
by Slick
Big D wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:09 pm Good 1st start by Cherry.
Yes, excellent. Dream come true for the guy

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:25 pm
by Big D
Slick wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:12 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:09 pm Good 1st start by Cherry.
Yes, excellent. Dream come true for the guy
Good solid pro. Taking full advantage to get some late career rewards.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:25 pm
by Jockaline
And then goes and scores a try. Go Cherry.

Ah he's off that's the hat-rick opportunity gone.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:33 pm
by Begbie
Some nice wee snipes from Steele. Something I don't think Price ever does.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:35 pm
by Slick
Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:33 pm Some nice wee snipes from Steele. Something I don't think Price ever does.
He sometimes takes a step or two before passing but has played well. An upgrade in my opinion

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:40 pm
by Big D
Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:33 pm Some nice wee snipes from Steele. Something I don't think Price ever does.
Can be pleased with that run out

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:44 pm
by Big D
That's a red. The fact Hogg sticks his elbow out shouldn't be mitigation. The ball is long gone.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:47 pm
by Begbie
Yep. Red all day.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:47 pm
by Slick
Big D wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:44 pm That's a red. The fact Hogg sticks his elbow out shouldn't be mitigation. The ball is long gone.
Agree

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:50 pm
by Begbie
The clearout is a red too. Love this bullshit inconsistency.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:51 pm
by Blackmac
Big D wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:44 pm That's a red. The fact Hogg sticks his elbow out shouldn't be mitigation. The ball is long gone.
Yep totally agree. Very deliberately drove him into the ground,

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:53 pm
by Blackmac
Strength from Johnson.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:53 pm
by Slick
Johnson has looked tidy as well today.

Could we have Finn, Johnson, Jones next week?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:09 pm
by Begbie
Tasty scoreline considering we started our FB at fly half, had our second choice second row, third and fourth choice hookers and centres that haven't started for a while.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:12 pm
by Big D
Gauzerre is not a good ref. So inconsistent.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:13 pm
by Big D
Nice scoreline. Put a bad team to the sword.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:16 pm
by Yr Alban
Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:09 pm Tasty scoreline considering we started our FB at fly half, had our second choice second row, third and fourth choice hookers and centres that haven't started for a while.
TBH, only a win of this size was going to be acceptable after the way the last two games have gone, and they’ve done the business after a shaky start. So well done. I’m still at work and won’t get to watch until later, so did we learn anything new, apart from that Italy are poor and Hogg isn’t a 10?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:19 pm
by Slick
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:16 pm
Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:09 pm Tasty scoreline considering we started our FB at fly half, had our second choice second row, third and fourth choice hookers and centres that haven't started for a while.
TBH, only a win of this size was going to be acceptable after the way the last two games have gone, and they’ve done the business after a shaky start. So well done. I’m still at work and won’t get to watch until later, so did we learn anything new, apart from that Italy are poor and Hogg isn’t a 10?
Johnson, Jones and Steele had good games. I liked Craig when he came on. Cherry was excellent

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:23 pm
by Deveron Boy
Hopefully Barclay gives Guscott what he deserves when BBC goes off air - what the fuck is Guscott doing at Scotland matches?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:23 pm
by Tichtheid
Hoggy is one of the best fullbacks in the game, he should stay there.

I called for him to start this game at ten, but I’m not sure we wouldn’t have done as well if not better with vdW starting

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:23 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Hard to be anything but pleased with that, an excellent performance and all players get strong pass marks. Special mentions for Watson (as always), Jones, Duhan, both Fagersons and Cherry.

I thought Richie turned up with some excellent carries on the wings, he’s actually pretty fast when he gets going. Gilchrist was also good, he made good ground in the tight carries.

I felt there was a little over exuberance in attack at times where structure would have won out, but that’s knit picking.