Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:40 pm
Listen, if Northland had to play the Bulls. No. Wait.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:38 pmAnd ?
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Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:41 pm
They have much more concentrated quality of players. The best players in Ireland are dsitributed across 4 teams (well, 3. Sorry Connacht...). The best of England are spread across 13.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:38 pmAnd ?
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:47 pm
England should do the same then.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:41 pmThey have much more concentrated quality of players. The best players in Ireland are dsitributed across 4 teams (well, 3. Sorry Connacht...). The best of England are spread across 13.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:48 pm
Might have been possible at the dawn of professionalism, but the RFU could never buy out PRL and the clubs now.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:47 pmEngland should do the same then.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:41 pmThey have much more concentrated quality of players. The best players in Ireland are dsitributed across 4 teams (well, 3. Sorry Connacht...). The best of England are spread across 13.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:50 pm
It's not really the point, is it? You don't see Currie Cup sides competing against NZ Soup teams.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:47 pmEngland should do the same then.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:41 pmThey have much more concentrated quality of players. The best players in Ireland are dsitributed across 4 teams (well, 3. Sorry Connacht...). The best of England are spread across 13.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:51 pm
Not at all, we have a vibrant league that doesn't need to rope in super rugby rejects to make up the numbers. It's to the detriment of the clubs in European competition but they've done alright historically and Europe is only ever the icing on the cake. I wouldn't trade the premiership, and the historic clubs involved in it, for any amount of European success.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:47 pmEngland should do the same then.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:41 pmThey have much more concentrated quality of players. The best players in Ireland are dsitributed across 4 teams (well, 3. Sorry Connacht...). The best of England are spread across 13.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:52 pm
And England have about 3x more players, so pretty even…sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:41 pmThey have much more concentrated quality of players. The best players in Ireland are dsitributed across 4 teams (well, 3. Sorry Connacht...). The best of England are spread across 13.
There is a lot to hate about Irish rugby, but their stunningly successful system is not one of them
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:52 pm
Fuck's sake. Oghre and Carr have both limped out of this game.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:52 pm
Jesus, Wasps must have broken several dozen mirrors.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:53 pm
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:54 pm
Carney just given one of the most ridiculous decisions this season. Glasgow already down to 14 for pulling a rolling maul down in front of the line: from which Sinzelle scored but Carney failed to apply the advantage.
Then on next foray a Glasgow back bats the ball forward with both hands to prevent an overlap. Clear yellow. Carney's rationale is he went for it with both hands. Completely disregarding that the ball was deliberately knocked fwds and there was no chance of recovering it.
Then on next foray a Glasgow back bats the ball forward with both hands to prevent an overlap. Clear yellow. Carney's rationale is he went for it with both hands. Completely disregarding that the ball was deliberately knocked fwds and there was no chance of recovering it.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:57 pm
People are picking a very odd game to make a big deal out of, I must saySlick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:52 pmAnd England have about 3x more players, so pretty even…sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:41 pmThey have much more concentrated quality of players. The best players in Ireland are dsitributed across 4 teams (well, 3. Sorry Connacht...). The best of England are spread across 13.
There is a lot to hate about Irish rugby, but their stunningly successful system is not one of them
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:59 pm
Nothing to do with this game per se. The comment was that the Irish sides were way above all others.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:16 pm
Well that went about as badly as it could.
Shields will probably pick up a ban. Porter got injured in the warm up and we lost Carr and Oghre during the game. Possibly Barbeary too? Didn't catch why he was subbed at half time.
Shields will probably pick up a ban. Porter got injured in the warm up and we lost Carr and Oghre during the game. Possibly Barbeary too? Didn't catch why he was subbed at half time.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:17 pm
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:20 pm
Population of Ireland 7 million. Population of England 55 million.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:41 pmThey have much more concentrated quality of players. The best players in Ireland are dsitributed across 4 teams (well, 3. Sorry Connacht...). The best of England are spread across 13.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:22 pm
So you missed Carney saying he got both hands to it again on the way down after he’d popped it up into the air, so that meant he thought it was a genuine attempt to catch the ball?Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:54 pm Carney just given one of the most ridiculous decisions this season. Glasgow already down to 14 for pulling a rolling maul down in front of the line: from which Sinzelle scored but Carney failed to apply the advantage.
Then on next foray a Glasgow back bats the ball forward with both hands to prevent an overlap. Clear yellow. Carney's rationale is he went for it with both hands. Completely disregarding that the ball was deliberately knocked fwds and there was no chance of recovering it.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:29 pm
Jesus lads; it's the first weekend; don't blow your load just yet !Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:20 pmPopulation of Ireland 7 million. Population of England 55 million.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:41 pmThey have much more concentrated quality of players. The best players in Ireland are dsitributed across 4 teams (well, 3. Sorry Connacht...). The best of England are spread across 13.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:31 pm
Quins running out in; what I think is the ugliest kit I've ever seen; dysentery green/brown; I think that colour is called.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:34 pm
Good to know we have 55m rugby players to pick fromBiffer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:20 pmPopulation of Ireland 7 million. Population of England 55 million.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:41 pmThey have much more concentrated quality of players. The best players in Ireland are dsitributed across 4 teams (well, 3. Sorry Connacht...). The best of England are spread across 13.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:35 pm
I suddenly want Castres to winfishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:31 pm Quins running out in; what I think is the ugliest kit I've ever seen; dysentery green/brown; I think that colour is called.
Quins strip is an abomination
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:36 pm
Some would call it Khaki, others tell the truth KAK!!
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:43 pm
Yeah it's awful. Ironically, given the colours, it caused a big stink when it was revealed because of how bad it is.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:47 pm
Jones is allergic to passing, Jesus
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:50 pm
Quins shelling too much ball in contact. Lynagh really needed to get that ball off the pitch.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:55 pm
This Quins kit is actually affecting my enjoyment of the match
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:58 pm
Jesus that's some pretty illegal maul defence
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:01 pm
Castres stand up in the scrum to avoid being marched backwards. Ref waves play on. Right, okay.
Quins lack of accuracy of the past few weeks very much on display though.
Quins lack of accuracy of the past few weeks very much on display though.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:02 pm
Quins' kit looks like one if thise Godawful "Drool over the military" affairs that NFL teams rig out the sidelines with.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:02 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:02 pm Quins' kit looks like one if those Godawful "Drool over the military" affairs that NFL teams rig out the sidelines with.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:03 pm
Quote myself. Idiot.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:04 pm
Do you think Ireland have 7 million?JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:34 pmGood to know we have 55m rugby players to pick fromBiffer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:20 pmPopulation of Ireland 7 million. Population of England 55 million.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:41 pm
They have much more concentrated quality of players. The best players in Ireland are dsitributed across 4 teams (well, 3. Sorry Connacht...). The best of England are spread across 13.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:04 pm
No. It's almost like it's an utterly meaningless stat. Look at the population of Russia!
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:06 pm
Great hands and good decision from Tizard to bail out of that messy maul. All too often you see players stubbornly stay in and cede the scrum.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:08 pm
This is disgraceful- should be off for that chat
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:09 pm
I agree with that being a high tackle, but when Huw Jones was tackled on the line like that last week, Kay said it's not a penalty any more and that head contact is required. I'm guessing he was talking shit.
Kockott mouthing off to the ref and trying to get a card, claiming he was hit in the face when the replay says otherwise. Grub.
Kockott mouthing off to the ref and trying to get a card, claiming he was hit in the face when the replay says otherwise. Grub.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:12 pm
Might it be a Prem only approach? I've certainly noticed other seatbelt tackles in the Prem being waved off by refs stating 'no head contact'.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:09 pm I agree with that being a high tackle, but when Huw Jones was tackled on the line like that last week, Kay said it's not a penalty any more and that head contact is required. I'm guessing he was talking shit.
Kockott mouthing off to the ref and trying to get a card, claiming he was hit in the face when the replay says otherwise. Grub.
Kockott should have been done for his initial comment, starting up again he should have been carded.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:15 pm
Disappointed to be behind at half time, largely through our own errors. Ref has been very weak and I'm flabbergasted by the scrum decision on their line, but Quins have simply dropped too much ball and it's been the story of the last few matches.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:17 pm
League also seem to do camo jerseys to support the troops.Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:02 pm
Quins' kit looks like one if those Godawful "Drool over the military" affairs that NFL teams rig out the sidelines with.
Looks 'moss' coloured to me. Like someone left them in the kitbag while wet, remembered them weeks later and couldn't shake the mould stains.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:27 pm
Lol just said Castres' backline has an average age of 35... true or an exaggeration?!