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I for one apologise to all my Kiwi and Aus mates and bros for our cowardly exit from the competition....
I put it down to our new coaches inexperience and readiness....hell , how many coaches have their first taste of action against the ABs.....

thats enough to make most coaches shit their pants.
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Sards wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:52 am I for one apologise to all my Kiwi and Aus mates and bros for our cowardly exit from the competition....
I put it down to our new coaches inexperience and readiness....hell , how many coaches have their first taste of action against the ABs.....

thats enough to make most coaches shit their pants.
You are going to get back pain from all the bending over you are doing.
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handyman wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:00 am
Sards wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:52 am I for one apologise to all my Kiwi and Aus mates and bros for our cowardly exit from the competition....
I put it down to our new coaches inexperience and readiness....hell , how many coaches have their first taste of action against the ABs.....

thats enough to make most coaches shit their pants.
You are going to get back pain from all the bending over you are doing.
You obviously have no shame........................................................................
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handyman wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:00 am
Sards wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:52 am I for one apologise to all my Kiwi and Aus mates and bros for our cowardly exit from the competition....
I put it down to our new coaches inexperience and readiness....hell , how many coaches have their first taste of action against the ABs.....

thats enough to make most coaches shit their pants.
You are going to get back pain from all the bending over you are doing.
I will not tolerate you trolling Sards when he is being fair, reasonable and honest!
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Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:10 am
handyman wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:00 am
Sards wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:52 am I for one apologise to all my Kiwi and Aus mates and bros for our cowardly exit from the competition....
I put it down to our new coaches inexperience and readiness....hell , how many coaches have their first taste of action against the ABs.....

thats enough to make most coaches shit their pants.
You are going to get back pain from all the bending over you are doing.
I will not tolerate you trolling Sards when he is being fair, reasonable and honest!
Cheers AC ....look...I do understand that pride would probably stop most from admitting their shame...and therefore the denials and misrepresentations of the situation.
It takes a real man to admit that they are scared.
Just like It takes a real man to cry...treat a woman right.
Its a level of awareness and self confidence beyond most Yarpies.
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Sards wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:24 am
Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:10 am
handyman wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:00 am

You are going to get back pain from all the bending over you are doing.
I will not tolerate you trolling Sards when he is being fair, reasonable and honest!
Cheers AC ....look...I do understand that pride would probably stop most from admitting their shame...and therefore the denials and misrepresentations of the situation.
It takes a real man to admit that they are scared.
Just like It takes a real man to cry...treat a woman right.
Its a level of awareness and self confidence beyond most Yarpies.
That batch you are smoking now, chuck it in the bin boet.
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Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:10 am
handyman wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:00 am
Sards wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:52 am I for one apologise to all my Kiwi and Aus mates and bros for our cowardly exit from the competition....
I put it down to our new coaches inexperience and readiness....hell , how many coaches have their first taste of action against the ABs.....

thats enough to make most coaches shit their pants.
You are going to get back pain from all the bending over you are doing.
I will not tolerate you trolling Sards when he is being fair, reasonable and honest!
Carter's Choice wrote: Oh how cute, handyman has an internet White Knight. A cyber Warrior who protects him from criticism. Do you perform cyber reach-arounds for him? Or is your love for him platonic, like a brother rather than a boyfriend?
You were saying only yesterday....
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Starting to see why the ABs are so pissed to see us go.
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To be fair, we have lost by larger margins.
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At least the Wallabies have had some game time in the lead up to this game.

I'm fearful on how the Argentinians are going to manage: I think their encounters with both these teams will give a more accurate indication of how we would have fared.
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https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/spri ... 0-20201104

Well, it seems South Africa is confirmed in The Rugby Championship with Arg, Aus and NZ until 2030. According to most Antipodeans, we were going to get kicked out and sued into oblivion. The opposite now seems to be true.

As true gentlemen, we're happy to help out our Southern Hemisphere brothers.
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That was quite predictable. Makes some of the hysterical screaming on this thread even more hilarious. We'll probably win it in 2021 too, just to show we're back.

Until then, let's watch New Zealand and Australia play for the umpteenth time...
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assfly wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:17 am That was quite predictable. Makes some of the hysterical screaming on this thread even more hilarious. We'll probably win it in 2021 too, just to show we're back.

Until then, let's watch New Zealand and Australia play for the umpteenth time...
Aren’t you enjoying it mate? There has been some pretty good rugby even if the last game was a bit one sided.
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Trapper wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:23 am
assfly wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:17 am That was quite predictable. Makes some of the hysterical screaming on this thread even more hilarious. We'll probably win it in 2021 too, just to show we're back.

Until then, let's watch New Zealand and Australia play for the umpteenth time...
Aren’t you enjoying it mate? There has been some pretty good rugby even if the last game was a bit one sided.
Watching 1 side lose the bledisloe for the 18th time in a row? Riveting.
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Trapper wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:23 am
Aren’t you enjoying it mate? There has been some pretty good rugby even if the last game was a bit one sided.
I enjoyed the draw, but the rest of it has been one-way traffic. I'm sure the kiwi fans are loving it, but for a neutral the novelty has worn off.
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assfly wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:31 am
Trapper wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:23 am
Aren’t you enjoying it mate? There has been some pretty good rugby even if the last game was a bit one sided.
I enjoyed the draw, but the rest of it has been one-way traffic. I'm sure the kiwi fans are loving it, but for a neutral the novelty has worn off.
Well we didn't have many options after the SARU decided not to show up.
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handyman wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:26 am
Trapper wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:23 am
assfly wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:17 am That was quite predictable. Makes some of the hysterical screaming on this thread even more hilarious. We'll probably win it in 2021 too, just to show we're back.

Until then, let's watch New Zealand and Australia play for the umpteenth time...
Aren’t you enjoying it mate? There has been some pretty good rugby even if the last game was a bit one sided.
Watching 1 side lose the bledisloe for the 18th time in a row? Riveting.
This happen every year. The Wallabies is competitive the first test and then it is one way traffic.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:43 am This happen every year. The Wallabies is competitive the first test and then it is one way traffic.
Not enough minutes beforehand?
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Carter's Choice wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:41 am Well we didn't have many options after the SARU decided not to show up.
I get that. I used to really enjoy the Bledisloe Cup but it's become a bore in recent years due to NZs dominance, so this year really feels like overkill. But that's just me.
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Jb1981 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:45 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:43 am This happen every year. The Wallabies is competitive the first test and then it is one way traffic.
Not enough minutes beforehand?
Maybe. They are more into RL then CC or NPC.
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This 10 year deal has blown up spectacularly in the NZ and Aus posters faces. One would think some would own up.
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Carter's Choice wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:41 am
assfly wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:31 am
Trapper wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:23 am
Aren’t you enjoying it mate? There has been some pretty good rugby even if the last game was a bit one sided.
I enjoyed the draw, but the rest of it has been one-way traffic. I'm sure the kiwi fans are loving it, but for a neutral the novelty has worn off.
Well we didn't have many options after the SARU decided not to show up.
I think you will find that most Saffers are suurgat about not participating...they wouldnt be supporters if they werent....

I mean...a perfect oppurtunity to test our local strength....

But they would rather belittle it and make excuses than admit the coach is a bangbroek
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handyman wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:26 am
Trapper wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:23 am
assfly wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:17 am That was quite predictable. Makes some of the hysterical screaming on this thread even more hilarious. We'll probably win it in 2021 too, just to show we're back.

Until then, let's watch New Zealand and Australia play for the umpteenth time...
Aren’t you enjoying it mate? There has been some pretty good rugby even if the last game was a bit one sided.
Watching 1 side lose the bledisloe for the 18th time in a row? Riveting.
Until 2018... you could say it was boring watching SA lose in NZ for the umpteenth time... how long was it? 2009? But matches in SA were always what I look forward to most as were usually the most competitive...
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Sards wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:11 am
Carter's Choice wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:41 am
assfly wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:31 am

I enjoyed the draw, but the rest of it has been one-way traffic. I'm sure the kiwi fans are loving it, but for a neutral the novelty has worn off.
Well we didn't have many options after the SARU decided not to show up.
I think you will find that most Saffers are suurgat about not participating...they wouldnt be supporters if they werent....

I mean...a perfect oppurtunity to test our local strength....

But they would rather belittle it and make excuses than admit the coach is a bangbroek
Sards, you would be the first one screaming and wailing if we sent an underprepared and under representative side which took a hundred point hiding from two sides that have been playing regularly for months.

To be honest, I wouldn't be particularly worried about getting thrashed; what would worry me is the prospect of picking up injuries through not being match fit.
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handyman wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:47 am This 10 year deal has blown up spectacularly in the NZ and Aus posters faces. One would think some would own up.
I don't understand.
We are told that we are not wanted or needed as we offer nothing to Super Rugby or the RC
So we go in search of a tournament that wants us.
The pandemic hits, we can't play in the backyard tournament. They weep and wail because they need us, we seem to bring in the big money.
They then throw their toys out the cot BUT want us included for another 10 years so that they don't go bang?

So are we or are we not important to them?
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Rinkals wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:52 pm
Sards wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:11 am
Carter's Choice wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:41 am

Well we didn't have many options after the SARU decided not to show up.
I think you will find that most Saffers are suurgat about not participating...they wouldnt be supporters if they werent....

I mean...a perfect oppurtunity to test our local strength....

But they would rather belittle it and make excuses than admit the coach is a bangbroek
Sards, you would be the first one screaming and wailing if we sent an underprepared and under representative side which took a hundred point hiding from two sides that have been playing regularly for months.

To be honest, I wouldn't be particularly worried about getting thrashed; what would worry me is the prospect of picking up injuries through not being match fit.
Big difference between being called the world champions and actually being the world champions. If you don't care about your reputation don't lower me to your level. The nation looking like world champions right now are the ABs. And we look like the wimpy little kid who landed a fluke blow and now is hiding behind his moms skirt because he's too afraid to face it.

I say it about the Sharks every week they play. Go out and give everything...because you will be measured on your efforts and commitment. Any thing less than your best and you deserve all criticism. Lose whilst playing your heart out you did your best.
We have no vokken clue at all what a bok side will look like. How they will play. Because we haven't made the effort. We don't even know what our Springbok coach has as a vision. What strategies and how he reacts to a loss or a win. It's the most unimpressive start to any coaches career.

I always used to say that the reason why the Stormers always got such a klap from the Kiwis was because they were beaten before they took the field. In their minds. Afraid. This shit is now permeating our Springbok rugby.

Thats my opinion. I hate cowards
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Chilli wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:54 pm
handyman wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:47 am This 10 year deal has blown up spectacularly in the NZ and Aus posters faces. One would think some would own up.
I don't understand.
We are told that we are not wanted or needed as we offer nothing to Super Rugby or the RC
So we go in search of a tournament that wants us.
The pandemic hits, we can't play in the backyard tournament. They weep and wail because they need us, we seem to bring in the big money.
They then throw their toys out the cot BUT want us included for another 10 years so that they don't go bang?

So are we or are we not important to them?
Wasn't it more to do with timing? ie leaving it till the last minute? If done well in advance so other three teams could have organised themselves, then I don't think it would have been much of an issue.
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Grandpa wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:42 pm
Chilli wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:54 pm
handyman wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:47 am This 10 year deal has blown up spectacularly in the NZ and Aus posters faces. One would think some would own up.
I don't understand.
We are told that we are not wanted or needed as we offer nothing to Super Rugby or the RC
So we go in search of a tournament that wants us.
The pandemic hits, we can't play in the backyard tournament. They weep and wail because they need us, we seem to bring in the big money.
They then throw their toys out the cot BUT want us included for another 10 years so that they don't go bang?

So are we or are we not important to them?
Wasn't it more to do with timing? ie leaving it till the last minute? If done well in advance so other three teams could have organised themselves, then I don't think it would have been much of an issue.
With which players? You do understand that leisure travel was banned. Border crossing was banned. Sporting activities were banned. Contact sport was banned.
I know that you like to beat us, but I am sure that you would have wanted a fit and competitive Bok side to play against. You are having it easy enough playing a crap Aussie side.
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Chilli wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:08 pm
Grandpa wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:42 pm
Chilli wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:54 pm

I don't understand.
We are told that we are not wanted or needed as we offer nothing to Super Rugby or the RC
So we go in search of a tournament that wants us.
The pandemic hits, we can't play in the backyard tournament. They weep and wail because they need us, we seem to bring in the big money.
They then throw their toys out the cot BUT want us included for another 10 years so that they don't go bang?

So are we or are we not important to them?
Wasn't it more to do with timing? ie leaving it till the last minute? If done well in advance so other three teams could have organised themselves, then I don't think it would have been much of an issue.
With which players? You do understand that leisure travel was banned. Border crossing was banned. Sporting activities were banned. Contact sport was banned.
I know that you like to beat us, but I am sure that you would have wanted a fit and competitive Bok side to play against. You are having it easy enough playing a crap Aussie side.
eh? I just said they should have given more warning and pulled out earlier...

I'm not suggesting they should have played...
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Grandpa wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:51 pm
Chilli wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:08 pm
Grandpa wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:42 pm
Wasn't it more to do with timing? ie leaving it till the last minute? If done well in advance so other three teams could have organised themselves, then I don't think it would have been much of an issue.
With which players? You do understand that leisure travel was banned. Border crossing was banned. Sporting activities were banned. Contact sport was banned.
I know that you like to beat us, but I am sure that you would have wanted a fit and competitive Bok side to play against. You are having it easy enough playing a crap Aussie side.
eh? I just said they should have given more warning and pulled out earlier...

I'm not suggesting they should have played...
My most humble apologies
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Sards wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:11 am
Carter's Choice wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:41 am
assfly wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:31 am

I enjoyed the draw, but the rest of it has been one-way traffic. I'm sure the kiwi fans are loving it, but for a neutral the novelty has worn off.
Well we didn't have many options after the SARU decided not to show up.
I think you will find that most Saffers are suurgat about not participating...they wouldnt be supporters if they werent....

I mean...a perfect oppurtunity to test our local strength....

But they would rather belittle it and make excuses than admit the coach is a bangbroek
Your fellow Cape Crusaders agree.
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Glad that got sorted.

Much as SA would enhance 6N competitiveness I'd say fans would be dead against it (and unions pre Covid).
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Chilli wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:53 pm
Grandpa wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:51 pm
Chilli wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:08 pm

With which players? You do understand that leisure travel was banned. Border crossing was banned. Sporting activities were banned. Contact sport was banned.
I know that you like to beat us, but I am sure that you would have wanted a fit and competitive Bok side to play against. You are having it easy enough playing a crap Aussie side.
eh? I just said they should have given more warning and pulled out earlier...

I'm not suggesting they should have played...
My most humble apologies
No worries.

Any idea what the revamped Rugby Championship will look like next year? 12 matches, so same as 2018. Mini tours... NZ/Aussie to Argie/SA and vice versa.... just wondering what is going to be different?
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SARU only signed for 3 years...gives them time to arrange for an addition to the 6 nations
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Sards wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:31 pm SARU only signed for 3 years...gives them time to arrange for an addition to the 6 nations
Why did the SARU say ten years? Bit naughty if true...
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Grandpa wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:20 pm
Sards wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:31 pm SARU only signed for 3 years...gives them time to arrange for an addition to the 6 nations
Why did the SARU say ten years? Bit naughty if true...
Sards is a Cape Crusader troll.
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PRO16, Rugby Championship ... SA Rugby gets the best of both worlds
By Mike Greenaway Time of article published 4h ago


DURBAN - The revelation that the Springboks have committed to the Rugby Championship for the next 10 years is hugely positive for South African rugby, and with our provincial teams joining the Pro16, it means this country has the best of both worlds.

There are benefits to be had for playing in Europe just as there are positives to maintaining a relationship with world rugby leaders in New Zealand and Australia, so this latest development means South African rugby has a foot in each hemisphere, which should translate into healthy growth.


As SA Rugby boss Jurie Roux pointed out, southern hemisphere countries have won five of the six World Cups that have been held since the game turned professional in 1996, the year that the Tri

Nations was formed (later to become the Rugby Championship when Argentina joined).

I don’t think it is a coincidence that New Zealand, South African and Australia have dominated the World Cup in this period given the fierceness of the competition between the All Blacks, Springboks and Wallabies, with the Pumas no slouches themselves.


While the Boks are the worthy World Cup holders, the All Blacks consistently set the pace in international rugby – let’s not kid ourselves on this one – and it makes plenty of sense for the Boks to maintain their close association with their traditional rivals.

Meanwhile, the addition of the Bulls, Sharks, Lions and Stormers to the northern hemisphere’s

Pro16 makes sense on a number of fronts – it is geographically a far better option, financially it is substantially more lucrative than Super Rugby and, as the Cheetahs and Kings players will tell you, there are significant nuances the players pick up from playing in different conditions in a different hemisphere.

The Springboks have not played international rugby, since their victory at the Rugby World Cup 12 months ago. COVID-19 forced SA Rugby to pull out of the Rugby Championship, currently taking place in Australia. Their next big assignment is the British and Irish Lions tour taking place here next year. But, loosehead prop Steven Kitshoff is not worried that the...
The fact that the Boks will continue in the Rugby Championship but have ditched Super Rugby is an admission that the one competition remains healthy while the other has slowly and painfully imploded over the last decade, pretty much since the heady days of the exciting Super 12.

Sanzaar’s continued fiddling with the recipe for that competition ultimately killed it off.

It is also exciting that the Championship is to be refreshed without it being expanded. It will remain Argentina, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa but there will now be 12 home and away games and “mini-tours” as Sanzaar have put it.

It was interesting to hear Sanzaar CEO Andy Marinos say that this news on the Championship is only the beginning, an “important start.”

“This is the first of a number of announcements that will be made over the coming weeks and months as we continue to plan into 2021 and beyond,” Marinos said. “There are some exciting times ahead for rugby in the southern hemisphere as we look to reposition our structure, competitions and future direction as an organisation.”

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It seems SARU have actually done a good job for a change. Must be tough for Aus and NZ that we managed to best them when it came to the negotiating table.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:09 am IOL
PRO16, Rugby Championship ... SA Rugby gets the best of both worlds
By Mike Greenaway Time of article published 4h ago


DURBAN - The revelation that the Springboks have committed to the Rugby Championship for the next 10 years is hugely positive for South African rugby, and with our provincial teams joining the Pro16, it means this country has the best of both worlds.

There are benefits to be had for playing in Europe just as there are positives to maintaining a relationship with world rugby leaders in New Zealand and Australia, so this latest development means South African rugby has a foot in each hemisphere, which should translate into healthy growth.


As SA Rugby boss Jurie Roux pointed out, southern hemisphere countries have won five of the six World Cups that have been held since the game turned professional in 1996, the year that the Tri

Nations was formed (later to become the Rugby Championship when Argentina joined).

I don’t think it is a coincidence that New Zealand, South African and Australia have dominated the World Cup in this period given the fierceness of the competition between the All Blacks, Springboks and Wallabies, with the Pumas no slouches themselves.


While the Boks are the worthy World Cup holders, the All Blacks consistently set the pace in international rugby – let’s not kid ourselves on this one – and it makes plenty of sense for the Boks to maintain their close association with their traditional rivals.

Meanwhile, the addition of the Bulls, Sharks, Lions and Stormers to the northern hemisphere’s

Pro16 makes sense on a number of fronts – it is geographically a far better option, financially it is substantially more lucrative than Super Rugby and, as the Cheetahs and Kings players will tell you, there are significant nuances the players pick up from playing in different conditions in a different hemisphere.

The Springboks have not played international rugby, since their victory at the Rugby World Cup 12 months ago. COVID-19 forced SA Rugby to pull out of the Rugby Championship, currently taking place in Australia. Their next big assignment is the British and Irish Lions tour taking place here next year. But, loosehead prop Steven Kitshoff is not worried that the...
The fact that the Boks will continue in the Rugby Championship but have ditched Super Rugby is an admission that the one competition remains healthy while the other has slowly and painfully imploded over the last decade, pretty much since the heady days of the exciting Super 12.

Sanzaar’s continued fiddling with the recipe for that competition ultimately killed it off.

It is also exciting that the Championship is to be refreshed without it being expanded. It will remain Argentina, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa but there will now be 12 home and away games and “mini-tours” as Sanzaar have put it.

It was interesting to hear Sanzaar CEO Andy Marinos say that this news on the Championship is only the beginning, an “important start.”

“This is the first of a number of announcements that will be made over the coming weeks and months as we continue to plan into 2021 and beyond,” Marinos said. “There are some exciting times ahead for rugby in the southern hemisphere as we look to reposition our structure, competitions and future direction as an organisation.”

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People keep going on about the new 12 match format. But how is it different to the old 12 match format which also featured mini tours?
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handyman wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:46 am It seems SARU have actually done a good job for a change. Must be tough for Aus and NZ that we managed to best them when it came to the negotiating table.
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