NPR

TB63 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:09 pm BTCC... End of discussion..

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:19 pm

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:31 pm

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:23 pm

Not been watching the F2 then?

Nothing wrong with Silverstone that the forthcoming Aero Regs changes won’t sort out, if their intentions prove to be realised.

I'm not sure why a different classification being different speaks to Silverstone being other than a poor circuit for overtaking in F1. There is a lot to like about the circuit, hopefully changes will come that really deliver improvements, just as things stand it is on the boring side, as actually are a lot of F1 circuits.

Because the circuit isn’t boring. Formula 1 is boring because it’s virtually impossible to follow within a second or two of another car for any length of time and therefore almost impossible to set up overtaking opportunities unless you are something like two seconds a lap quicker which is a huge margin in F1 terms. As you say, a lot of circuits suffer from this . Can you name a circuit good for overtaking? Silverstone, with it’s wonderful sequences of high speed corners, suffers as much as any. These cars couldn’t even follow closely on an Indycar Oval.

The rule changes planned for next year have been delayed until 2022. Even then I doubt they will be sufficient. Until then, if you like proper racing, try F2 is my advice.

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:04 pm Speaking of F2, Dan Ticktum doesn’t seem to have matured a whole lot. Pretty embarrassing I thought.

Ilott and Aitkin, on the other hand, still show promise and Mick Schumacher is showing it’s not just the name that got him into F2.

F2 is usually great racing, people, if you haven’t tried it. And you get to see the rising stars before most solely F1 fans. Most recently, Lando, Russell, Gasly, Albon, Latifi and particularly Le Clerc have all featured strongly. It really does sort out the wheat from the chaff.

sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:21 pm

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:04 pm Speaking of F2, Dan Ticktum doesn’t seem to have matured a whole lot. Pretty embarrassing I thought.

Ilott and Aitkin, on the other hand, still show promise and Mick Schumacher is showing it’s not just the name that got him into F2.

F2 is usually great racing, people, if you haven’t tried it. And you get to see the rising stars before most solely F1 fans. Most recently, Lando, Russell, Gasly, Albon, Latifi and particularly Le Clerc have all featured strongly. It really does sort out the wheat from the chaff.

Where can one watch the F2 other than Sky?

Saint wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:34 pm Rumours starting to make the rounds that Vettel won't see the season out with Ferrari

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:46 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:34 pm Rumours starting to make the rounds that Vettel won't see the season out with Ferrari

His car sux, but he’s also forgotten how to go round a corner without cocking it up.

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:56 pm

sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:21 pm

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:04 pm Speaking of F2, Dan Ticktum doesn’t seem to have matured a whole lot. Pretty embarrassing I thought.

Ilott and Aitkin, on the other hand, still show promise and Mick Schumacher is showing it’s not just the name that got him into F2.

F2 is usually great racing, people, if you haven’t tried it. And you get to see the rising stars before most solely F1 fans. Most recently, Lando, Russell, Gasly, Albon, Latifi and particularly Le Clerc have all featured strongly. It really does sort out the wheat from the chaff.

Where can one watch the F2 other than Sky?

YouTube is usually an option for highlights or, depending on where you are (or your vpn etc. says you are) F1tv may show full races online.

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:21 am McLaren and Williams have withdrawn their appeal against Tracing Point's penalty.

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:21 am McLaren and Williams have withdrawn their appeal against Tracing Point's penalty.

Renault and Ferrari are soldiering on; and Tracing Point's own appeal continues

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:11 pm
It's not unusual to see a driver/car combination go to shit; & often the explanation is that the design of the car has changed, & now the aero responses doesn't suit their driving style; you're always going to see that in cornering.

I think Ferrari are now; understandably; tailoring the car for LeClerc, & his preferences.

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:04 am

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:21 am McLaren and Williams have withdrawn their appeal against Tracing Point's penalty.

Renault and Ferrari are soldiering on; and Tracing Point's own appeal continues

You will no doubt have heard Stroll seniors comments over the weekend. Not particularly dispassionate about this and I’m not sure how likely he is to make sound decisions about how to proceed. I see this row as being more about the future than the past.

Saint wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:54 am

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:04 am

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:21 am McLaren and Williams have withdrawn their appeal against Tracing Point's penalty.

Renault and Ferrari are soldiering on; and Tracing Point's own appeal continues

You will no doubt have heard Stroll seniors comments over the weekend. Not particularly dispassionate about this and I’m not sure how likely he is to make sound decisions about how to proceed. I see this row as being more about the future than the past.

I actually thought that Toto's comments on this were far more illuminating

sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:21 pm

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:04 pm Speaking of F2, Dan Ticktum doesn’t seem to have matured a whole lot. Pretty embarrassing I thought.

Ilott and Aitkin, on the other hand, still show promise and Mick Schumacher is showing it’s not just the name that got him into F2.

F2 is usually great racing, people, if you haven’t tried it. And you get to see the rising stars before most solely F1 fans. Most recently, Lando, Russell, Gasly, Albon, Latifi and particularly Le Clerc have all featured strongly. It really does sort out the wheat from the chaff.

Where can one watch the F2 other than Sky?

Mr Bungle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:32 pm Gotta say I’ve really been enjoying F1 of late. I think two seasons of Drive to Survive gave me an insight into the drivers, teams and principals, particularly those mid tier teams battling to stay in the hunt of the front pack. The Sky coverage is fantastic. Quality commentary and the cameras/stats/data available is superb. Shame there’s no fans for a start, and there could be more overtaking/actual car on car racing, but on the whole a quality package.

Only issue for me here in NZ is timing. 1am on a Monday morning with work and kids is about the worst timing for any live sport for me. Still good catching up on the race Monday night even knowing the result. Which I never really do for any other sport outside of an AB test.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:26 pm How in need of an update is this Barcelona track? Short, narrow and really shabby. These 4m wide cars are just going to follow each other around tomorrow.

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:32 pm Fourth place being lapped. This is two hours of my life I’ll never get back. It’s a scalextric race.

sturginho wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:44 pm Yeah that was fairly dull

sturginho wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:44 pm Yeah that was fairly dull

‘tsek wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:24 am

sturginho wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:44 pm Yeah that was fairly dull

No love for MotoGP here? Anything but dull since the start of the season. Another bonus has been the unpredictability with M Marquez out, although not sure if even he would have been able to keep the Honda at the front.

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:30 am

‘tsek wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:24 am

sturginho wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:44 pm Yeah that was fairly dull

No love for MotoGP here? Anything but dull since the start of the season. Another bonus has been the unpredictability with M Marquez out, although not sure if even he would have been able to keep the Honda at the front.

Yes, I watch MotoGP.

handyman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:28 pm I'm following every race in MotoGP this year since Brad Binder is in the top class. He has been fantastic.

Before that, only caught a few races every season.

‘tsek wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:24 am

sturginho wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:44 pm Yeah that was fairly dull

No love for MotoGP here? Anything but dull since the start of the season. Another bonus has been the unpredictability with M Marquez out, although not sure if even he would have been able to keep the Honda at the front.

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:38 pm

‘tsek wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:24 am

sturginho wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:44 pm Yeah that was fairly dull

No love for MotoGP here? Anything but dull since the start of the season. Another bonus has been the unpredictability with M Marquez out, although not sure if even he would have been able to keep the Honda at the front.

So why not start a MotoGP thread?
Good timing given all the fallouts and the horrendous incidents in Moto2 and MotoGP in Austria.

Shanky’s mate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:35 am

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:38 pm

‘tsek wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:24 am

No love for MotoGP here? Anything but dull since the start of the season. Another bonus has been the unpredictability with M Marquez out, although not sure if even he would have been able to keep the Honda at the front.

So why not start a MotoGP thread?
Good timing given all the fallouts and the horrendous incidents in Moto2 and MotoGP in Austria.

I was working so I had to wait for a replay...

Holy crapsticks Batman. I’ve never seen such a close call. Yet to see the Moto2 race.