NPR

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:24 pm 29/10/20
Cases: 23,065
Deaths: 280 (up from 189 last thurs)

Openside wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:44 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:58 am Not too sure what signoficance 12,000 mutations means tbh.
However it puts OS posts on this matter into pwespective.

Its still the same strain, I assume they have detected 12,000 minuscule variations in the virus around the globe.

c69 you are at the cutting edge surely you knew all about these 12,000 mutations (that no one is talking about)

TB63 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:41 pm

Openside wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:44 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:58 am Not too sure what signoficance 12,000 mutations means tbh.
However it puts OS posts on this matter into pwespective.

Its still the same strain, I assume they have detected 12,000 minuscule variations in the virus around the globe.

c69 you are at the cutting edge surely you knew all about these 12,000 mutations (that no one is talking about)

Do you realise 1 miniscule mutation could negate any vaccine currently in development? ..

TB63 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:41 pm

Openside wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:44 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:58 am Not too sure what signoficance 12,000 mutations means tbh.
However it puts OS posts on this matter into pwespective.

Its still the same strain, I assume they have detected 12,000 minuscule variations in the virus around the globe.

c69 you are at the cutting edge surely you knew all about these 12,000 mutations (that no one is talking about)

Do you realise 1 miniscule mutation could negate any vaccine currently in development? ..

Openside wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:30 pm

TB63 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:41 pm

Openside wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:44 pm

Its still the same strain, I assume they have detected 12,000 minuscule variations in the virus around the globe.

c69 you are at the cutting edge surely you knew all about these 12,000 mutations (that no one is talking about)

Do you realise 1 miniscule mutation could negate any vaccine currently in development? ..

since there have allegedly been 12,000 of them we are clearly spunking more money up the proverbial gum tree

Tilly Orifice wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:03 am

Openside wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:30 pm

TB63 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:41 pm

Do you realise 1 miniscule mutation could negate any vaccine currently in development? ..

since there have allegedly been 12,000 of them we are clearly spunking more money up the proverbial gum tree

Could, but wouldn't necessarily, perhaps.

the slow and mild nature of the mutations is good news for a vaccine.

“The virus is still so similar now to the initial sequence that there isn’t really much reason to think the differences will matter in terms of vaccine,” Neuman said.

Vaccines, in general, tend to target an early version of the virus.

Take the flu vaccine, for example.

“The H1N1 annual vaccine is still using a strain from 2009. It’s the ancestor of the various forms that have come after, and while there are differences now, a response against the ancestor seems to give good results against all the descendants,” Neuman said.

Usually, an older strain of a virus will “preserve enough features” that it will provide immunity against a whole group of variants, Neuman adds.

But the flu virus mutates fast and erratically from year to year.

On top of that, our immune system “has a terrible memory for flu viruses,” Neuman said, noting that the immune response to the flu only lasts around a year before we need to get revaccinated.

Schleiss says a better analogy for COVID-19 is the mumps. For more than 45 years, we’ve had a very effective vaccine for measles, mumps, and rubella (which are also RNA viruses).

“These viruses have not mutated [enough] to escape the protection provided by the vaccines,” Rose said. The same could very well apply to COVID-19.

“It should be possible to make an effective COVID-19 vaccine that will provide long-lasting immunity against this particular virus just as we have for many other viruses that do not change rapidly,” Rose added.

Openside wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:44 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:58 am Not too sure what signoficance 12,000 mutations means tbh.
However it puts OS posts on this matter into pwespective.

Its still the same strain, I assume they have detected 12,000 minuscule variations in the virus around the globe.

c69 you are at the cutting edge surely you knew all about these 12,000 mutations (that no one is talking about)

Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:36 am Strong correlation between eat out to help out scheme and increased infections

https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics ... 7.2020.pdf

That was half a billion quid well spent.

Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:36 am Strong correlation between eat out to help out scheme and increased infections

https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics ... 7.2020.pdf

That was half a billion quid well spent.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:47 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:36 am Strong correlation between eat out to help out scheme and increased infections

https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics ... 7.2020.pdf

That was half a billion quid well spent.

52 pages??? tl;dr

Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:03 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:47 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:36 am Strong correlation between eat out to help out scheme and increased infections

https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics ... 7.2020.pdf

That was half a billion quid well spent.

52 pages??? tl;dr

Yeah, but for the modern attention span the lead author has highlighted a few things on twitter.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:45 am

Openside wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:44 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:58 am Not too sure what signoficance 12,000 mutations means tbh.
However it puts OS posts on this matter into pwespective.

Its still the same strain, I assume they have detected 12,000 minuscule variations in the virus around the globe.

c69 you are at the cutting edge surely you knew all about these 12,000 mutations (that no one is talking about)

Once again, you are talking out your blowhole.
The variant currently making it's way around Europe is a new strain that possibly originated in Spain during the summer.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/e ... -1.4394152

Openside wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:46 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:45 am

Openside wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:44 pm

Its still the same strain, I assume they have detected 12,000 minuscule variations in the virus around the globe.

c69 you are at the cutting edge surely you knew all about these 12,000 mutations (that no one is talking about)

Once again, you are talking out your blowhole.
The variant currently making it's way around Europe is a new strain that possibly originated in Spain during the summer.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/e ... -1.4394152

That is a majority in Ireland, besides the only relevant point is if the vaccine they are working on doesn't 'work' for both strains.

Rinkals wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:49 pm

Openside wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:46 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:45 am

Once again, you are talking out your blowhole.
The variant currently making it's way around Europe is a new strain that possibly originated in Spain during the summer.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/e ... -1.4394152

That is a majority in Ireland, besides the only relevant point is if the vaccine they are working on doesn't 'work' for both strains.

We are very fortunate in having an expert in the field of virology such as yourself on the bored.

Who is going to tell the various institutions currently working on a vaccine that their efforts are wasted in view of the 12,000 mutations?

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:29 pm Sounds like a national lockdown on the cards and due to kick off on Wednesday.

Day late and a dollar short again

Rinkals wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:49 pm

Openside wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:46 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:45 am

Once again, you are talking out your blowhole.
The variant currently making it's way around Europe is a new strain that possibly originated in Spain during the summer.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/e ... -1.4394152

That is a majority in Ireland, besides the only relevant point is if the vaccine they are working on doesn't 'work' for both strains.

We are very fortunate in having an expert in the field of virology such as yourself on the bored.

Who is going to tell the various institutions currently working on a virus that their efforts are wasted in view of the 12,000 mutations?

Openside wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:07 am

Rinkals wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:49 pm

Openside wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:46 pm

That is a majority in Ireland, besides the only relevant point is if the vaccine they are working on doesn't 'work' for both strains.

We are very fortunate in having an expert in the field of virology such as yourself on the bored.

Who is going to tell the various institutions currently working on a virus that their efforts are wasted in view of the 12,000 mutations?

I am not claiming to be an expert in virology presumably you are not claiming to be a pompous twat?

Rinkals wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:24 am

Openside wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:07 am

Rinkals wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:49 pm

We are very fortunate in having an expert in the field of virology such as yourself on the bored.

Who is going to tell the various institutions currently working on a virus that their efforts are wasted in view of the 12,000 mutations?

I am not claiming to be an expert in virology presumably you are not claiming to be a pompous twat?

I was being sarcastic.

Obviously you are not an expert, but you apparently still feel that your opinion of the likely efficacy of a vaccine carries weight.

Part of the problem with fighting this virus is that there are too many armchair virologists talking shit..

salanya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:58 pm So instead of choosing a 2-week lockdown to include the Half Term holidays, as advised by the scientists, the government waited so they could announce a 4 week full lockdown.

Sounds about right for these inept idiots. Not like they could have learned lessions from March, or from other European countries in the last month......

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:56 am

Jb1981 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:31 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:41 pm



Happy to have a flounce bet with you that we don’t get to 49,000 cases a day in October.

That’s the “without further action” number and they are presumably not going to sit on their hands. Did they specify a target state by mid-October considering any action being put in place?

No where is he saying that. So my flounce bet stands.


Btw, you do realise the figure presented (in red ) was complete and utter fiction and out medical officers should be ashamed of themselves.

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:10 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:56 am

Jb1981 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:31 pm

That’s the “without further action” number and they are presumably not going to sit on their hands. Did they specify a target state by mid-October considering any action being put in place?

No where is he saying that. So my flounce bet stands.


Btw, you do realise the figure presented (in red ) was complete and utter fiction and out medical officers should be ashamed of themselves.

lol

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:22 am I was right.

There are 96,000 people catching the virus every day

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:52 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:22 am I was right.

or not. - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54723962

There are 96,000 people catching the virus every day

mmm. Who to believe, you or Royal Imperial College...

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:07 am 15th of October .... now do run along

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:41 pm Happy to have a flounce bet with you that we don’t get to 49,000 cases a day in October.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:42 am I see that the Daily Mail is starting to poke at the PPE cash bungs story. They're also having a competition to win an electric car.

Anyone have that on their 2020 bingo card?

Lobby wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:52 am

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:42 am I see that the Daily Mail is starting to poke at the PPE cash bungs story. They're also having a competition to win an electric car.

Anyone have that on their 2020 bingo card?

It’s interesting how many people still treat the Mail as if it’s still edited by the right wing loon, Paul Dacre. It’s current editor, Geordie Greig, was previously at the Independent and supported remain in the referendum. He has shifted the Mail’s outlook much more to the centre ground,.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:52 pm And. Never. Read. The. Comments.

In fairness to the Mail, it has always had an ability to get its teeth into a story when it drags itself out of the mire it usually wallows in.

Boris Johnson will hold a news conference at 16:00 GMT amid speculation a new England-wide lockdown is being considered.
The PM will be joined by England's chief medical officer Chris Whitty and the government's chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance.
It is expected a new "stay at home" order could be announced, with schools, colleges and universities exempt.