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Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:35 pm
by vball
C T wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:42 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:18 am
Slick wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:10 am So what do we actually have to do to come 2nd? Just win? Or win with a bonus point? Keep them to no bonus point?

By my reading of the table we have to win by more than seven, oh and we have to get the same try bp as France, zero or one.
Or win by 5 but with a try bonus point while denying them a try bonus point.

Loads of ways! Very difficult, difficult ways.
Agreed lots of variations. However as has already been pointed, all of these variations still mean England are fifth.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:05 pm
by Begbie
Matt Fagerson is out. Haining to start and Batman called up to the bench.

https://www.scottishrugby.org/news/scot ... rance-2021

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:17 pm
by Tichtheid
Begbie wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:05 pm Matt Fagerson is out. Haining to start and Batman called up to the bench.

https://www.scottishrugby.org/news/scot ... rance-2021

We should get to play a joker, once every three 6 Nations or so, get Bill Mata starting for this one.

As long as France don't get Kolbe.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:30 pm
by Biffer
Got to think that CdP would have been high on the list, but that limit of five English players again.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:25 pm
by Begbie
Biffer wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:30 pm Got to think that CdP would have been high on the list, but that limit of five English players again.
Toony said he would have been on the bench for the game that ended up being postponed.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:46 pm
by Yr Alban
Begbie wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:25 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:30 pm Got to think that CdP would have been high on the list, but that limit of five English players again.
Toony said he would have been on the bench for the game that ended up being postponed.
We are really getting shafted here. These arrangements are 100% to the benefit of France. We’re being set up to lose, the only question being whether we lose by enough to change the destination of the title.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:52 pm
by Slick
Yr Alban wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:46 pm
Begbie wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:25 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:30 pm Got to think that CdP would have been high on the list, but that limit of five English players again.
Toony said he would have been on the bench for the game that ended up being postponed.
We are really getting shafted here. These arrangements are 100% to the benefit of France. We’re being set up to lose, the only question being whether we lose by enough to change the destination of the title.
To be honest I don't think it's going to affect us all that much although I would have liked to see Maitland start. I do think it's pretty average that the 6N have negotiated just 5 players though, would it really matter to the integrity of the Premiership if it was 7 or 8, and that's all it would have been anyway. I could see putting maybe a 2 or 3 player limit per club but 7 or 8 spread over all 12 teams, get fucked.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:02 am
by Caley_Red
charltom wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:08 am
Caley_Red wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:04 am Not sure what to make of the team for Sunday, the changes were expected but I'm still disappointed to see them.
Don't wait til Sunday to watch it!
:lol:

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:13 am
by Begbie
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-un ... ud-3179215

Sounds like the boys are fairly angry. I like how Hogg has made it all about the squad though, and the boys missing out, rather than about the French being fuds. Publicly anyway, it's fairly clear he'd love to let rip, but as he says, doesn't want to create headlines. He's really growing in to the captaincy.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:25 am
by Tichtheid
Begbie wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:13 am https://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-un ... ud-3179215

Sounds like the boys are fairly angry. I like how Hogg has made it all about the squad though, and the boys missing out. Rather than about the French being fuds. Publicly anyway, it's fairly clear he'd love to let rip, but as he says, doesn't want to create headlines. He's really growing in to the captaincy.

He really is, I was all for making Ritchie captain and giving him a couple of years to get to the level required at the next world cup, but Hogg has, as you say, really stepped up.

It's also good to see Ritchie named as VC.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:03 pm
by Tichtheid
Edinburgh Rugby team to play Dragons at the Principality Stadium in the Guinness PRO14

Sunday 28 March (kick-off 2pm) – live on Premier Sports



15. Blair Kinghorn (96), 14. Jack Blain (11), 13. Mark Bennett (51), 12. Chris Dean (105), 11. Eroni Sau (21), 10. Jaco van der Walt (69), 9. Henry Pyrgos CO CAPTAIN (47)

1. Murray McCallum (61), 2. Sam Kitchen (1), 3. Lee-Roy Atalifo (7), 4. Marshall Sykes (2), 5. Jamie Hodgson (18), 6. Magnus Bradbury CO CAPTAIN (93), 7. Luke Crosbie (52), 8. Mesu Kunavula (6)

Substitutes:
16. Patrick Harrison (0), 17. Shaun Gunn (0), 18. Angus Williams (2), 19. Andries Ferreira (8), 20. Connor Boyle (3), 21. Charlie Shiel (30),
22. Matt Currie (1), 23. George Taylor (31)


Unavailable on Scotland duty (10): Simon Berghan, David Cherry, Grant Gilchrist, Darcy Graham, Nick Haining, Willem Nel, Jamie Ritchie, Rory Sutherland, Duhan van der Merwe, Hamish Watson.

Unavailable through injury (17): Lewis Carmichael, Nathan Chamberlain, Andrew Davidson, Dan Gamble, Sam Grahamslaw, Damien Hoyland, Charlie Jupp, Stuart McInally, Viliame Mata, Fraser McKenzie, Dan Nutton, Harry Paterson, Charlie Savala, Pierre Schoeman, Ben Toolis, Boan Venter, Mike Willemse.



Just the 27 players unavailable this week.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:44 pm
by Big D
Begbie wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:13 am https://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-un ... ud-3179215

Sounds like the boys are fairly angry. I like how Hogg has made it all about the squad though, and the boys missing out, rather than about the French being fuds. Publicly anyway, it's fairly clear he'd love to let rip, but as he says, doesn't want to create headlines. He's really growing in to the captaincy.
Ever since he started as captain he has lead the team really well. He went through a rough patch in his form but his leadership is good. I really like his style of captaincy and for many reasons I think he is our best captain in the last number of years. Perhaps back to Jason White.

I am still on the Hogg for Lions captain bandwagon, I don't expect him to get it but he should captain some games and it will be on merit IMO.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:46 pm
by robmatic
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:03 pm
Just the 27 players unavailable this week.
Realistically we had no chance of Champions Cup qualification with these games in hand.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:50 pm
by Slick
robmatic wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:46 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:03 pm
Just the 27 players unavailable this week.
Realistically we had no chance of Champions Cup qualification with these games in hand.
This is of course another knock on effect of the French COVID idiocy that we are paying for

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:02 pm
by And 1 guest
Fuck points difference, bonus points and all that shit. I would love a Scottish win tonight.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:36 pm
by Jock42
And 1 guest wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:02 pm Fuck points difference, bonus points and all that shit. I would love a Scottish win tonight.
Absolutely the win is priority however I'll be very chuffed with an 8 point win and 2nd place.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:13 pm
by Caley_Red
Anyone got a streaming link for France game?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:51 pm
by Slick
I’m getting quite frustrated with Barnes here but we are being a bit daft as well.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:52 pm
by Jock42
Slick wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:51 pm I’m getting quite frustrated with Barnes here but we are being a bit daft as well.
SSDD

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:56 pm
by Tattie
Slick wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:51 pm I’m getting quite frustrated with Barnes here but we are being a bit daft as well.
Yeah maybe blue tinted glasses but I think we’re getting the shitty end of the stick. That scrum where we destroyed them - reset, french put in, should have been a penalty to us in front of the posts IMO. Also blatant forward pass, possibly two in the lead up to Hogg’s card.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:00 pm
by Slick
Tattie wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:56 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:51 pm I’m getting quite frustrated with Barnes here but we are being a bit daft as well.
Yeah maybe blue tinted glasses but I think we’re getting the shitty end of the stick. That scrum where we destroyed them - reset, french put in, should have been a penalty to us in front of the posts IMO. Also blatant forward pass, possibly two in the lead up to Hogg’s card.
Yeah, exactly the two main points I’m talking about

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:06 pm
by Slick
Harris having a stormer

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:11 pm
by Slick
Hate to say it, but we are missing half backs

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:12 pm
by Begbie
Ali "brains" Price showing his quality again. Useless fud.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:47 pm
by Yr Alban
There is zero chance that that is a red card. Barnes couldn’t wait to give it, either.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:49 pm
by Blackmac
Yr Alban wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:47 pm There is zero chance that that is a red card. Barnes couldn’t wait to give it, either.
He has been riding us all along, always does.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:02 pm
by Jockaline
A good 6n for Scotland, two long standing monkeys off our back, and two close defeats . One of which if a penalty had be rightly awarded at the death would have been another win.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:02 pm
by Slick
Yeeeeeereeeereaaaaaaaassssseee!!!!!!!

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:02 pm
by bessantj
Well done your lads!

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:07 pm
by charltom
Jockaline wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:02 pm A good 6n for Scotland, two long standing monkeys off our back, and two close defeats . One of which if a penalty had be rightly awarded at the death would have been another win.
... would have been the 6N title.

These guys are in a good place.

Great way to teach France a lesson so soon after international waffle day.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:07 pm
by Begbie
Fuckin yaaaaaaaasssss lads. Unbelievable.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:08 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Lovely 😊

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:09 pm
by Slick
I’m fucking loving this

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:09 pm
by Tattie
Brilliant but slightly disappointed as we should have won the title and possibly even the grand slam.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:11 pm
by Jock42
Fucking take that!!! Well in lads

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:14 pm
by Begbie
Tattie wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:09 pm Brilliant but slightly disappointed as we should have won the title and possibly even the grand slam.
I'd have bitten your arm off for wins at Twickenham and Paris, two very narrow losses and a thumping of Italy before the tournament started.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:14 pm
by Hong Kong
England and France in the one tournament? Result.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:15 pm
by Yr Alban
I will take that. Oh yes, I will take that. Thank you so very much.

Maybe we were a bad penalty call away from the title, but sod it. This has to rank as a good 6N now.

Given we had to play with a handicap because France broke the Covid rules, and then they took the piss about it, I’m very happy to hand the title to Wales. Karmic debt paid for 1999.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:17 pm
by Blackmac
What am I missing when Watson is not talked about as a nailed on Lions starter. No one offers the complete game he does.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:17 pm
by And 1 guest
Ya beauty