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Lobby wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:54 am

dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:15 am

Sinkers wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:30 am What do we think of the young poet?

Not that I’m a poetry sort, but always nice to see youth and talent like that I thought

She was brilliant! Poem was spot on and delivery was fantastic ... and she is only 22. Top of best sellers list overnight.

Agreed, she was wonderful, and so assured and confident at that age.

I haven't seen it, I feel like I am missing out on something pivotal?

sturginho wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:06 am

Lobby wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:54 am

dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:15 am

She was brilliant! Poem was spot on and delivery was fantastic ... and she is only 22. Top of best sellers list overnight.

Agreed, she was wonderful, and so assured and confident at that age.

I haven't seen it, I feel like I am missing out on something pivotal?

For me it was the juxtaposition of an intelligent, self confident, black, small 22 year old girl reciting a wonderful self penned poem at exactly the same spot that we had stupid, thick, brainwashed, white, pot bellied 50+ year old racist men chanting inane slogans copied from QANON websites waving their 'penis envy' assault rifles in the air. Whereas 1,000s of them couldn't demolish the pillars of US democracy with guns and weapons a small black girl destroyed them and what they stand for using only words. Wonderful.

dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:15 am

sturginho wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:06 am

Lobby wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:54 am

Agreed, she was wonderful, and so assured and confident at that age.

I haven't seen it, I feel like I am missing out on something pivotal?

For me it was the juxtaposition of an intelligent, self confident, black, small 22 year old girl reciting a wonderful self penned poem at exactly the same spot that we had stupid, thick, brainwashed, white, pot bellied 50+ year old racist men chanting inane slogans copied from QANON websites waving their 'penis envy' assault rifles in the air. Whereas 1,000s of them couldn't demolish the pillars of US democracy with guns and weapons a small black girl destroyed them and what they stand for using only words. Wonderful.

Just seen it now, very powerful stuff

It highlighted everything the Trump administration wasn't. Coherent, intelligent, eloquent, all-embracing, non-divisive and optimistic.

Wignu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:49 am It highlighted everything the Trump administration wasn't. Coherent, intelligent, eloquent, all-embracing, non-divisive and optimistic.

and black.

Wignu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:49 am It highlighted everything the Trump administration wasn't. Coherent, intelligent, eloquent, all-embracing, non-divisive and optimistic.

Until the next debate in the House anyway.

sturginho wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:23 am

dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:15 am

sturginho wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:06 am

I haven't seen it, I feel like I am missing out on something pivotal?

For me it was the juxtaposition of an intelligent, self confident, black, small 22 year old girl reciting a wonderful self penned poem at exactly the same spot that we had stupid, thick, brainwashed, white, pot bellied 50+ year old racist men chanting inane slogans copied from QANON websites waving their 'penis envy' assault rifles in the air. Whereas 1,000s of them couldn't demolish the pillars of US democracy with guns and weapons a small black girl destroyed them and what they stand for using only words. Wonderful.

Just seen it now, very powerful stuff

I watched the inauguration for hours but missed the poem - tbh, the whole thing was incredibly dull and, eventually, I gave up on it. Glad the poetry went down well even though I have little time for such stuff.

I did think Amy Klobuchar was very good. Things brightened up every time she took the stage.

So will we get this much obsessive following of the next CCP Congress?

This much slavish following of US politics is a bit weird.

Glaston wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:39 pm So will we get this much obsessive following of the next CCP Congress?

This much slavish following of US politics is a bit weird.

Doubt it. The last four years have been the equivalent of passers by rubber necking at a car wreck, Biden's administration shouldn't provide quite the same circus to stare at with morbid fascination and disbelief.

dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:15 am

sturginho wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:06 am

Lobby wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:54 am

Agreed, she was wonderful, and so assured and confident at that age.

I haven't seen it, I feel like I am missing out on something pivotal?

For me it was the juxtaposition of an intelligent, self confident, black, small 22 year old girl reciting a wonderful self penned poem at exactly the same spot that we had stupid, thick, brainwashed, white, pot bellied 50+ year old racist men chanting inane slogans copied from QANON websites waving their 'penis envy' assault rifles in the air. Whereas 1,000s of them couldn't demolish the pillars of US democracy with guns and weapons a small black girl destroyed them and what they stand for using only words. Wonderful.

Powerful poem and truly amazing performance of it. I bet she was absolutely buzzing after that - nailed it.

Let’s hope it’s a sign of a return of intellect to American discourse. We’ve really missed it on the world stage as they increasingly became a laughing stock

Onwards and upwards.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:06 pm

Glaston wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:39 pm So will we get this much obsessive following of the next CCP Congress?

This much slavish following of US politics is a bit weird.

Doubt it. The last four years have been the equivalent of passers by rubber necking at a car wreck, Biden's administration shouldn't provide quite the same circus to stare at with morbid fascination and disbelief.

Indeed - it feels like even the press corp are looking forward to some meat and potatoes rather than the sugar fuelled dessert they’ve been served over the last 4 years.

Random1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:10 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:06 pm

Glaston wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:39 pm So will we get this much obsessive following of the next CCP Congress?

This much slavish following of US politics is a bit weird.

Doubt it. The last four years have been the equivalent of passers by rubber necking at a car wreck, Biden's administration shouldn't provide quite the same circus to stare at with morbid fascination and disbelief.

Indeed - it feels like even the press corp are looking forward to some meat and potatoes rather than the sugar fuelled dessert they’ve been served over the last 4 years.

The Whitehouse corp in particular were, to stretch the metaphor, periodically locked out of the dining hall for daring to ask for some vegetables instead of another chocolate fudge sundae and will probably appreciate steady access to more staid fare.

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:50 am

Wignu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:49 am It highlighted everything the Trump administration wasn't. Coherent, intelligent, eloquent, all-embracing, non-divisive and optimistic.

and black.

Ben Carson would like a word.....after his nap

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:33 pm Worth watching James Corden's.....

Chrysoprase wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:55 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:33 pm Worth watching James Corden's.....

I'm not his biggest fan by any means, but it was a very good piece

Saint wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:28 pm I'm not his biggest fan by any means, but it was a very good piece

I'm not being particularly serious

I was procrastinating

Chrysoprase wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:36 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:28 pm I'm not his biggest fan by any means, but it was a very good piece

I'm not being particularly serious

I was procrastinating

The whole purpose of the board

Random1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:07 pm

dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:15 am

sturginho wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:06 am

I haven't seen it, I feel like I am missing out on something pivotal?

For me it was the juxtaposition of an intelligent, self confident, black, small 22 year old girl reciting a wonderful self penned poem at exactly the same spot that we had stupid, thick, brainwashed, white, pot bellied 50+ year old racist men chanting inane slogans copied from QANON websites waving their 'penis envy' assault rifles in the air. Whereas 1,000s of them couldn't demolish the pillars of US democracy with guns and weapons a small black girl destroyed them and what they stand for using only words. Wonderful.

Powerful poem and truly amazing performance of it. I bet she was absolutely buzzing after that - nailed it.

Let’s hope it’s a sign of a return of intellect to American discourse. We’ve really missed it on the world stage as they increasingly became a laughing stock

Onwards and upwards.

Ted Cruz: "Hold my beer".

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am

That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am

That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.

Upper class Eton educated privileged middle aged white man is a racist. Shockeroonie.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am

That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.

I'm not sure why IH has resurrected this speculative story from last November. As I recall there was a lot of similar speculation that Johnson would be snubbed by Biden in the immediate aftermath of the election, but this all went quiet when Johnson was one of the first world leaders called by Biden.

Johnson may be a bumbling idiot, but Biden has already shown that even if he dislikes Johnson personally, this shouldn't affect relations between the US and the UK. Biden's first international visit as President will reportedly be to the UK.

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:04 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am

That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.

I'm not sure why IH has resurrected this speculative story from last November. As I recall there was a lot of similar speculation that Johnson would be snubbed by Biden in the immediate aftermath of the election, but this all went quiet when Johnson was one of the first world leaders called by Biden.

Johnson may be a bumbling idiot, but Biden has already shown that even if he dislikes Johnson personally, this shouldn't affect relations between the US and the UK. Biden's first international visit as President will reportedly be to the UK.

I recently re-watched a documentary about the Windscale Fire; & how it happened at a very inconvenient time, because the UK was desperate to get the co-operation of the US in developing their Nuclear weapons. The US Congress had, right after the war; passed legislation to make it a Capital offence to share information on nuclear matters with any Non-US National.

What it all came down to was the close personal relationship between Macmillan, & Ike. Nothing to do with the, "Special Relationship", but instead down to the fact that the two were friends, & the access was basically arranged, between the two friends, over a weekend in Chequers.

People aren't robots; & Governments are composed of people, & their relationships, & their prejudices.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:29 pm

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:04 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 am

That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.

I'm not sure why IH has resurrected this speculative story from last November. As I recall there was a lot of similar speculation that Johnson would be snubbed by Biden in the immediate aftermath of the election, but this all went quiet when Johnson was one of the first world leaders called by Biden.

Johnson may be a bumbling idiot, but Biden has already shown that even if he dislikes Johnson personally, this shouldn't affect relations between the US and the UK. Biden's first international visit as President will reportedly be to the UK.

I recently re-watched a documentary about the Windscale Fire; & how it happened at a very inconvenient time, because the UK was desperate to get the co-operation of the US in developing their Nuclear weapons. The US Congress had, right after the war; passed legislation to make it a Capital offence to share information on nuclear matters with any Non-US National.

What it all came down to was the close personal relationship between Macmillan, & Ike. Nothing to do with the, "Special Relationship", but instead down to the fact that the two were friends, & the access was basically arranged, between the two friends, over a weekend in Chequers.

People aren't robots; & Governments are composed of people, & their relationships, & their prejudices.

Ike, having commanded British troops and being well aware of the British war effort, was also well aware of how shabby shutting us out of a project we'd started and contributed to in good faith was. Macmillan reminded him not so subtly on this point as well.

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:04 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am

That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.

I'm not sure why IH has resurrected this speculative story from last November. As I recall there was a lot of similar speculation that Johnson would be snubbed by Biden in the immediate aftermath of the election, but this all went quiet when Johnson was one of the first world leaders called by Biden.

Johnson may be a bumbling idiot, but Biden has already shown that even if he dislikes Johnson personally, this shouldn't affect relations between the US and the UK. Biden's first international visit as President will reportedly be to the UK.

Well yeah, because that's where the G7 summit is being held. Bit disingenuous!

I wonder what was in Trump's letter to Biden - I'll be back?

GogLais wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:20 pm I wonder what was in Trump's letter to Biden - I'll be back?

You have won the lottery. Please send a cheque for £500m to this address to release your funds.

Yours covfete,
Prince Trumpdela
CEO Lottery Enterprises Ltd

GogLais wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:20 pm I wonder what was in Trump's letter to Biden - I'll be back?

“Dear Sleepy Joe,

Please can I have pardon?

Pick one: Yes No

PS: I won by lots, you know it”

and only a matter of days after installing metal detectors at the entrance to the chambers; they caught their first fuckwit.

He should be suspended immediately; & face a hearing from whatever committee is responsible for disciplining these cretins.

Oh; & he should immediately have his gun licenses revoked, & all his guns seized until he proves he understands that he can't just hand a loaded firearm to a random friend to hold, while he goes thru a metal detector.

US Capitol Police are investigating an incident in which a Republican lawmaker was stopped from bringing a concealed gun onto the House floor on Thursday, sources told CNN, the first time a member of Congress has been discovered with a firearm by the metal detectors now set up outside the legislative chamber.

Rep. Andy Harris, of Maryland, set off a metal detector outside the House floor on Thursday and an officer soon discovered it was because he was carrying a concealed gun on his side, a Capitol official told CNN. The officer sent Harris away, prompting him to ask fellow Republican Rep. John Katko, of New York, to hold his weapon.

According to a press pool report, Katko refused to hold the gun for Harris, saying that he did not have a license. Harris then left the area and returned moments later, walking onto the House floor without setting off the magnetometer.

The Capitol official confirmed to CNN that Harris did not enter the House floor with a weapon. Harris' office did not immediately return a request for comment.

^
House members are allowed to carry firearms on Capitol grounds, but not onto the House floor.

He’s a total dick anyway, he’s Maryland Eastern shore representative ( red counties), last week he almost got in a fight on the floor with a Democrat

His chief of staff issued a statement .
“Because his and his family’s lives have been threatened by someone who has been released awaiting trial, for security reasons, the congressman never confirms whether he nor anyone else he’s with are carrying a firearm for self-defense,'' the statement said. "As a matter of public record, he has a Maryland Handgun Permit. And the congressman always complies with the House metal detectors and wanding. The Congressman has never carried a firearm on the House floor.''

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:14 pm ^
House members are allowed to carry firearms on Capitol grounds, but not onto the House floor.

He’s a total dick anyway, he’s Maryland Eastern shore representative ( red counties), last week he almost got in a fight on the floor with a Democrat

His chief of staff issued a statement .
“Because his and his family’s lives have been threatened by someone who has been released awaiting trial, for security reasons, the congressman never confirms whether he nor anyone else he’s with are carrying a firearm for self-defense,'' the statement said. "As a matter of public record, he has a Maryland Handgun Permit. And the congressman always complies with the House metal detectors and wanding. The Congressman has never carried a firearm on the House floor.''

he got caught this time by the metal detector, newly-installed after the insurrection of 6 January, but you have to wonder how many times he has wandered into the chamber with his gun before this.

Every time I hear a gun story like this from the US, I think of 30 Rock:

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/2f00ed41-b ... 236198e4e7

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:15 am

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:14 pm ^
House members are allowed to carry firearms on Capitol grounds, but not onto the House floor.

He’s a total dick anyway, he’s Maryland Eastern shore representative ( red counties), last week he almost got in a fight on the floor with a Democrat

His chief of staff issued a statement .
“Because his and his family’s lives have been threatened by someone who has been released awaiting trial, for security reasons, the congressman never confirms whether he nor anyone else he’s with are carrying a firearm for self-defense,'' the statement said. "As a matter of public record, he has a Maryland Handgun Permit. And the congressman always complies with the House metal detectors and wanding. The Congressman has never carried a firearm on the House floor.''

he got caught this time by the metal detector, newly-installed after the insurrection of 6 January, but you have to wonder how many times he has wandered into the chamber with his gun before this.

Exactly !

The problem with honor systems; is that there are far too many people who possess none !

Always thought politicians were a bunch of schoolkids. Now they have to walk through metal detectors, that just confirms it.

The good news is that the GOP is eating itself; & shows signs, it will continue to do so until the orange cunt finally snuffs it.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:49 pm The good news is that the GOP is eating itself; & shows signs, it will continue to do so until the orange cunt finally snuffs it.

We're post Trump now, the fascist scum wing of the GOP are off the chain and are shifting the whole party to the extreme right (which in turn causes the centre to shift as the Democrats chase popular vote issues).

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:26 pm

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:04 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 am

That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.

I'm not sure why IH has resurrected this speculative story from last November. As I recall there was a lot of similar speculation that Johnson would be snubbed by Biden in the immediate aftermath of the election, but this all went quiet when Johnson was one of the first world leaders called by Biden.

Johnson may be a bumbling idiot, but Biden has already shown that even if he dislikes Johnson personally, this shouldn't affect relations between the US and the UK. Biden's first international visit as President will reportedly be to the UK.

Well yeah, because that's where the G7 summit is being held. Bit disingenuous!

It isn’t till June. Obama and Bush both went on their first foreign trip in February. Even in the current circumstances Biden could make a trip abroad if he wanted to, surprised he isn’t.

ohno wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:03 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:26 pm

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:04 pm

I'm not sure why IH has resurrected this speculative story from last November. As I recall there was a lot of similar speculation that Johnson would be snubbed by Biden in the immediate aftermath of the election, but this all went quiet when Johnson was one of the first world leaders called by Biden.

Johnson may be a bumbling idiot, but Biden has already shown that even if he dislikes Johnson personally, this shouldn't affect relations between the US and the UK. Biden's first international visit as President will reportedly be to the UK.

Well yeah, because that's where the G7 summit is being held. Bit disingenuous!

It isn’t till June. Obama and Bush both went on their first foreign trip in February. Even in the current circumstances Biden could make a trip abroad if he wanted to, surprised he isn’t.

Think it's pretty reasonable to say there's home priorities atm.

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:30 pm

ohno wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:03 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:26 pm

Well yeah, because that's where the G7 summit is being held. Bit disingenuous!

It isn’t till June. Obama and Bush both went on their first foreign trip in February. Even in the current circumstances Biden could make a trip abroad if he wanted to, surprised he isn’t.

Think it's pretty reasonable to say there's home priorities atm.

Plus who would want a Presidential visit just now, with all the hangers-on, security and media? And why would they want to visit a locked down city anywhere?

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:25 pm Always thought politicians were a bunch of schoolkids. Now they have to walk through metal detectors, that just confirms it.

That, or sociopaths. Either way, they shouldn't be walking around with guns!