NPR

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:20 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:11 pm We'll just ignore the no arms tackle by 21 then

Fuck it must be frustrating try to figure out mistakes from the ref.

Check the scoreboard and stay frustrated.

_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:27 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 4:53 pm Jaden Hendricks is as bad as Hershelle Jantjes.

Hendrikse is really good, but his decision making isn't consistently top quality yet, only 22 years old could develop into a really excellent player could also not. Entirely depends on his mindset, if he's windgat at all he won't maximize his potential.

Emotional win given the flooding disaster. I reckon this Sharks side needs another season though, and maybe some signings too, shouldn't have been that close.

Blake wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:36 pm

_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:27 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 4:53 pm Jaden Hendricks is as bad as Hershelle Jantjes.

Hendrikse is really good, but his decision making isn't consistently top quality yet, only 22 years old could develop into a really excellent player could also not. Entirely depends on his mindset, if he's windgat at all he won't maximize his potential.

Emotional win given the flooding disaster. I reckon this Sharks side needs another season though, and maybe some signings too, shouldn't have been that close.

Everything I’ve seen of him seems to indicate that that is indeed the case. He seems like a bit of a poes, and more so than an average scrumhalf is supposed to be.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:47 pm Paul Roos vs Bishops had less kicking then our top level rugby.

To much scrumhalf force to kick in rugby these days. .

Leinster is a well coached team and try to play ball in hand. That's the difference to other teams.

Even this B or C team play with confidence.

Big win for the Sharks.

Looking forward to next week game between the Stormers and Leinster.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:18 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:47 pm Paul Roos vs Bishops had less kicking then our top level rugby.

To much scrumhalf force to kick in rugby these days. .

Leinster is a well coached team and try to play ball in hand. That's the difference to other teams.

Even this B or C team play with confidence.

Big win for the Sharks.

Looking forward to next week game between the Stormers and Leinster.

The guys on comms last night made a good point about Leinster being entitled to be a bit pissed about the URC announcing that the leaders at the end of the season would get the home draw .... but only after Leinster had picked their squad & headed South.

They might have only made 3-4 changes, but that might have been enough this evening. The kids did well enough tonight, but they needed more beef in the lineup.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:22 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:18 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:47 pm Paul Roos vs Bishops had less kicking then our top level rugby.

To much scrumhalf force to kick in rugby these days. .

Leinster is a well coached team and try to play ball in hand. That's the difference to other teams.

Even this B or C team play with confidence.

Big win for the Sharks.

Looking forward to next week game between the Stormers and Leinster.

The guys on comms last night made a good point about Leinster being entitled to be a bit pissed about the URC announcing that the leaders at the end of the season would get the home draw .... but only after Leinster had picked their squad & headed South.

They might have only made 3-4 changes, but that might have been enough this evening. The kids did well enough tonight, but they needed more beef in the lineup.

How many of tonight's 23 would be in the squad for a final, if everyone was fit?

Porter and Ruddock?

Genuine question as I'm a bit of of touch with Leinster this season.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:56 pm

ia801310 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:54 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:53 pm He was definitely in touch ffs

What are they looking at,?

the foot wrapped in the bandage touched the ground over the line

This 100%, although a scrum is probably better for Leinster.

I'm glad I'm not the only one whose confused how they missed it

_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:43 pm

Blake wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:36 pm

_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:27 pm
Hendrikse is really good, but his decision making isn't consistently top quality yet, only 22 years old could develop into a really excellent player could also not. Entirely depends on his mindset, if he's windgat at all he won't maximize his potential.

Emotional win given the flooding disaster. I reckon this Sharks side needs another season though, and maybe some signings too, shouldn't have been that close.

Everything I’ve seen of him seems to indicate that that is indeed the case. He seems like a bit of a poes, and more so than an average scrumhalf is supposed to be.

He's lost it a few times, he can't keep doing that if he wants a master a technical position like 9. Thought he was okay today.

Leinster: Cosgrave; T O'Brien, Osborne, Frawley, O'Loughlin; H Byrne, McCarthy; Porter, McKee, Clarkson, Deeny, Dunne; Ruddock (capt), Penny, Deegan.

Replacements: Barron, Dooley, Ala'alatoa, Murphy, Soroka, Foley, Hawkshaw, Molony.

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:56 am

_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:43 pm

Blake wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:36 pm

Everything I’ve seen of him seems to indicate that that is indeed the case. He seems like a bit of a poes, and more so than an average scrumhalf is supposed to be.

He's lost it a few times, he can't keep doing that if he wants a master a technical position like 9. Thought he was okay today.

I'd like to see Fourie du Preez running a scrumhalf camp or master class for our 9s. You hit the nail on the had about technical mastery. Our guys are behind the NH guys when it comes to basic skills. Lots of x-factor but only Morne van der Berg is playing with the level of accuracy and consistency required for the position. Hendrikse is in year 3 with the Sharks and Jantjes in his 6 year with WP and they both lack the control and distribution they should have by now.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:13 am This

Leinster: Cosgrave; T O'Brien, Osborne, Frawley, O'Loughlin; H Byrne, McCarthy; Porter, McKee, Clarkson, Deeny, Dunne; Ruddock (capt), Penny, Deegan.

Replacements: Barron, Dooley, Ala'alatoa, Murphy, Soroka, Foley, Hawkshaw, Molony.

is just more proof of what has been said for years i.e. the Irish sides get to play 2nd string sides much of the time which means they come into Europe fresh and with fewer injuries.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:01 am

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:13 am This

Leinster: Cosgrave; T O'Brien, Osborne, Frawley, O'Loughlin; H Byrne, McCarthy; Porter, McKee, Clarkson, Deeny, Dunne; Ruddock (capt), Penny, Deegan.

Replacements: Barron, Dooley, Ala'alatoa, Murphy, Soroka, Foley, Hawkshaw, Molony.

is just more proof of what has been said for years i.e. the Irish sides get to play 2nd string sides much of the time which means they come into Europe fresh and with fewer injuries.

Why do the French teams don't do the same?

GrahamWa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:06 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:01 am

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:13 am This

is just more proof of what has been said for years i.e. the Irish sides get to play 2nd string sides much of the time which means they come into Europe fresh and with fewer injuries.

Why do the French teams don't do the same?

Torque will know better but I'm sure the French send 2nd strings to away games because the home game win is still paramount. I don't see a difference.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:37 am

GrahamWa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:06 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:01 am
Why do the French teams don't do the same?

Torque will know better but I'm sure the French send 2nd strings to away games because the home game win is still paramount. I don't see a difference.

Some truth in that but it comes down to
1) Much longer season. That is absolutely the fault of France's own system.
2) The intensity of the competition. There are no easy games in France.
3) Relegation.

For the record, I am not blaming the Irish sides for the position: just pointing out what a benefit advantage it is for them.

GrahamWa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:07 am There looks to be bigger crowds at the games this weekend. Is there a reliable site for attendance numbers in SA?

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:47 am

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:37 am

GrahamWa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:06 am

Torque will know better but I'm sure the French send 2nd strings to away games because the home game win is still paramount. I don't see a difference.

Some truth in that but it comes down to
1) Much longer season. That is absolutely the fault of France's own system.
2) The intensity of the competition. There are no easy games in France.
3) Relegation.

For the record, I am not blaming the Irish sides for the position: just pointing out what a benefit advantage it is for them.

The central contracting, means the IRFU get to call the shots on the International players, & because we've only 4 teams, versus 14 in France, there's always going to be these players rested after the 6N, & Autumn Internationals.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:47 am

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:37 am

GrahamWa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:06 am

Torque will know better but I'm sure the French send 2nd strings to away games because the home game win is still paramount. I don't see a difference.

Some truth in that but it comes down to
1) Much longer season. That is absolutely the fault of France's own system.
2) The intensity of the competition. There are no easy games in France.
3) Relegation.

For the record, I am not blaming the Irish sides for the position: just pointing out what a benefit advantage it is for them.

The central contracting, means the IRFU get to call the shots on the International players, & because we've only 4 teams, versus 14 in France, there's always going to be these players rested after the 6N, & Autumn Internationals.

weegie01 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:45 pm Second to eighth on the table all within 4 points. With two rounds to go it is tight and competitive within that group.

assfly wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:31 pm

GrahamWa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:07 am There looks to be bigger crowds at the games this weekend. Is there a reliable site for attendance numbers in SA?

The Sharks finally pulled their finger out and put on a music concert, food market, etc. to get the crowds in and it worked.

PCPhil wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:49 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:43 pm

PCPhil wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:39 pm Are Leinster playing their strongest team tomorrow?

Nope. Bs & Cs, but a decent team all the same.

In general this sh1t needs to be sorted out. Surely this is the top club competition for them. Shouldn’t be like a Liverpool team for the 4th round of the FA cup.

Stormers: 15 Warrick Gelant, 14 Seabelo Senatla, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Damian Willemse, 11 Leolin Zas, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Evan Roos, 7 Hacjivah Dayimani, 6 Deon Fourie, 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Adre Smith, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 JJ Kotze, 1 Steven Kitshoff (captain).
Replacements: 16 Wilmar Arnoldi, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Neethling Fouche, 19 Salmaan Moerat, 20 Junior Pokomela, 21 Ben-Jason Dixon, 22 Paul de Wet, 23 Juan de Jongh.

Chilli wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:33 am

Stormers: 15 Warrick Gelant, 14 Seabelo Senatla, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Damian Willemse, 11 Leolin Zas, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Evan Roos, 7 Hacjivah Dayimani, 6 Deon Fourie, 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Adre Smith, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 JJ Kotze, 1 Steven Kitshoff (captain).
Replacements: 16 Wilmar Arnoldi, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Neethling Fouche, 19 Salmaan Moerat, 20 Junior Pokomela, 21 Ben-Jason Dixon, 22 Paul de Wet, 23 Juan de Jongh.

Herschel Junkies is so shit

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:35 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:33 am

Stormers: 15 Warrick Gelant, 14 Seabelo Senatla, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Damian Willemse, 11 Leolin Zas, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Evan Roos, 7 Hacjivah Dayimani, 6 Deon Fourie, 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Adre Smith, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 JJ Kotze, 1 Steven Kitshoff (captain).
Replacements: 16 Wilmar Arnoldi, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Neethling Fouche, 19 Salmaan Moerat, 20 Junior Pokomela, 21 Ben-Jason Dixon, 22 Paul de Wet, 23 Juan de Jongh.

Herschel Junkies is so shit

That's the best match 23 the Stormers had all season.

.OverThere wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:36 am

PCPhil wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:49 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:43 pm

Nope. Bs & Cs, but a decent team all the same.

In general this sh1t needs to be sorted out. Surely this is the top club competition for them. Shouldn’t be like a Liverpool team for the 4th round of the FA cup.

What on earth makes you think this is the top competition? It was created to develop players for the national teams, and to compete with the best in Europe. The top club competition for the Irish has always been the European Cup. Along the way we do well in the Celtic League, but developing players is still a prime focus.

Chilli wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:47 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:35 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:33 am

Herschel Junkies is so shit

That's the best match 23 the Stormers had all season.

Oh, they should win by 20 points, but it doesn't change the fact that he is playing crap.

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:01 pm

.OverThere wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:36 am

PCPhil wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:49 pm

In general this sh1t needs to be sorted out. Surely this is the top club competition for them. Shouldn’t be like a Liverpool team for the 4th round of the FA cup.

What on earth makes you think this is the top competition? It was created to develop players for the national teams, and to compete with the best in Europe. The top club competition for the Irish has always been the European Cup. Along the way we do well in the Celtic League, but developing players is still a prime focus.

Apart from the 100 years you were utter shite, but most Irish supporters like to think rugby only started a few years ago.

PornDog wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:56 am

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:01 pm

.OverThere wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:36 am

What on earth makes you think this is the top competition? It was created to develop players for the national teams, and to compete with the best in Europe. The top club competition for the Irish has always been the European Cup. Along the way we do well in the Celtic League, but developing players is still a prime focus.

Apart from the 100 years you were utter shite, but most Irish supporters like to think rugby only started a few years ago.

Don't you worry, some of us haven't forgotten - despite my best efforts

Bulls: 15 Canan Moodie, 14 James Verity-Amm, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Cornal Hendricks, 11 Madosh Tambwe, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Zak Burger, 8 Elrigh Louw, 7 Arno Botha, 6 Marcell Coetzee (captain), 5 Ruan Nortje, 4 Walt Steenkamp, 3 Mornay Smith, 2 Johan Grobbelaar, 1 Gerhard Steenekamp.
Replacements: 16 Jan-Hendrik Wessels, 17 Simphiwe Matanzima, 18 Dylan Smith, 19 Janko Swanepoel, 20 Cyle Brink, 21 Embrose Papier, 22 Chris Smith, 23 Harold Vorster.

Date: Friday, April 29
Venue: Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
Kick-off: 19.00 (18.00 UK & Ireland time; 17.00 GMT)
Referee: Nika Amashukeli (Georgia)
Assistant referees: AJ Jacobs (South Africa), Griffin Colby (South Africa)
TMO: Marius van der Westhuizen (South Africa)

Chilli wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:37 am

Bulls: 15 Canan Moodie, 14 James Verity-Amm, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Cornal Hendricks, 11 Madosh Tambwe, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Zak Burger, 8 Elrigh Louw, 7 Arno Botha, 6 Marcell Coetzee (captain), 5 Ruan Nortje, 4 Walt Steenkamp, 3 Mornay Smith, 2 Johan Grobbelaar, 1 Gerhard Steenekamp.
Replacements: 16 Jan-Hendrik Wessels, 17 Simphiwe Matanzima, 18 Dylan Smith, 19 Janko Swanepoel, 20 Cyle Brink, 21 Embrose Papier, 22 Chris Smith, 23 Harold Vorster.

Date: Friday, April 29
Venue: Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
Kick-off: 19.00 (18.00 UK & Ireland time; 17.00 GMT)
Referee: Nika Amashukeli (Georgia)
Assistant referees: AJ Jacobs (South Africa), Griffin Colby (South Africa)
TMO: Marius van der Westhuizen (South Africa)