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Right here we go. Am excited!
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Here's hoping it's a good game. Best of luck to the new caps.
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This is carnage !

19-0 after 7 mins
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24-0
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Ymx wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:15 am This is carnage !

19-0 after 7 mins
........and you didn't expect it?
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Don’t think anyone expect this run rate


31-0
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38-0 after 20 mins
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Gumboot wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:02 am My friend's wondering if anyone knows where to stream the Maori vs Samoa game? It isn't on any of the usual sites... apparently.

:sad:
My friend reckons this is quite a good link

https://www.viprow.me/new-zealand-vs-to ... e-stream-2
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Blimey Papalii is sensational
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Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:29 am
Gumboot wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:02 am My friend's wondering if anyone knows where to stream the Maori vs Samoa game? It isn't on any of the usual sites... apparently.

:sad:
My friend reckons this is quite a good link

https://www.viprow.me/new-zealand-vs-to ... e-stream-2
Cheers mate, but you may want to check the date of my post. :razz:
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Small technical observation, Tonga just kicked that penalty out on the full to end the half. Shouldn't it be a lineout now?

If the Tongan player had tapped the penalty to himself and then kicked it out on the full then no problem.
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Ymx wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:48 am Blimey Papalii is sensational
All three loosies are playing well.

Expecting lots of early subs and a ragged last quarter.
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55-0 after 48 mins.
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Gumboot wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:57 am
Ymx wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:48 am Blimey Papalii is sensational
All three loosies are playing well.

Expecting lots of early subs and a ragged last quarter.
It’s a good looking back row
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69-0

Heading for the tonne
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Jordan on his 4th try
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Gumboot wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:54 am
Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:29 am
Gumboot wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:02 am My friend's wondering if anyone knows where to stream the Maori vs Samoa game? It isn't on any of the usual sites... apparently.

:sad:
My friend reckons this is quite a good link

https://www.viprow.me/new-zealand-vs-to ... e-stream-2
Cheers mate, but you may want to check the date of my post. :razz:
:oops:
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Jordan gets his fifth
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Hit the tonne
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102-0
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Ymx wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:53 am102-0
Well I'm sure someone somewhere thought that was a useful exercise!!
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That'll do.

Commiserations to Tonga.

Jacobson my MoM
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Gumboot wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:56 am That'll do.

Commiserations to Tonga.

Jacobson my MoM
Did I hear right, the team was pretty ravaged by NH club threats on the players?
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Feeling a bit more confident now about our depth at prop and loose forward, and the in midfield. Tupaea had a very good debut.
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Ymx wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:02 am
Gumboot wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:56 am That'll do.

Commiserations to Tonga.

Jacobson my MoM
Did I hear right, the team was pretty ravaged by NH club threats on the players?
Should imagine the travel restrictions out of Europe and into NZ would have had a major effect?
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What did we learn about our team?

I guess with that level of blow out it’s hard to say much.

I missed patches but thought the Barrettless backline looked pretty bloody good.

Backrow was completely top notch.

Second row - excellent. And would be better with BBBR

Front row - not quite right.
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SaintK wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:19 am
Ymx wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:02 am
Gumboot wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:56 am That'll do.

Commiserations to Tonga.

Jacobson my MoM
Did I hear right, the team was pretty ravaged by NH club threats on the players?
Should imagine the travel restrictions out of Europe and into NZ would have had a major effect?
It was just something said in the commentary. Agents had told their players not to play.

Need to dig a little further. But they seemed pretty incensed about it.
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Nothing specific so far. But we should all be ashamed

OPINION: The finger-pointing will be swift but predictable as the international game wrestles with another sad evening for Pacific Islands rugby.

Seventeen years after the Pacific Islanders team pushed the All Blacks in Auckland - and their Tongan captain Inoke Afeaki pleaded for the game to build on that memorable performance - Tonga were demolished 102-0 at Mt Smart Stadium on Saturday.

It will be Covid’s fault, for depriving Tonga of European-based stars. It will be the fault of those dastardly northern hemisphere clubs, for preventing Tongan players from coming back to play. It will be New Zealand Rugby’s fault, for picking players such as Vaea Fifita and Shannon Frizell.

All Blacks debutant Quinn Tupaea carries through the traffic against Tonga on Saturday.
It will be World Rugby’s fault, for not letting players such as Ngani Laumape and Charles Piutau play for Tonga after their All Blacks’ career ends. And it will be Japan’s fault, for taking so many young Tongan players and converting them into Brave Blossoms.

But let’s all take a look in mirror. How easy we take the moral high ground when it suits us, when the reality is that Pacific Island talent has provided us all with moments of joy while playing for the teams we support. Admit it, the current inequality in the system quietly suits us.

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Not having a crack because I'd love to see PI teams do well. But surely this result and the Samoa result against MAB would suggest that a PI team in the TT Super competition would fare a lot worse than the Aussies. They're not going to have the budgets to lure any players back from Europe.
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From the CEO of Tongan Rugby

Ikale Tahi head coach Toutai Kefu said he hoped to have as many as 28 players available to play the All Blacks in Auckland on 3 July, but was not sure if the players in MIQ would be up to it, as some were only due to be released three days before the game at Mount Smart Stadium.

He said Covid-19 made it very tough to select the squad and it was disappointing that more than 20 mostly uncapped players turned them down.

Tonga Rugby Union chief executive Peter Harding said a number of those players were worried being capped by Tonga would risk affecting their club contracts, while some were discouraged from playing by their agents.
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The All Blacks look in great shape.

A tour to Tonga/Samoa will lift their rugby.

Suppose playing there will be much harder.
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Complete joke of a game, who got anything out of that? Basically a try stat boost for a few players. If Tonga got a decent wad of cash out of it fair enough, other than that...it was a pisstake
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There could be a real danger looking ahead for the All Blacks (and by extension world rugby) though you might not think so based on winning 102-0...

They don't have anyone credible to play against anymore.

South Africa have abandoned Super Rugby and Australian RU is losing more and more of its best juniors to the NRL every year.

I'm not sure what the solution is other than NZ continue to develop their intra-provincial competitions but how long is that sustainable without a decent and legitimate test level above it?
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:lol:

Night chaps, enjoy the much more competitive Lions v Lions later tonight...
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Sad result.
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boere wors wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:22 pm Sad result.
That's the best description by far. Totally not fair on Tonga.
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What changes for the starting backs next week we think?

Barrett’s starting?
Havili/Smith?
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I think Whitelock may be the only starter from last week to start this week.

I would like to see DMac with Beauden Barrett to see if that combination works as well as the one from last week.
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Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:29 am There could be a real danger looking ahead for the All Blacks (and by extension world rugby) though you might not think so based on winning 102-0...

They don't have anyone credible to play against anymore.

South Africa have abandoned Super Rugby and Australian RU is losing more and more of its best juniors to the NRL every year.

I'm not sure what the solution is other than NZ continue to develop their intra-provincial competitions but how long is that sustainable without a decent and legitimate test level above it?
Things are cyclical - if you'd have said to anyone in SANZAR 15 years ago or so Wales, Scotland and Ireland would all be exceptionally competitive and be arriving at the next RWC thinking they had a shot you'd have been laughed out of there. Doesn't take an awful lot for Australia to bounce back.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:13 am
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:29 am There could be a real danger looking ahead for the All Blacks (and by extension world rugby) though you might not think so based on winning 102-0...

They don't have anyone credible to play against anymore.

South Africa have abandoned Super Rugby and Australian RU is losing more and more of its best juniors to the NRL every year.

I'm not sure what the solution is other than NZ continue to develop their intra-provincial competitions but how long is that sustainable without a decent and legitimate test level above it?
Things are cyclical - if you'd have said to anyone in SANZAR 15 years ago or so Wales, Scotland and Ireland would all be exceptionally competitive and be arriving at the next RWC thinking they had a shot you'd have been laughed out of there. Doesn't take an awful lot for Australia to bounce back.
Also we should recognise that it was a COVID-affected Tonga, a side shorn of all their European players - so the vast majority of player they'd pick from
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