It’s such a sad thing that he has all these memories but not a single souvenir or picture left. One of life’s unlucky few where everything has been taken, lost, claimed in the great divorce.
Re: The 35 greatest debut albums of all time
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:28 pm
by Tichtheid
Good shouts for Rage Against The Machine (best gig I’ve ever been to - Glasgow Barrowlands when they toured that first album) also for the Pixies.
Personally I’d go for John Coltrane’s Blue Train ( it’s a debut of sorts) and Tom Waits’ Closing Time, two of my most-played records.
Plus The Fall, Live at The Witch Trials and Jon Spencer Blues Explosion (second best live band I’ve seen) Orange
Re: The 35 greatest debut albums of all time
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:25 am
by Mr Bungle
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:28 pm
Good shouts for Rage Against The Machine (best gig I’ve ever been to - Glasgow Barrowlands when they toured that first album) also for the Pixies.
Personally I’d go for John Coltrane’s Blue Train ( it’s a debut of sorts) and Tom Waits’ Closing Time, two of my most-played records.
Plus The Fall, Live at The Witch Trials and Jon Spencer Blues Explosion (second best live band I’ve seen) Orange
I’m not a huge fan of JSBE’s recorded work, don’t dislike it, but never really fully clicked. But I saw them play The House of Blues in Vegas in 2002, they were leather pant clad and fucking rocking. I could never recapture that sound by getting into their back catalog. Just had to see them live.
I booked them. Warner Bros were the promoters. I was given 6 discs. The rare bit was that the record itself had the cover colour etched on each disc.
Warners brought a whopping crew to film their performance.
I gave 5 discs to various peeps. Kept one for myself. Some blighter spotted it and nicked it from my home in Hilton.
Sonja was a stunner. Darryl Way had a glass violin.
Never heard of them.
Re: The 35 greatest debut albums of all time
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:39 am
by sockwithaticket
Any list without The Bronx's self titled is invalid.
Re: The 35 greatest debut albums of all time
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:26 am
by Globus
ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:38 pm
It’s such a sad thing that he has all these memories but not a single souvenir or picture left. One of life’s unlucky few where everything has been taken, lost, claimed in the great divorce.
Had a good life, SFC. Never been much of a collector but my brother is going to value my collection. The deal is that I'll leave them to him.
Many of my discs are signed. That bumps up their value.
ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:38 pm
It’s such a sad thing that he has all these memories but not a single souvenir or picture left. One of life’s unlucky few where everything has been taken, lost, claimed in the great divorce.
Had a good life, SFC. Never been much of a collector but my brother is going to value my collection. The deal is that I'll leave them to him.
Many of my discs are signed. That bumps up their value.
ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:38 pm
It’s such a sad thing that he has all these memories but not a single souvenir or picture left. One of life’s unlucky few where everything has been taken, lost, claimed in the great divorce.
Had a good life, SFC. Never been much of a collector but my brother is going to value my collection. The deal is that I'll leave them to him.
Many of my discs are signed. That bumps up their value.
Signed by you or the artist?
Re: The 35 greatest debut albums of all time
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:01 pm
by clydecloggie
yermum wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:53 am
no Surfer Rosa?
yermum wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:53 am
no Surfer Rosa?
shite list
Second album. Come on Pilgrim was the debut.
Depends how you define album. Surfer Rosa was their first full length album.
8 songs, 20 minutes versus 13 songs, 34 minutes. Could argue both ways. Meh. Don't know if the original vinyl was 12" and 33rpm - if so, it counts as an album for me. If not (10" 33rpm or 12" 45rpm), consider me chastised and defected to the Surfer Rosa camp.
Depends how you define album. Surfer Rosa was their first full length album.
8 songs, 20 minutes versus 13 songs, 34 minutes. Could argue both ways. Meh. Don't know if the original vinyl was 12" and 33rpm - if so, it counts as an album for me. If not (10" 33rpm or 12" 45rpm), consider me chastised and defected to the Surfer Rosa camp.
Ramones is under 30 minutes and is on the list.
I've just checked my copy, it is 33rpm. I'm definitely in the album camp.
Re: The 35 greatest debut albums of all time
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:18 pm
by Brazil
Pretty sure Come on Pilgrim was released as an EP at the time.
Re: The 35 greatest debut albums of all time
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:20 pm
by clydecloggie
Brazil wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:18 pm
Pretty sure Come on Pilgrim was released as an EP at the time.
5 different posters discussing whether or not Come on Pilgrim counts as an album goes a long way to explain what this nominal rugby forum is all about.
Brazil wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:18 pm
Pretty sure Come on Pilgrim was released as an EP at the time.
5 different posters discussing whether or not Come on Pilgrim counts as an album goes a long way to explain what this nominal rugby forum is all about.
Depends how you define album. Surfer Rosa was their first full length album.
8 songs, 20 minutes versus 13 songs, 34 minutes. Could argue both ways. Meh. Don't know if the original vinyl was 12" and 33rpm - if so, it counts as an album for me. If not (10" 33rpm or 12" 45rpm), consider me chastised and defected to the Surfer Rosa camp.
Ramones is under 30 minutes and is on the list.
I don't mind either way, but Come on Pilgrim seems to be referred to as a mini LP.
Come on Pilgrim (1987)
While the Pixies were playing a concert with Throwing Muses, they were noticed by producer Gary Smith, manager of Fort Apache Studios.[6] He told the band he "could not sleep until you guys are world famous".[14] The band produced a 17-track demo at Fort Apache soon afterwards, known to fans as the Purple Tape because of the tape cover's purple background. Funded by Francis' father at the cost of $1000, the recording session was completed in three days.[15] Local promoter Ken Goes became the band's manager, and he passed the demo to Ivo Watts-Russell of the independent record label 4AD.[2] Watts-Russell nearly passed on the band, finding them too normal, "too rock 'n' roll", but signed them at the persuasion of his girlfriend.[16]
Upon signing with 4AD, eight tracks from the Purple Tape were selected for the Come on Pilgrim mini-LP, the Pixies' first release.[6] Francis drew upon his experiences in Puerto Rico, mostly in the songs "Vamos" and "Isla de Encanta", describing the poverty in Puerto Rico and singing in loose Spanish.[14] The religious lyrics in Come on Pilgrim and later albums came from his parents' born-again Christian days in the Pentecostal Church.[14] Critic Heather Phares sees themes such as sexual frustration ("I've Been Tired") and incest ("Nimrod's Son" and "The Holiday Song") on the record.[17]
Surfer Rosa and Doolittle (1988–1989) Come on Pilgrim was followed by the Pixies' first full-length album, Surfer Rosa. The album was recorded by Steve Albini (who was hired by Watts-Russell on the advice of a 4AD colleague),[18] completed in two weeks, and released in early 1988.[14] Surfer Rosa gained the Pixies acclaim in Europe; both Melody Maker and Sounds gave Surfer Rosa their "Album of the Year" award. American critical response was also positive yet more muted, a reaction that persisted for much of the band's career.[19] The album was eventually certified Gold in the U.S. in 2005.[20] After the album was released, the band arrived in England to support Throwing Muses on the European "Sex and Death" tour—beginning at the Mean Fiddler in London.[21] The tour also took them to the Netherlands, where the Pixies had already received enough media attention to be headlining the tour. The tour became notable for the band's in-jokes, such as playing their entire set list in alphabetical order.[6]
Re: The 35 greatest debut albums of all time
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:38 am
by Flockwitt
Re: The 35 greatest debut albums of all time
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:28 am
by Thor Sedan
Even though most people didn't even know about Bleach until looking into Nirvana after discovering Nevermind - it is in many ways - a better example of Kurt Cobain's true song craft. And a definite shout out as one of the best debuts.
such an unlucky man, so many stories and literally nothing that hasn’t been lost to back them up.
