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Just gone for the friendly stash mod, I'll work it out when I actually play. Maybe not today.

Raggs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:13 pm Just gone for the friendly stash mod, I'll work it out when I actually play. Maybe not today.

That's the one.

Fairly straightforward to use.

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:15 pm

Raggs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:13 pm Just gone for the friendly stash mod, I'll work it out when I actually play. Maybe not today.

That's the one.

Fairly straightforward to use.

I'm mostly hoping the graphics one works, it was almost an 8gig download... I'll be peeved if I've cocked it up :D.

Raggs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:18 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:15 pm

Raggs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:13 pm Just gone for the friendly stash mod, I'll work it out when I actually play. Maybe not today.

That's the one.

Fairly straightforward to use.

I'm mostly hoping the graphics one works, it was almost an 8gig download... I'll be peeved if I've cocked it up :D.

Fingers crossed. I'm always a bit wary about big overhauls. The game is graphically nice as it is so I'm sure you're in for a treat.

So the stash mod doesn't seem to want to play, and I've pushed my graphics card too hard (computer always crashes when I go too hard), but had fun into the combat tutorial.

Out of interest, are there definite moments when dodging/parrying/rolling all have distinct advantages, or is it whichever you usually prefer?

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:01 pm Gamer dudes. My young one can't get a bike J just discovered due to Covid blah blah. She wants a Switch instead. I get they aren't what you would use but anybody know what you need with it as in do you have to get extra controls etc?

It'll come with 2 controls. Might be worth getting another set in the long run so all the family can play Mario Kart but they are £60 a pop so i'd leave it for a bit to make sure it actually gets used.

Cool thanks. As long as she can kick off with it with her brother and I am not back up to Smyths. I grasp the difference between the lite and normal one now

Raggs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:14 pmOut of interest, are there definite moments when dodging/parrying/rolling all have distinct advantages, or is it whichever you usually prefer?

You'll pick it up by feel. Depends if you're fighting monsters or enemies with swords. When getting swarmed by slashing monsters, rolling is essential to get out of range. Short dodging left or right as an enemy takes a swing (either monsters or with sword) leaves a nice opening to get a few quick attacks or a strong attack in.
Dodging forward is also a nice way to quickly close the distance in to an enemy if they're isolated and you want to deal with them before another gets close.

Learn to parry. Really helpful in sword and fist fights. It's simple, just hit the button as they start their swing, you'll knock them back and they're open for a moment. Also needed against opponents who block or use shields lots.

Nols wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:56 pm

Raggs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:14 pmOut of interest, are there definite moments when dodging/parrying/rolling all have distinct advantages, or is it whichever you usually prefer?

You'll pick it up by feel. Depends if you're fighting monsters or enemies with swords. When getting swarmed by slashing monsters, rolling is essential to get out of range. Short dodging left or right as an enemy takes a swing (either monsters or with sword) leaves a nice opening to get a few quick attacks or a strong attack in.
Dodging forward is also a nice way to quickly close the distance in to an enemy if they're isolated and you want to deal with them before another gets close.

Learn to parry. Really helpful in sword and fist fights. It's simple, just hit the button as they start their swing, you'll knock them back and they're open for a moment. Also needed against opponents who block or use shields lots.

Yeah, I did quite a bit of extra practice at in the tutorial, though I think my crash may have wiped out any progress.

Can't really advise on combat as my last run through was with Ghost mode.

Have you done the script merge for the mods?

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:06 pm Can't really advise on combat as my last run through was with Ghost mode.

Have you done the script merge for the mods?

Yeah, didn't work. I'll give it another go at some point.

Raggs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:07 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:06 pm Can't really advise on combat as my last run through was with Ghost mode.

Have you done the script merge for the mods?

Yeah, didn't work. I'll give it another go at some point.

The prologue section is dotted with fairly low level monsters and bandits that you can practice on. There's pretty much just one or two of everything; monster contracts, guarded treasure, boss battle that you prepare for over a few quests, some enemies that have the red skull of doom that you need to revisit after levelling up, etc.

It's the real game tutorial. The bit in Kaer Morhen is literally just learning the controls.

Nols wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:17 pm The prologue section is dotted with fairly low level monsters and bandits that you can practice on. There's pretty much just one or two of everything; monster contracts, guarded treasure, boss battle that you prepare for over a few quests, some enemies that have the red skull of doom that you need to revisit after levelling up, etc.

It's the real game tutorial. The bit in Kaer Morhen is literally just learning the controls.

I'm sure. It's just my muscle memory tends to not swap games well, and I'm rather programmed for minecraft dungeons right now, so don't want to think I'm attacking, when I'm actually dodging.

Mr Bungle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:14 pm I hope this thread picks up where PR left off and we're delivered page after page of fucking Witcher chat.

hmmmm medallion's humming...

Place of power, should draw from it...

Looks like rain

Witcher talk!

So far, learning to manage combat a bit better, mostly rolling but using dodge and parry a bit. Does parry work on monsters, or just people with swords? Haven't risked trying it.

Also, despite it occasionally working, I've mostly learnt to never help the dead or monsters, they'll screw you over. I'll probably still do it though.

Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:46 pmAlso, despite it occasionally working, I've mostly learnt to never help the dead or monsters, they'll screw you over. I'll probably still do it though.

What do you mean? Making choices for the benefit of others when there's no immediate payout?

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:30 pm Looks like rain

Yeah, no shit Geralt

Nols wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:12 pm

Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:46 pmAlso, despite it occasionally working, I've mostly learnt to never help the dead or monsters, they'll screw you over. I'll probably still do it though.

What do you mean? Making choices for the benefit of others when there's no immediate payout?

I mean so far...

Nols wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:18 pm

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TBF, the Baron outcome is one of the biggest side stories in the game. Has no bearing on the Ciri story, but is great in its own right. By condemning the village to being slaughtered by releasing a trapped demon, you saved the orphans.
It's the classic Witcher trope of choice between two evils. Shit outcomes either way.

Find a book in-game called "She Who Knows". Gives a nice bit of background to the spirit in the tree and the origins of the Crones. Late game gives more Crone lore details, which is as awesome and grisly as you'd expect.


The lubberkin bit has no bearing on the Baron's story. Releasing the botchling or killing it is pretty much an independent quest and outcome.

Horizon zero dawn coming to PC soon, excited for that, but probably won't be playing it on release, which gives it a chance to drop in price and also me to maybe have a better graphics card.

Oh yeah, did you fight the plague maiden or release it?
That poor guy is fucked either way.

Have you done Keira's follow up quests after the tower of mice?*


That story was horrific, btw, like most of the stories behind the side quests.

Mr Bungle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:14 pm I hope this thread picks up where PR left off and we're delivered page after page of fucking Witcher chat.

It's going to be fücking ace. I started the game in Jan and I'm still at kidnapping yer wan off the emperor's ship so you've lots of it to look forward to.

Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:46 pm Witcher talk!

So far, learning to manage combat a bit better, mostly rolling but using dodge and parry a bit. Does parry work on monsters, or just people with swords? Haven't risked trying it.

Also, despite it occasionally working, I've mostly learnt to never help the dead or monsters, they'll screw you over. I'll probably still do it though.

Use dodge. Roll is heavy on stamina.

HighKingLeinster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:57 pm

Witcher 3 stuff

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:20 pm

Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:46 pm Witcher talk!

So far, learning to manage combat a bit better, mostly rolling but using dodge and parry a bit. Does parry work on monsters, or just people with swords? Haven't risked trying it.

Also, despite it occasionally working, I've mostly learnt to never help the dead or monsters, they'll screw you over. I'll probably still do it though.

Use dodge. Roll is heavy on stamina.

I found dodge more useful than both roll and parry. Roll can let you get a good distance away from trouble though. Parry mostly works on humans.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:14 pm

Mr Bungle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:14 pm I hope this thread picks up where PR left off and we're delivered page after page of fucking Witcher chat.

It's going to be fücking ace. I started the game in Jan and I'm still at kidnapping yer wan off the emperor's ship so you've lots of it to look forward to.

Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:48 pm Witcher 3 stuff

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Released the plague maiden by taking her bones off the island. Went back to Keira, convinced her not to sell the information, took the info off her (at least I think I did, assuming she didn't lie, switch them etc) and told her to go to Kaer Morhen. So I'm hoping I've at least avoided releasing yet another plague into the world that way.

Just entered Novigrad after doing a few of the side quests and contracts in Velen. Loads of stuff still to do there, but want to be a higher level before I return, since I've seen Griffins etc flying around and high level ghouls, just trying to be careful.

Thanks for the tip on using dodge and not roll with regards to stamina, hadn't paid attention. Currently not using signs enough I feel. Only improved Axii too make sure I can use mind control when I need it, otherwise it's almost all combat.

That's the best Keira outcome, she'll reappear later in the game for a bit, and anything else ends up with her dying one way or another. Did you bed her along the way?

Regardless of whether you go for oils/attacks/sign upgrades, aim to upgrade your fast attack tree to whirl, and max that out. It's the fourth level down of the leftmost red column below. I'm halfway through my second playthrough and have just discovered that this is done by holding square, not mashing it. Gives a 360° attack what rapidly whittles down enemies. Really useful when facing multiple opponents. Costs stamina, but it's really powerful. Looks slick, too.

You feckers and your Witcher 3 chat. It’s on the list but the size scares me.

Nols wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:34 am

Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:48 pm Witcher 3 stuff

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Released the plague maiden by taking her bones off the island. Went back to Keira, convinced her not to sell the information, took the info off her (at least I think I did, assuming she didn't lie, switch them etc) and told her to go to Kaer Morhen. So I'm hoping I've at least avoided releasing yet another plague into the world that way.

Just entered Novigrad after doing a few of the side quests and contracts in Velen. Loads of stuff still to do there, but want to be a higher level before I return, since I've seen Griffins etc flying around and high level ghouls, just trying to be careful.

Thanks for the tip on using dodge and not roll with regards to stamina, hadn't paid attention. Currently not using signs enough I feel. Only improved Axii too make sure I can use mind control when I need it, otherwise it's almost all combat.

That's the best Keira outcome, she'll reappear later in the game for a bit, and anything else ends up with her dying one way or another. Did you bed her along the way?

Regardless of whether you go for oils/attacks/sign upgrades, aim to upgrade your fast attack tree to whirl, and max that out. It's the fourth level down of the leftmost red column below. I'm halfway through my second playthrough and have just discovered that this is done by holding square, not mashing it. Gives a 360° attack what rapidly whittles down enemies. Really useful when facing multiple opponents. Costs stamina, but it's really powerful. Looks slick, too.

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I figured that was a good outcome, got Letho going there too, so I guess that's useful too.

Whirl was on the list, I've been focusing as much as possible on fast attacks, now they do as much damage as my strong attacks basically. Although against some enemies strong attacks still seem to do a lot more, though I'm not sure of that now. I think it must be to do with armour.

Auto-apply oils doesn't seem to be working for me unfortunately. I'll check the mod to see if I'm doing something wrong, but I have started getting into the habit of applying oils now, especially since I've found some stronger recipes (don't have the basic ones though, so can't make them). I'll probably put a bit of effort into grabbing them now, seem useful.

EDIT - Still not using decoctions apart from as health regen. Will go through my list and see if there's anything I could start using more, I see there's one that seems to be a life steal type affair, could be handy.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:20 pm

HighKingLeinster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:57 pm

Amusingly that is actually him playing in most of those clips, and repping our clan tag too! His brother's in one of them and is far, far better than him - scarily good when he can be bothered.

Mike is an absolute pain in the arse with games like this, he's constantly reaching for the next "meta" weapon - lads lads lads I read the P90 with the silencer absolutely destroys, you should all try it (goes 3-12) - but I miss the days when he was popular and could get us free games...

We're all playing Modern Warfare now and I honestly hate it. It really feels like "the way to win" and "the way to have fun" are two very different things. Very different to Battlefield.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:19 am

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:20 pm

HighKingLeinster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:57 pm

Amusingly that is actually him playing in most of those clips, and repping our clan tag too! His brother's in one of them and is far, far better than him - scarily good when he can be bothered.

Mike is an absolute pain in the arse with games like this, he's constantly reaching for the next "meta" weapon - lads lads lads I read the P90 with the silencer absolutely destroys, you should all try it (goes 3-12) - but I miss the days when he was popular and could get us free games...

We're all playing Modern Warfare now and I honestly hate it. It really feels like "the way to win" and "the way to have fun" are two very different things. Very different to Battlefield.

Last sentence very interesting there, can totally see what you mean. I’ve not downloaded warfare as just seems to run&gun for me plus it’s over 100gig, for now I’m sticking with flawed bf5 which is still amusing me with its variety such as:

Trying to wipe out trees to get a clearer aim with your fixed gun
Getting roadkills in a jeep
The maps that become pistol grenade spamfests

I’m not great at run and gun as my thumbs just are not as dexterous as most kids, I’m far better in a tank and using strategy like laying down smoke for others or putting mines and spawn beacons in sneaky places.

Cod/mw games now just seem a bit prohibitive if you are a noob or just not very good, at least in BF games even if you are shit you can have a good game (even if you are as bad as Tae)

Warzone just seems like if you're not using the Grau MP5, you're not going to do well.

Both have just been nerfed. I don't really play Warzone though I don't think it's terrible. I'd just rather play Apex Legends if I'm going to play Battle Royale, and I'm still not convinced Battle Royale is actually, y'know, good.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:18 am Both have just been nerfed. I don't really play Warzone though I don't think it's terrible. I'd just rather play Apex Legends if I'm going to play Battle Royale, and I'm still not convinced Battle Royale is actually, y'know, good.

Watch a couple of streamers play the BR games (I'm nowhere near good enough to actually enjoy playing them myself, and prefer games I can easily pause), MW does seem a bit off in terms of balance. It seems like going far away from everyone, doing a few contracts (recon is good), to buy loadouts, and then staying in a building for as long as possible, whilst maybe doing another contract, seem like an easy way to get a long way in, and have a chance at the win. PUBG forced you into conflict more, since it was the best way to upgrade your weapons.

Yeah, I enjoy watching some steamers play Warzone. Just the chatter between them can be as entertaining as the gameplay a lot of the time. No time or inclination to actually play it and get good myself, though. Not arsed buying the base game to grind and unlock weapons in am entirely new meta.
If I fancy a bit of FPS, there are still a few live BF titles I can hop into.

Stonemountain64 is always good value to watch