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Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:26 pm
by Sandstorm
Slick wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:20 pm
Just been reading about this. As usual with anything to do with particles and such like I only understood 1 in four or 5 words but sounded cool.
Me too
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:26 pm
by Biffer
Slick wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:20 pm
Just been reading about this. As usual with anything to do with particles and such like I only understood 1 in four or 5 words but sounded cool.
Anyone who tells you they really understand it is probably lying.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:55 pm
by Slick
Biffer wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:26 pm
Slick wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:20 pm
Just been reading about this. As usual with anything to do with particles and such like I only understood 1 in four or 5 words but sounded cool.
Anyone who tells you they really understand it is probably lying.
It’s all about magnets and wobbling you see.
Anyway, still fascinating
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:15 pm
by Biffer
Slick wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:55 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:26 pm
Slick wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:20 pm
Just been reading about this. As usual with anything to do with particles and such like I only understood 1 in four or 5 words but sounded cool.
Anyone who tells you they really understand it is probably lying.
It’s all about magnets and wobbling you see.
Anyway, still fascinating
Explain magnets.
I have a degree in Astronomy and Physics and don't understand magnetism.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:33 pm
by Guy Smiley
Biffer wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:15 pm
Slick wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:55 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:26 pm
Anyone who tells you they really understand it is probably lying.
It’s all about magnets and wobbling you see.
Anyway, still fascinating
Explain magnets.
I have a degree in Astronomy and Physics and don't understand magnetism.
It's polar, man.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:23 pm
by Grandpa
Biffer wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:15 pm
Slick wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:55 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:26 pm
Anyone who tells you they really understand it is probably lying.
It’s all about magnets and wobbling you see.
Anyway, still fascinating
Explain magnets.
I have a degree in Astronomy and Physics and don't understand magnetism.
Dam... came here hoping for a good explanation. Where does Higgs boson fit in with this?
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:12 am
by assfly
My eldest son has started watching Neil deGrasse Tyson's Cosmos series.
I've seen it before, but I seem to find it even more interesting now.
Some of the stuff he goes through is truly mind-blowing. I can sometimes struggle to sleep after watching an episode.
The episode on the Cosmic Calendar is incredible, it's the first time I've been able to truly understand the age of the universe and how how brief we have been around. It actually changed my perception on life and history.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:50 am
by Slick
assfly wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:12 am
My eldest son has started watching Neil deGrasse Tyson's Cosmos series.
I've seen it before, but I seem to find it even more interesting now.
Some of the stuff he goes through is truly mind-blowing. I can sometimes struggle to sleep after watching an episode.
The episode on the Cosmic Calendar is incredible, it's the first time I've been able to truly understand the age of the universe and how how brief we have been around. It actually changed my perception on life and history.
What’s this on?
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:59 am
by assfly
Slick wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:50 am
What’s this on?
It was on Netflix a while ago, but I think they removed it (at least for Kenyan Netflix). Otherwise you can get both series on PirateBay.
But I think you can find most of the episodes on YouTube, even if they're small clips:
https://www.youtube.com/@cosmos9651/videos
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:11 am
by Slick
Thank you
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:32 am
by Uncle fester
What I love is how unwedded to the standard model that these scientists are.
They have a model that explains "most" things and they are going at it with a chainsaw to find a better model. Makes a change from scientists holding onto old ideas.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:51 am
by PornDog
Ptolemy was an Egyptian mathmetician and atronomer in the 2nd century. He built a model of the solar system that accurately predicted the positions of the planets in the nights sky. It's an incredibly accurate model and you can even use it today and it will tell you where all of the planets are.
The problem is that he had Earth at the center of the solar system. In order to explain the orbits of the planets, he had them make these corkscrew type movements as they revolved around the Earth, instead of in a normal orbit.
Now his model was correct by every ability to test it available at the time. All you had to do is look up to the sky and see that Mars is exactly where Ptolemy said it would be, and next week it will be in this position and lo and behold there it goes.
He was demonstrably correct, yet at the same time he was completely wrong due to a fundamental misunderstanding of what it was he was looking at.
Likewise, I believe that in time Dark Energy, Dark Flow and even Dark Matter will prove to be Ptolemaic Corkscrews. They are used to make sense of what it is that we are looking at, but ultimately I believe we have a fundamental misunderstanding about what that actually is.
Maybe "Muon Power" will lift the veil?
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:59 am
by Sandstorm
Uncle fester wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:32 am
What I love is how unwedded to the standard model that these scientists are.
They have a model that explains "most" things and they are going at it with a chainsaw to find a better model. Makes a change from scientists holding onto old ideas.
Hang on! Weren't they all trying to build a Lucy Liu-bot and only then saw some strange wobble in the particle generator they thought could be worth a second look?
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:11 am
by Biffer
Uncle fester wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:32 am
What I love is how unwedded to the standard model that these scientists are.
They have a model that explains "most" things and they are going at it with a chainsaw to find a better model. Makes a change from scientists holding onto old ideas.
Tbh that's what physicists do most of the time. They're very happy with a metaphorical chainsaw or hammer.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:12 am
by Biffer
Sandstorm wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:59 am
Uncle fester wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:32 am
What I love is how unwedded to the standard model that these scientists are.
They have a model that explains "most" things and they are going at it with a chainsaw to find a better model. Makes a change from scientists holding onto old ideas.
Hang on! Weren't they all trying to build a Lucy Liu-bot and only then saw some strange wobble in the particle generator they thought could be worth a second look?
No
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:15 am
by Biffer
PornDog wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:51 am
Ptolemy was an Egyptian mathmetician and atronomer in the 2nd century. He built a model of the solar system that accurately predicted the positions of the planets in the nights sky. It's an incredibly accurate model and you can even use it today and it will tell you where all of the planets are.
The problem is that he had Earth at the center of the solar system. In order to explain the orbits of the planets, he had them make these corkscrew type movements as they revolved around the Earth, instead of in a normal orbit.
Now his model was correct by every ability to test it available at the time. All you had to do is look up to the sky and see that Mars is exactly where Ptolemy said it would be, and next week it will be in this position and lo and behold there it goes.
He was demonstrably correct, yet at the same time he was completely wrong due to a fundamental misunderstanding of what it was he was looking at.
Likewise, I believe that in time Dark Energy, Dark Flow and even Dark Matter will prove to be Ptolemaic Corkscrews. They are used to make sense of what it is that we are looking at, but ultimately I believe we have a fundamental misunderstanding about what that actually is.
Maybe "Muon Power" will lift the veil?
Well, he was kinda wrong, but there's no privileged frame of reference, so in a way he was kinda right. If you look at a broader frame of reference than the sun, say our galaxy, the planets move in a 200,000 year corkscrewing orbit around galactic centre.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:15 am
by Tichtheid
assfly wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:12 am
My eldest son has started watching Neil deGrasse Tyson's Cosmos series.
I've seen it before, but I seem to find it even more interesting now.
Some of the stuff he goes through is truly mind-blowing. I can sometimes struggle to sleep after watching an episode.
The episode on the Cosmic Calendar is incredible, it's the first time I've been able to truly understand the age of the universe and how how brief we have been around. It actually changed my perception on life and history.
Absolutely brilliant series.
The Cosmic Address section was a mind-blower for me
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:29 am
by Sandstorm
Biffer wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:12 am
Sandstorm wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:59 am
Uncle fester wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:32 am
What I love is how unwedded to the standard model that these scientists are.
They have a model that explains "most" things and they are going at it with a chainsaw to find a better model. Makes a change from scientists holding onto old ideas.
Hang on! Weren't they all trying to build a Lucy Liu-bot and only then saw some strange wobble in the particle generator they thought could be worth a second look?
No
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:11 pm
by Insane_Homer
Carl Sagan > Neil deGrasse Tyson when it comes to presentation. I find Neil a bit condescending.
UK (mostly, if not all BBC) have some great presenters that do a much better job.
Jim Al-Khalili
Dallas Campbell
Hannah Fry
Alice Roberts
Helen Czerski
Brian Cox
YouTubers worth a watch
Fraser Cain
Scott Manley
Anton Pretov
Astrum
Sabine Hossenfelder
veritasium
the Royal Institute
Becky Smerthurst
Fermilab
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:16 pm
by Slick
Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:11 pm
Carl Sagan > Neil deGrasse Tyson when it comes to presentation. I find Neil a bit condescending.
UK (mostly, if not all BBC) have some great presenters that do a much better job.
Jim Al-Khalili
Dallas Campbell
Hannah Fry
Alice Roberts
Helen Czerski
Brian Cox
YouTubers worth a watch
Fraser Cain
Scott Manley
Anton Pretov
Astrum
Sabine Hossenfelder
veritasium
the Royal Institute
Becky Smerthurst
Fermilab
Actually, I just found the series on Disney and was a bit disappointed when I saw who he was - think I watched an episode and found him very annoying.
Still, good recommendations on here so going to give it another go
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:23 pm
by Uncle fester
Slick wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:16 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:11 pm
Carl Sagan > Neil deGrasse Tyson when it comes to presentation. I find Neil a bit condescending.
UK (mostly, if not all BBC) have some great presenters that do a much better job.
Jim Al-Khalili
Dallas Campbell
Hannah Fry
Alice Roberts
Helen Czerski
Brian Cox
YouTubers worth a watch
Fraser Cain
Scott Manley
Anton Pretov
Astrum
Sabine Hossenfelder
veritasium
the Royal Institute
Becky Smerthurst
Fermilab
Actually, I just found the series on Disney and was a bit disappointed when I saw who he was - think I watched an episode and found him very annoying.
Still, good recommendations on here so going to give it another go
Don't think it's the same series as the original.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:12 pm
by Uncle fester
Wind to power ships.
Can't believe nobody thought of this before.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-66543643
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:47 pm
by petej
Good innovation. Shame they are manufactured in China.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:59 pm
by Sandstorm
petej wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:47 pm
Good innovation. Shame they are manufactured in China.
Same story we'll hear over and over again in the next decade. Broken British Industry.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:03 pm
by Stranger
For you tube add:
PSB space time
Closer to the truth - if you are interested in the philosophy of science
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:45 pm
by Uncle fester
BBC News - Scientists get closer to solving mystery of antimatter
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66890649
TLDR
Gravity makes anti-matter fall down rather than rise.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:28 pm
by Slick
Peter Higgs has sadly died. Although 94 is a decent age.
Used to see him about a bit in Stockbridge when I lived there - I don’t often get starstruck but I did. Said hello twice and he was very friendly
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:43 pm
by Uncle fester
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:39 pm
by Biffer
Story comes around every now and again, various analyses and re analyses. Debating it. Tbh it's not actually that important - I mean, yes, it could perturb a big Oortobject and direct it at earth, but Jupiter could do that, so what the hey.
I told you guys about the nova that should happen in the next few months, didn't I?
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:46 pm
by Uncle fester
Yes. Boring. Tell us more about TNO's.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:08 pm
by Uncle fester
Iceberg twice the size of greater London stuck on a vortex.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd168081wxvo
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 4:19 pm
by TB63
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:28 am
by boere wors
Reminded me of this:
September 2017: A 250-metre-long (820 ft)
FATBERG weighing over 130 tonnes (140 short tons) was found under Whitechapel,
London.[30] Even working seven days a week at a cost of £1 million per month, officials estimated it would take two months to destroy it.[31][32] Two pieces of the fatberg were cut off on 4 October 2017 and, after several weeks of drying, were displayed at the Museum of London from 9 February 2018 through June 2018, as part of the museum's City Now City Future season.[33][34] According to curator Vyki Sparkes, the fatberg became one of the museum's most popular exhibits.[35]
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:42 am
by epwc
It was monstrous, just round the corner from our offices. Bloody immigrants coming here and cooking all their oily food
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:55 am
by Guy Smiley
A23a is the Superman of icebergs. It broke free in 1986
... and it could spend years stuck in this vortex. It should be out in the open ocean becoming at one but here it is, the King of Icebergs.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:02 pm
by Biffer
Liquid water found on Mars.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxl849j77ko
A worthwhile society would now examine this in a careful way to look for any form of microbial life in there. But we're more likely to scream EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT and thereby fuck up whatever ecosystem exists. Probably Musk, the cunt, will pledge to be first there.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:48 pm
by fishfoodie
Biffer wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:02 pm
Liquid water found on Mars.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxl849j77ko
A worthwhile society would now examine this in a careful way to look for any form of microbial life in there. But we're more likely to scream EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT and thereby fuck up whatever ecosystem exists. Probably Musk, the cunt, will pledge to be first there.
Mars has one advantage ......................................................................................... distance !
Space Karen can flap his lips all he wants, but he still has to deal with the mathematics of reality, that doesn't pay a blind bit of attention to the bullshit he endlessly spouts.
He can't land an spacecraft on the martian surface, & if he could, he couldn't get any equipment off the ship, & if he could, he couldn't get a gram of weight back off the surface.
He's a joke !
The problem is that he's a joke that somehow still gets taken seriously by people who should know he's a joke, & should therefore not get a single penny of Government subsidy
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:00 pm
by Biffer
fishfoodie wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:48 pm
Biffer wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:02 pm
Liquid water found on Mars.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxl849j77ko
A worthwhile society would now examine this in a careful way to look for any form of microbial life in there. But we're more likely to scream EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT and thereby fuck up whatever ecosystem exists. Probably Musk, the cunt, will pledge to be first there.
Mars has one advantage ......................................................................................... distance !
Space Karen can flap his lips all he wants, but he still has to deal with the mathematics of reality, that doesn't pay a blind bit of attention to the bullshit he endlessly spouts.
He can't land an spacecraft on the martian surface, & if he could, he couldn't get any equipment off the ship, & if he could, he couldn't get a gram of weight back off the surface.
He's a joke !
The problem is that he's a joke that somehow still gets taken seriously by people who should know he's a joke, & should therefore not get a single penny of Government subsidy
Starship is designed for lunar and Mars transport, it can lift more than anything previously made. So getting there will be within uis capability.
Landing on Mars though, as you say, really fucking difficult. It's the most difficult place to land in the solar system. I'm genuinely expecting him to kill people doing that.
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:13 pm
by Sandstorm
Landing on Mars is harder than Jupiter? Or Venus?
Re: The science is cool thread
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:18 pm
by Guy Smiley
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:13 pm
Landing on Mars is harder than Jupiter? Or Venus?
Fuck yeah. It's the traffic.