NPR

C69 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:09 am

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:48 am My question is would they be striking if they had two wins behind them.

Yes, now go and comment on something you know about.
Mumsnet it is then.

Ahh yes, the WRU in its final stages of its 2 decade plan to destroy Welsh rugby. Well done.

Perfect time for Qatar to step in and buy the lot!

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:14 pm Perfect time for Qatar to step in and buy the lot!

At the rate this is going, Refry could step in and buy the lot.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:27 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:14 pm Perfect time for Qatar to step in and buy the lot!

At the rate this is going, Refry could step in and buy the lot.

PCPhil wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:08 am If Italian players went on strike and a fixture had to be postponed or cancelled what would be the reaction from fans and the authorities do we think?

No idea. Am I missing something, why Italy specifically?

GogLais wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:29 pm

PCPhil wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:08 am If Italian players went on strike and a fixture had to be postponed or cancelled what would be the reaction from fans and the authorities do we think?

No idea. Am I missing something, why Italy specifically?

I guess because we're the newcomers and there's still a sizeable group of people who want us thrown out

sturginho wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:11 pm

GogLais wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:29 pm

PCPhil wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:08 am If Italian players went on strike and a fixture had to be postponed or cancelled what would be the reaction from fans and the authorities do we think?

No idea. Am I missing something, why Italy specifically?

I guess because we're the newcomers and there's still a sizeable group of people who want us thrown out

Oh right, I'm a trusting/naive soul, that never crossed my mind.

GogLais wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:17 pm

sturginho wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:11 pm

GogLais wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:29 pm

No idea. Am I missing something, why Italy specifically?

I guess because we're the newcomers and there's still a sizeable group of people who want us thrown out

Oh right, I'm a trusting/naive soul, that never crossed my mind.

So the thinly veiled question is: if Wales refuse to play England, do Georgia step into the 6N, because that's what would happen if it was Italy?

At least it shows that there's always a deeper trench to sink into, I guess. From non-competitive to non-playing to non-present.

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:27 pm

GogLais wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:17 pm

sturginho wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:11 pm

I guess because we're the newcomers and there's still a sizeable group of people who want us thrown out

Oh right, I'm a trusting/naive soul, that never crossed my mind.

So the thinly veiled question is: if Wales refuse to play England, do Georgia step into the 6N, because that's what would happen if it was Italy?

At least it shows that there's always a deeper trench to sink into, I guess. From non-competitive to non-playing to non-present.

I’d be surprised if the 6N doesn’t have a procedure if a team defaults for one game, after that I’ve no idea. I’m sure that if only for £££££ reasons the 6N would rather have Wales than Georgia. If the 6N has the power and the desire to kick us out at some stage then so be it I suppose.

Re the veiled suggestion that Wales would be treated differently from Italy, that’s a mightily rhetorical question .

Wasn’t having a go at Wales but for the appalling situation that has led to the real possibility of Welsh players saying we’re not playing leading to probably the biggest money making exercise in world rugby turning into a farce. Well that sure takes some ingenuity.

PCPhil wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:58 pm Wasn’t having a go at Wales but for the appalling situation that has led to the real possibility of Welsh players saying we’re not playing leading to probably the biggest money making exercise in world rugby turning into a farce. Well that sure takes some ingenuity.

Looks like Catch 22 to me. The WRU has right royally f**ked up and who knows where the money has been spent/squandered/misappropriated. The consequence is there isn't enough money to fund the club game, resulting in jeopardising players' futures. The only weapon the players have is to strike. Which would make a huge dent in the finances on the assumption a home Eng game is the most profitable event in the WRU's calendar.

This could all end up making the Prem's situation appear to be a minor aberration.

I wonder what else, if anything, the WRU/Regions need to know before letting the players know where they’re at.

GogLais wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:26 pm I wonder what else, if anything, the WRU/Regions need to know before letting the players know where they’re at.

Yeah that's the strange bit.

If cuts need to be made, get out ahead of it and pre-warn the regions, come to arrangements with senior international players allowing them to go to England and France to earn a decent wage, scrap the 60 cap rule, and come up with a 5 year plan to get out of the mess. Blood a ton of youngsters at the regions, spend whatever money there is on good coaches etc.

To sit and give no info and let this get to the point where it currently is, is completely fucked. If the WRU had any credibility beforehand, they certainly don't now.

And all the players walked out of an official WRU event tonight.

Good on them

Ealing to merge with or join the URC under the WRU.

A new London Welsh....


Seriously wtaf

C69 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:22 pm Ealing to merge with or join the URC under the WRU.

A new London Welsh....


Seriously wtaf

Ealing Dragons works for me.

C69 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:22 pm Ealing to merge with or join the URC under the WRU.

A new London Welsh....


Seriously wtaf

Sauce?

Edit: not to worry, found it

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... u-26249690

Absolute madness. Up there with destroying ERC to end up with a worse product and more resentment.

Wouldn't this fantasy need all the other URC clubs to approve it ?

In which case we'd have heard about it weeks ago !

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:28 pm Wouldn't this fantasy need all the other URC clubs to approve it ?

In which case we'd have heard about it weeks ago !

URC is not the problem. They'd be delighted. It's the RFU who'd be the spanner in the works.

Players apparently walked out of a sponsor's event tonight.

Typical. Just as we are about to win our first 6 Nations title, the Welsh fuck it up.

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:29 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:28 pm Wouldn't this fantasy need all the other URC clubs to approve it ?

In which case we'd have heard about it weeks ago !

URC is not the problem. They'd be delighted. It's the RFU who'd be the spanner in the works.

Is the contract just for the WRU to provide 4x teams to the URC ?

Is the CVC contract the same ?

I appreciate the national boundaries issue is an obvious problem; but so is expecting opposition teams to magically be able to field teams in a new Country ?

This smells more like a dead cat, than a serious proposition.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:24 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:22 pm Ealing to merge with or join the URC under the WRU.

A new London Welsh....


Seriously wtaf

Nigel Wray trying to wreck it from the inside

What?

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:12 am

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:29 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:28 pm Wouldn't this fantasy need all the other URC clubs to approve it ?

In which case we'd have heard about it weeks ago !

URC is not the problem. They'd be delighted. It's the RFU who'd be the spanner in the works.

Is the contract just for the WRU to provide 4x teams to the URC ?

Is the CVC contract the same ?

I appreciate the national boundaries issue is an obvious problem; but so is expecting opposition teams to magically be able to field teams in a new Country ?

This smells more like a dead cat, than a serious proposition.

Going to London instead of Wales is probably easier for everyone else in the URC.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:28 pm Wouldn't this fantasy need all the other URC clubs to approve it ?

In which case we'd have heard about it weeks ago !

And the RFU. It's complete nonsense.

Agree it's incredibly unlikely.

However, why would the RFU have to approve it if Ealing decided to completely drop out of the structure to pursue it? Genuine question, as I'm not sure how it works. Do you have to be RFU affiliated to play organised rugby in England for example?

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:31 am Agree it's incredibly unlikely.

However, why would the RFU have to approve it if Ealing decided to completely drop out of the structure to pursue it? Genuine question, as I'm not sure how it works. Do you have to be RFU affiliated to play organised rugby in England for example?

From what I recall of the discussions about Scotland/Ireland doing the same thing years back, essentially yes. I can't remember the details, mind.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:33 am

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:31 am Agree it's incredibly unlikely.

However, why would the RFU have to approve it if Ealing decided to completely drop out of the structure to pursue it? Genuine question, as I'm not sure how it works. Do you have to be RFU affiliated to play organised rugby in England for example?

From what I recall of the discussions about Scotland/Ireland doing the same thing years back, essentially yes. I can't remember the details, mind.

Cheers. Fair enough

There was some talk a few seasons ago of London Scottish becoming the 3rd Scottish pro team. I don't know the specifics of why it didn't happen, but seem to recall geography did play a role and it being questionable if a team could have its base in London under the banner of the SRU.

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:44 pm There was some talk a few seasons ago of London Scottish becoming the 3rd Scottish pro team. I don't know the specifics of why it didn't happen, but seem to recall geography did play a role and it being questionable if a team could have its base in London under the banner of the SRU.

God knows what you'd do with catchments.

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:35 am

Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:16 am I support the players 100%.

Fuck "the man".

Honestly though, they are 15 times more likely to get Motor Neurons, Early Onset etc from CTE from their brains smashihg the inside of their skulls.
The job is insane now.

Poster earlier was in about how charvy (with an r) Welsh rugby fans are, like it or not.. you are all down there with supporters of dog fighting or paying a homeless guy to hit themselves on the head with a hammer, if you support rugby now.

You've stopped watching all pro rugby?

Why are you even bothering to post on a rugby forum?

I would be on a "dog fighting, paying a homeless guy to hit themselves on the head with a hammer forum" too.

I go where the commercialised cruelty is,


Without me, you wouldn't know.
I see myself as the conscience of the species.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:33 am

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:31 am Agree it's incredibly unlikely.

However, why would the RFU have to approve it if Ealing decided to completely drop out of the structure to pursue it? Genuine question, as I'm not sure how it works. Do you have to be RFU affiliated to play organised rugby in England for example?

From what I recall of the discussions about Scotland/Ireland doing the same thing years back, essentially yes. I can't remember the details, mind.

I think the national unions involved have to approve any cross border competition. So this would require WRU, RFU, SRU, IRFU, SARU and FIR approval.

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:31 am Agree it's incredibly unlikely.

However, why would the RFU have to approve it if Ealing decided to completely drop out of the structure to pursue it? Genuine question, as I'm not sure how it works. Do you have to be RFU affiliated to play organised rugby in England for example?

I suppose they wouldn't technically (legally) have to get RFU approval, but you essentially have one Union pissing in another partner Union's back yard. They're not going to do that without their blessing.


It should also be noted that Welsh plans for the future of 2nd tier rugby haven't always (or ever) been grounded in reality!

inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:45 pm

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:44 pm There was some talk a few seasons ago of London Scottish becoming the 3rd Scottish pro team. I don't know the specifics of why it didn't happen, but seem to recall geography did play a role and it being questionable if a team could have its base in London under the banner of the SRU.

God knows what you'd do with catchments.

Plenty of Saffers in London.

Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:47 pm

inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:45 pm

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:44 pm There was some talk a few seasons ago of London Scottish becoming the 3rd Scottish pro team. I don't know the specifics of why it didn't happen, but seem to recall geography did play a role and it being questionable if a team could have its base in London under the banner of the SRU.

God knows what you'd do with catchments.

Plenty of Saffers in London.

On the other hand London Boks sounds like a residential development.

I want a viral promo video endorsed and featuring Tom Jones, Gareth Bale, Dafydd Iwan, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Anthony Hopkins and The Stereophonics to encourage the Welsh public to protest night and day outside the headquarters of the WRU.

If we want a fundamental and revolutionary change to the structure of Welsh Rugby this would be needed to bring down the army of inept, deluded, greedy blazers that are systematically bringing down a cornerstone of Welsh Culture.

Imagine 50,000 members of the public heading to Cardiff staying night and day to give these decrepit, putrid, morally and intellectually bankrupt, self serving, out of touch, spineless misogynistic degenerates that type of message. It's almost putting me a half-mast just thinking about it.

PlanetGlyndwr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:41 pm I want a viral promo video endorsed and featuring Tom Jones, Gareth Bale, Dafydd Iwan, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Anthony Hopkins and The Stereophonics to encourage the Welsh public to protest night and day outside the headquarters of the WRU.

If we want a fundamental and revolutionary change to the structure of Welsh Rugby this would be needed to bring down the army of inept, deluded, greedy blazers that are systematically bringing down a cornerstone of Welsh Culture.

Imagine 50,000 members of the public heading to Cardiff staying night and day to give these decrepit, putrid, morally and intellectually bankrupt, self serving, out of touch, spineless misogynistic degenerates that type of message. It's almost putting me a half-mast just thinking about it.

Given Welsh attendances that's a pretty hard one to imagine.

The public would be better off filling the coffers of the regions by going to games, showing interest so that the regions can earn more money both directly and indirectly (via increased sponsorship).

It's why the strike thing is a suicide mission without any of the usual benefits of a suicide mission.

It's a bit mean, tbf. Kicking them while they're not just down but almost dead.