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Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:13 pm**

Jesus. It took them long enough to see that.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:14 pm**

VdM getting flattened is deeply satisfying

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:14 pm**

No attacking shape but when you deliberately chose to leave two of our best attacking weapons on the bench it is bound to happen.

Nice play there to be fair.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:14 pm**

And then he does that

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:15 pm**

Nice and easy

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:15 pm**

If that was an Irish player rather than Steyn, Johnny Sexton would already be pleading in front of the UN Human Rights Commission

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:16 pm**

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:10 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:08 pm How is flipping someone 360 degrees not taking them past the horizontal?
Because he landed on his feet.

Purely through luck. It’s the defenders responsibility to get them to ground and relying on him spinning a full 360 doesn’t cut it.

Anyway, lovely Scotland try there.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:17 pm**

TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:15 pm If that was an Irish player rather than Steyn, Johnny Sexton would already be pleading in front of the UN Human Rights Commission

Your tears give me a lovely warm feeling.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:18 pm**

Great spot from the officials there.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:18 pm**

TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:15 pm If that was an Irish player rather than Steyn, Johnny Sexton would already be pleading in front of the UN Human Rights Commission

Whilst I like the sentiment, Scotland are not shy of a pop at the ref either!

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:18 pm**

Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:16 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:10 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:08 pm How is flipping someone 360 degrees not taking them past the horizontal?
Because he landed on his feet.
Purely through luck. It’s the defenders responsibility to get them to ground and relying on him spinning a full 360 doesn’t cut it.

Ya, but these things are reffed on what actually happens, not what you imagine might happen

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:19 pm**

The ref helping the Scots here

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:19 pm**

Saffa wingers doing the business

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:20 pm**

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:18 pm
TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:15 pm If that was an Irish player rather than Steyn, Johnny Sexton would already be pleading in front of the UN Human Rights Commission
Whilst I like the sentiment, Scotland are not shy of a pop at the ref either!

Don't think you'll find many who think Ritchie speaks well to the refs, aye

Scotland getting a lot of mileage out of attacking the Tongan ruck

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:23 pm**

That's a shocker.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:23 pm**

That's red

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:23 pm**

That's red, bye.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:23 pm**

That’s red

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:23 pm**

Grimly inevitable

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:23 pm**

Big D wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:23 pm That's a shocker.

Yip red

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:24 pm**

Red, nothing else

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:24 pm**

Tonga have been asking for a red all game. Every tackle has been high. Thankfully they've got one.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:24 pm**

Shoulder to head. Was always going to happen.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:25 pm**

PCPhil wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:12 pm But, can see a yellow or red for Tonga at some point. Trying the dominant hit a lot.

You called it.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:25 pm**

How is that not just a straight red, about as clear cut as they get

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:25 pm**

Bloutoria wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:25 pm
PCPhil wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:12 pm But, can see a yellow or red for Tonga at some point. Trying the dominant hit a lot.
You called it.

Sorry

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:25 pm**

Oh well that's the game then.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:26 pm**

ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:25 pm How is that not just a straight red, about as clear cut as they get

It seems like it's always yellow->bunker these days.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:27 pm**

Keen that we get the 4 tries before half time

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:28 pm**

Whatever else in terms of the quality of decision making, bunker system or no, we are seeing no evidence of players modifying behaviour. Just more reds and injuries.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:28 pm**

PCPhil wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:24 pm Shoulder to head. Was always going to happen.

Yip

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:28 pm**

Bloutoria wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:26 pm
ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:25 pm How is that not just a straight red, about as clear cut as they get
It seems like it's always yellow->bunker these days.

Yeah, the on field team didn’t even discuss it so must be the way it is being dealt with now

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:29 pm**

Bloutoria wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:26 pm
ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:25 pm How is that not just a straight red, about as clear cut as they get
It seems like it's always yellow->bunker these days.

Referees need to grow a pair and make a decision instead of contracting it out to the bunker

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:29 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:28 pm Whatever else in terms of the quality of decision making, bunker system or no, we are seeing no evidence of players modifying behaviour. Just more reds and injuries.

Quite. No option but to drop the tackle height now

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:30 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:28 pm Whatever else in terms of the quality of decision making, bunker system or no, we are seeing no evidence of players modifying behaviour. Just more reds and injuries.

Needs bigger punishments before that changes.

Notable that last night was extremely physical, brutal, and punishing but no high tackles.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:30 pm**

ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:29 pm
Bloutoria wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:26 pm
ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:25 pm How is that not just a straight red, about as clear cut as they get
It seems like it's always yellow->bunker these days.
Referees need to grow a pair and make a decision instead of contracting it out to the bunker

Predicted it as soon as they brought the bunker system in, we're only going to see on field reds for stuff like obvious punches or head butts from now on.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:32 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:30 pm
ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:29 pm
Bloutoria wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:26 pm

It seems like it's always yellow->bunker these days.
Referees need to grow a pair and make a decision instead of contracting it out to the bunker
Predicted it as soon as they brought the bunker system in, we're only going to see on field reds for stuff like obvious punches or head butts from now on.

Does it matter? Assuming they don’t cock up the call here

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:32 pm**

Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:30 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:28 pm Whatever else in terms of the quality of decision making, bunker system or no, we are seeing no evidence of players modifying behaviour. Just more reds and injuries.
Needs bigger punishments before that changes.

Notable that last night was extremely physical, brutal, and punishing but no high tackles.

Great point.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:32 pm**

Finns timing is just slightly out today

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:32 pm**

Great D by the prop on the wing.

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