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Posted: **Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:03 pm**

Holy shit

Posted: **Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:03 pm**

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:30 am**

Hard to see Ireland lose this but imagine the meltdown if Scotland knocks them out in the dying seconds with a 50/50 call. Sexton would surely blow a gasket and go full on apeshit. The interwebz would crash with all the angry Oirish following his lead.

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:45 am**

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 4:39 pm
Uncle fester wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:26 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:21 pm So long as that prick Lowe gets carried off with a ripped bawsack I'm not that bothered.
What's wrong with him? He's pretty sound as players go.
His screeching has surpassed what even peak-Itoje was capable of.

Lowe's up there with Bigger and Ashton.

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:58 am**

Jim Hamilton is quietly turning himself into an excellkent rugby journalist. His walking interview with ROG was amazing, this is even better. A real talent for asking tough personal questions in the friendliest way possible.

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:44 am**

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:58 am

Jim Hamilton is quietly turning himself into an excellkent rugby journalist. His walking interview with ROG was amazing, this is even better. A real talent for asking tough personal questions in the friendliest way possible.

I always like JH, but he does seem to be growing into the job, there are some genuinely funny bits in there

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:00 am**

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:20 am**

Begbie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:00 am

Oh that needs spreading in the Saffa Xhittersphere immediately. The loons will need to double their meds

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:47 am**

apart from the fact they appear to be dressed for polar expedition and its currently 20 degrees in Paris?

Journo looking for some

?

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:04 pm**

Deveron Boy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:47 am apart from the fact they appear to be dressed for polar expedition and its currently 20 degrees in Paris?

Journo looking for some ?

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:17 pm**

Deveron Boy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:47 am apart from the fact they appear to be dressed for polar expedition and its currently 20 degrees in Paris?

Journo looking for some ?

No he’s a highly reputable journalist who we should all take at his word, and that is visibly Paris in the background. I have no doubt at all that this is genuine and represents an attempt to fix the match.

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:02 pm**

Begbie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:00 am

So actors Oded Fehr & Jason Statham had lunch in Paris today. What does that have to with us?

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:30 am**

The winner of this clash will be WC favourites.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:55 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:30 am The winner of this clash will be WC favourites.

You have already declared that you want Scotland to win and send the Boks out of the tournament.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:24 am**

Chilli wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:55 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:30 am The winner of this clash will be WC favourites.
You have already declared that you want Scotland to win and send the Boks out of the tournament.

Vokof Soutie, you twist words like a propperse troller.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:49 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:24 am
Chilli wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:55 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:30 am The winner of this clash will be WC favourites.
You have already declared that you want Scotland to win and send the Boks out of the tournament.
Vokof Soutie, you twist words like a propperse troller.

I read that as "you twist words like a propeller troller.. which sort of works.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:53 am**

LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:49 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:24 am
Chilli wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:55 am

You have already declared that you want Scotland to win and send the Boks out of the tournament.
Vokof Soutie, you twist words like a propperse troller.
I read that as "you twist words like a propeller troller.. which sort of works.

I enter without checking. Must be the mockers.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:11 am**

I really hope Ireland put a cricket score on the Jocks.
The amount of crying and whining about how unfair the draw is has been pathetic.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:20 am**

C69 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:11 am I really hope Ireland put a cricket score on the Jocks.
The amount of crying and whining about how unfair the draw is has been pathetic.

To be fair they’d probably be above Japan in Pool D

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:27 am**

C69 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:11 am I really hope Ireland put a cricket score on the Jocks.
The amount of crying and whining about how unfair the draw is has been pathetic.

Easy for you to say playing tier 2 nations like Fiji, Georgia and Australia.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:33 am**

C69 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:11 am I really hope Ireland put a cricket score on the Jocks.
The amount of crying and whining about how unfair the draw is has been pathetic.

I'm not sure that is in any way a reflection of what has been going on.

There is an acknowledgment that the draw made mid December 2020 for a tournament played almost three full years later has left a lopsided tournament, a two tier tournament if you like. It is what it is and we just get on with it.

There is no hiding from the fact that the top five sides in the world are in pools A & B. The top seed in pool C is ranked 7th and the second is ranked 10th. The respective rankings in pool D are 6th and 12th.

Form says that Ireland should beat Scotland handily, Scotland winning would be one of the biggest upsets in the history of the tournament, still there is always the glimmer of hope before the match starts, I can see how we can do it, we just have to be better than them up front - easier said than done.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:37 am**

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:33 am
C69 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:11 am I really hope Ireland put a cricket score on the Jocks.
The amount of crying and whining about how unfair the draw is has been pathetic.

I'm not sure that is in any way a reflection of what has been going on.

There is an acknowledgment that the draw made mid December 2020 for a tournament played almost three full years later has left a lopsided tournament, a two tier tournament if you like. It is what it is and we just get on with it.

There is no hiding from the fact that the top five sides in the world are in pools A & B. The top seed in pool C is ranked 7th and the second is ranked 10th. The respective rankings in pool D are 6th and 12th.

Form says that Ireland should beat Scotland handily, Scotland winning would be one of the biggest upsets in the history of the tournament, still there is always the glimmer of hope before the match starts, I can see how we can do it, we just have to be better than them up front - easier said than done.

Yeah, and form also says Scotland would beat everyone in the other half of the draw!

Never mind, we'll just have to satisfy ourselves with another year of fucking the Welsh regions up in the URC and also giving them a whipping in the 6Ns.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:44 am**

A Scotland win is unlikely, but it wouldn't be a huge upset imo. Being rank underdogs, they might decide to throw everything at it Braveheart stylee, while Ireland may have one eye on the quarter finals already and not be fully up for this one...

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:44 am**

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:37 am
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:33 am
C69 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:11 am I really hope Ireland put a cricket score on the Jocks.
The amount of crying and whining about how unfair the draw is has been pathetic.

I'm not sure that is in any way a reflection of what has been going on.

There is an acknowledgment that the draw made mid December 2020 for a tournament played almost three full years later has left a lopsided tournament, a two tier tournament if you like. It is what it is and we just get on with it.

There is no hiding from the fact that the top five sides in the world are in pools A & B. The top seed in pool C is ranked 7th and the second is ranked 10th. The respective rankings in pool D are 6th and 12th.

Form says that Ireland should beat Scotland handily, Scotland winning would be one of the biggest upsets in the history of the tournament, still there is always the glimmer of hope before the match starts, I can see how we can do it, we just have to be better than them up front - easier said than done.
Yeah, and form also says Scotland would beat everyone in the other half of the draw!

Never mind, we'll just have to satisfy ourselves with another year of fucking the Welsh regions up in the URC and also giving them a whipping in the 6Ns.

I think England surprised everyone with their brilliant performance against the ABs at the last World Cup, I can't see it happening again this time against whoever they (probably) meet in the semis.

I will eat my hat if the four semifinalists don't come from pools A and B.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:50 am**

Gumboot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:44 am A Scotland win is unlikely, but it wouldn't be a huge upset imo. Being rank underdogs, they might decide to throw everything at it Braveheart stylee, while Ireland may have one eye on the quarter finals already and not be fully up for this one...

Seriously, Ireland are one of if not THE most professional teams around, there is no way they are slipping their form for Saturday. Their whole game revolves around being exceedingly well-drilled and everyone knowing what they are doing, making the right decisions and executing their tasks well. It would have to be a catastrophic failure of their systems for them to be sub-par, the best bet against them is to have a pack like La Rochelle have, it could be argued that South Africa have that but they still didn't manage it.

To beat them you have to get them on the back foot, getting in behind them before they can organise their line and you have to get your set piece operating at over 90%. They are a terrific side, you know what's coming with them, it's doing something about it is the difficult part.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:51 am**

You might want to check the draw again - pools C& D play each other in the quarter finals……

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:59 am**

Gumboot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:44 am A Scotland win is unlikely, but it wouldn't be a huge upset imo. Being rank underdogs, they might decide to throw everything at it Braveheart stylee, while Ireland may have one eye on the quarter finals already and not be fully up for this one...

My latest dream last night was Ireland not turning up and being distracted by the QF's and us racing into a 24-0 half time lead (3 converted trys and Finn knocking over 3 in the last play of the half). Sadly, they regrouped at half time and it was an agonising watch as they pulled it back and we eventually won in a heart breaking 24-23.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:05 am**

duke wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:51 am You might want to check the draw again - pools C& D play each other in the quarter finals……

Yes they do, my mistake. We had a not very flattering name for the repechage side of the draw at 7s tournaments, this is similar.

I rephrase then, I'll eat my hat if the two finalists don't come from pools A and B. I'd like it to be France and Ireland if Scotland fall at the next hurdle.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:20 am**

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:50 am
Gumboot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:44 am A Scotland win is unlikely, but it wouldn't be a huge upset imo. Being rank underdogs, they might decide to throw everything at it Braveheart stylee, while Ireland may have one eye on the quarter finals already and not be fully up for this one...

Seriously, Ireland are one of if not THE most professional teams around, there is no way they are slipping their form for Saturday. Their whole game revolves around being exceedingly well-drilled and everyone knowing what they are doing, making the right decisions and executing their tasks well. It would have to be a catastrophic failure of their systems for them to be sub-par, the best bet against them is to have a pack like La Rochelle have, it could be argued that South Africa have that but they still didn't manage it.

To beat them you have to get them on the back foot, getting in behind them before they can organise their line and you have to get your set piece operating at over 90%. They are a terrific side, you know what's coming with them, it's doing something about it is the difficult part.

South Africa would have beaten them with a kicker. They are not invincible.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:23 am**

Here we go.

Needed to be taken up a notch.

If there is even cursory reffing of the breakdown we definitely have a chance

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:16 am**

If there is even a cursory refereeing of Porter at the scrummage we will win

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:59 am**

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:20 am
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:50 am
Gumboot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:44 am A Scotland win is unlikely, but it wouldn't be a huge upset imo. Being rank underdogs, they might decide to throw everything at it Braveheart stylee, while Ireland may have one eye on the quarter finals already and not be fully up for this one...

Seriously, Ireland are one of if not THE most professional teams around, there is no way they are slipping their form for Saturday. Their whole game revolves around being exceedingly well-drilled and everyone knowing what they are doing, making the right decisions and executing their tasks well. It would have to be a catastrophic failure of their systems for them to be sub-par, the best bet against them is to have a pack like La Rochelle have, it could be argued that South Africa have that but they still didn't manage it.

To beat them you have to get them on the back foot, getting in behind them before they can organise their line and you have to get your set piece operating at over 90%. They are a terrific side, you know what's coming with them, it's doing something about it is the difficult part.
South Africa would have beaten them with a kicker. They are not invincible.

True, but we dealt with your lot without getting out of 3rd gear.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:08 pm**

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:59 am
clydecloggie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:20 am
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:50 am

Seriously, Ireland are one of if not THE most professional teams around, there is no way they are slipping their form for Saturday. Their whole game revolves around being exceedingly well-drilled and everyone knowing what they are doing, making the right decisions and executing their tasks well. It would have to be a catastrophic failure of their systems for them to be sub-par, the best bet against them is to have a pack like La Rochelle have, it could be argued that South Africa have that but they still didn't manage it.

To beat them you have to get them on the back foot, getting in behind them before they can organise their line and you have to get your set piece operating at over 90%. They are a terrific side, you know what's coming with them, it's doing something about it is the difficult part.
South Africa would have beaten them with a kicker. They are not invincible.
True, but we dealt with your lot without getting out of 3rd gear.

How many gears have you got? Important for spite levels

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:17 pm**

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:08 pm
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:59 am
clydecloggie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:20 am

South Africa would have beaten them with a kicker. They are not invincible.
True, but we dealt with your lot without getting out of 3rd gear.
How many gears have you got? Important for spite levels

How many gears do you normally get on a tractor?

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:06 pm**

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:09 pm**

So no White indeed. I'm still not convinced Price warrants the start, but don't think I have it in me to complain given White not hit prior levels.

Would have loved Horne to start

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:14 pm**

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:42 pm**

Don't like a 6/2, we won't beat Ireland in the pack and I think having backs trying to exploit (minimal) space is the way to go. But you can't really argue with the rest as White hasn't performed as we expect. Good on Crosbie too.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 3:11 pm**

TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:09 pm So no White indeed. I'm still not convinced Price warrants the start, but don't think I have it in me to complain given White not hit prior levels.

Would have loved Horne to start

I'd start Horne too but likewise can't argue White should be above Price. Crosbie over Watson is a big call.

Posted: **Thu Oct 05, 2023 3:16 pm**

Jock42 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 3:11 pm
TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:09 pm So no White indeed. I'm still not convinced Price warrants the start, but don't think I have it in me to complain given White not hit prior levels.

Would have loved Horne to start
I'd start Horne too but likewise can't argue White should be above Price. Crosbie over Watson is a big call.

I suppose our lineout has been a shambles vs Ireland over the years and Crosbie is another lineout option for later in the game maybe?

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