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Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 6:52 pm
by Gumboot
Ah righto, Murray's scratched then. A good defence is a non-negotiable at fullback. Shame, he's fun to watch on attack.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 9:22 pm
by Rhubarb & Custard
Gumboot wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 6:52 pm
Ah righto, Murray's scratched then. A good defence is a non-negotiable at fullback. Shame, he's fun to watch on attack.
We don't know he defends badly, when presented with an opportunity to defend he's ignored that part of the game. So he might be brilliant and just doesn't want to embarrass people, but too one might be inclined to think he makes Ramos look a brave defender
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 9:23 pm
by Deepsouth
Gumboot wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:09 am
Totally different to chanting "Hadlee's a wanker!" all day, then?
That's nearly 50 years ago mate.
Might be time to let it go......
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 9:48 pm
by Gumboot
Deepsouth wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 9:23 pm
Gumboot wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:09 am
Totally different to chanting "Hadlee's a wanker!" all day, then?
That's nearly 50 years ago mate.
Might be time to let it go......
Around these parts the first of Feb' is still commemorated as Underarm Outrage Day.
Deflect all you like, the point stands.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:39 pm
by Deepsouth
Gumboot wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 9:48 pm
Deepsouth wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 9:23 pm
Gumboot wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:09 am
Totally different to chanting "Hadlee's a wanker!" all day, then?
That's nearly 50 years ago mate.
Might be time to let it go......
Around these parts the first of Feb' is still commemorated as Underarm Outrage Day.
Deflect all you like, the point stands.
Precious much?
You boys have been crying over what was a perfectly legal delivery now for a long long time.
Brilliant strategic thinking from Gregory lol....
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 12:17 am
by Gumboot
Deepsouth wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:39 pmPrecious much?
Says the bloke who jumped onto the thread to whinge about the Barmy bloody Army. Cop onto yourself, cobber.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 2:46 am
by Deepsouth
Gumboot wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 12:17 am
Deepsouth wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:39 pmPrecious much?
Says the bloke who jumped onto the thread to whinge about the Barmy bloody Army. Cop onto yourself, cobber.
Mate I'm talking about current English fan behaviour.
Your talking about events half a century ago.
I would suggest that's not much of an equivalence bro......
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 2:56 am
by Gumboot
You're right, there's simply no comparison between harmless jingoistic banter and momentous historical events that rock the sport to its very core.
February 1, 1981 - a date which will live in infamy.
Cricket coulda doid that day, bro.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 4:21 am
by Deepsouth
Gumboot wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 2:56 am
You're right, there's simply no comparison between harmless jingoistic banter and momentous historical events that rock the sport to its very core.
February 1, 1981 - a date which will live in infamy.
Cricket coulda doid that day, bro.
All legal bro, all very legal.
Nothing to see there......
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 4:25 am
by Gumboot
Enjoy hosting the Lions, bro. I'm jealous.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 5:43 am
by Deepsouth
Gumboot wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 4:25 am
Enjoy hosting the Lions, bro. I'm jealous.
Cheers mate. Hoping for a cracker of a series. In Joe we trust. We will definately need our best team on the park to be competitive.
Go you good thing!!!
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:00 pm
by Deepsouth
Is there any one that can win a World Cup?.....lol
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:56 pm
by Guy Smiley
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:13 pm
by fishfoodie
That Lass watches a lot of Rugby !
Agree with the Reddit thread, it wouldn't be a bad 1st Test team; but I'd still prefer Keenan at FB
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:52 pm
by Tichtheid
Kinghorn is most effective at fullback, I'd prefer him there. I don't think the wingers will exclude vdMerwe.
I just don't get the Curry love at all. For the second tour in a row he seems to be riding a wave of population pressure. I don't particularly think Morgan did enough in the 6N either, although he is a quality player he wasn't even the best Welsh backrow on display.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:00 am
by Sandstorm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:13 pm
That Lass watches a lot of Rugby !
She’s our Uncle Fester
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:32 pm
by Slick
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:13 pm
That Lass watches a lot of Rugby !
Agree with the Reddit thread, it wouldn't be a bad 1st Test team; but I'd still prefer Keenan at FB
Nah, she’s an idiot buying into the English anti Russell hype.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:34 pm
by Tichtheid
I've seen an interview with Finn from last week where at the end he talks about the Lions, specifically he talks about how Ireland play. Everyone knows where they are supposed to be at any given time and it works so well because they are all very well drilled.
He didn't say this, but I take that a step further and say that is how Leinster work, they have a large squad in which everyone can slot in and know their job, it's been years in the making and they all just fit in when called in to the side. If Jordie Barrett and RG Snyman were from Blackrock school they would be in the Ireland team too.
Finn said that Ireland play fairly narrow and kick really well, they are very good at chasing kicks. He prefers playing with wider passes than Ireland (or Leinster) do.
I hope this doesn't count against him, not him saying it, the coaches and analysts will know all this. My point is that if the Lions are Leinster+ it will be a disaster. They will win but it will be shite
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:46 am
by Uncle fester
Tichtheid wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:34 pm
I've seen an interview with Finn from last week where at the end he talks about the Lions, specifically he talks about how Ireland play. Everyone knows where they are supposed to be at any given time and it works so well because they are all very well drilled.
He didn't say this, but I take that a step further and say that is how Leinster work, they have a large squad in which everyone can slot in and know their job, it's been years in the making and they all just fit in when called in to the side. If Jordie Barrett and RG Snyman were from Blackrock school they would be in the Ireland team too.
Finn said that Ireland play fairly narrow and kick really well, they are very good at chasing kicks. He prefers playing with wider passes than Ireland (or Leinster) do.
I hope this doesn't count against him, not him saying it, the coaches and analysts will know all this. My point is that if the Lions are Leinster+ it will be a disaster. They will win but it will be shite
Ireland play that way because we lack pace out wide. Am pretty confident that Farrell will widen the playbook with faster players available to him.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:22 am
by Yeeb
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:52 pm
Kinghorn is most effective at fullback, I'd prefer him there. I don't think the wingers will exclude vdMerwe.
I just don't get the Curry love at all. For the second tour in a row he seems to be riding a wave of population pressure. I don't particularly think Morgan did enough in the 6N either, although he is a quality player he wasn't even the best Welsh backrow on display.
Maybe Lawes will get called up, apparently he’s tearing it up in D2
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:49 am
by SaintK
Yeeb wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:22 am
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:52 pm
Kinghorn is most effective at fullback, I'd prefer him there. I don't think the wingers will exclude vdMerwe.
I just don't get the Curry love at all. For the second tour in a row he seems to be riding a wave of population pressure. I don't particularly think Morgan did enough in the 6N either, although he is a quality player he wasn't even the best Welsh backrow on display.
Maybe Lawes will get called up, apparently he’s tearing it up in D2
As much as I'd love to see him, at 36 this might well be a tour too far?
Brive are 2nd in the standings and may well be involved in play-offs at thee end of the season
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:49 am
by SaintK
Double post
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:04 am
by Tichtheid
SaintK wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:49 am
Yeeb wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:22 am
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:52 pm
Kinghorn is most effective at fullback, I'd prefer him there. I don't think the wingers will exclude vdMerwe.
I just don't get the Curry love at all. For the second tour in a row he seems to be riding a wave of population pressure. I don't particularly think Morgan did enough in the 6N either, although he is a quality player he wasn't even the best Welsh backrow on display.
Maybe Lawes will get called up, apparently he’s tearing it up in D2
As much as I'd love to see him, at 36 this might well be a tour too far?
Brive are 2nd in the standings and may well be involved in play-offs at thee end of the season
At 36 is he better than any English option in the second or back row? If he was surely he’s have been offered a good club contract in England? He’s not in the same boat as Willis where his club went under.
Then he also has to be better than the options from Scotland, Ireland and Wales too.
I haven’t seen any ProD2, but I’ve been watching internationals and top European and club rugby - there is good competition for places in the back five of the scrum.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:52 am
by SaintK
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:04 am
SaintK wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:49 am
Yeeb wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:22 am
Maybe Lawes will get called up, apparently he’s tearing it up in D2
As much as I'd love to see him, at 36 this might well be a tour too far?
Brive are 2nd in the standings and may well be involved in play-offs at thee end of the season
At 36 is he better than any English option in the second or back row? If he was surely he’s have been offered a good club contract in England? He’s not in the same boat as Willis where his club went under.
Then he also has to be better than the options from Scotland, Ireland and Wales too.
I haven’t seen any ProD2, but I’ve been watching internationals and top European and club rugby - there is good competition for places in the back five of the scrum.
Saints offered him a new contract, he'd always said he wouldn't play for another Premiership side having been at Saints since he was 16. Brive came in with an offer he couldn't refuse which was an awful lot more than Saints could afford and included housing and all his kids school fees for 2 years!!
I don't watch Pro D2 either but by all accounts he is having a great first season. In his prime he'd be a shoo-in, can't see him touring this time though.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:24 am
by Tichtheid
SaintK wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:52 am
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:04 am
SaintK wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:49 am
As much as I'd love to see him, at 36 this might well be a tour too far?
Brive are 2nd in the standings and may well be involved in play-offs at thee end of the season
At 36 is he better than any English option in the second or back row? If he was surely he’s have been offered a good club contract in England? He’s not in the same boat as Willis where his club went under.
Then he also has to be better than the options from Scotland, Ireland and Wales too.
I haven’t seen any ProD2, but I’ve been watching internationals and top European and club rugby - there is good competition for places in the back five of the scrum.
Saints offered him a new contract, he'd always said he wouldn't play for another Premiership side having been at Saints since he was 16. Brive came in with an offer he couldn't refuse which was an awful lot more than Saints could afford and included housing and all his kids school fees for 2 years!!
I don't watch Pro D2 either but by all accounts he is having a great first season. In his prime he'd be a shoo-in, can't see him touring this time though.
I can see why he took the contract.
I can’t see him on the Lions tour either, I think it’s easy to get a bit sentimental over good players but I can’t see Farrell watching ProD2 games when has lots of options available.
On a related note, Jamie Ritchie signed for Perpignan for next season and they are in second bottom spot in the Top14. It would be bad for him to not play top class rugby in his late 20s, he’s just come back into his best form too after the Scottish captaincy got to him a bit.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:26 am
by dpedin
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:24 am
SaintK wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:52 am
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:04 am
At 36 is he better than any English option in the second or back row? If he was surely he’s have been offered a good club contract in England? He’s not in the same boat as Willis where his club went under.
Then he also has to be better than the options from Scotland, Ireland and Wales too.
I haven’t seen any ProD2, but I’ve been watching internationals and top European and club rugby - there is good competition for places in the back five of the scrum.
Saints offered him a new contract, he'd always said he wouldn't play for another Premiership side having been at Saints since he was 16. Brive came in with an offer he couldn't refuse which was an awful lot more than Saints could afford and included housing and all his kids school fees for 2 years!!
I don't watch Pro D2 either but by all accounts he is having a great first season. In his prime he'd be a shoo-in, can't see him touring this time though.
I can see why he took the contract.
I can’t see him on the Lions tour either, I think it’s easy to get a bit sentimental over good players but I can’t see Farrell watching ProD2 games when has lots of options available.
Agreed - lets focus on the current crop of players who are in their prime rather than someone who was a fantastic player a few years ago but is now winding down to retirement playing in a second tier league.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:26 am
by SaintK
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:24 am
SaintK wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:52 am
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:04 am
At 36 is he better than any English option in the second or back row? If he was surely he’s have been offered a good club contract in England? He’s not in the same boat as Willis where his club went under.
Then he also has to be better than the options from Scotland, Ireland and Wales too.
I haven’t seen any ProD2, but I’ve been watching internationals and top European and club rugby - there is good competition for places in the back five of the scrum.
Saints offered him a new contract, he'd always said he wouldn't play for another Premiership side having been at Saints since he was 16. Brive came in with an offer he couldn't refuse which was an awful lot more than Saints could afford and included housing and all his kids school fees for 2 years!!
I don't watch Pro D2 either but by all accounts he is having a great first season. In his prime he'd be a shoo-in, can't see him touring this time though.
I can see why he took the contract.
I can’t see him on the Lions tour either, I think it’s easy to get a bit sentimental over good players but I can’t see Farrell watching ProD2 games when has lots of options available.
On a related note, Jamie Ritchie signed for Perpignan for next season and they are in second bottom spot in the Top14. It would be bad for him to not play top class rugby in his late 20s, he’s just come back into his best form too after the Scottish captaincy got to him a bit.
Perpignan could end up playing Brive in a play off!!!
Probably a bit of a lifestyle choice in the decision. Beautiful part of France.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:47 am
by Tichtheid
SaintK wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:26 am
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:24 am
SaintK wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:52 am
Saints offered him a new contract, he'd always said he wouldn't play for another Premiership side having been at Saints since he was 16. Brive came in with an offer he couldn't refuse which was an awful lot more than Saints could afford and included housing and all his kids school fees for 2 years!!
I don't watch Pro D2 either but by all accounts he is having a great first season. In his prime he'd be a shoo-in, can't see him touring this time though.
I can see why he took the contract.
I can’t see him on the Lions tour either, I think it’s easy to get a bit sentimental over good players but I can’t see Farrell watching ProD2 games when has lots of options available.
On a related note, Jamie Ritchie signed for Perpignan for next season and they are in second bottom spot in the Top14. It would be bad for him to not play top class rugby in his late 20s, he’s just come back into his best form too after the Scottish captaincy got to him a bit.
Perpignan could end up playing Brive in a play off!!!
Probably a bit of a lifestyle choice in the decision. Beautiful part of France.
I lived inland from Perpignan, about halfway to Andorra from there, the coastal towns are lovely. My boss lived in a gorgeous place called Céret, plane tree-lined streets offering shade from the hot sun, beautiful architecture, town square market for fresh food, very Spanish/French/Catalan. They used to have Feria where they’d run bulls through the streets and have bull fights too, I don’t know if they still do that.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:12 pm
by SaintK
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:47 am
SaintK wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:26 am
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:24 am
I can see why he took the contract.
I can’t see him on the Lions tour either, I think it’s easy to get a bit sentimental over good players but I can’t see Farrell watching ProD2 games when has lots of options available.
On a related note, Jamie Ritchie signed for Perpignan for next season and they are in second bottom spot in the Top14. It would be bad for him to not play top class rugby in his late 20s, he’s just come back into his best form too after the Scottish captaincy got to him a bit.
Perpignan could end up playing Brive in a play off!!!
Probably a bit of a lifestyle choice in the decision. Beautiful part of France.
I lived inland from Perpignan, about halfway to Andorra from there, the coastal towns are lovely. My boss lived in a gorgeous place called Céret, plane tree-lined streets offering shade from the hot sun, beautiful architecture, town square market for fresh food, very Spanish/French/Catalan. They used to have Feria where they’d run bulls through the streets and have bull fights too, I don’t know if they still do that.
Lucky man!
I've only holidayed down that way
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:00 am
by Begbie
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:05 am
by duke
Has he taken the space on the coaching team previously occupied by Neil Jenkins?
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:54 pm
by Begbie
duke wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:05 am
Has he taken the space on the coaching team previously occupied by Neil Jenkins?
Looks like it.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:27 pm
by westport
Finn would be as well booking a family holiday
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:20 pm
by Slick
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:32 pm
by Blackmac
westport wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:27 pm
Finn would be as well booking a family holiday
Absolute joke of an appointment. Not only no coaching experience but a man that has made no secret of his dislike of Finn Russell.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:35 pm
by Yeeb
SaintK wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:49 am
Yeeb wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:22 am
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:52 pm
Kinghorn is most effective at fullback, I'd prefer him there. I don't think the wingers will exclude vdMerwe.
I just don't get the Curry love at all. For the second tour in a row he seems to be riding a wave of population pressure. I don't particularly think Morgan did enough in the 6N either, although he is a quality player he wasn't even the best Welsh backrow on display.
Maybe Lawes will get called up, apparently he’s tearing it up in D2
As much as I'd love to see him, at 36 this might well be a tour too far?
Brive are 2nd in the standings and may well be involved in play-offs at thee end of the season
Just airing musings , as a counter to the comment about curry. I’d rather have lawes there who doesn’t appear to be winding down in performance just yet, to some overated celts who underperform when it actually matters.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:58 pm
by Monk
Blackmac wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:32 pm
westport wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:27 pm
Finn would be as well booking a family holiday
Absolute joke of an appointment. Not only no coaching experience but a man that has made no secret of his dislike of Finn Russell.
I cannot see Sexton being able to coach a backline drawn from various quarters to play the style he was effective at in the time available.
In any event not sure that the Lions should try and replicate this phase-play. They have the benefit of drawing outstanding backline players who can produce the kind of direct rugby that the Aussies will find difficult to cope with. IMO the Lions 10's should be Russel and F. Smith - best equipped to bring class outside backs into play.
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:51 pm
by SaintK
Blackmac wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:32 pm
westport wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:27 pm
Finn would be as well booking a family holiday
Absolute joke of an appointment. Not only no coaching experience but a man that has made no secret of his dislike of Finn Russell.
Beyond a joke
Zero coaching experience and fucking awful interpersonal skills all round
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:50 pm
by Deveron Boy
SaintK wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:51 pm
Blackmac wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:32 pm
westport wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:27 pm
Finn would be as well booking a family holiday
Absolute joke of an appointment. Not only no coaching experience but a man that has made no secret of his dislike of Finn Russell.
Beyond a joke
Zero coaching experience and fucking awful interpersonal skills all round
Might as well go ‘all in’ on the cnut count and pick Owen as part of the squad….
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:07 pm
by Uncle fester
Blackmac wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:32 pm
westport wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:27 pm
Finn would be as well booking a family holiday
Absolute joke of an appointment. Not only no coaching experience but a man that
has made no secret of his dislike of Finn Russell.
