Re: The Tennis Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:31 pm
Why would she not ‘choose’ to represent Britain? She has lived here since she was 2. Or do you think she isn’t really British?
Given that the US tennis player Shelby Rogers has said she expected to receive death threats on social media following her recent loss to Raducanu in the US open, and the Japanese player Naomi Osaka has complained about the pressures of playing top class tennis and the affect this has had on her mental health, it seems these pressures might not be confined to just the British press and fans.
Bloody hell, just seen this! Incredible achievement.Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:48 am Blimey. Raducanu equally comfortable in the semifinal 6-1 6-4. Other semifinal won by the Canadian Leylah Fernandez who turned 19 earlier this week.
Bit of a changing of the guard in Women's tennis? Might see these two knocking lumps off each other for at least ten years.
Cunt Morgan has been busy insinuating it was because he criticised here that she toughened up.Slick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:52 amBloody hell, just seen this! Incredible achievement.Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:48 am Blimey. Raducanu equally comfortable in the semifinal 6-1 6-4. Other semifinal won by the Canadian Leylah Fernandez who turned 19 earlier this week.
Bit of a changing of the guard in Women's tennis? Might see these two knocking lumps off each other for at least ten years.
Anyone know if it will be shown on normal TV?
EDIT: hope some of the cunts who gave her a hard time after Wimbledon are feeling shit this morning.
He's such an arse.Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:08 amCunt Morgan has been busy insinuating it was because he criticised here that she toughened up.Slick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:52 amBloody hell, just seen this! Incredible achievement.Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:48 am Blimey. Raducanu equally comfortable in the semifinal 6-1 6-4. Other semifinal won by the Canadian Leylah Fernandez who turned 19 earlier this week.
Bit of a changing of the guard in Women's tennis? Might see these two knocking lumps off each other for at least ten years.
Anyone know if it will be shown on normal TV?
EDIT: hope some of the cunts who gave her a hard time after Wimbledon are feeling shit this morning.
Did you miss Wimbledon when Morgan was not tremendously keen on her? He was criticising her in a way that he usually reserves for mixed race American women.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:18 am Born in Canada with a Romanian father and Chinese mother. Would be interesting to see if she'd arrived across the Channel whether Morgan and co would be so keen on claiming her as British. Especially if she was no good.
I realise and hope you are you are just having a go at ‘Morgan and co’ but I find this post like the one from Calculon above a bit personal. Why would she have to be ‘claimed’ to be British if she has lived here since she was 2 and it is the only country she has ever known as home. The topic should not even be fit for any discussion.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:18 am Born in Canada with a Romanian father and Chinese mother. Would be interesting to see if she'd arrived across the Channel whether Morgan and co would be so keen on claiming her as British. Especially if she was no good.
It seems every fucking thread has to go this way...PCPhil wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:49 amI realise and hope you are you are just having a go at ‘Morgan and co’ but I find this post like the one from Calculon above a bit personal. Why would she have to be ‘claimed’ to be British if she has lived here since she was 2 and it is the only country she has ever known as home. The topic should not even be fit for any discussion.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:18 am Born in Canada with a Romanian father and Chinese mother. Would be interesting to see if she'd arrived across the Channel whether Morgan and co would be so keen on claiming her as British. Especially if she was no good.
Piers Morgan is a total wanker. But I've not been aware he's never taken umbrage with people with different born with different national or ethnic backgrounds being regarded as British before.PCPhil wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:49 amI realise and hope you are you are just having a go at ‘Morgan and co’ but I find this post like the one from Calculon above a bit personal. Why would she have to be ‘claimed’ to be British if she has lived here since she was 2 and it is the only country she has ever known as home. The topic should not even be fit for any discussion.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:18 am Born in Canada with a Romanian father and Chinese mother. Would be interesting to see if she'd arrived across the Channel whether Morgan and co would be so keen on claiming her as British. Especially if she was no good.
Only extremist on twitter make that case. Morgan has slagged off numerous big sports people and celebrities. It's only race baiters who make this case, literally off 1 or 2 examples out of the many he's mouthed off on. He was only slagging off Brett Lee this year.robmatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:31 amDid you miss Wimbledon when Morgan was not tremendously keen on her? He was criticising her in a way that he usually reserves for mixed race American women.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:18 am Born in Canada with a Romanian father and Chinese mother. Would be interesting to see if she'd arrived across the Channel whether Morgan and co would be so keen on claiming her as British. Especially if she was no good.
I have little or no interest in tennis but this is a great storySlick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:52 amBloody hell, just seen this! Incredible achievement.Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:48 am Blimey. Raducanu equally comfortable in the semifinal 6-1 6-4. Other semifinal won by the Canadian Leylah Fernandez who turned 19 earlier this week.
Bit of a changing of the guard in Women's tennis? Might see these two knocking lumps off each other for at least ten years.
Anyone know if it will be shown on normal TV?
EDIT: hope some of the cunts who gave her a hard time after Wimbledon are feeling shit this morning.
Despite 3 extra games due to qualifying, Raducanu has still played over an hour lass than Fernandez this US Open.BnM wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:26 am Look at these scores Bit tired today.
Q1: 6-1, 6-2 - beats Bibiane Schoofs - QUALIFYING
Q2: 6-3, 7-5 - beats Mariam Bolkvadze - QUALIFYING
Q3: 6-1, 6-4 - beats Mayar Sherif - QUALIFYING
R1: 6-2, 6-3 - beats Stefanie Vogele
R2: 6-2, 6-4 - beats Zhang Shuai
R3: 6-0, 6-1 - beats Sara Sorribes Tormo
R4: 6-2, 6-1 - beats Shelby Rogers
QF: 6-3, 6-4 - beats Belinda Bencic
SF: 6-1, 6-4 - beats Maria Sakkari
They've known each other for years in junior tennis. I don't know if one would call them friends, but they're certainly friendly.
I don't, and I doubt torq does either, have a problem with people having multiple national identities. But certain UK journalists will, although less so if she keeps on winning. And it's always amusing to see how the british press and some fans, will play up her britishnessPCPhil wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:49 amI realise and hope you are you are just having a go at ‘Morgan and co’ but I find this post like the one from Calculon above a bit personal. Why would she have to be ‘claimed’ to be British if she has lived here since she was 2 and it is the only country she has ever known as home. The topic should not even be fit for any discussion.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:18 am Born in Canada with a Romanian father and Chinese mother. Would be interesting to see if she'd arrived across the Channel whether Morgan and co would be so keen on claiming her as British. Especially if she was no good.
I thought they have only ever played once, at Wimbledon juniors 3 years ago?Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:42 amThey've known each other for years in junior tennis. I don't know if one would call them friends, but they're certainly friendly.
Raducanu is just being weird, yes she's given up some break point chances and hasn't been punished for that, but that aside she's producing high class shots with a low error rate, and that low error rate would please someone like Djokovic, it's not something a kid is supposed to be able to put together.
When did I claim her to be a fake? I actually said her joy was genuine. And yes how many players from qualifying have gone past the quarters?Calculon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:43 amI don't, and I doubt torq does either, have a problem with people having multiple national identities. But certain UK journalists will, although less so if she keeps on winning. And it's always amusing to see how the british press and some fans, will play up her britishnessPCPhil wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:49 amI realise and hope you are you are just having a go at ‘Morgan and co’ but I find this post like the one from Calculon above a bit personal. Why would she have to be ‘claimed’ to be British if she has lived here since she was 2 and it is the only country she has ever known as home. The topic should not even be fit for any discussion.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:18 am Born in Canada with a Romanian father and Chinese mother. Would be interesting to see if she'd arrived across the Channel whether Morgan and co would be so keen on claiming her as British. Especially if she was no good.
The fan comment was more directed at eldanialtwat and call me Bill who was claiming she was a fake on PR, but only when eldanialtwat was convinced she wasn't going to go past the quarters. It's all good now that she's shown herself to be the real deal
eldanielfire wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:45 amI thought they have only ever played once, at Wimbledon juniors 3 years ago?Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:42 amThey've known each other for years in junior tennis. I don't know if one would call them friends, but they're certainly friendly.
Raducanu is just being weird, yes she's given up some break point chances and hasn't been punished for that, but that aside she's producing high class shots with a low error rate, and that low error rate would please someone like Djokovic, it's not something a kid is supposed to be able to put together.
True.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:09 ameldanielfire wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:45 amI thought they have only ever played once, at Wimbledon juniors 3 years ago?Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:42 am
They've known each other for years in junior tennis. I don't know if one would call them friends, but they're certainly friendly.
Raducanu is just being weird, yes she's given up some break point chances and hasn't been punished for that, but that aside she's producing high class shots with a low error rate, and that low error rate would please someone like Djokovic, it's not something a kid is supposed to be able to put together.
There are more meeting places in tennis than just on court. I'm not saying they grew up together or are especially close, merely they have known each other for around a third of their lives and they seem to get along just fine, whether in the locker room or away from tennis
On Radio 4 earlier they mentioned when Fernandez had her birthday she brought some cupcakes into the locker room and Raducanu was one of those who went over to have a cake and wish her well. That's perhaps driven in part by their being closer in age than much of the locker room and their standing in the locker room, at least as was, but they're certainly not players who ignore each other, they'll have a chat and a laugh, and they'll often have been in the same orbit since they were 12/13eldanielfire wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:35 amTrue.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:09 ameldanielfire wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:45 am
I thought they have only ever played once, at Wimbledon juniors 3 years ago?
There are more meeting places in tennis than just on court. I'm not saying they grew up together or are especially close, merely they have known each other for around a third of their lives and they seem to get along just fine, whether in the locker room or away from tennis
TBF, 2 things I pay next to no attention to are Wimbledon and Morgan!robmatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:31 amDid you miss Wimbledon when Morgan was not tremendously keen on her? He was criticising her in a way that he usually reserves for mixed race American women.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:18 am Born in Canada with a Romanian father and Chinese mother. Would be interesting to see if she'd arrived across the Channel whether Morgan and co would be so keen on claiming her as British. Especially if she was no good.
That was precisely my point. And not just Morgan. Had she washed up in a rubber dinghy in Dover 16 years ago and was now on the dole, pretty sure there would be a lot of changed attitudes.PCPhil wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:49 amI realise and hope you are you are just having a go at ‘Morgan and co’ but I find this post like the one from Calculon above a bit personal. Why would she have to be ‘claimed’ to be British if she has lived here since she was 2 and it is the only country she has ever known as home. The topic should not even be fit for any discussion.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:18 am Born in Canada with a Romanian father and Chinese mother. Would be interesting to see if she'd arrived across the Channel whether Morgan and co would be so keen on claiming her as British. Especially if she was no good.
Could be. But in women's tennis there are so many false dawns, Ostapenko, Stephens, Kenin, Andreescu, etc who win one slam, have big things predicted and then don't repeat for years as their form drops off a cliff after a slam win. Some might grab a couple, but we haven't seen a great women's rivalry for a long time. Even the Sharapova-Serena one never really happened after Wimbledon 2004.
To be fair, Stephens was 24 when she won a major. That’s kind of in the peak age range for women’s tennis ( Serena is the exception, that’s what makes her great). So her winning one was her peak. Andreescu and Kenin won in the last two years and are still top ten players, so are part of the same generation. Andreescu won her first major at the end of 2019, then injured her knee, then pandemic. Kenin won the last pre pandemic major, got to the French Open final and missed most of this year before Wimbledon with illness and injury. So their form hasn’t dropped off a cliff. Add those two in and it could be a fantastic time coming up for women’s tennis.eldanielfire wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:09 pmCould be. But in women's tennis there are so many false dawns, Ostapenko, Stephens, Kenin, Andreescu, etc who win one slam, have big things predicted and then don't repeat for years as their form drops off a cliff after a slam win. Some might grab a couple, but we haven't seen a great women's rivalry for a long time. Even the Sharapova-Serena one never really happened after Wimbledon 2004.
Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:48 pmTo be fair, Stephens was 24 when she won a major. That’s kind of in the peak age range for women’s tennis ( Serena is the exception, that’s what makes her great). So her winning one was her peak. Andreescu and Kenin won in the last two years and are still top ten players, so are part of the same generation. Andreescu won her first major at the end of 2019, then injured her knee, then pandemic. Kenin won the last pre pandemic major, got to the French Open final and missed most of this year before Wimbledon with illness and injury. So their form hasn’t dropped off a cliff. Add those two in and it could be a fantastic time coming up for women’s tennis.eldanielfire wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:09 pmCould be. But in women's tennis there are so many false dawns, Ostapenko, Stephens, Kenin, Andreescu, etc who win one slam, have big things predicted and then don't repeat for years as their form drops off a cliff after a slam win. Some might grab a couple, but we haven't seen a great women's rivalry for a long time. Even the Sharapova-Serena one never really happened after Wimbledon 2004.
Writing off people at 21 and 22 after they won majors at 20 and 21 is a pretty shit attitude tbh.
P.O.A.C.H !!!!PCPhil wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:49 amI realise and hope you are you are just having a go at ‘Morgan and co’ but I find this post like the one from Calculon above a bit personal. Why would she have to be ‘claimed’ to be British if she has lived here since she was 2 and it is the only country she has ever known as home. The topic should not even be fit for any discussion.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:18 am Born in Canada with a Romanian father and Chinese mother. Would be interesting to see if she'd arrived across the Channel whether Morgan and co would be so keen on claiming her as British. Especially if she was no good.