Re: 2020/21 Carling Currie Cup
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:17 pm
Should have, could have, would have...
Our Corvid-19 situations is very brittle. You only understand this if someone close to you get very sick from it.assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:02 am I do wish they would announce those Bok matches they were talking about a few weeks ago. Just to give this competition some meaning.
At the moment there is nothing tabled between the end of Currie Cup and the Lions tour. Still no official word on our Pro16 involvement which should start in Jan or Feb .
Oom, that is what happens when you only become a rugby fan in your 50's. We grew up with rugby, we had a rugby ball with us in the cot. We don't have to quote stats to show we support rugby.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:34 am Sadly Sards like a true Cape Crusaders running with the FleeWee trollers like AC who dont have a clue about this.
I get that. But life goes on and we need to plan for the future, especially with the recent news about vaccines.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:33 am Our Corvid-19 situations is very brittle. You only understand this if someone close to you get very sick from it.
I agree that the vaccine news is great, but what is the timeline on rolling it out? But yeah, setting dates will show that we are positive about actually going ahead with Internationals.assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:38 amI get that. But life goes on and we need to plan for the future, especially with the recent news about vaccines.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:33 am Our Corvid-19 situations is very brittle. You only understand this if someone close to you get very sick from it.
Life goes on and at this stage our government dont give Saru the assurances needed to plan ahead.assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:38 amI get that. But life goes on and we need to plan for the future, especially with the recent news about vaccines.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:33 am Our Corvid-19 situations is very brittle. You only understand this if someone close to you get very sick from it.
The irony.....yesterday Rassie was a tactical genius...Argentina smash the ABs and draw with the Aussies without us...now we go begging for money...I don't like being that guy.handyman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:37 amOom, that is what happens when you only become a rugby fan in your 50's. We grew up with rugby, we had a rugby ball with us in the cot. We don't have to quote stats to show we support rugby.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:34 am Sadly Sards like a true Cape Crusaders running with the FleeWee trollers like AC who dont have a clue about this.
just for interest sake#OurSharks won their first Currie Cup competition in 1990, and have since won the Currie Cup in 1992, 1995, 1996, 2008, 2010, 2013 and most recently in 2018. A total of 8 Currie Cup win
The irony to comment on rugby and you havent watch any since March?Sards wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:42 amThe irony.....yesterday Rassie was a tactical genius...Argentina smash the ABs and draw with the Aussies without us...now we go begging for money...I don't like being that guy.handyman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:37 amOom, that is what happens when you only become a rugby fan in your 50's. We grew up with rugby, we had a rugby ball with us in the cot. We don't have to quote stats to show we support rugby.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:34 am Sadly Sards like a true Cape Crusaders running with the FleeWee trollers like AC who dont have a clue about this.
I would have loved to have watched the boks beat the ABs....but tactically we increased our lead in the rankings without playing......get itOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:31 amThe irony to comment on rugby and you havent watch any since March?
Probably enough beef in that side to get past the Pumas, but it still looks disjointed. Quite a few new names on the bench. Not sure why they don't start Penxe at 15 and Nkosi at 14.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:07 pm Sharks team vs Pumas
15 Manie Libbok 14 Yaw Penxe 13 Jeremy Ward 12 Marius Louw 11 Madosh Tambwe 10 Curwin Bosch 9 Sanele Nohamba 8 Thembelani Boli 7 JJ van der Mescht 6 Dylan Richardson 5 Hyron Andrews 4 Ruben van Heerden 3 Thomas du Toit 2 Kerron van Vuuren 1 Oc Nche
Bench: 16 Dan Jooste, 17 Khwezi Mona, 18 Hanro Jacobs, 19 Zain Davids, 20 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 21 Cameron Wright, 22 Werner Kok, 23 Sbu Nkosi.
Libbok is kak, why don't they start Nkosi, Ward is a walking, talking penalty and card machine, Bosch is afraid to tackle, Van der Mescht out of position, Richardson shifted between hooker and open side, no beef in the locks and a few nobodies on the bench.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:07 pm Sharks team vs Pumas
15 Manie Libbok 14 Yaw Penxe 13 Jeremy Ward 12 Marius Louw 11 Madosh Tambwe 10 Curwin Bosch 9 Sanele Nohamba 8 Thembelani Boli 7 JJ van der Mescht 6 Dylan Richardson 5 Hyron Andrews 4 Ruben van Heerden 3 Thomas du Toit 2 Kerron van Vuuren 1 Oc Nche
Bench: 16 Dan Jooste, 17 Khwezi Mona, 18 Hanro Jacobs, 19 Zain Davids, 20 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 21 Cameron Wright, 22 Werner Kok, 23 Sbu Nkosi.
That's not saying much
I'll bite.handyman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:16 pm Libbok is kak, why don't they start Nkosi, Ward is a walking, talking penalty and card machine, Bosch is afraid to tackle, Van der Mescht out of position, Richardson shifted between hooker and open side, no beef in the locks and a few nobodies on the bench.
Other than that, great team
Valid points. IMO any rugby is better than no rugby, so to see posters on here moaning about the quality is very sad. Expected of some tho.assfly wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:10 amI'll bite.handyman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:16 pm Libbok is kak, why don't they start Nkosi, Ward is a walking, talking penalty and card machine, Bosch is afraid to tackle, Van der Mescht out of position, Richardson shifted between hooker and open side, no beef in the locks and a few nobodies on the bench.
Other than that, great team
Libbok is kak, nobody is going to dispute that. Poor signing, must have got in at a bargain price.
Ward - I keep hearing about the cards and penalties but yet to see this.
Bosch doesn't like tackling is old news. Yet he keeps winning MOTM awards. Interesting.
Van der Mescht hasn't totally impressed yet, worth giving him a run at flank
Richardson is a better flank than hooker from what I've seen this season.
Looks have been work-shy this season, but they were both in good form earlier this year.
Nothing wrong with giving a few newbies a run, we have to start somewhere.
Glad they're mixing it up a bit. We've been poor so at least we're trying things. This season is a write off anyway, so may as well prepare for next year. Whatever that means.
I wonder why he hasn't been given a chance at a team with some money and a few decent players?handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:21 amValid points. IMO any rugby is better than no rugby, so to see posters on here moaning about the quality is very sad. Expected of some tho.assfly wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:10 amI'll bite.handyman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:16 pm Libbok is kak, why don't they start Nkosi, Ward is a walking, talking penalty and card machine, Bosch is afraid to tackle, Van der Mescht out of position, Richardson shifted between hooker and open side, no beef in the locks and a few nobodies on the bench.
Other than that, great team
Libbok is kak, nobody is going to dispute that. Poor signing, must have got in at a bargain price.
Ward - I keep hearing about the cards and penalties but yet to see this.
Bosch doesn't like tackling is old news. Yet he keeps winning MOTM awards. Interesting.
Van der Mescht hasn't totally impressed yet, worth giving him a run at flank
Richardson is a better flank than hooker from what I've seen this season.
Looks have been work-shy this season, but they were both in good form earlier this year.
Nothing wrong with giving a few newbies a run, we have to start somewhere.
Glad they're mixing it up a bit. We've been poor so at least we're trying things. This season is a write off anyway, so may as well prepare for next year. Whatever that means.
On a sidenote, I see that Stonehouse is becoming very popular with his honesty and way of working with the media and his players with limited funds. Top, top man that.
Agree with all of that. Even though we know what Notshe can do I'm not convinced JJ at 7 is going to lead to anything, whereas improving game at lock and getting that scrum steady will lead to something permanent.handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:21 amValid points. IMO any rugby is better than no rugby, so to see posters on here moaning about the quality is very sad. Expected of some tho.assfly wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:10 am
I'll bite.
Libbok is kak, nobody is going to dispute that. Poor signing, must have got in at a bargain price.
Ward - I keep hearing about the cards and penalties but yet to see this.
Bosch doesn't like tackling is old news. Yet he keeps winning MOTM awards. Interesting.
Van der Mescht hasn't totally impressed yet, worth giving him a run at flank
Richardson is a better flank than hooker from what I've seen this season.
Looks have been work-shy this season, but they were both in good form earlier this year.
Nothing wrong with giving a few newbies a run, we have to start somewhere.
Glad they're mixing it up a bit. We've been poor so at least we're trying things. This season is a write off anyway, so may as well prepare for next year. Whatever that means.
On a sidenote, I see that Stonehouse is becoming very popular with his honesty and way of working with the media and his players with limited funds. Top, top man that.
Ward has a reputation. A hard tackling centre you dont want to have coming at you...Of course he will be feared and vilified...assfly wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:10 amI'll bite.handyman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:16 pm Libbok is kak, why don't they start Nkosi, Ward is a walking, talking penalty and card machine, Bosch is afraid to tackle, Van der Mescht out of position, Richardson shifted between hooker and open side, no beef in the locks and a few nobodies on the bench.
Other than that, great team
Libbok is kak, nobody is going to dispute that. Poor signing, must have got in at a bargain price.
Ward - I keep hearing about the cards and penalties but yet to see this.
Bosch doesn't like tackling is old news. Yet he keeps winning MOTM awards. Interesting.
Van der Mescht hasn't totally impressed yet, worth giving him a run at flank
Richardson is a better flank than hooker from what I've seen this season.
Looks have been work-shy this season, but they were both in good form earlier this year.
Nothing wrong with giving a few newbies a run, we have to start somewhere.
Glad they're mixing it up a bit. We've been poor so at least we're trying things. This season is a write off anyway, so may as well prepare for next year. Whatever that means.
I agree I'd rather this rugby rather than no rugby, but we have every right to moan. It has been poor.
Hawies is a very good coach. He did the hard yards at Free State, had big success at Maties. Saw some of his Maties coaching personnel at Cheetahs.TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:20 amAgree with all of that. Even though we know what Notshe can do I'm not convinced JJ at 7 is going to lead to anything, whereas improving game at lock and getting that scrum steady will lead to something permanent.handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:21 amValid points. IMO any rugby is better than no rugby, so to see posters on here moaning about the quality is very sad. Expected of some tho.assfly wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:10 am
I'll bite.
Libbok is kak, nobody is going to dispute that. Poor signing, must have got in at a bargain price.
Ward - I keep hearing about the cards and penalties but yet to see this.
Bosch doesn't like tackling is old news. Yet he keeps winning MOTM awards. Interesting.
Van der Mescht hasn't totally impressed yet, worth giving him a run at flank
Richardson is a better flank than hooker from what I've seen this season.
Looks have been work-shy this season, but they were both in good form earlier this year.
Nothing wrong with giving a few newbies a run, we have to start somewhere.
Glad they're mixing it up a bit. We've been poor so at least we're trying things. This season is a write off anyway, so may as well prepare for next year. Whatever that means.
On a sidenote, I see that Stonehouse is becoming very popular with his honesty and way of working with the media and his players with limited funds. Top, top man that.
Was surprised the Cheetahs didn't pick up Stonehouse, but he has been doing his good job there for a decade(?) now. I have to feel that there is something personal preventing him moving on to a better gig either locally or abroad. Even if it was taking a step back to be an assistant coach and biding for a chance.
I'm not sold on Hawies. Always rated him, but I think Currie Cup level is his peak. I think he was crazy to leave Maties, had a good career going there and very successful.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:28 amHawies is a very good coach. He did the hard yards at Free State, had big success at Maties. Saw some of his Maties coaching personnel at Cheetahs.TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:20 amAgree with all of that. Even though we know what Notshe can do I'm not convinced JJ at 7 is going to lead to anything, whereas improving game at lock and getting that scrum steady will lead to something permanent.handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:21 am
Valid points. IMO any rugby is better than no rugby, so to see posters on here moaning about the quality is very sad. Expected of some tho.
On a sidenote, I see that Stonehouse is becoming very popular with his honesty and way of working with the media and his players with limited funds. Top, top man that.
Was surprised the Cheetahs didn't pick up Stonehouse, but he has been doing his good job there for a decade(?) now. I have to feel that there is something personal preventing him moving on to a better gig either locally or abroad. Even if it was taking a step back to be an assistant coach and biding for a chance.
Won't swop him for Stonehouse
Kolisis is back. WP at full strength,!Date: Saturday, November 28
Venue: Newlands, Cape Town
Kick-off: 19.00 (17.00 GMT)
Referee: AJ Jacobs
Assistant referees: Cwengile Jadezweni, Divan Uys
TMO: Rasta Rasivhenge
Western Province: 15 Warrick Gelant, 14 Seabelo Senatla, 13 Dan du Plessis, 12 Rikus Pretorius, 11 Angelo Davids, 10 Damian Willemse, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Juarno Augustus, 7 Ernst van Rhyn, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 JD Schickerling, 4 Salmaaan Moerat, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Replacements (from): 16 Scarra Ntubeni, 17 Ali Vermaak, 18 Kwenzo Blose, 19 Neethling Fouche, 20 David Meihuizen, 21 Chris van Zyl, 22 Jaco Coetzee, 23 Marcel Theunissen, 24 Godlen Masimla, 25 Tim Swiel, 26 Ruhan Nel.
Bulls: 15 David Kriel, 14 Travis Ismaiel, 13 Stedman Gans, 12 Cornal Hendricks, 11 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 10 Chris Smith, 9 Ivan van Zyl, 8 Duane Vermeulen (captain), 7 Arno Botha, 6 Marco van Staden, 5 Ruan Nortje, 4 Walt Steenkamp, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Johan Grobbelaar, 1 Jacques van Rooyen.
Replacements: 16 Corniel Els, 17 Gerhard Steenekamp, 18 Marcel van der Merwe, 19 Sintu Manjezi, 20 Nizaam Carr, 21 Embrose Papier, 22 Clinton Swart, 23 Marco Jansen van Vuren.
Happy with that Stormers team. Up against the Bulls tho, so we're definitely the underdogs.Chilli wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:15 amKolisis is back. WP at full strength,!Date: Saturday, November 28
Venue: Newlands, Cape Town
Kick-off: 19.00 (17.00 GMT)
Referee: AJ Jacobs
Assistant referees: Cwengile Jadezweni, Divan Uys
TMO: Rasta Rasivhenge
Western Province: 15 Warrick Gelant, 14 Seabelo Senatla, 13 Dan du Plessis, 12 Rikus Pretorius, 11 Angelo Davids, 10 Damian Willemse, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Juarno Augustus, 7 Ernst van Rhyn, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 JD Schickerling, 4 Salmaaan Moerat, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Replacements (from): 16 Scarra Ntubeni, 17 Ali Vermaak, 18 Kwenzo Blose, 19 Neethling Fouche, 20 David Meihuizen, 21 Chris van Zyl, 22 Jaco Coetzee, 23 Marcel Theunissen, 24 Godlen Masimla, 25 Tim Swiel, 26 Ruhan Nel.
Bulls: 15 David Kriel, 14 Travis Ismaiel, 13 Stedman Gans, 12 Cornal Hendricks, 11 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 10 Chris Smith, 9 Ivan van Zyl, 8 Duane Vermeulen (captain), 7 Arno Botha, 6 Marco van Staden, 5 Ruan Nortje, 4 Walt Steenkamp, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Johan Grobbelaar, 1 Jacques van Rooyen.
Replacements: 16 Corniel Els, 17 Gerhard Steenekamp, 18 Marcel van der Merwe, 19 Sintu Manjezi, 20 Nizaam Carr, 21 Embrose Papier, 22 Clinton Swart, 23 Marco Jansen van Vuren.
I pity the Bulls.
WP by 43!
handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:26 amChilli wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:15 amKolisis is back. WP at full strength,!Date: Saturday, November 28
Venue: Newlands, Cape Town
Kick-off: 19.00 (17.00 GMT)
Referee: AJ Jacobs
Assistant referees: Cwengile Jadezweni, Divan Uys
TMO: Rasta Rasivhenge
Western Province: 15 Warrick Gelant, 14 Seabelo Senatla, 13 Dan du Plessis, 12 Rikus Pretorius, 11 Angelo Davids, 10 Damian Willemse, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Juarno Augustus, 7 Ernst van Rhyn, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 JD Schickerling, 4 Salmaaan Moerat, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Replacements (from): 16 Scarra Ntubeni, 17 Ali Vermaak, 18 Kwenzo Blose, 19 Neethling Fouche, 20 David Meihuizen, 21 Chris van Zyl, 22 Jaco Coetzee, 23 Marcel Theunissen, 24 Godlen Masimla, 25 Tim Swiel, 26 Ruhan Nel.
Bulls: 15 David Kriel, 14 Travis Ismaiel, 13 Stedman Gans, 12 Cornal Hendricks, 11 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 10 Chris Smith, 9 Ivan van Zyl, 8 Duane Vermeulen (captain), 7 Arno Botha, 6 Marco van Staden, 5 Ruan Nortje, 4 Walt Steenkamp, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Johan Grobbelaar, 1 Jacques van Rooyen.
Replacements: 16 Corniel Els, 17 Gerhard Steenekamp, 18 Marcel van der Merwe, 19 Sintu Manjezi, 20 Nizaam Carr, 21 Embrose Papier, 22 Clinton Swart, 23 Marco Jansen van Vuren.
I pity the Bulls.
WP by 43!
Happy with that Stormers team. Up against the Bulls tho, so we're definitely the underdogs.
Match of the weekend boys!
Petersen is a good player, but far too injury prone. We should get rid of him. Sell him to the saarkies and take Nkosi.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:06 pmNo , we still miss the 2019 rugby player of the year and Sergeal Petersen.
Bulls are settled , Bulls by 13
I like the Stellenberg laaitie on the wing. He improves every match, had a very good u21 tournament.handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:08 pmPetersen is a good player, but far too injury prone. We should get rid of him. Sell him to the saarkies and take Nkosi.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:06 pmNo , we still miss the 2019 rugby player of the year and Sergeal Petersen.
Bulls are settled , Bulls by 13
They're the best two teams in the competition in my opinion. The only thing that may level things will be games cancelled due to Covid.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:18 pm We are now halfway and you predict final? Still a lot of rugby to be played. NTvl and WP have the habit of breaking each other whenever they play.