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boere wors wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:51 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:42 am

boere wors wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:04 am I dont really get those covid cases, kolisi, pollard, RG, malherbe et al... if they are really down with symptoms, they surely cant be playing next saturday in the first test.

They tested positive after the first Georgian test. That was on 2 July. Think the isolating period is 10 days after been tested positive.

Ok, so most of them tested positive, but didnt develop symptoms. But a few have, Kolisi it seems from what has been said.

I think he or his wife had it before

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:04 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:42 am

boere wors wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:04 am I dont really get those covid cases, kolisi, pollard, RG, malherbe et al... if they are really down with symptoms, they surely cant be playing next saturday in the first test.

They tested positive after the first Georgian test. That was on 2 July. Think the isolating period is 10 days after been tested positive.

Don't know how it works if someone was vaccinated but here at work we've been told that if you test positive you need to quarantine for two weeks. 10 days isolation is only for when you were in contact with someone that tested positive.

I think it's still 10 days if you're positive, pretty sure we're allowed to return to work at that point regardless of vaccination status.

Edit: obvious this is a UK thing, ignore me

British and Irish Lions: Stuart Hogg (captain), 14 Josh Adams, 13 Elliot Daly, 12 Robbie Henshaw, 11 Duhan van der Merwe, 10 Marcus Smith, 9 Ali Price, 8 Jack Conan, 7 Hamish Watson, 6 Tadhg Beirne, 5 Jonny Hill, 4 Adam Beard, 3 Tadhg Furlong, 2 Luke Cowan-Dickie, 1 Rory Sutherland.
Replacements: 16 Jamie George, 17 Mako Vunipola, 18 Zander Fagerson, 19 Alun Wyn Jones, 20 Sam Simmonds, 21 Gareth Davies, 22 Chris Harris, 23 Louis Rees-Zammit.

WP:
15 Sergeal Petersen, 14 Seabelo Senatla, 13 Rikus Pretorius, 12 Dan du Plessis, 11 Edwill van der Merwe, 10 Tim Swiel, 9 Godlen Masimla, 8 Evan Roos, 7 Johan du Toit, 6 Nama Xaba, 5 JD Schickerling, 4 Ernst van Rhyn (captain), 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 JJ Kotze, 1 Leon Lyons.
Subs (from): 16 Andre-Hugo Venter, 17 Kwenzo Blose, 18 Sazi Sandi, 19 Justin Basson, 20 Marcel Theunissen, 21 Thomas Bursey, 22 Abner van Reenen, 23 Juan de Jongh, 24 Lee-Marvin Mazibuko, 25 Niel Otto, 26 Leolin Zas, 27 Cornel Smit.


Date: Saturday, July 17
Venue: Cape Town Stadium, Cape Town
Kick-off: 18.00 (17.00 BST; 16.00 GMT) (Blake do you see the difference?)
Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
Assistant referees: AJ Jacobs, Jaco Peyper
TMO: Marius van der Westhuizen

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:04 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:42 am

boere wors wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:04 am I dont really get those covid cases, kolisi, pollard, RG, malherbe et al... if they are really down with symptoms, they surely cant be playing next saturday in the first test.

They tested positive after the first Georgian test. That was on 2 July. Think the isolating period is 10 days after been tested positive.

Don't know how it works if someone was vaccinated but here at work we've been told that if you test positive you need to quarantine for two weeks. 10 days isolation is only for when you were in contact with someone that tested positive.

Thats why they can play on saturday. More then 2 weeks.

WP struggled with their defense since the start of the CC. JdJ was always solid on defense in midfield, Cornel Smith is also a big boy. Hope they get enough game time. Dunno what happened to de Wet. Thomas Bursey ? Where do he come from.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:21 am Where do he come from.

If you don't know then none of us will!

I really hope that Swiel wins the game for the WP.

Is it WP or Stormers playing? I really wish they'd decide on one or the other. It's very difficult to dislike two teams who are essentially the same team.

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:42 am Is it WP or Stormers playing? I really wish they'd decide on one or the other. It's very difficult to dislike two teams who are essentially the same team.

I love this site

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:21 am Where do he come from.

Openside wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:38 am

handyman wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:24 am

Openside wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:16 pm Haven’t read thread just finished watching it - some thoughts

1. Faf de Clerk was as clear a red as you will see, proper home town TMO

2. Not bad considering that was basically the boks

3. Delighted AWJ is back as Conor Murray shouldn’t be anywhere near the test team his box kicking was Taranaki girls U12 standard.

4. I think if they had showed an along the line angle LRZ would have been awarded a try.

5. Good to shut SA out for whole second half but they were tactically naive not taking scrums when SA down to 13

You say naive, I say braindead.

Fair enough - another nail on Conor Murray’s coffin he and Farrell were spectacularly bad…

Can’t help feeling some of the ‘physicality’ on display could be on the verge of spilling over!!

I think cards is going to play a big role in the tests.

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:42 am Is it WP or Stormers playing? I really wish they'd decide on one or the other. It's very difficult to dislike two teams who are essentially the same team.

They call it the Stormers but me and you know all the teams are not PRO16 strength, they are below CC strength, specially the Sharks and Stormers. If only WP could have the likes of Kitshoff, Bongi, Malherbe, Orie, PSdT, Willemse, Jankies for saturday.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:19 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:42 am Is it WP or Stormers playing? I really wish they'd decide on one or the other. It's very difficult to dislike two teams who are essentially the same team.

They call it the Stormers but me and you know all the teams are not PRO16 strength, they are below CC strength, specially the Sharks and Stormers. If only WP could have the likes of Kitshoff, Bongi, Malherbe, Orie, PSdT, Willemse, Jankies for saturday.

Let's hope the Stormers can pull a surprise on the Lions the way the Sharks did in the first half of the 2nd game, without the red card.

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:28 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:19 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:42 am Is it WP or Stormers playing? I really wish they'd decide on one or the other. It's very difficult to dislike two teams who are essentially the same team.

They call it the Stormers but me and you know all the teams are not PRO16 strength, they are below CC strength, specially the Sharks and Stormers. If only WP could have the likes of Kitshoff, Bongi, Malherbe, Orie, PSdT, Willemse, Jankies for saturday.

Let's hope the Stormers can pull a surprise on the Lions the way the Sharks did in the first half of the 2nd game, without the red card.

Yes but that wont help the Springboks cause.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:39 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:28 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:19 pm
They call it the Stormers but me and you know all the teams are not PRO16 strength, they are below CC strength, specially the Sharks and Stormers. If only WP could have the likes of Kitshoff, Bongi, Malherbe, Orie, PSdT, Willemse, Jankies for saturday.

Let's hope the Stormers can pull a surprise on the Lions the way the Sharks did in the first half of the 2nd game, without the red card.

Yes but that wont help the Springboks cause.

Great patriotism! Lose the game to help the Boks

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:39 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:28 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:19 pm
They call it the Stormers but me and you know all the teams are not PRO16 strength, they are below CC strength, specially the Sharks and Stormers. If only WP could have the likes of Kitshoff, Bongi, Malherbe, Orie, PSdT, Willemse, Jankies for saturday.

Let's hope the Stormers can pull a surprise on the Lions the way the Sharks did in the first half of the 2nd game, without the red card.

Yes but that wont help the Springboks cause.

Great patriotism! Lose the game to help the Boks

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:33 am

I saw that described as a thirteen year old in his first mosh pit.

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:54 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:33 am

I saw that described as a thirteen year old in his first mosh pit.

thats hilarious, never seen that footage

boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:35 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:54 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:33 am

I saw that described as a thirteen year old in his first mosh pit.

thats hilarious, never seen that footage

Elma is n Gimmie. Sy ken van rugby.

Is Aalwyn and Wyn Jones family related?

One is bitter , the other one dry.

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:54 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:33 am

I saw that described as a thirteen year old in his first mosh pit.

brilliant

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:39 am Is Aalwyn and Wyn Jones family related?

One is bitter , the other one dry.

His forenames are "Alun Wyn". No, he is no relation of Wyn; they share the surname Jones, but that is a very common Welsh surname.

Mahoney wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:11 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:39 am Is Aalwyn and Wyn Jones family related?

One is bitter , the other one dry.

His forenames are "Alun Wyn". No, he is no relation of Wyn; they share the surname Jones, but that is a very common Welsh surname.

Cheers. Aalwyn (aloe) & Wyn (wine) is afrikaans words.

Alwyn is also an afrikaanse name

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:45 am

Mahoney wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:11 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:39 am Is Aalwyn and Wyn Jones family related?

One is bitter , the other one dry.

His forenames are "Alun Wyn". No, he is no relation of Wyn; they share the surname Jones, but that is a very common Welsh surname.

Cheers. Aalwyn (aloe) & Wyn (wine) is afrikaans words.

Alwyn is also an afrikaanse name

The Lions Captain is a Dutchman?

Rassie's at it too

Rassie

Do your homework Lions.

handyman wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:31 pm Rassie

Do your homework Lions.

Maybe Gatland should watch chasing the sun. Detail is his name.

Can someone teach Rassie how to upload a video properly.

The people in my office thought I was having a stroke watching those.

Chilli wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:33 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:45 am

Mahoney wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:11 am

His forenames are "Alun Wyn". No, he is no relation of Wyn; they share the surname Jones, but that is a very common Welsh surname.

Cheers. Aalwyn (aloe) & Wyn (wine) is afrikaans words.

Alwyn is also an afrikaanse name

The Lions Captain is a Dutchman?

Seems Cymru and Afrikaans is close.

We like Tom Jones.

These test series are always so much more fun when the coaches hate each other.

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:23 pm Rassie's at it too

Convinced me - the Lions will promise not to pick Farrell and South Africa promise not to pick Faf.

Deal.

Saturday's clash at Cape Town Stadium is scheduled for 13:00.

Teams:

SA 'A'

15 Aphelele Fassi, 14 Yaw Penxe, 13 Wandisile Simelane, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Rosko Specman, 10 Elton Jantjies (captain), 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Kwagga Smith, 7 Rynhardt Elstadt, 6 Marco van Staden, 5 Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg, 4 Jean-Luc du Preez, 3 Vincent Koch, 2 Joseph Dweba, 1 Coenie Oosthuizen

Substitutes: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Thomas du Toit, 18 Wilco Louw, 19 Jasper Wiese, 20 Sanele Nohamba, 21 Sbu Nkosi, 22 Jesse Kriel, 23 Damian Willemse, 24 Lizo Gqoboka

Bulls

15 FC du Plessis, 14 Marco Jansen van Vuren, 13 Harold Vorster, 12 Cornal Hendricks, 11 Stravino Jacobs, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Zak Burger, 8 WJ Steenkamp, 7 Muller Uys, 6 Nizaam Carr (captain), 5 Ruan Nortje, 4 Walt Steenkamp, 3 Jacques van Rooyen, 2 Schalk Erasmus, 1 Simphiwe Matanzima

Substitutes: 16 Johan Grobbelaar, 17 Gerhard Steenekamp, 18 Mornay Smith, 19 Janko Swanepoel, 20 Arno Botha, 21 Keagan Johannes, 22 Chris Smith, 23 David Kriel

Weird looking Bok team. But nice to see a few other players get a run. Pity Dan du Preez isn't fit (I assume). Let's hope the Bulls give them a good opposition.

Saturday’s match will start at 1pm, followed by the Stormers and Lions at 6pm.

Teams For Cape Town Stadium

South Africa A: 15 Aphelele Fassi 14 Yaw Penxe 13 Wandisile Simelane 12 Damian de Allende 11 Rosko Specman 10 Elton Jantjies (captain) 9 Cobus Reinach 8 Kwagga Smith 7 Rynhardt Elstadt 6 Marco van Staden 5 Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg 4 Jean-Luc du Preez 3 Vincent Koch 2 Joseph Dweba 1 Coenie Oosthuizen.

Bench: 16 Fez Mbatha 17 Thomas du Toit 18 Wilco Louw 19 Jasper Wiese 20 Sanele Nohamba 21 Sbu Nkosi 22 Jesse Kriel 23 Damian Willemse 24 Lizo Gqoboka.

Bulls: 15 FC du Plessis 14 Marco Jansen van Vuren 13 Harold Vorster 12 Cornal Hendricks 11 Stravino Jacobs 10 Johan Goosen 9 Zak Burger 8 WJ Steenkamp 7 Muller Uys 6 Nizaam Carr (captain) 5 Ruan Nortje 4 Walt Steenkamp 3 Jacques van Rooyen 2 Schalk Erasmus 1 Simphiwe Matanzima.

Bench: 16 Johan Grobbelaar 17 Gerhard Steenekamp 18 Mornay Smith 19 Janko Swanepoel 20 Arno Botha 21 Keagan Johannes 22 Chris Smith 23 David Kriel.

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:33 pm Weird looking Bok team. But nice to see a few other players get a run. Pity Dan du Preez isn't fit (I assume). Let's hope the Bulls give them a good opposition.

Ja, would have liked to see Dan as well, especially as kwagga and jasper havent really convinced as backup 8. But looking forward to jean luc at 4. Played there mostly for sale recently and was very good

handyman wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:31 pm Rassie

Do your homework Lions.

It's hilarious that Rassie is keeping tabs on the Irish examiner.

boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:42 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:33 pm Weird looking Bok team. But nice to see a few other players get a run. Pity Dan du Preez isn't fit (I assume). Let's hope the Bulls give them a good opposition.

Ja, would have liked to see Dan as well, especially as kwagga and jasper havent really convinced as backup 8. But looking forward to jean luc at 4. Played there mostly for sale recently and was very good

If Du Preez twins are fit soon, hopefully we never see Elstadt again.

boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:42 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:33 pm Weird looking Bok team. But nice to see a few other players get a run. Pity Dan du Preez isn't fit (I assume). Let's hope the Bulls give them a good opposition.

Ja, would have liked to see Dan as well, especially as kwagga and jasper havent really convinced as backup 8. But looking forward to jean luc at 4. Played there mostly for sale recently and was very good

No Kolisi or fat Franse, Mapimpi

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:09 pm

boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:42 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:33 pm Weird looking Bok team. But nice to see a few other players get a run. Pity Dan du Preez isn't fit (I assume). Let's hope the Bulls give them a good opposition.

Ja, would have liked to see Dan as well, especially as kwagga and jasper havent really convinced as backup 8. But looking forward to jean luc at 4. Played there mostly for sale recently and was very good

If Du Preez twins are fit soon, hopefully we never see Elstadt again.

Yes, both of them are so much better than Elstadt, and especially Jean Luc would be a perfect bench option, covers everything from 4 to 8

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:10 pm

boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:42 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:33 pm Weird looking Bok team. But nice to see a few other players get a run. Pity Dan du Preez isn't fit (I assume). Let's hope the Bulls give them a good opposition.

Ja, would have liked to see Dan as well, especially as kwagga and jasper havent really convinced as backup 8. But looking forward to jean luc at 4. Played there mostly for sale recently and was very good

No Kolisi or fat Franse, Mapimpi

I assume some of them must have developed covid symptoms.
Plus Pollard, Lood, RG, Bongi...
Not sure if all of them will be available in time for the tests