NPR

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:02 pm England are currently bona fide muck coupled with Jaco was always going to make for a happy French night. Dupont being the anointed one when he has been fairly average makes me happy in the knowledge they will crash and burn in the world cup if the refs can block out the noise. Obviously Jaco can't but proper refs

Down a notch old boy

Englands final points diff is +5, compared with France +68, & Ireland +105

If that's doesn't tell you how toothless Englands attack is, nothing will

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:02 pm England are currently bona fide muck coupled with Jaco was always going to make for a happy French night. Dupont being the anointed one when he has been fairly average makes me happy in the knowledge they will crash and burn in the world cup if the refs can block out the noise. Obviously Jaco can't but proper refs

Kerrist, you are full of sh*t. England should have seen a red and a yellow and they would have been hammered then. Peyper and his crony TMO kept England in the game.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:06 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:04 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:02 pm England are currently bona fide muck coupled with Jaco was always going to make for a happy French night. Dupont being the anointed one when he has been fairly average makes me happy in the knowledge they will crash and burn in the world cup if the refs can block out the noise. Obviously Jaco can't but proper refs

Down a notch old boy

I genuinely think France are massively overrated. Ireland are still fits and starts but are better than France at full tilt

I mean, they’ve literally beaten everyone this year, including Ireland, so how do you expect them to be rated?

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:06 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:04 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:02 pm England are currently bona fide muck coupled with Jaco was always going to make for a happy French night. Dupont being the anointed one when he has been fairly average makes me happy in the knowledge they will crash and burn in the world cup if the refs can block out the noise. Obviously Jaco can't but proper refs

Down a notch old boy

I genuinely think France are massively overrated. Ireland are still fits and starts but are better than France at full tilt

Ah, he's a bogtrotter.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:06 pm I genuinely think France are massively overrated. Ireland are still fits and starts but are better than France at full tilt

Keep it up. Your paucity of attacking options saw you struggle against 13 man Italy and 14 man England until both sides finally ran out of steam.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:10 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:06 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:04 pm

Down a notch old boy

I genuinely think France are massively overrated. Ireland are still fits and starts but are better than France at full tilt

Ah, he's a bogtrotter.

It's EverReady from the other place. Just trying to get a rise out of people.

Is Dayglo coked up?

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:15 pm Is Dayglo coked up?

Again?

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:11 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:06 pm I genuinely think France are massively overrated. Ireland are still fits and starts but are better than France at full tilt

Keep it up. Your paucity of attacking options saw you struggle against 13 man Italy and 14 man England until both sides finally ran out of steam.

And our points difference is still 37 points better than Frances, despite us playing the two best sides away, while you met them at home .....

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:16 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:11 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:06 pm I genuinely think France are massively overrated. Ireland are still fits and starts but are better than France at full tilt

Keep it up. Your paucity of attacking options saw you struggle against 13 man Italy and 14 man England until both sides finally ran out of steam.

And our points difference is still 37 points better than Frances, despite us playing the two best sides away, while you met them at home .....

What part of playing 13 and 14 men are you finding hard to grasp? Congrats on your Triple Crown.

The Irish

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:18 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:10 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:06 pm

I genuinely think France are massively overrated. Ireland are still fits and starts but are better than France at full tilt

I mean, they’ve literally beaten everyone this year, including Ireland, so how do you expect them to be rated?

8-9 out of 10 max

Here did you see the Josh Adams is a hero handing over his medal video. I don't see any fucking medal change hands. I think he just shakes his hand and fucks off all launchbury stylie

Call it 9.2 and we move on.

Agree about Adams, I even thought I spotted one of those cheeky little pinches on the back of the lads arm as he pretended to congratulate him

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:16 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:15 pm Is Dayglo coked up?

Again?

I’m serious, he’s touching his nose and having a big sniff every time they cut to him - see the bit where he congratulated Edwards

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:23 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:16 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:15 pm Is Dayglo coked up?

Again?

I’m serious, he’s touching his nose and having a big sniff every time they cut to him - see the bit where he congratulated Edwards

Remember Dallaglio's Dealer on PR....?

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:18 pmThe Irish

Hey, I've no problem with Frances Grand Slam, they're well worth it this year. But the idea that there's been a huge gap between their performance & Irelands is laughable.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:29 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:18 pmThe Irish

Hey, I've no problem with Frances Grand Slam, they're well worth it this year. But the idea that there's been a huge gap between their performance & Irelands is laughable.

I think there is a gap, maybe not huge but a gap nonetheless.

France were the best side followed by Ireland, then Scotland, England and Wales were all close, maybe Scotland hanging on there.

Italy had a terrific win today, what a try, what a result

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:29 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:18 pmThe Irish

Hey, I've no problem with Frances Grand Slam, they're well worth it this year. But the idea that there's been a huge gap between their performance & Irelands is laughable.

Decent gap tbf

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:00 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:29 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:18 pmThe Irish

Hey, I've no problem with Frances Grand Slam, they're well worth it this year. But the idea that there's been a huge gap between their performance & Irelands is laughable.

Decent gap tbf

We can argue the toss over the size of the gap, but the fact is that France faced its two biggest challengers at home, & Ireland faced them away; & Ireland had a considerably better points difference across the whole series.

I'm happy enough that this time around it's France that could end up having to deal with peaking a year too early.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:14 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:00 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:29 pm

Hey, I've no problem with Frances Grand Slam, they're well worth it this year. But the idea that there's been a huge gap between their performance & Irelands is laughable.

Decent gap tbf

We can argue the toss over the size of the gap, but the fact is that France faced its two biggest challengers at home, & Ireland faced them away; & Ireland had a considerably better points difference across the whole series.

I'm happy enough that this time around it's France that could end up having to deal with peaking a year too early.

The thing about France is that I never got the impression they were peaking, but they have grown a hard edge mentally. There is a lot more to come from this team.

I think Jalibert will make a difference for France.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:14 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:00 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:29 pm

Hey, I've no problem with Frances Grand Slam, they're well worth it this year. But the idea that there's been a huge gap between their performance & Irelands is laughable.

Decent gap tbf

We can argue the toss over the size of the gap, but the fact is that France faced its two biggest challengers at home, & Ireland faced them away; & Ireland had a considerably better points difference across the whole series.

I'm happy enough that this time around it's France that could end up having to deal with peaking a year too early.

France looked a superior team to Ireland when they played each other and while Ireland scored more points against England they did so against 14 for pretty much the entire match and looked significantly worse than France for a big chunk of the game. Sorry, I don't really have them at the same level - France are a different class.

Ireland the next best, obviously.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:02 pm England are currently bona fide muck coupled with Jaco was always going to make for a happy French night. Dupont being the anointed one when he has been fairly average makes me happy in the knowledge they will crash and burn in the world cup if the refs can block out the noise. Obviously Jaco can't but proper refs

Bitterness is sweet at times.

French set piece much improvred from last week.
I was surprised at how poor England were at protecting their own ball and played time and time again in French hands.

The French passing wasn't as good as I would have hoped for, leading to too many knock on. There was something that did stick less than in other games there.

France remain pretty good at taking the points when they get opportunities though. This is their strength.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:14 pm I'm happy enough that this time around it's France that could end up having to deal with peaking a year too early.

Good luck with that. This France side is nowhere near its peak: I noticed Bernol had several performances in the 6s last night.

There are some weaknesses too
- Tighthead remains a problem. Atonio adds bulk at scrum time but is a liability around the park
- Lineout option appears to be Woki.......... or Woki......... who is not really a lock anyway
- Jelonch is France's Suitcase but that is easily fixed with plenty of flankers better than him which would also provide a 2nd jumping option
- The biggest problem remains the inability for the backs to capitalise on the forwards' efforts and that all stems from 10. Again, fixable with Jalibert (if ever fit) and Racing's Gibert looks like he might be the smartest thinking FH in France. It doesn't need a magician at 10: just someone who does the basics and takes the right options.
- FB. France's Achilles since Sadourny. Jaminet is in the side because he can kick dead ball (usually) and Ntamack cannot. He looks permanently vulnerable under the high ball.

18 handling errors last night too. I suspect more than the entire tournament and possibly some reflection of the pressure of expectation.

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:28 pm French set piece much improvred from last week.
I was surprised at how poor England were at protecting their own ball and played time and time again in French hands.

The French passing wasn't as good as I would have hoped for, leading to too many knock on. There was something that did stick less than in other games there.

France remain pretty good at taking the points when they get opportunities though. This is their strength.

It’s one of the reasons I find youngs so frustrating to watch; he seems oblivious to the fact that he needs to avoid passing to unsupported forwards. I don’t know whether it’s just my youngs prejudice, but I always feel we get pinged for getting isolated and ‘holding on’ more when he’s playing.

Youngs is just so utterly dire at everything he does, he was brought in for his kicking game, well that went well didn't it Basically everything he touches in an England shirt turns to shit

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:28 pm French set piece much improvred from last week.
I was surprised at how poor England were at protecting their own ball and played time and time again in French hands.

The French passing wasn't as good as I would have hoped for, leading to too many knock on. There was something that did stick less than in other games there.

France remain pretty good at taking the points when they get opportunities though. This is their strength.

Pick a succession of 5.5s and a 7 whose job is to do the tight 5's tackling and expect to be overwhelmed.

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:25 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:02 pm England are currently bona fide muck coupled with Jaco was always going to make for a happy French night. Dupont being the anointed one when he has been fairly average makes me happy in the knowledge they will crash and burn in the world cup if the refs can block out the noise. Obviously Jaco can't but proper refs

Bitterness is sweet at times.

You're an awful turncoat. Made a thread calling us the best in the galaxy yesterday and today you've turned on us.

I'm shocked and appalled at your perfidious gallicness.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:10 am

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:25 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:02 pm England are currently bona fide muck coupled with Jaco was always going to make for a happy French night. Dupont being the anointed one when he has been fairly average makes me happy in the knowledge they will crash and burn in the world cup if the refs can block out the noise. Obviously Jaco can't but proper refs

Bitterness is sweet at times.

You're an awful turncoat. Made a thread calling us the best in the galaxy yesterday and today you've turned on us.

I'm shocked and appalled at your perfidious gallicness.

I am turning against EnergiseR2 for his bitter post.

I do believe (and hope) that every Irish supporter isn't like him.

(By the way I only found out he was Irish after posting my response to him. I thought he was English by the tone of his post - though English fans on here have been gracious).

ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:10 am Youngs is just so utterly dire at everything he does, he was brought in for his kicking game, well that went well didn't it Basically everything he touches in an England shirt turns to shit

His continual selections alone is grounds for Jones to be booted. Slow ball = no ball. Smith was screwed playing outside that.

From the whole tournament, I would say that Baille, Marchand, Cros, Aldritt, Dupont, Fickou and Villere are "Team of the 6 Nations" material for their consistent good performances.

Penaud and Danty are not far.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:36 pm

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:09 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:10 am

You're an awful turncoat. Made a thread calling us the best in the galaxy yesterday and today you've turned on us.

I'm shocked and appalled at your perfidious gallicness.

I am turning against EnergiseR2 for his bitter post.

I do believe (and hope) that every Irish supporter isn't like him.

(By the way I only found out he was Irish after posting my response to him. I thought he was English by the tone of his post - though English fans on here have been gracious).

This all started when you robbed us of the next World Cup. Nobody wants to go to France and are being made go there by cash money types who lack passion. The consistently top rated most shit tourist attraction in the world is the Mona Lisa. What does that tell us? A lot is what it tells us and I am going to shout it from the roof tops as I will not be cowed

Are you Dozy in disguise?

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:25 pm This game suits Eddie Jones’ MO pretty perfectly.

Our pack should be able to take them on, Wales showed they can be vulnerable at the lineout as well so would expect us to compete for everything and try and deny them set piece ball.
Tries will likely have to come from well executed set moves, again, Eddie’s speciality.
Then we’ll see if they have the bottle and what the crowd do. If they are potentially the second NH team to win a World Cup they’ve got at least one more jib of a GS in them. Looking forward to it as I’d love to beat them but equally do not begrudge them the title at all

I’m not a bully normally but only for you

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:05 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:25 pm This game suits Eddie Jones’ MO pretty perfectly.

Our pack should be able to take them on, Wales showed they can be vulnerable at the lineout as well so would expect us to compete for everything and try and deny them set piece ball.
Tries will likely have to come from well executed set moves, again, Eddie’s speciality.
Then we’ll see if they have the bottle and what the crowd do. If they are potentially the second NH team to win a World Cup they’ve got at least one more jib of a GS in them. Looking forward to it as I’d love to beat them but equally do not begrudge them the title at all

I’m not a bully normally but only for you

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Oh fuck off.

I don’t fully recall how I spent my Sunday after Super Saturday 2016 but I’m fairly sure I wasn’t doing this

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:09 pm
I am turning against EnergiseR2 for his bitter post.

I do believe (and hope) that every Irish supporter isn't like him.

(By the way I only found out he was Irish after posting my response to him. I thought he was English by the tone of his post - though English fans on here have been gracious).

He's from Leinster so can see where that misunderstanding came from.

U20 on at the moment.

English forwards getting roughed up in the scrums.

Weather looks manky too; I'm not expecting a classic

Kerrist, if you think Itoje is an annoying, yapping clapping clown, this Eng U20 has a pack full of them.

Maybe less noise until you are winning lads, eh?

Something quite old school about this game - frenetic, dropped balls everywhere, real threat of a scrap

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:19 pm English forwards getting roughed up in the scrums.

Weather looks manky too; I'm not expecting a classic

Pity they chose one of the worst pitches in France in the pouring rain for this one. Totally nullifies France's attack too.