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Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:53 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:51 pm

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:43 pm



"Same level" conversations shouldn't have any difficulty differentiating between professional level and an amateur or semi-pro level though should they.

Glasgow select their A team from players on their books, they've included full Internationals in recent games.

Look it's wrong, everyone knows it, but as long as others are gaming it then why shouldn't Glasgow?

Nobody has taken the piss quite like this before.

Isn't it great?

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:57 pm

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:53 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:51 pm


Glasgow select their A team from players on their books, they've included full Internationals in recent games.

Look it's wrong, everyone knows it, but as long as others are gaming it then why shouldn't Glasgow?

Nobody has taken the piss quite like this before.

Isn't it great?

Well, I didn't start a specific separate thread about it. Saracens/Farrell still win even when you think you win.

Btw, Tom Jordan hasn't played at all in the "Super 6 Series" all season. What a surprise.

https://all.rugby/player/tom-jordan

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 1:20 pm Actually he was roundly criticised by all and sundry on the URC that, including by his own compatriots.

"All and sundry" - really?

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 3:00 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:57 pm

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:53 pm


Nobody has taken the piss quite like this before.

Isn't it great?

Well, I didn't start a specific separate thread about it. Saracens/Farrell still win even when you think you win.

Btw, Tom Jordan hasn't played at all in the "Super 6 Series" all season. What a surprise.

https://all.rugby/player/tom-jordan

I don't think you understand the structure of the Super Six, hardly surprising as it's all new to us too.

Glasgow and Edinburgh A only just started to compete in a version of it in recent months, Duncan Weir and Ollie Kebble are two full internationals who have played for Glasgow A in the games.


Btw, on the starting the thread thing, I think you're being a bit thin-skinned.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:53 pm
Nobody has taken the piss quite like this before.

Indeed. So hopefully this will finally get the admins to pull their fingers out and stop it happening at all in future. If so then I applaud Glasgow for helping to fix the problem.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:57 pm

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:53 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:51 pm


Glasgow select their A team from players on their books, they've included full Internationals in recent games.

Look it's wrong, everyone knows it, but as long as others are gaming it then why shouldn't Glasgow?

Nobody has taken the piss quite like this before.

Isn't it great?

To be fair, it wasfirst known as the Martin Johnson suspension gambit!!

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 3:13 pm Btw, on the starting the thread thing, I think you're being a bit thin-skinned.

Not at all, I'm merely applying a tiny bit of pushback and balance against the anti-Farrell seethe you get from people in here who don't even have a dog in the fight but still actually start threads dedicated to slagging him off...

Now, THAT is thin-skinned.

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 3:23 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:57 pm

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:53 pm


Nobody has taken the piss quite like this before.

Isn't it great?

To be fair, it wasfirst known as the Martin Johnson suspension gambit!!

The RFU didn't list a couple of games for Nuneaton in the Green King Merit Table though did they?!

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 3:26 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 3:23 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:57 pm


Isn't it great?

To be fair, it wasfirst known as the Martin Johnson suspension gambit!!

The RFU didn't list a couple of games for Nuneaton in the Green King Merit Table though did they?!

Loopholes are their to be exploited until the powers that be close them.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 3:25 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 3:13 pm Btw, on the starting the thread thing, I think you're being a bit thin-skinned.

Not at all, I'm merely applying a tiny bit of pushback and balance against the anti-Farrell seethe you get from people in here who don't even have a dog in the fight but still actually start threads dedicated to slagging him off...

Now, THAT is thin-skinned.

From what I can see an All Black fan started a thread on a topical issue regarding a tackle.

Several people have said that it's shame that the tackler was Farrell, presumably because that comes with baggage, people take it personally and a sensible conversation would be very difficult as a result, as has been the case.

My own target on this thread has been the absurdity of the disciplinary panel decisions which we see far too often.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 3:08 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 1:20 pm Actually he was roundly criticised by all and sundry on the URC that, including by his own compatriots.

"All and sundry" - really?

You are very weird.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 3:25 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 3:13 pm Btw, on the starting the thread thing, I think you're being a bit thin-skinned.

Not at all, I'm merely applying a tiny bit of pushback and balance against the anti-Farrell seethe you get from people in here who don't even have a dog in the fight but still actually start threads dedicated to slagging him off...

Now, THAT is thin-skinned.

Of course he's thin skinned, he's a Sarries fan.

Hes not capable of recognising the plastic wide boy money model his club is based on and the damage it's done to English rugby. It's the same blind spot that doesn't let him recognise that Farrell takes cheap shots.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:15 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 1:33 pm The worst part of it is using games he probably wouldn't have been involved with to play out the suspension.

It's a shite state of affairs and no one should be allowed to do this, but as long as they are, should Glasgow be the one team who don't?

and whilst we're on it, this is the one tackle red card from 31 across the URC, Challenge Cup and Premiership that was assessed as being top level entry.
It was a bad tackle, but not any worse than has happened elsewhere.

Saracens have never used matches playing in semi-pro rugby competitions below the Premiership to count as matches in lieu of penalties for any of their players. Any of them.

Well if there's one team who wouldn't bend the rules...

But really? They've never used even a pre season friendly?

Place your bets on how long?

Entry is 6 weeks. They knocked 2 weeks off last time because he managed not to eat all the biscuits at the hearing or swear at the panel, even though they acknowledged he was a recidivisit. Because his previous ban pre-dated the tackle school nonsense he got to knock off another week for that.

I suspect 4 again, but it should be the maximum available. Saying you're sorry and not behaving like a prick during the hearing shouldn't count for anything when you're up before the beak for the second time in a year and fourth time overall for the same offence.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:26 am Place your bets on how long?

Whatever fudge it takes to minimise his ban. The irony is by getting him back early, he destroys Eng's chances of doing anything.

I'll go with 5, expect loads of pictures of visiting dying orphans and stroking stray puppies.

He will miss one pool game in the RWC. So whatever it is until then.

I think that’s 4 weeks.

Interestingly the first game is the key one. Argentina

The video for anyone who hasn't seen it.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:26 am Place your bets on how long?

I think 5 weeks is about right.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:52 am He will miss one pool game in the RWC. So whatever it is until then.

I think that’s 4 weeks.

Interestingly the first game is the key one. Argentina

The weeks take into account the presence of a fixture, so with 2 warm up games remaining a 3 week ban is really 3 matches, i.e. missing the warm-ups and the first group game, 4 weeks/matches would be missing two group fixtures. Thus the hope for 6 week ban that with aggravating factors goes up to 8-10 weeks.

ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:46 am I'll go with 5, expect loads of pictures of visiting dying orphans and stroking stray puppies.

If they told him to stroke a puppy he'd probably kick it away instead

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:52 am He will miss one pool game in the RWC. So whatever it is until then.

I think that’s 4 weeks.

Interestingly the first game is the key one. Argentina

How so? Both sides have auto qualification from that joke group.

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:28 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:46 am I'll go with 5, expect loads of pictures of visiting dying orphans and stroking stray puppies.

If they told him to stroke a puppy he'd probably kick it away instead

A post rugby career as a consultant to West Ham awaits.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:32 pm

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:52 am He will miss one pool game in the RWC. So whatever it is until then.

I think that’s 4 weeks.

Interestingly the first game is the key one. Argentina

How so? Both sides have auto qualification from that joke group.

Not if England unexpectedly lose to Samoa

SaintK wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:48 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:32 pm

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:52 am He will miss one pool game in the RWC. So whatever it is until then.

I think that’s 4 weeks.

Interestingly the first game is the key one. Argentina

How so? Both sides have auto qualification from that joke group.

Not if England unexpectedly lose to Samoa

After the last two games, "unexpectedly" is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence.

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:53 pm

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:32 pm

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:55 pm

Pretty sure Coleman has had the same number of bans for red card worthy offences as Farrell (2)

Farrell got his only red card 30 months ago. And even the most hate-filled Farrell abuser must agree that the Farrell tackle was far less serious than the recent Coleman red card tackle was.

Sure, but he was also cited and banned for the Robson hit prior to that, as it was judged to have been a red card offence.

So two all. Soon to be 3 - 2 to Faz.

4 -2

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:58 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:48 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:32 pm
How so? Both sides have auto qualification from that joke group.

Not if England unexpectedly lose to Samoa

After the last two games, "unexpectedly" is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence.

Quite

You know things have got bad when Kawazaki isn’t on this thread banging on about ‘how hard done by/misunderstood Owen is’

He’s not exactly showing any remorse here.

That presumably won’t help him if he tries the deep regret act at the citing.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:32 pm He’s not exactly showing any remorse here.

That presumably won’t help him if he tries the deep regret act at the citing.

As ever, Dan Biggar can fuck right off out of it.

I'm not a Biggar fan, but seeing as they're not 'allowed' punch-ups any more, it's the least Farrell should have got in the moment. That he responds so angrily and aggressively despite his lazy, if not deliberate, high shot says a lot to me about his attitude. So much for 'tackle school', eh?

Niegs wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:48 pm I'm not a Biggar fan, but seeing as they're not 'allowed' punch-ups any more, it's the least Farrell should have got in the moment. That he responds so angrily and aggressively despite his lazy, if not deliberate, high shot says a lot to me about his attitude. So much for 'tackle school', eh?

Loved it from Biggar... someone needs to twat Farrell... he's a delinquent thug...

Spoken like someone who's not looked too closely at how Biggar plays his rugby. He's hardly squeaky clean and has gotten away with plenty of pretty awful tackles and cheap shots himself (and the occasional bit of play acting for the ref). Let's not whitewash him just because of who he's needling.

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:52 pm

Niegs wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:48 pm I'm not a Biggar fan, but seeing as they're not 'allowed' punch-ups any more, it's the least Farrell should have got in the moment. That he responds so angrily and aggressively despite his lazy, if not deliberate, high shot says a lot to me about his attitude. So much for 'tackle school', eh?

Loved it from Biggar... someone needs to twat Farrell... he's a delinquent thug...

Agreed, he'll keep offending for as long as he's allowed to get away with it. He won't give a shit as long as the worst he ever cops is a slap on the wrist. There's no evidence that he's improved his "tackle technique" after years of offending. It's also a terrible look for the RFU, but do they even really care?

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:10 pm Spoken like someone who's not looked too closely at how Biggar plays his rugby. He's hardly squeaky clean and has gotten away with plenty of pretty awful tackles and cheap shots himself (and the occasional bit of play acting for the ref). Let's not whitewash him just because of who he's needling.

Yeah nah maybe...

Farrell deserved the confrontation regardless of who delivered it. The reaction speaks volumes about Farrell's character. That's the issue.

A computer-generated image of a Cro-Magnon, based on skulls found by archaeologists



Owen Farrell not looking too happy




WHOOPS. I may have made a mistake with the captions.

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:12 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:52 pm

Niegs wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:48 pm I'm not a Biggar fan, but seeing as they're not 'allowed' punch-ups any more, it's the least Farrell should have got in the moment. That he responds so angrily and aggressively despite his lazy, if not deliberate, high shot says a lot to me about his attitude. So much for 'tackle school', eh?

Loved it from Biggar... someone needs to twat Farrell... he's a delinquent thug...

Agreed, he'll keep offending for as long as he's allowed to get away with it. He won't give a shit as long as the worst he ever cops is a slap on the wrist. There's no evidence that he's improved his "tackle technique" after years of offending. It's also a terrible look for the RFU, but do they even really care?

I don't think tackle school is the answer. This is a mental health issue... Is there another player in World Rugby who consistently gets away with high hits like Farrell? There are numerous compilation videos of his hits... he is the Jeffrey Dahmer serial offender of our sport... to protect himself and other players, he needs psychiatric help.

It's time for World Rugby to make bans far longer for these offences. If Owen Farrell gets 6 months off for repeat offending... I suspect we wouldn't see a high tackle from him again...

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:16 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:10 pm Spoken like someone who's not looked too closely at how Biggar plays his rugby. He's hardly squeaky clean and has gotten away with plenty of pretty awful tackles and cheap shots himself (and the occasional bit of play acting for the ref). Let's not whitewash him just because of who he's needling.

Yeah nah maybe...

Farrell deserved the confrontation regardless of who delivered it. The reaction speaks volumes about Farrell's character. That's the issue.

Totally agree

Just don't forget Biggar is also a bit of a cunt