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assfly wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:11 am
handyman wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:46 am It seems SARU have actually done a good job for a change. Must be tough for Aus and NZ that we managed to best them when it came to the negotiating table.
We're like the cool kid everyone wants to play with.
Well, we are current and triple RWC champions, it is what it is.

Outsmarted by South Africans in the boardroom, that must be a killer for Aus and NZ.
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PRO16, Rugby Championship ... SA Rugby gets the best of both worlds
By Mike Greenaway Time of article published 4h ago


DURBAN - The revelation that the Springboks have committed to the Rugby Championship for the next 10 years is hugely positive for South African rugby, and with our provincial teams joining the Pro16, it means this country has the best of both worlds.

There are benefits to be had for playing in Europe just as there are positives to maintaining a relationship with world rugby leaders in New Zealand and Australia, so this latest development means South African rugby has a foot in each hemisphere, which should translate into healthy growth.


As SA Rugby boss Jurie Roux pointed out, southern hemisphere countries have won five of the six World Cups that have been held since the game turned professional in 1996, the year that the Tri

Nations was formed (later to become the Rugby Championship when Argentina joined).

I don’t think it is a coincidence that New Zealand, South African and Australia have dominated the World Cup in this period given the fierceness of the competition between the All Blacks, Springboks and Wallabies, with the Pumas no slouches themselves.


While the Boks are the worthy World Cup holders, the All Blacks consistently set the pace in international rugby – let’s not kid ourselves on this one – and it makes plenty of sense for the Boks to maintain their close association with their traditional rivals.

Meanwhile, the addition of the Bulls, Sharks, Lions and Stormers to the northern hemisphere’s

Pro16 makes sense on a number of fronts – it is geographically a far better option, financially it is substantially more lucrative than Super Rugby and, as the Cheetahs and Kings players will tell you, there are significant nuances the players pick up from playing in different conditions in a different hemisphere.

The Springboks have not played international rugby, since their victory at the Rugby World Cup 12 months ago. COVID-19 forced SA Rugby to pull out of the Rugby Championship, currently taking place in Australia. Their next big assignment is the British and Irish Lions tour taking place here next year. But, loosehead prop Steven Kitshoff is not worried that the...
The fact that the Boks will continue in the Rugby Championship but have ditched Super Rugby is an admission that the one competition remains healthy while the other has slowly and painfully imploded over the last decade, pretty much since the heady days of the exciting Super 12.

Sanzaar’s continued fiddling with the recipe for that competition ultimately killed it off.

It is also exciting that the Championship is to be refreshed without it being expanded. It will remain Argentina, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa but there will now be 12 home and away games and “mini-tours” as Sanzaar have put it.

It was interesting to hear Sanzaar CEO Andy Marinos say that this news on the Championship is only the beginning, an “important start.”

“This is the first of a number of announcements that will be made over the coming weeks and months as we continue to plan into 2021 and beyond,” Marinos said. “There are some exciting times ahead for rugby in the southern hemisphere as we look to reposition our structure, competitions and future direction as an organisation.”

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People keep going on about the new 12 match format. But how is it different to the old 12 match format which also featured mini tours?
Marino will give details in weeks to come.
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handyman wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:24 am
assfly wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:11 am
handyman wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:46 am It seems SARU have actually done a good job for a change. Must be tough for Aus and NZ that we managed to best them when it came to the negotiating table.
We're like the cool kid everyone wants to play with.
Well, we are current and triple RWC champions, it is what it is.

Outsmarted by South Africans in the boardroom, that must be a killer for Aus and NZ.

Dude , you have a very kak attitude.........I hope you are not anywhere near sales and managing clients....because people remember the way they get treated and when an oppurtunity presents itself we will get snaaied as bad if not worse........Not very bright.
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assfly wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:11 am
handyman wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:46 am It seems SARU have actually done a good job for a change. Must be tough for Aus and NZ that we managed to best them when it came to the negotiating table.
We're like the cool kid everyone wants to play with.
The cool kid with the plague who lives in a slum?
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Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:00 pm
assfly wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:11 am
handyman wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:46 am It seems SARU have actually done a good job for a change. Must be tough for Aus and NZ that we managed to best them when it came to the negotiating table.
We're like the cool kid everyone wants to play with.
The cool kid with the plague who lives in a slum?
Salty. Very salty.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:04 pm
Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:00 pm
assfly wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:11 am

We're like the cool kid everyone wants to play with.
The cool kid with the plague who lives in a slum?
Salty. Very salty.
Salty that the country I live in is wealthy, and has managed coronavirus wonderfully?

Or salty because I get to watch my national team play test match Rugby this weekend, whilst you guys are stuck watching Super Covid Unlocked?
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Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:07 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:04 pm
Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:00 pm

The cool kid with the plague who lives in a slum?
Salty. Very salty.
Salty that the country I live in is wealthy, and has managed coronavirus wonderfully?

Or salty because I get to watch my national team play test match Rugby this weekend, whilst you guys are stuck watching Super Covid Unlocked?
You go dark faster than our cat
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Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:07 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:04 pm
Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:00 pm

The cool kid with the plague who lives in a slum?
Salty. Very salty.
Salty that the country I live in is wealthy, and has managed coronavirus wonderfully?

Or salty because I get to watch my national team play test match Rugby this weekend, whilst you guys are stuck watching Super Covid Unlocked?
Sharks vs Cheetahs is better then Wallabies vs All Blacks 4 weeks in a row.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:56 pm
Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:07 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:04 pm

Salty. Very salty.
Salty that the country I live in is wealthy, and has managed coronavirus wonderfully?

Or salty because I get to watch my national team play test match Rugby this weekend, whilst you guys are stuck watching Super Covid Unlocked?
Sharks vs Cheetahs is better then Wallabies vs All Blacks 4 weeks in a row.
Four games in a row, not four sequential weeks. Four isn’t too bad - it’s just one more than an old fashioned three test series.
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Have the Saffas stopped being hysterical yet?
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Shanky’s mate wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:12 pm Have the Saffas stopped being hysterical yet?
Did we start? :???:
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:13 pm
Shanky’s mate wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:12 pm Have the Saffas stopped being hysterical yet?
Did we start? :???:
So that’s a no, then.
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Shanky’s mate wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:12 pm Have the Saffas stopped being hysterical yet?
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Jb1981 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:28 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:56 pm
Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:07 pm

Salty that the country I live in is wealthy, and has managed coronavirus wonderfully?

Or salty because I get to watch my national team play test match Rugby this weekend, whilst you guys are stuck watching Super Covid Unlocked?
Sharks vs Cheetahs is better then Wallabies vs All Blacks 4 weeks in a row.
Four games in a row, not four sequential weeks. Four isn’t too bad - it’s just one more than an old fashioned three test series.
It's not finish yet.

All Blacks B by 60.

It's the same effect now as Springbokke vs Namibia.
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How much damage is being done to Australian rugby by being shot klapped every weekend?

Let's see how many fans turn up to watch the slaughter.
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Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:07 pm Or salty because I get to watch my national team play test match Rugby this weekend, whilst you guys are stuck watching Super Covid Unlocked?
:lol: :clap:
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Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:00 pm
assfly wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:11 am
handyman wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:46 am It seems SARU have actually done a good job for a change. Must be tough for Aus and NZ that we managed to best them when it came to the negotiating table.
We're like the cool kid everyone wants to play with.
The cool kid with the plague who lives in a slum?
Dude....not cool. As one of the top echelon posters I expect better from you....

Remember the rules of engagement.....don't lower yourself...at any point. It makes you look just as afraid and desperate as the minions you are winding up.
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Shanky’s mate wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:21 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:13 pm
Shanky’s mate wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:12 pm Have the Saffas stopped being hysterical yet?
Did we start? :???:
So that’s a no, then.
I think you need to check who started this thread before you accuse other nations of being hysterical.
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Rinkals wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:53 am
Shanky’s mate wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:21 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:13 pm

Did we start? :???:
So that’s a no, then.
I think you need to check who started this thread before you accuse other nations of being hysterical.
Dude....he has been toying with you lot all this time.
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Sards wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:57 am
Rinkals wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:53 am
Shanky’s mate wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:21 pm

So that’s a no, then.
I think you need to check who started this thread before you accuse other nations of being hysterical.
Dude....he has been toying with you lot all this time.
Right.

I stand corrected.

There is one Saffer who can be justifiably regarded as hysterical.

I suppose every nation has at least one...
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Rinkals wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:13 am
Sards wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:57 am
Rinkals wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:53 am

I think you need to check who started this thread before you accuse other nations of being hysterical.
Dude....he has been toying with you lot all this time.
Right.

I stand corrected.

There is one Saffer who can be justifiably regarded as hysterical.

I suppose every nation has at least one...
Still getting played
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Rinkals wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:13 am
Sards wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:57 am
Rinkals wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:53 am

I think you need to check who started this thread before you accuse other nations of being hysterical.
Dude....he has been toying with you lot all this time.
Right.

I stand corrected.

There is one Saffer who can be justifiably regarded as hysterical.

I suppose every nation has at least one...
Leave Clogs out of this.
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After watching all those cards for dirty play, I am quite happy that SARU has not let our undercooked players be exposed to such filth and cheap shots.
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The COVID-19 pandemic has hit rugby in South Africa so badly that SA Rugby was forced into knocking on World Rugby’s door to ask for financial support. According to information from the Rapport all the large unions and even some of the smaller ones were forced into requesting an advance on the annual contributions made to them by SA Rugby.

In effect, SA Rugby has gone to World Rugby and asked them for next year’s stipend now and added that to whatever savings they currently have in order to help the unions survive.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/south-af ... rld-rugby/
So South Africa pull out of The Rugby Championship, risking the TV and ticket sales revenue of three unions, then walk up to World Rugby hat in hand and expect a hand out? Stay classy :thumbup:
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mrbrownstone wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:30 am
The COVID-19 pandemic has hit rugby in South Africa so badly that SA Rugby was forced into knocking on World Rugby’s door to ask for financial support. According to information from the Rapport all the large unions and even some of the smaller ones were forced into requesting an advance on the annual contributions made to them by SA Rugby.

In effect, SA Rugby has gone to World Rugby and asked them for next year’s stipend now and added that to whatever savings they currently have in order to help the unions survive.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/south-af ... rld-rugby/
So South Africa pull out of The Rugby Championship, risking the TV and ticket sales revenue of three unions, then walk up to World Rugby hat in hand and expect a hand out? Stay classy :thumbup:
They are financial vandals who have selfishly and recklessly risked the fiscal sustainability of their Rugby Championship based on a dishonest lie about 500 minutes of playing time being required.

Btw what happened to the mythical South African TV money that was supposed to have kept NZ and Australia afloat since the game went pro? South African posters are always boasting about how wealthy the game is in South Africa, yet here we have SARU begging World Rugby for money.
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mrbrownstone wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:30 am
The COVID-19 pandemic has hit rugby in South Africa so badly that SA Rugby was forced into knocking on World Rugby’s door to ask for financial support. According to information from the Rapport all the large unions and even some of the smaller ones were forced into requesting an advance on the annual contributions made to them by SA Rugby.

In effect, SA Rugby has gone to World Rugby and asked them for next year’s stipend now and added that to whatever savings they currently have in order to help the unions survive.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/south-af ... rld-rugby/
So South Africa pull out of The Rugby Championship, risking the TV and ticket sales revenue of three unions, then walk up to World Rugby hat in hand and expect a hand out? Stay classy :thumbup:
Thats actually mind boggling....what do they honestly expect. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
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Carter's Choice wrote:
They are financial vandals who have selfishly and recklessly risked the fiscal sustainability of their Rugby Championship based on a dishonest lie about 500 minutes of playing time being required.

Btw what happened to the mythical South African TV money that was supposed to have kept NZ and Australia afloat since the game went pro? South African posters are always boasting about how wealthy the game is in South Africa, yet here we have SARU begging World Rugby for money.
Its not as wealthy as you think. More and more subscribers are ditching DSTV as there really is nothing much to watch on it. Besides Rugby. And you need to buy thr premium package for that...I actually canceled mine because the kids watch Netflix since lockdown and so do I when I get the chance. I asked my sons if they wanted it back last night bearing in mind CC is starting and they said they don't watch anything on it..... I have literally been throwing money away every month on it just for the Rugby. Having never asked my kids what they wanted
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Carter's Choice wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:09 am
mrbrownstone wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:30 am
The COVID-19 pandemic has hit rugby in South Africa so badly that SA Rugby was forced into knocking on World Rugby’s door to ask for financial support. According to information from the Rapport all the large unions and even some of the smaller ones were forced into requesting an advance on the annual contributions made to them by SA Rugby.

In effect, SA Rugby has gone to World Rugby and asked them for next year’s stipend now and added that to whatever savings they currently have in order to help the unions survive.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/south-af ... rld-rugby/
So South Africa pull out of The Rugby Championship, risking the TV and ticket sales revenue of three unions, then walk up to World Rugby hat in hand and expect a hand out? Stay classy :thumbup:
They are financial vandals who have selfishly and recklessly risked the fiscal sustainability of their Rugby Championship based on a dishonest lie about 500 minutes of playing time being required.

Btw what happened to the mythical South African TV money that was supposed to have kept NZ and Australia afloat since the game went pro? South African posters are always boasting about how wealthy the game is in South Africa, yet here we have SARU begging World Rugby for money.
To us, the value of a human life cannot be measured in Rands, it's something that I appreciate. To me, the big question is why aren't nz, Aus and Arg sueing us into kingdom come for breaking the contract? Surely they would be savvy enough to bind us and make sure we cannot get out of the deal? Surely?
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handyman wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:41 am
Carter's Choice wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:09 am
mrbrownstone wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:30 am

So South Africa pull out of The Rugby Championship, risking the TV and ticket sales revenue of three unions, then walk up to World Rugby hat in hand and expect a hand out? Stay classy :thumbup:
They are financial vandals who have selfishly and recklessly risked the fiscal sustainability of their Rugby Championship based on a dishonest lie about 500 minutes of playing time being required.

Btw what happened to the mythical South African TV money that was supposed to have kept NZ and Australia afloat since the game went pro? South African posters are always boasting about how wealthy the game is in South Africa, yet here we have SARU begging World Rugby for money.
To us, the value of a human life cannot be measured in Rands, it's something that I appreciate. To me, the big question is why aren't nz, Aus and Arg sueing us into kingdom come for breaking the contract? Surely they would be savvy enough to bind us and make sure we cannot get out of the deal? Surely?
Covid is an unnatural circumstance which cannot be measured in terms of contracts. And contracts can be set aside because of it.
The same way your employers can reduce your salaries and you can take holidays on loans made from the banks......duh.....
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Will their whinging ever stop?
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Chilli wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:04 am Will their whinging ever stop?
AC has some of us spitting feathers...and the fact that the Argies smashed the ABs with less playing time just rubbed more salt into the wound...a kind of what if , could have , should have.....the boat has left the harbour boys.....
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Sards wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:20 am
Chilli wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:04 am Will their whinging ever stop?
AC has some of us spitting feathers...and the fact that the Argies smashed the ABs with less playing time just rubbed more salt into the wound...a kind of what if , could have , should have.....the boat has left the harbour boys.....
Dude you confuse us Saffers. You agree with the trolling AC /Green vokker.

We however can see now that you havent watched any rugby since the start of lock down.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:28 am
Sards wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:20 am
Chilli wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:04 am Will their whinging ever stop?
AC has some of us spitting feathers...and the fact that the Argies smashed the ABs with less playing time just rubbed more salt into the wound...a kind of what if , could have , should have.....the boat has left the harbour boys.....
Dude you confuse us Saffers. You agree with the trolling AC /Green vokker.

We however can see now that you havent watched any rugby since the start of lock down.
Not denying it...this was me when the rugby was on on saturday evening

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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:39 am Don't smoke weed, kids.
:lol:

Man I suffered the next morning....went to bed around 2am...got up at 7 am....took my son to cricket and withered away under the boiling sun for 6 hours without any refreshments because the tuck shop was closed...and then took the kids to the farm straight afterwards and suffered there making small talk for 2 hours before getting home....My poor missus , in similar condition suffered with me at the cricket and went straight to her shop till 10 pm that night....I must say that I have a real Trooper of a woman.....I could never have made it....I would have wimped out of working.
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All the countries try to copy Rassie's high kick and charge gameplan. They should pay Saru copy rights on his gameplan.

It open up a good gap on the rankings. We can bubble ourself, sit back and enjoy them chasing us.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:03 am All the countries try to copy Rassie's high kick and charge gameplan. They should pay Saru copy rights on his gameplan.

It open up a good gap on the rankings. We can bubble ourself, sit back and enjoy them chasing us.
Jake White wants a word with you.....
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:03 am All the countries try to copy Rassie's high kick and charge gameplan. They should pay Saru copy rights on his gameplan.

It open up a good gap on the rankings. We can bubble ourself, sit back and enjoy them chasing us.
Not really a high kick and charge gameplan. We played proper rugby in the final, surprised England and won comfortably in the end, scoring some great tries.

What we are doing now is respecting everyone's health. When the time is right, we will play again. Lives are more important than international rugby. Perspective.
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