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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:34 am

Chilli wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:04 pm The rules are ruining the game
After the second card I turned the TV off.

Did you hear Duanne Vermeulen reply after the ref explain the yellows to the captains?

"Must we play touchies now?"

We have a lot of qouta refs now in the CC.

They have no knowledge about scrums, the rucks was always a grey area, now it's a vokop.

It's frustrating. The CC however is heading in an exciting last quarter.

Chilli wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:55 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:34 am

Chilli wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:04 pm The rules are ruining the game
After the second card I turned the TV off.

We have a lot of qouta refs now in the CC.

They have no knowledge about scrums, the rucks was always a grey area, now it's a vokop.

It's frustrating. The CC however is heading in an exciting last quarter.

Is it just a shit ref and a shit TMO?
Is World Rugby directing that refs must blow EVERY AND ANY contact to the head?
Or is it both?

TheNatalShark wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:44 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:55 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:34 am

We have a lot of qouta refs now in the CC.

They have no knowledge about scrums, the rucks was always a grey area, now it's a vokop.

It's frustrating. The CC however is heading in an exciting last quarter.

Is it just a shit ref and a shit TMO?
Is World Rugby directing that refs must blow EVERY AND ANY contact to the head?
Or is it both?

It is a world rugby directive to get the tackles lower and treat any contact with the head as effectively guilty until shown as innocent or mitigations work down away from a red. You see similar calls in NH games, and the tri-nations games.

Both calls were rough even as pens, but if it is blown consistently I try moderate my quibbles. Not sure where "quota refs" above comes into this.


As for the game there was some great play from both sides at points, a lot of mindless kicking but some good touch finders by Bosch. Even Libbok had an okay game - but still can't wait for Fassi to get fit,

Morne and Bosch both missed a sitter from right in front, so whilst Sharks were a bit lucky in the end I think on the balance deserved it - particularly as Marco van Staden 100% played the ball off his feet for his try!

Enjoyed having brandy for the first time as well, nearly 10 years out of school. Might actually move away from vodka

assfly wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:57 am Missed the game but saw the highlights. Perhaps a bit lucky that Morne missed that sitter at the end, but this is a massive result espeically when we remember the poesklap the Bulls gave us in Pretoria. Sounds like we're finally getting back to our SR form.

Chilli wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:54 am Are you not joining Team Braai?

assfly wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:44 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:54 am Are you not joining Team Braai?

What is team braai?

assfly wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:52 am OK. I assume there is a secret handshake?

Chilli wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:58 am

assfly wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:52 am OK. I assume there is a secret handshake?

And a nod.

Sandstorm wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:58 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:58 am

assfly wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:52 am OK. I assume there is a secret handshake?

And a nod.

But no winking

assfly wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:27 am I see Bosch was given man of the match. Is it his third or fourth since the season restarted?

Sards wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:00 am I don't like to say it......But I told you guys so.........

I was right about Bosch and Willemse.....Like I usually am.


Can I get a round of applause now.

Seriously...I said so early in Bosch's career.....the kid has enourmous BMT......When the pressure is on he just does the business...and if he fails he shrugs it off and carries on without any emotional hangover and loss of confidence.

By comparisson Willemse is a flake....every single year for the last 3 seasons he has been substituted at flyhalf mid season. One missed kick and he falls apart. And his kicking, decision making and distribution is very poor.

assfly wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:02 am

Sards wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:00 am I don't like to say it......But I told you guys so.........

I was right about Bosch and Willemse.....Like I usually am.


Can I get a round of applause now.

Seriously...I said so early in Bosch's career.....the kid has enourmous BMT......When the pressure is on he just does the business...and if he fails he shrugs it off and carries on without any emotional hangover and loss of confidence.

By comparisson Willemse is a flake....every single year for the last 3 seasons he has been substituted at flyhalf mid season. One missed kick and he falls apart. And his kicking, decision making and distribution is very poor.

He's come along well. Would still like to see him attack the line more, but it's great to have a reliable 10.

I still wouldn't put him in contention for the Bok jersey though.

Sards wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:23 am I don't think he is capped. Will probably head north....I would were I him. SARU is a vokkop

Chilli wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:55 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:34 am

Chilli wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:04 pm The rules are ruining the game
After the second card I turned the TV off.

Did you hear Duanne Vermeulen reply after the ref explain the yellows to the captains?

"Must we play touchies now?"

We have a lot of qouta refs now in the CC.

They have no knowledge about scrums, the rucks was always a grey area, now it's a vokop.

It's frustrating. The CC however is heading in an exciting last quarter.

I didn't even watch the Cheetahs loss.

I am totally against foul or dangerous play.
But there is no way that neither the Sharks nor the Bulls player should have even been penalized. How there was even a consideration of a red card is totally laughable.

Is it just a shit ref and a shit TMO?
Is World Rugby directing that refs must blow EVERY AND ANY contact to the head?
Or is it both?

Like Duane said, should we just rather play touchies?

assfly wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:26 am

Sards wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:23 am I don't think he is capped. Will probably head north....I would were I him. SARU is a vokkop

He'd definitely capped. But ja, if he wasn't he'd probably have 50 caps for Scotland by now.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:57 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:55 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:34 am
Did you hear Duanne Vermeulen reply after the ref explain the yellows to the captains?

"Must we play touchies now?"

We have a lot of qouta refs now in the CC.

They have no knowledge about scrums, the rucks was always a grey area, now it's a vokop.

It's frustrating. The CC however is heading in an exciting last quarter.

I didn't even watch the Cheetahs loss.

I am totally against foul or dangerous play.
But there is no way that neither the Sharks nor the Bulls player should have even been penalized. How there was even a consideration of a red card is totally laughable.

Is it just a shit ref and a shit TMO?
Is World Rugby directing that refs must blow EVERY AND ANY contact to the head?
Or is it both?

Like Duane said, should we just rather play touchies?

Sards wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:05 pm Vok but he squealed like a stuffed pig because his team was getting donnered by the mighty Sharks

assfly wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:18 pm

Sards wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:05 pm Vok but he squealed like a stuffed pig because his team was getting donnered by the mighty Sharks

I'm on the fence about this. One the one hand, I thought they were both quite soft yellow cards. On the other, you've seen the news in the UK about players being diagnosed with dementia, so we're going to see more decisions like this.

CURRIE CUP TEAM OF THE WEEK (Round 3)
15 Manie Libbok (Sharks)
14 Sbu Nkosi (Sharks)
13 Lukhanyo Am (Sharks)
12 Cornal Hendricks (Bulls)
11 Yaw Penxe (Sharks)
10 Curwin Bosch (Sharks)
9 Andre Warner (Lions)
8 Duane Vermeulen (Bulls)
7 Vincent Tshituka (Lions)
6 Dylan Richardson (Sharks)
5 Hyron Andrews (Sharks)
4 Willem Alberts (Lions)
3 Jannie du Plessis (Lions)
2 Johan Grobbelaar (Bulls)
1 Steven Kitshoff (Western Province)
*Note: Griquas had a bye in the third round of the Currie Cup

assfly wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:02 am Bulls game cancelled. That should have been an easy 5 points for them, but they'll only get two. Makes the race for the top a bit more interesting now.

Hope all the players and staff recover quickly.

Cell C Sharks

1. Ox Nche
2. Kerron van Vuuren
3. Michael Kumbirai
4. JJ van der Mescht
5. Aston Fortuin*
6. Dylan Richardson
7. Henco Venter
8. Sikhumbuzo Notshe
9. Sanele Nohamba
10. Curwin Bosch
11. Yaw Penxe
12. Marius Louw
13. Lukhanyo Am (c)
14. Sbu Nkosi
15. Manie Libbok

Replacements
16. Fezo Mbatha
17. Mzamo Majola
18. John Hubert-Meyer
19. Thembelani Bholi
20. James Venter
21. Phepsi Buthelezi
22. Jaden Hendrikse
23. Jeremy Ward

Sards wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:10 am
Just hope Sharks get to play WP...
I need to enjoy the hiding they will get

Sandstorm wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:32 am

Sards wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:10 am
Just hope Sharks get to play WP...
I need to enjoy the hiding they will get

Are 4 minutes of highlights enough for you?

Sards wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:18 pm Lions – 
15 Tiaan Swanepoel,
14 Stean Pienaar,
13 Wandisile Simelane,
12 Dan Kriel,
11 Courtnall Skosan,
10 Elton Jantjies (c),
9 Andre Warner,
8 Len Massyn,
7 Vincent Tshituka/Wilhelm van der Sluys,
6 Jaco Kriel,
5 Marvin Orie,
4 Willem Alberts,
3 Jannie du Plessis,
2 Jaco Visagie,
1 Sti Sithole/Dylan Smith.

Subs: 16 Jan-Henning Campher, 17 Ruan Dreyer, 18 Wiehahn Herbst, 19 Reinhard Nothnagel, 20 Roelof Smit, 21 Morne van den Berg, 22 Burger Odendaal, 23 Jamba Ulengo, 24 Carlu Sadie, 25 Manuel Rass

assfly wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:22 am Rasta really is an awful ref. I find it hard to enjoy any game he's in the middle.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:19 am Marco van Staden is on form, but Jacques Rudolph and Willie Engelbrecht is real ysters. Engelbrecht getting that yellow was really sad.