The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

[Slick]

Muncaster looks like he will be a proper player.

Got all the feels. Perhaps the 8 Scotland have been waiting for since Simon Taylor

Looks the part, aye.

All the young lads did well tonight.

They did. Currie looked excellent the whole game, one of those players I was hoping would get the ball after every breakdown. Crosbie very good. Sheil looked good apart from his kicking which was pretty poor. Liked Muncaster

[mos_eisely_]

Got all the feels. Perhaps the 8 Scotland have been waiting for since Simon Taylor

Looks the part, aye.

All the young lads did well tonight.

I thought so too. A few errors but with hardly any rugby behind some of them it isn't surprising.

Some players to be enthusiastic about in there.

Average age of 23 or something, and if you take Nel out the equation...!

[Jock42]

Wasn't expecting that first half score.

[salanya]

These new rules/laws are absolutely shite - breaking up the game even further. It'll be American Football before long


Oh, and Glasgow are pretty shite too today.

[Yr Alban]

Wasn't expecting that first half score.

Just saw the latest score on Twitter. WTAF is up with Glasgow today?

[KingBlairhorn]

I wonder if Wilson has a break clause in his contract after year 1. If he does, the SRU should seriously consider it. This isn’t like Edinburgh putting out the kids yesterday, that’s a Glasgow side packed full of internationals getting utterly mauled by Benetton. Awful stuff.

[Yr Alban]

I wonder if Wilson has a break clause in his contract after year 1. If he does, the SRU should seriously consider it. This isn’t like Edinburgh putting out the kids yesterday, that’s a Glasgow side packed full of internationals getting utterly mauled by Benetton. Awful stuff.

That’s very much my thinking too. It isn’t a weak team.

[KingBlairhorn]

I’m sure someone will argue a coach doesn’t cause players to drop the ball or make dumb decisions but I massively disagree with that. If players are in stress positions because the system doesn’t work, they aren’t fit enough, they don’t understand their role or a variety of other reasons then the opportunity to make mistakes is multiplied. That’s what I saw in Glasgow today. Good players making mistakes because they were being stressed both in attack and defence. The defensive system is weak with Benetton punching holes almost at will, but the attacking system is also poor with lots of lateral huff and puff but no penetration. The whole thing broke down repeatedly with bad mismatches in attack with easy turnovers for Benetton doubly punished with breakaway tries because the scramble defence was also awful. Glasgow are broken top to bottom right now.

[Jock42]

Wasn't expecting that first half score.

Just saw the latest score on Twitter. WTAF is up with Glasgow today?

They looked bereft of any ideas to break the Bennetton defence down

[Biffer]

Scottish women beat the Welsh today, a really good performance, comfortably better than them. Looked better in every aspect of the game,

[Yr Alban]

Scottish women beat the Welsh today, a really good performance, comfortably better than them. Looked better in every aspect of the game,

Heartening after their heavy loss to Italy last week.

[Big D]

I wonder if Wilson has a break clause in his contract after year 1. If he does, the SRU should seriously consider it. This isn’t like Edinburgh putting out the kids yesterday, that’s a Glasgow side packed full of internationals getting utterly mauled by Benetton. Awful stuff.

That’s very much my thinking too. It isn’t a weak team.

But it is a meaningless competition with zero to play for.

The SRU promoted him to the role and won't bin him. Amd to be fair we don't know whether they were trying something different in defense that failed badly. If there is ever a set of games to try new bits and pieces these are them.

[Yr Alban]

I wonder if Wilson has a break clause in his contract after year 1. If he does, the SRU should seriously consider it. This isn’t like Edinburgh putting out the kids yesterday, that’s a Glasgow side packed full of internationals getting utterly mauled by Benetton. Awful stuff.

That’s very much my thinking too. It isn’t a weak team.

But it is a meaningless competition with zero to play for.

The SRU promoted him to the role and won't bin him. Amd to be fair we don't know whether they were trying something different in defense that failed badly. If there is ever a set of games to try new bits and pieces these are them.

I can accept this, but it’s a hell of an embarrassing result all the same.

[Big D]

That’s very much my thinking too. It isn’t a weak team.

But it is a meaningless competition with zero to play for.

The SRU promoted him to the role and won't bin him. Amd to be fair we don't know whether they were trying something different in defense that failed badly. If there is ever a set of games to try new bits and pieces these are them.

I can accept this, but it’s a hell of an embarrassing result all the same.

Absolutely.

But these games for the likes of Brown, Fagerson and Price only carry negatives IMO.

I'd be in favour of the SRU telling Cockerill and Wilson the senior internationals are to sit out the next two weeks. Certainly the second one after the 1862 is decided.

[Tichtheid]

But it is a meaningless competition with zero to play for.

The SRU promoted him to the role and won't bin him. Amd to be fair we don't know whether they were trying something different in defense that failed badly. If there is ever a set of games to try new bits and pieces these are them.

I can accept this, but it’s a hell of an embarrassing result all the same.

Absolutely.

But these games for the likes of Brown, Fagerson and Price only carry negatives IMO.

I'd be in favour of the SRU telling Cockerill and Wilson the senior internationals are to sit out the next two weeks. Certainly the second one after the 1862 is decided.

I think that may well happen, not the diktat from the SRU, but a youth selection like Edinburgh had on Friday.

Cockerill said after the match that he was picking a first XV for the game in a fortnight

[Slick]

I can accept this, but it’s a hell of an embarrassing result all the same.

Absolutely.

But these games for the likes of Brown, Fagerson and Price only carry negatives IMO.

I'd be in favour of the SRU telling Cockerill and Wilson the senior internationals are to sit out the next two weeks. Certainly the second one after the 1862 is decided.

I think that may well happen, not the diktat from the SRU, but a youth selection like Edinburgh had on Friday.

Cockerill said after the match that he was picking a first XV for the game in a fortnight

Frankly, for me it was a much more enjoyable match to watch seeing youngsters given a go. I find it hard to care about the pro teams but really enjoyed the game on Friday

[I like neeps]

Absolutely.

But these games for the likes of Brown, Fagerson and Price only carry negatives IMO.

I'd be in favour of the SRU telling Cockerill and Wilson the senior internationals are to sit out the next two weeks. Certainly the second one after the 1862 is decided.

I think that may well happen, not the diktat from the SRU, but a youth selection like Edinburgh had on Friday.

Cockerill said after the match that he was picking a first XV for the game in a fortnight

Frankly, for me it was a much more enjoyable match to watch seeing youngsters given a go. I find it hard to care about the pro teams but really enjoyed the game on Friday

Totally agree!

It really annoys me we watch Edinburgh's best team do pish all year, the young guns play an exciting game. Then back to the first team again.

I'm getting very bored of Richard Cockerill.

[robmatic]

Absolutely.

But these games for the likes of Brown, Fagerson and Price only carry negatives IMO.

I'd be in favour of the SRU telling Cockerill and Wilson the senior internationals are to sit out the next two weeks. Certainly the second one after the 1862 is decided.

I think that may well happen, not the diktat from the SRU, but a youth selection like Edinburgh had on Friday.

Cockerill said after the match that he was picking a first XV for the game in a fortnight

Frankly, for me it was a much more enjoyable match to watch seeing youngsters given a go. I find it hard to care about the pro teams but really enjoyed the game on Friday

It does help the enjoyment when they win though. I'm not sure the team we put out on Friday would beat many other teams than Zebre at home.

[dkm57]

Great to watch the Embra youngsters getting a airing and a win, Scottish womens' result was good. Glasgow WTF looked like they all had a hangover and still half cut.

[Tichtheid]

It does help the enjoyment when they win though. I'm not sure the team we put out on Friday would beat many other teams than Zebre at home.

Zebre are a much-improved side who can play exciting rugby, but just can't get a result, they are like Embra, so used to losing that it becomes inevitable.

Grinding out games by boxkicking up the touchline, winning a penalty and battering at the line from two metres out is becoming very dull fare for Edinburgh fans.

Some of these young guys have bags of talent and flair, Chamberlain didn't have his best game with his passing, but he sat as an unused sub for half the season, he is like Charlie Shiel, desperate to impress when he gets a chance. Shiel was excellent, btw, apart from that one kick that went dead, it was the right idea, but poorly executed.

I thought Chris Dean raised the bar when he came on, he might not pressurise Toonie for international selection, but since he moved in to 12 he has become a very good player for us.

Sau's run had me thinking, Duhan who?

Overall it was a good performance to lift us a bit after a truly dire season of dull rugby and very poor results. I just hope Cockerill takes note and uses the talent he has at his disposal.

[robmatic]

It does help the enjoyment when they win though. I'm not sure the team we put out on Friday would beat many other teams than Zebre at home.

Zebre are a much-improved side who can play exciting rugby, but just can't get a result, they are like Embra, so used to losing that it becomes inevitable.

Grinding out games by boxkicking up the touchline, winning a penalty and battering at the line from two metres out is becoming very dull fare for Edinburgh fans.

Some of these young guys have bags of talent and flair, Chamberlain didn't have his best game with his passing, but he sat as an unused sub for half the season, he is like Charlie Shiel, desperate to impress when he gets a chance. Shiel was excellent, btw, apart from that one kick that went dead, it was the right idea, but poorly executed.

I thought Chris Dean raised the bar when he came on, he might not pressurise Toonie for international selection, but since he moved in to 12 he has become a very good player for us.

Sau's run had me thinking, Duhan who?

Overall it was a good performance to lift us a bit after a truly dire season of dull rugby and very poor results. I just hope Cockerill takes note and uses the talent he has at his disposal.

The battering at the line would be more palatable if we were actually effective at it, but we're not.

The young guys absolutely needed a run out though, playing Zebre was the ideal opportunity really. Didn't really matter that Chamberlain had a poor game and the likes of Sykes (who looks an absolute unit already) just need games - it's a shame there's no Super 6 to keep the players match sharp at least.

Shiel just needs to calm down a bit, he's got all the tools.

Sau has been outstanding recently but do we know if he's signed for next season? We could be a bit short in the back 3 otherwise.

[Tichtheid]

Sau has been outstanding recently but do we know if he's signed for next season? We could be a bit short in the back 3 otherwise.

The only back three news I've heard recently is that Graham is due to extend his stay.

Hope Sau will follow suit, he is really growing into 15s now.

[Slick]

it's a shame there's no Super 6 to keep the players match sharp at least.

I've heard it's going to start in July and run through to October.

I've decided I'm going to get firmly behind it this time and make as many matches as possible.

[Jock42]

it's a shame there's no Super 6 to keep the players match sharp at least.

I've heard it's going to start in July and run through to October.

I've decided I'm going to get firmly behind it this time and make as many matches as possible.

Yeah I'd love to get through to see County if crowds are permitted.

[Biffer]

it's a shame there's no Super 6 to keep the players match sharp at least.

I've heard it's going to start in July and run through to October.

I've decided I'm going to get firmly behind it this time and make as many matches as possible.

Yeah I'd love to get through to see County if crowds are permitted.

Damn right, a bit of summer rugby at Meggetland, Myreside and Goldenacre will do me nicely.

[Slick]

I've heard it's going to start in July and run through to October.

I've decided I'm going to get firmly behind it this time and make as many matches as possible.

Yeah I'd love to get through to see County if crowds are permitted.

Damn right, a bit of summer rugby at Meggetland, Myreside and Goldenacre will do me nicely.

I suggested to some of the powers that be that they introduce an "Edinburgh Weekend" ticket if more than one of them is playing at home - different days of course.

[robmatic]

it's a shame there's no Super 6 to keep the players match sharp at least.

I've heard it's going to start in July and run through to October.

I've decided I'm going to get firmly behind it this time and make as many matches as possible.

Good stuff.

Back when I lived in the UK I used to toddle along to games at Goldenacre and Raeburn Place as I lived just along the road, but there weren't exactly many spectators. It was certainly disappointing for what was the tier below the pro game.

[I like neeps]

I've heard it's going to start in July and run through to October.

I've decided I'm going to get firmly behind it this time and make as many matches as possible.

Yeah I'd love to get through to see County if crowds are permitted.

Damn right, a bit of summer rugby at Meggetland, Myreside and Goldenacre will do me nicely.

My core belief is that in Scotland football and rugby should be summer sports. Was in Banchory this weekend for a family funeral and on Saturday the number of young people out at football practice in the sun was a joy to see.

I cannot understand why the administrators have decided playing in pish weather is better. You have to seriously enjoy a sport to play in freezing temps.

[Tichtheid]

Yeah I'd love to get through to see County if crowds are permitted.

Damn right, a bit of summer rugby at Meggetland, Myreside and Goldenacre will do me nicely.

My core belief is that in Scotland football and rugby should be summer sports. Was in Banchory this weekend for a family funeral and on Saturday the number of young people out at football practice in the sun was a joy to see.

I cannot understand why the administrators have decided playing in pish weather is better. You have to seriously enjoy a sport to play in freezing temps.

It's character building, you haven't really played rugby until you've turned out in horizonal sleet and twisted an ankle on frozen, rutted back pitches at Netherdale as a schoolboy.

[westport]

Yeah I'd love to get through to see County if crowds are permitted.

Damn right, a bit of summer rugby at Meggetland, Myreside and Goldenacre will do me nicely.

I suggested to some of the powers that be that they introduce an "Edinburgh Weekend" ticket if more than one of them is playing at home - different days of course.

Friday night at either Myreside or Meggetland then a game on Saturday and Sunday would be a great summer rugby weekend.

[Big D]

Yeah I'd love to get through to see County if crowds are permitted.

Damn right, a bit of summer rugby at Meggetland, Myreside and Goldenacre will do me nicely.

My core belief is that in Scotland football and rugby should be summer sports. Was in Banchory this weekend for a family funeral and on Saturday the number of young people out at football practice in the sun was a joy to see.

I cannot understand why the administrators have decided playing in pish weather is better. You have to seriously enjoy a sport to play in freezing temps.

Because often there were cricketers, golfers etc that played both. Some clubs had pitches that had to be used as cricket pitches in the summer and all sorts. Plus the summer holiday season, family days out are more common in the summer etc.

Whether that should change certainly merits debate.

[Jockaline]

An Edinburgh ticket is a great idea as a one off, and if not conflicting with Edinburgh matches in the future. Can see pros and cons with summer rugby for the the semi professionals. Not as easy to step up for Edinburgh or Glasgow on occasion if not fit and playing to the same calendar, and the players and staff will be wanting summer hols with their families. Might bring more money in though, with supporters able to attend both. The hope of a full pro-contract in the months to come might also be an incentive to give it their all too.

[KingBlairhorn]

If you are going to do an 'Edinburgh' ticket then you are as well putting all the games on at one location over the course of a day/weekend. I expect putting them in Murrayfield would be a disaster, but perhaps Edinburgh's new ground might work. Let each club run a (section of a) beer tent to make sure bar takings aren't lost and make it into a festival of rugby type of thing. You could even have an Edinburgh vs. Glasgow sevens game or two using non-selected pro players to attract a few more fans, or have one of the much asked for not anticipated intra-district games.

[Slick]

If you are going to do an 'Edinburgh' ticket then you are as well putting all the games on at one location over the course of a day/weekend. I expect putting them in Murrayfield would be a disaster, but perhaps Edinburgh's new ground might work. Let each club run a (section of a) beer tent to make sure bar takings aren't lost and make it into a festival of rugby type of thing. You could even have an Edinburgh vs. Glasgow sevens game or two using non-selected pro players to attract a few more fans, or have one of the much asked for not anticipated intra-district games.

You see this is a brilliant idea. Down at mini murrayfield, beer tents, BBQ, kids stuff

Will never be agreed between the teams.

[Biffer]

If you are going to do an 'Edinburgh' ticket then you are as well putting all the games on at one location over the course of a day/weekend. I expect putting them in Murrayfield would be a disaster, but perhaps Edinburgh's new ground might work. Let each club run a (section of a) beer tent to make sure bar takings aren't lost and make it into a festival of rugby type of thing. You could even have an Edinburgh vs. Glasgow sevens game or two using non-selected pro players to attract a few more fans, or have one of the much asked for not anticipated intra-district games.

You see this is a brilliant idea. Down at mini murrayfield, beer tents, BBQ, kids stuff

Will never be agreed between the teams.

They might eventually agree among themselves but they'd never agree to do it with the SRU as it'd be 'taking our money again'.

Think the original idea was to have the final of the Super6 as part of Silver Saturday.

[KingBlairhorn]

Sometimes in business you have to hold your nose and work with someone you don't like. There should be enough smart and experienced people around these clubs to know that.

What I would really love to see is some innovation from the SRU on the 'Judgement Day' type of event. We only have two teams so can't do what Wales do, but what about for instance holding a State of Origin tournament (like the Thistle were suggesting recently) but with the whole thing completed over a weekend or even a day. Four teams, each plays one other team over two 20 minute halves. The winners play off and the losers play off. Altogether you have two full games of rugby played. Add in some rules to keep the tempo up and to make sure everyone plays (rolling subs for instance) and it could be a really fun day. It's the equivalent of the old Tennants sixes in football which were a great laugh all round. A bit of sunshine, fancy dress contests, beers and BBQs. Lovely if you ask me.

[robmatic]

Sometimes in business you have to hold your nose and work with someone you don't like. There should be enough smart and experienced people around these clubs to know that.

What I would really love to see is some innovation from the SRU on the 'Judgement Day' type of event. We only have two teams so can't do what Wales do, but what about for instance holding a State of Origin tournament (like the Thistle were suggesting recently) but with the whole thing completed over a weekend or even a day. Four teams, each plays one other team over two 20 minute halves. The winners play off and the losers play off. Altogether you have two full games of rugby played. Add in some rules to keep the tempo up and to make sure everyone plays (rolling subs for instance) and it could be a really fun day. It's the equivalent of the old Tennants sixes in football which were a great laugh all round. A bit of sunshine, fancy dress contests, beers and BBQs. Lovely if you ask me.

Bit more flexibility for that kind of thing with Mini Murrayfield in the equation as well.

[Jock42]

Sometimes in business you have to hold your nose and work with someone you don't like. There should be enough smart and experienced people around these clubs to know that.

What I would really love to see is some innovation from the SRU on the 'Judgement Day' type of event. We only have two teams so can't do what Wales do, but what about for instance holding a State of Origin tournament (like the Thistle were suggesting recently) but with the whole thing completed over a weekend or even a day. Four teams, each plays one other team over two 20 minute halves. The winners play off and the losers play off. Altogether you have two full games of rugby played. Add in some rules to keep the tempo up and to make sure everyone plays (rolling subs for instance) and it could be a really fun day. It's the equivalent of the old Tennants sixes in football which were a great laugh all round. A bit of sunshine, fancy dress contests, beers and BBQs. Lovely if you ask me.

Their SoO idea is excellent would love to see that but I think I'd prefer that format but with the academies playing.

Academy game
Super 6 final
Academy final
1872

Miss train home ..... again

[SomersetJock]

Would love to see something like that. Would definitely jump on a train and head North for an event like this. Thinking out the box and coming up with something unique is the way forward to spark things up when normality returns.

[SomersetJock]

Sometimes in business you have to hold your nose and work with someone you don't like. There should be enough smart and experienced people around these clubs to know that.

What I would really love to see is some innovation from the SRU on the 'Judgement Day' type of event. We only have two teams so can't do what Wales do, but what about for instance holding a State of Origin tournament (like the Thistle were suggesting recently) but with the whole thing completed over a weekend or even a day. Four teams, each plays one other team over two 20 minute halves. The winners play off and the losers play off. Altogether you have two full games of rugby played. Add in some rules to keep the tempo up and to make sure everyone plays (rolling subs for instance) and it could be a really fun day. It's the equivalent of the old Tennants sixes in football which were a great laugh all round. A bit of sunshine, fancy dress contests, beers and BBQs. Lovely if you ask me.

Would love to see something like that. Would definitely jump on a train and head North for an event like this. Thinking out the box and coming up with something unique is the way forward to spark things up when normality returns.