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Electorates need to take some responsibility. If they vote for chumps, they should expect rubbish governance.
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Uncle fester wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:21 pm Electorates need to take some responsibility. If they vote for chumps, they should expect rubbish governance.
Looking forward to Shinners getting in then ?
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petej wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:53 pm
TheFrog wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:17 pm Wonder what the tendencies are in the Western democracies, but it stroke me after a recent poll in France that politics are drifting strongly to the right in my home country.

That poll had Macron ahead with 26%. I would argue that Macron is center right, as a lot of his policies for the last 5 years would have had Chirac and Sarkozy proud.

Pecresse, from the Républicains has 16% and she is the candidate of the traditional conservative right.

The worrying part is that the far right cumulative 16% with Lepen and 13% with Zemmour. A third of the French are willing to vote for a far right party!

The left only gather 26% of the voting intentions, its leader being the far left candidate Melanchon at 9%, well ahead of the Green candidate Jadot (7%) and the Socialist Mayor of Paris Hidalgo (4%).

One thing is sure. The Socialist Party in France, which had become a Social-Democrat party through the years, doesn't have a voice any longer. The moderate left is now represented by the Green Party.

Adding numbers together, extremist parties reach above 40%. It shows that people are divorced from traditional politics and want a brutal change. Yet it looks like Macron or Pecresse are likely the next President.
Is France as generationally divided as the UK with most of the far right support coming from the older age groups?
I don't think so. I would need to check but I believe LePen has strong support in many different layers of the society.
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Whatever happened to Fangle? I see he last posted in August.

He and I had a falling out over Trump, although I quite liked him, having met him for a few pints.
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Reading back to those posts reflecting on the one year anniversary of the Capitol insurrection had me thinking about a documentary I watched recently...

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People made comments about American wannabe fascists for years, but watching footage of rallies and brainwashed people throwing their complete and joyful love toward a madman really did hit home (take your pick as to which footage I was talking about :lolno: )
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Rinkals wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:22 am Whatever happened to Fangle? I see he last posted in August.

He and I had a falling out over Trump, although I quite liked him, having met him for a few pints.
I was wondering the same thing. I hope he is doing ok.
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Rinkals wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:22 am Whatever happened to Fangle? I see he last posted in August.

He and I had a falling out over Trump, although I quite liked him, having met him for a few pints.
Let's be fair, that was you falling out with him. Demanding he explain himself to you. What a joke!
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:49 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:21 pm Electorates need to take some responsibility. If they vote for chumps, they should expect rubbish governance.
Looking forward to Shinners getting in then ?
That is quite depressing but I do console myself that in the elections immediately before the GE, Euro & locals, they did pretty poorly.
Suspect that much of the SF vote is a protest vote at the performance of the government and frustration with the state of the housing market. It's been broken for 2 decades now and is getting worse.
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Hugo wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:19 am
Rinkals wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:22 am Whatever happened to Fangle? I see he last posted in August.

He and I had a falling out over Trump, although I quite liked him, having met him for a few pints.
I was wondering the same thing. I hope he is doing ok.
He started to be snappy, then he mentioned that his wife wasn’t doing well, maybe this explained that.
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notfatcat wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:45 am
Rinkals wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:22 am Whatever happened to Fangle? I see he last posted in August.

He and I had a falling out over Trump, although I quite liked him, having met him for a few pints.
Let's be fair, that was you falling out with him. Demanding he explain himself to you. What a joke!
That isn't how it happened.

In any case, I hope he's alright.
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Here fishy, fishy,fishy..
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"Just find me 11,870 votes"...
Most perfect phonecall ever... :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :lol:
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TB63 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:42 pm Here fishy, fishy,fishy..

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"Just find me 11,870 votes"...
Most perfect phonecall ever... :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :lol:
I seem to remember a conversation with Seneca and another admirer of Trump (prior to NPR), wherein it was generally agreed that a sitting President defines the law, so it's impossible for him to do anything illegal.

Mueller more or less confirmed Seneca's case.
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TB63 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:42 pm Here fishy, fishy,fishy..

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"Just find me 11,870 votes"...
Most perfect phonecall ever... :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :lol:
How does anyone on the planet look at this and think, yeah that’s a sane person
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so fucking dumb

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Massive News.

For a change it's someone else gets to chuck the shitgibbon, & his vile spawn, under the bus. I think this is him seriously fucked.
Trump's longtime accounting firm recants a decade of his financial statements

The accounting firm that has for years prepared annual financial statements for Donald Trump and his businesses is cutting ties with his company and says a decade's worth of the reports "should no longer be relied upon."

The firm, Mazars USA, wrote to the Trump Organization's chief legal officer Alan Garten on February 9 to inform him of its decision. The letter was included as an exhibit in a filing Monday by the New York attorney general's office, which is seeking depositions from Trump and two of his children, Donald Jr. and Ivanka Trump, as part of an ongoing fraud probe.

In the letter, a Mazars executive cites revelations from the attorney general's investigation as among the reasons the accounting firm is no longer standing by its financial statements for the years ending June 30, 2011 to June 30, 2020, and dropping the Trump Organization.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-orga ... tatements/

You can get away with endless shit if you're wealthy in the US; but the IRS don't give a shit how much money you have; they nail anyone to the wall if they lie to them; & this is Mazars saying that Shitgibbon & his children did exactly that. They've even refused to do their taxes this year FFS

I imagine this will stop him getting, or refinancing any loans; & have all the banks holding his debt, scrambling around assessing their exposure, if someone else breaks ranks, & calls in his debts. They won't want to be last in line, to discover that his inflated valuations mean they can only collect cents in the dollar, if he goes bankrupt.
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He is so fucked !
Former US President Donald Trump and two of his children must answer questions under oath in a New York investigation into their business practices, a judge has ruled.

New York Attorney General Letitia James has accused the Trump Organization of using "fraudulent or misleading asset valuations" to get loans and tax breaks.

Mr Trump must now sit for deposition within 21 days.
I never expected to see him jailed, it was never possible; but bankrupting him, will destroy him; because he has always defined success, by how much money he had. To reduce him to relative poverty will eat him up worse than twenty years in any prison.
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Posting from Alabama, I can tell you he still has a strong base of worshippers who would follow him anywhere.
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fishfoodie wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:31 pm He is so fucked !
Former US President Donald Trump and two of his children must answer questions under oath in a New York investigation into their business practices, a judge has ruled.

New York Attorney General Letitia James has accused the Trump Organization of using "fraudulent or misleading asset valuations" to get loans and tax breaks.

Mr Trump must now sit for deposition within 21 days.
I never expected to see him jailed, it was never possible; but bankrupting him, will destroy him; because he has always defined success, by how much money he had. To reduce him to relative poverty will eat him up worse than twenty years in any prison.
Sure he's been bankrupt before. No biggie.
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Occupational hazard for a grifter.
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Uncle fester wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:34 am
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:31 pm He is so fucked !
Former US President Donald Trump and two of his children must answer questions under oath in a New York investigation into their business practices, a judge has ruled.

New York Attorney General Letitia James has accused the Trump Organization of using "fraudulent or misleading asset valuations" to get loans and tax breaks.

Mr Trump must now sit for deposition within 21 days.
I never expected to see him jailed, it was never possible; but bankrupting him, will destroy him; because he has always defined success, by how much money he had. To reduce him to relative poverty will eat him up worse than twenty years in any prison.
Sure he's been bankrupt before. No biggie.
Will the Russians continue to lend to him now, though? I suspect he's outlived his usefulness. Especially if he loses his NY properties.
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Uncle fester wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:34 am
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:31 pm He is so fucked !
Former US President Donald Trump and two of his children must answer questions under oath in a New York investigation into their business practices, a judge has ruled.

New York Attorney General Letitia James has accused the Trump Organization of using "fraudulent or misleading asset valuations" to get loans and tax breaks.

Mr Trump must now sit for deposition within 21 days.
I never expected to see him jailed, it was never possible; but bankrupting him, will destroy him; because he has always defined success, by how much money he had. To reduce him to relative poverty will eat him up worse than twenty years in any prison.
Sure he's been bankrupt before. No biggie.
This is different though. It’s not just bankruptcy, it’s fraud, and the people he’s defrauded are other rich people, including massive financial institutions. This is a rich vs rich shitfight, and he’s going to get royally fucked, as are his kids.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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We've been here before, and he wriggles away. The only thing that will truly fuck him is the IRS.

But it doesn't matter, the US is fucked, you have the situation where the state level GOP (which is where it really matters) has been captured by Gilead types, there's an election for state Attorney General in Michigan. There are three Republican candidates, all of whom oppose the ruling in Griswold vs Conneticut. That established the right of married couples to use contraception without being prosecuted for it.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:14 pm We've been here before, and he wriggles away. The only thing that will truly fuck him is the IRS.

But it doesn't matter, the US is fucked, you have the situation where the state level GOP (which is where it really matters) has been captured by Gilead types, there's an election for state Attorney General in Michigan. There are three Republican candidates, all of whom oppose the ruling in Griswold vs Conneticut. That established the right of married couples to use contraception without being prosecuted for it.
I’m not so sure. Previously he’s fucked over small businesses, general public etc. He’s not fucked over banks and rich people to this level previously - and definitely not with this spotlight.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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I suppose if he's outlived his usefulness, then he's toast.
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Oh dear, now he's saying his assets are worth more than he declared.
How fucking stupid is he?..
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TB63 wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:27 pm Oh dear, now he's saying his assets are worth more than he declared.

How fucking stupid is he?..
He's stupid enough to have turned the embarrassment of being roasted, into his running for President; & thus fucking himself & his spawn, so comprehensively; that in a decades time; nothing will remain of the legacy his father gifted to him; & his families name will be a byword for corruption, stupidity, & the worst Presidency ever !
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fishfoodie wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:06 am
TB63 wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:27 pm Oh dear, now he's saying his assets are worth more than he declared.

How fucking stupid is he?..
He's stupid enough to have turned the embarrassment of being roasted, into his running for President; & thus fucking himself & his spawn, so comprehensively; that in a decades time; nothing will remain of the legacy his father gifted to him; & his families name will be a byword for corruption, stupidity, & the worst Presidency ever !
Amen to that.
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Biffer wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:00 am
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:34 am
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:31 pm He is so fucked !

I never expected to see him jailed, it was never possible; but bankrupting him, will destroy him; because he has always defined success, by how much money he had. To reduce him to relative poverty will eat him up worse than twenty years in any prison.
Sure he's been bankrupt before. No biggie.
This is different though. It’s not just bankruptcy, it’s fraud, and the people he’s defrauded are other rich people, including massive financial institutions. This is a rich vs rich shitfight, and he’s going to get royally fucked, as are his kids.
OMG!!
Sounds for sure like "The Walls Are Closing In On Trump!!"

So when is this due to happen?

Can I remind you clowns that you've been here before ... for five plus years in fact ... over and over and over and over again ... 'bombshell' after 'bombshell' ... 'cept that each and every one of those 'bombshells' only ended up exploding in your own gullible half-wit faces.

Why do you people keep doing this to yourselves?
Have you zero self-respect?

Do you lie awake at night praying to the gods that one day something will be found that will finally justify your irrational hatred of Trump? Something; anything ... at this stage of your desperation even an overdue library book would suffice.
Otherwise you just know that your Cousin Clarence and your Aunt Myrtle will forever be chortling over how you keep allowing the MSM to lead you around by the nose.
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Who is this imbecile?
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Some say it's Sneaker.
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A bot, surely?

A badly coded bot.
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sefton wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:29 am Who is this imbecile?
Some NZ nutbar..
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I got really disgusted by the “ make America…” when I saw these fcking morons, it was only the beginning

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Two fine figures of humanity there. And the gut on the bloke in grey behind them!
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This for real?
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Uncle fester wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:46 pm This for real?
Nope.

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Uncle fester wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:46 pm This for real?
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Of course not, wanted a laugh, trying to get Convoluted to comment!..
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TB63 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:10 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:46 pm This for real?
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Of course not, wanted a laugh, trying to get Convoluted to comment!..
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