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Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:08 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:00 am Scrum 365 and the Thistle Podcast are suggesting Sutherland to Worcester? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, thought he was under contract and if he goes Embra start looking short at prop.

Wasn't the Thistle podcast the source of the "full mutiny" rumours?

It was supposed to be heads rolling and Cockerill leaving etc etc

Probably bollocks then.

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:14 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:08 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:00 am Scrum 365 and the Thistle Podcast are suggesting Sutherland to Worcester? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, thought he was under contract and if he goes Embra start looking short at prop.

Wasn't the Thistle podcast the source of the "full mutiny" rumours?

It was supposed to be heads rolling and Cockerill leaving etc etc

Probably bollocks then.

Well, I hope so, but if they've put in a bid that turns his head I wouldn't blame him, he knows as well as anyone how precarious a career it is.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:16 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:14 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:08 am


Wasn't the Thistle podcast the source of the "full mutiny" rumours?

It was supposed to be heads rolling and Cockerill leaving etc etc

Probably bollocks then.

Well, I hope so, but if they've put in a bid that turns his head I wouldn't blame him, he knows as well as anyone how precarious a career it is.

And they now have a couple of guarenteed years in the Premiership.

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:00 am Scrum 365 and the Thistle Podcast are suggesting Sutherland to Worcester? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, thought he was under contract and if he goes Embra start looking short at prop.

Makes perfect sense if true, the rugby post also mentioned it. His career has been blighted by injuries and this is his chance for a big contract. Thursday pending, his stock may never be higher.

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:14 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:08 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:00 am Scrum 365 and the Thistle Podcast are suggesting Sutherland to Worcester? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, thought he was under contract and if he goes Embra start looking short at prop.

Wasn't the Thistle podcast the source of the "full mutiny" rumours?

It was supposed to be heads rolling and Cockerill leaving etc etc

Probably bollocks then.

I think I read a post somewhere that suggested the story was true but over egged by an excitable player.

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:14 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:08 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:00 am Scrum 365 and the Thistle Podcast are suggesting Sutherland to Worcester? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, thought he was under contract and if he goes Embra start looking short at prop.

Wasn't the Thistle podcast the source of the "full mutiny" rumours?

It was supposed to be heads rolling and Cockerill leaving etc etc

Probably bollocks then.

They were suggesting that this is part of that situation. So, none the wiser because they're either opportunistically doubling down on their previous bollocks or they really are in the know.

I think anyone who insinuates they know something but won't tell you what it is can generally be classed as a wrong 'un though, despite my own predilections for falling for it. On that basis I say they are full of shit. Incidentally, I listen to their podcasts so can say with some certainty at least one of them reads this forum if not posts, so if it's you, feel free to respond with your evidence.

Richard Cockerill today in The Offside Line on the Rory Sutherland rumours

“Rory is under contract until the end of next season and that’s it,” stated Cockeril. “He won’t be released from his contract. He’s an Edinburgh player until his contract runs out, and from an Edinburgh and Scotland point of view we’d like to keep him long-term. It is as simple as that really – there is no truth in that whatsoever.”

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:32 pm Richard Cockerill today in The Offside Line on the Rory Sutherland rumours

“Rory is under contract until the end of next season and that’s it,” stated Cockeril. “He won’t be released from his contract. He’s an Edinburgh player until his contract runs out, and from an Edinburgh and Scotland point of view we’d like to keep him long-term. It is as simple as that really – there is no truth in that whatsoever.”

Never say never, but it adds credence to the assertion that the Thistle are full of shit.

TOL Lions squad is just an obvious fishing trip. Absolute nonsense, a mishmash of all the controversial choices because they want to get clicks and comments. So shallow.

Virtual stadium tour on the Edinburgh website if anyone's interested. Yes the stanchions are a pain, but I'm looking forward to getting in there.

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:05 pm TOL Lions squad is just an obvious fishing trip. Absolute nonsense, a mishmash of all the controversial choices because they want to get clicks and comments. So shallow.

Just had a look and I don't think it will be that far off actually. Only one I'd massively disagree with is Watson.

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:08 pm Virtual stadium tour on the Edinburgh website if anyone's interested. Yes the stanchions are a pain, but I'm looking forward to getting in there.

The pillars don't look as bad as I expected. I think it will be a radically more fun experience than next door for playing and watching the games with a few thousand folk in there. Better atmosphere for those of us who will only be watching on TV as well.

robmatic wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:28 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:08 pm Virtual stadium tour on the Edinburgh website if anyone's interested. Yes the stanchions are a pain, but I'm looking forward to getting in there.

The pillars don't look as bad as I expected. I think it will be a radically more fun experience than next door for playing and watching the games with a few thousand folk in there. Better atmosphere for those of us who will only be watching on TV as well.

The orange seating looks the business, I guess they will be the premium tickets.

Looks like a great place to watch rugby!

Shame they didn't get a blue sky day!

Harris, Hogg, Price, Russell, VDM, Fagerson, Sutherland, Watson

Happy with that. Don't have to vote SNP today now.

Jock42 wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:47 am Harris, Hogg, Price, Russell, VDM, Fagerson, Sutherland, Watson

Happy with that. Don't have to vote SNP today now.

Jock42 wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:47 am Harris, Hogg, Price, Russell, VDM, Fagerson, Sutherland, Watson

Happy with that. Don't have to vote SNP today now.

Many more than I expected. Really chuffed for them

And 1 guest wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:50 am

Jock42 wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:47 am Harris, Hogg, Price, Russell, VDM, Fagerson, Sutherland, Watson

Happy with that. Don't have to vote SNP today now.

Many more than I expected. Really chuffed for them

Aye. I always enjoy the Lions but looking forward to it much more now. Only managed to see the final SA test last time out, being a civvy has its bonuses.

Jock42 wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:47 am Harris, Hogg, Price, Russell, VDM, Fagerson, Sutherland, Watson

Happy with that. Don't have to vote SNP today now.

Damn, I knew there was bound to be a downside!

Very happy with the selection. My gut tells me that Hogg is the only one likely to start a Test match, but hopefully I’ll be proven wrong. I guess having representation on the panel really does work after all.

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:55 am

Jock42 wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:47 am Harris, Hogg, Price, Russell, VDM, Fagerson, Sutherland, Watson

Happy with that. Don't have to vote SNP today now.

Damn, I knew there was bound to be a downside!

Very happy with the selection. My gut tells me that Hogg is the only one likely to start a Test match, but hopefully I’ll be proven wrong. I guess having representation on the panel really does work after all.

Nah I think Watson and Harris will too. The rest have a chance now they're there.

Edit: Russell has a good chance too.

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:55 am

Jock42 wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:47 am Harris, Hogg, Price, Russell, VDM, Fagerson, Sutherland, Watson

Happy with that. Don't have to vote SNP today now.

Damn, I knew there was bound to be a downside!

Very happy with the selection. My gut tells me that Hogg is the only one likely to start a Test match, but hopefully I’ll be proven wrong. I guess having representation on the panel really does work after all.

They will all get a chance. I wouldn't be surprised (would be sad) if a Scot/Scots start a test and it isn't Hogg. Back 3 will come down to who performs on tour IMO.

Nice to see 50/50 go the navy blue way.

Really pleasantly surprised by the picks and 8 is beyond my expectations. There are a few slightly surprising picks including Aki (not a first choice for Ireland), Lawes (long term injured this year) and Conan (although I think he's been brilliant for Leinster this year, he isn't a worldy type player). Harris is probably the Scottish one that will be questioned, but I think he deserves it and he'll be a dirt tracker anyway. Altogether though, even though there are a few surprises I wouldn't say any are massively controversial.

Anyone watch it on Rugbypass? Apparently that baldy prick Shanklin said Harris isn't a good defender

Begbie wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:07 pm Anyone watch it on Rugbypass? Apparently that baldy prick Shanklin said Harris isn't a good defender

The 130 in my gambling account doesn't care

Big D wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:09 pm

Begbie wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:07 pm Anyone watch it on Rugbypass? Apparently that baldy prick Shanklin said Harris isn't a good defender

The 130 in my gambling account doesn't care

Enjoy your winnings

Chris Harris has been the most polarising Scotland player I can remember for a long time with fans.

Fair play to him. Also what a recruitment tool for the SRU. We took a 25 year old Newcastle falcons 13 and turned him into a British and Irish Lion.

KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:03 pm Really pleasantly surprised by the picks and 8 is beyond my expectations. There are a few slightly surprising picks including Aki (not a first choice for Ireland), Lawes (long term injured this year) and Conan (although I think he's been brilliant for Leinster this year, he isn't a worldy type player). Harris is probably the Scottish one that will be questioned, but I think he deserves it and he'll be a dirt tracker anyway. Altogether though, even though there are a few surprises I wouldn't say any are massively controversial.

I honestly don't think Harris should be questioned. Not every player needs to picked because they are possible test starters. He will be key to bedding in the defensive system within the squad. Given the time restrictions that can't be under estimated.

Begbie wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:11 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:09 pm

Begbie wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:07 pm Anyone watch it on Rugbypass? Apparently that baldy prick Shanklin said Harris isn't a good defender

The 130 in my gambling account doesn't care

Enjoy your winnings

Ta. SomersetJock is on for 300+ I think.

I'm happy with my 20 quid

Big D wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:14 pm

Begbie wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:11 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:09 pm

The 130 in my gambling account doesn't care

Enjoy your winnings

Ta. SomersetJock is on for 300+ I think.

£350 + my £50 stake which I always write off when I bet as I never bloody win

Well chuffed though.

Really pleased for the 8 lads who have made it

SomersetJock wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:18 pm
£350 + my £50 stake which I always write off when I bet as I never bloody win

Well chuffed though.

Really pleased for the 8 lads who have made it

Good man.

SomersetJock wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:18 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:14 pm

Begbie wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:11 pm

Enjoy your winnings

Ta. SomersetJock is on for 300+ I think.

£350 + my £50 stake which I always write off when I bet as I never bloody win

Well chuffed though.

Really pleased for the 8 lads who have made it

Took some stones to bet on Harris! I honestly didn’t believe it until the squad was announced.

Edinburgh have 3 Lions and Glasgow 2.

Chuffed for the 8 picked but in particular for Harris who has been excellent for us the past while

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:22 pm

SomersetJock wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:18 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:14 pm

Ta. SomersetJock is on for 300+ I think.

£350 + my £50 stake which I always write off when I bet as I never bloody win

Well chuffed though.

Really pleased for the 8 lads who have made it

Took some stones to bet on Harris! I honestly didn’t believe it until the squad was announced.

As soon as Gregor and Tandy got the jobs I was fairly confident. When North got injured I had very little doubts. The 7-1 odds were just irresistible

Big D wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:13 pm

KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:03 pm Really pleasantly surprised by the picks and 8 is beyond my expectations. There are a few slightly surprising picks including Aki (not a first choice for Ireland), Lawes (long term injured this year) and Conan (although I think he's been brilliant for Leinster this year, he isn't a worldy type player). Harris is probably the Scottish one that will be questioned, but I think he deserves it and he'll be a dirt tracker anyway. Altogether though, even though there are a few surprises I wouldn't say any are massively controversial.

I honestly don't think Harris should be questioned. Not every player needs to picked because they are possible test starters. He will be key to bedding in the defensive system within the squad. Given the time restrictions that can't be under estimated.

To be clear I think he's a great pick, I just think the perception of him outside of Scotland is likely to be less favourable. It's the same as Conan, I've only seen him a few times this year so text an Irish mate for the Irish view - he thinks he's been brilliant all year and probably Leinster's POTY.

Aw fuck. Bastard called our bluff.

8 players plus Townsend and Tandy. If the Lions get pumped everyone's going to blame us now.

Apparently the largest contingent in 32 years

KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:37 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:13 pm

KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:03 pm Really pleasantly surprised by the picks and 8 is beyond my expectations. There are a few slightly surprising picks including Aki (not a first choice for Ireland), Lawes (long term injured this year) and Conan (although I think he's been brilliant for Leinster this year, he isn't a worldy type player). Harris is probably the Scottish one that will be questioned, but I think he deserves it and he'll be a dirt tracker anyway. Altogether though, even though there are a few surprises I wouldn't say any are massively controversial.

I honestly don't think Harris should be questioned. Not every player needs to picked because they are possible test starters. He will be key to bedding in the defensive system within the squad. Given the time restrictions that can't be under estimated.

To be clear I think he's a great pick, I just think the perception of him outside of Scotland is likely to be less favourable. It's the same as Conan, I've only seen him a few times this year so text an Irish mate for the Irish view - he thinks he's been brilliant all year and probably Leinster's POTY.

Yeah I think it is hard for some, especially perhaps those with a more fleeting interest to be noisy when big names miss out.

Some quality back rowers have missed out.
A pack of: Marler, Any of the Scottish hookers/Kelleher, Sinckler, Gray, Ryan, Van der Flier, Navidi and Stander would be bloody handy.