Cricket: T20 World Cup

[Insane_Homer]

de Kock not playing 'for personal reasons' after a taking the knee discrepancy with CSA.

https://cricket.co.za/2021/10/26/csa-bo ... -the-knee/

The Cricket South Africa (CSA) Board on Monday evening unanimously agreed to issue a directive requiring all Proteas players to adopt a consistent and united stance against racism by “taking the knee” prior to the start of their remaining World Cup matches.

Concerns were raised that the different postures taken by team members in support of the BLM initiative created an unintended perception of disparity or lack of support for the initiative.

After considering all relevant issues, including the position of the players, the Board felt that it was imperative for the team to be seen taking a united and consistent stand against racism, especially given SA’s history.

Several other teams at the World Cup have adopted a consistent stance against the issue, and the Board felt it is time for all SA players to do the same.

“Taking the knee” is the global gesture against racism adopted by sportspeople across sporting codes because they recognise the power sport has to bring people together.

[FalseBayFC]

Oh FFS! If that's the case I would be quite happy to see us lose and not make the semis. Not because I oppose the cause or the act of taking the knee. Removing the right to choose is wrong.

[Torquemada 1420]

South Africa chose to field

[handyman]

I like Markram opening the bowling. Sneaking in a over by a part timer when the batsmen aren't looking to score.

[FalseBayFC]

Faf and AB were right to quit this shitshow!

[handyman]

Oh FFS! If that's the case I would be quite happy to see us lose and not make the semis. Not because I oppose the cause or the act of taking the knee. Removing the right to choose is wrong.

The governing by our cricket body is unbelievably poor. They make poor decision after poor decision.

[FalseBayFC]

Oh FFS! If that's the case I would be quite happy to see us lose and not make the semis. Not because I oppose the cause or the act of taking the knee. Removing the right to choose is wrong.

The governing by our cricket body is unbelievably poor. They make poor decision after poor decision.

De Kock must now make a break for it too. The IPL and Big Bash etc could set him up for life.

[handyman]

Lewis pulling a Bavuma, 1 run of 9 deliveries.

[handyman]

Lewis pulling a Bavuma, 1 run of 9 deliveries.

Is Markram finally fulfilling his massive potential? 2 overs for 4 runs. Batted well in the first game.

[handyman]

Oh FFS! If that's the case I would be quite happy to see us lose and not make the semis. Not because I oppose the cause or the act of taking the knee. Removing the right to choose is wrong.

The governing by our cricket body is unbelievably poor. They make poor decision after poor decision.

De Kock must now make a break for it too. The IPL and Big Bash etc could set him up for life.

Another world cup ruined by the governing body unable to let the players do what they're picked to do. These things should have been discussed and decided months ago.

[Rinkals]

Lewis going after Narkram.

[Insane_Homer]

Is Markram finally fulfilling his massive potential?

not in that over.

[Rinkals]

Huge gamble to bowl Markram at Lewis in the powerplay.

Unsurprisingly, Lewis takes full advantage.

[Insane_Homer]

FFS keeper drops a sitter!

[Rinkals]

Two catchable balls grassed now.

This is going to get messy.

[Calculon]

Faf and AB were right to quit this shitshow!

Yip, come on Windies!

Hope we get thrashed

[Thor Sedan]

Oh FFS! If that's the case I would be quite happy to see us lose and not make the semis. Not because I oppose the cause or the act of taking the knee. Removing the right to choose is wrong.

What would be the reason that players wouldn't take the knee?

I mean - is this a refusal because they don't agree with the sentiment, don't believe there is a problem, feel that the gesture is redundant, insufficient?

Seems like an odd hill to die on?

[Paddington Bear]

Almost match fixingly bad batting here.

[sorCrer]

Oh FFS! If that's the case I would be quite happy to see us lose and not make the semis. Not because I oppose the cause or the act of taking the knee. Removing the right to choose is wrong.

What would be the reason that players wouldn't take the knee?

I mean - is this a refusal because they don't agree with the sentiment, don't believe there is a problem, feel that the gesture is redundant, insufficient?

Seems like an odd hill to die on?

I will not take the knee for any man or cause. It's plain stupid. Forcing someone to do it is even worse. Have some respect for yourself.

[Insane_Homer]

I will not take the knee for any man or cause. It's plain stupid. Forcing someone to do it is even worse. Have some respect for yourself.

Suggesting taking the knee in solidarity with a cause is lacking in self respect is quite simply the dumbest thing I've read in quite some time.

[Rinkals]

If half your team feels strongly about taking the knee, why would you refuse to do so?

If you put yourself directly against your team mates, you are obviously risking dividing the team which only benefits the opposition.

If I played for a team where half the side felt that racism was an issue, I would kneel with them, whether I believed in it or not.

FFS.

[Thor Sedan]

Oh FFS! If that's the case I would be quite happy to see us lose and not make the semis. Not because I oppose the cause or the act of taking the knee. Removing the right to choose is wrong.

What would be the reason that players wouldn't take the knee?

I mean - is this a refusal because they don't agree with the sentiment, don't believe there is a problem, feel that the gesture is redundant, insufficient?

Seems like an odd hill to die on?

I will not take the knee for any man or cause. It's plain stupid. Forcing someone to do it is even worse. Have some respect for yourself.

Did you thump your chest and eat a small mammal while you wrote this?

Are you saying that trying to highlight the struggle that racism still exists is stupid?

Also - I have plenty of respect for myself due to the fact that I am secure enough to see and understand issues that sit outside my personal situation. Respecting others is not disrespecting myself.....what an odd thing to level at someone you have never met.

[handyman]

If half your team feels strongly about taking the knee, why would you refuse to do so?

If you put yourself directly against your team mates, you are obviously risking dividing the team which only benefits the opposition.

If I played for a team where half the side felt that racism was an issue, I would kneel with them, whether I believed in it or not.

FFS.

Why wait until the World Cup to decide it?

[Thor Sedan]

If half your team feels strongly about taking the knee, why would you refuse to do so?

If you put yourself directly against your team mates, you are obviously risking dividing the team which only benefits the opposition.

If I played for a team where half the side felt that racism was an issue, I would kneel with them, whether I believed in it or not.

FFS.

Put much more succinctly than I managed.

It is such an odd thing to exclude yourself from......unless......well......

[OomStruisbaai]

Oh FFS! If that's the case I would be quite happy to see us lose and not make the semis. Not because I oppose the cause or the act of taking the knee. Removing the right to choose is wrong.

This, fuck the Proteas

[Thor Sedan]

Think SA will be annoyed at Rabada for getting rid of the painful Simmons? Leaving him out there for another few overs would have been an outstanding result.

Easily the most selfish innings I have seen in T20's for a long time.

[Big Nipper]

What would be the reason that players wouldn't take the knee?

I mean - is this a refusal because they don't agree with the sentiment, don't believe there is a problem, feel that the gesture is redundant, insufficient?

Seems like an odd hill to die on?

I will not take the knee for any man or cause. It's plain stupid. Forcing someone to do it is even worse. Have some respect for yourself.

Did you thump your chest and eat a small mammal while you wrote this?

Are you saying that trying to highlight the struggle that racism still exists is stupid?

Also - I have plenty of respect for myself due to the fact that I am secure enough to see and understand issues that sit outside my personal situation. Respecting others is not disrespecting myself.....what an odd thing to level at someone you have never met.

It is a lost cause trying to convince old white saffas that taking the knee is not some sort of blasphemy. They will tell you 27yrs of democracy is enough reperations for 400yrs of tyranny against black folk.

[Calculon]

If half your team feels strongly about taking the knee, why would you refuse to do so?

If you put yourself directly against your team mates, you are obviously risking dividing the team which only benefits the opposition.

If I played for a team where half the side felt that racism was an issue, I would kneel with them, whether I believed in it or not.

FFS.

The only thing that is causing a problem is this CSA directive, done purely to cover their own arse before the ANC politicians . None of his team mates have expressed any issue with his actions and he's a popular player. We'll see how much the proteas bennefits by not playing their best player

Edit: also don't be a prick and claim the reason he doesn't take the knee is because he thinks racsim is not a problem, prick.

[sorCrer]

I will not take the knee for any man or cause. It's plain stupid. Forcing someone to do it is even worse. Have some respect for yourself.

Suggesting taking the knee in solidarity with a cause is lacking in self respect is quite simply the dumbest thing I've read in quite some time.

Being FORCED to take the knee.

[OomStruisbaai]

I will not take the knee for any man or cause. It's plain stupid. Forcing someone to do it is even worse. Have some respect for yourself.

Did you thump your chest and eat a small mammal while you wrote this?

Are you saying that trying to highlight the struggle that racism still exists is stupid?

Also - I have plenty of respect for myself due to the fact that I am secure enough to see and understand issues that sit outside my personal situation. Respecting others is not disrespecting myself.....what an odd thing to level at someone you have never met.

It is a lost cause trying to convince old white saffas that taking the knee is not some sort of blasphemy. They will tell you 27yrs of democracy is enough reperations for 400yrs of tyranny against black folk.

Ja vok, de Kock is an old white Saffa who CAN play cricket.

He,ll be a racist for his principles.

[Rinkals]

Oh FFS! If that's the case I would be quite happy to see us lose and not make the semis. Not because I oppose the cause or the act of taking the knee. Removing the right to choose is wrong.

This, fuck the Proteas

So, because a side is taking a stand against racism, you would be happy to see them lose?

WTF?

So, it looks like most of the Saffers on here don't want to see the Proteas win?

Christ!

[sorCrer]

I will not take the knee for any man or cause. It's plain stupid. Forcing someone to do it is even worse. Have some respect for yourself.

Did you thump your chest and eat a small mammal while you wrote this?

Are you saying that trying to highlight the struggle that racism still exists is stupid?

Also - I have plenty of respect for myself due to the fact that I am secure enough to see and understand issues that sit outside my personal situation. Respecting others is not disrespecting myself.....what an odd thing to level at someone you have never met.

It is a lost cause trying to convince old white saffas that taking the knee is not some sort of blasphemy. They will tell you 27yrs of democracy is enough reperations for 400yrs of tyranny against black folk.

Please don't think you speak for me. I fully acknowledge that racism exists. I don't see how forcing someone to do something helps. All t does it drive racism underground and make people more resentful of race.

[Big Nipper]

Oh FFS! If that's the case I would be quite happy to see us lose and not make the semis. Not because I oppose the cause or the act of taking the knee. Removing the right to choose is wrong.

This, fuck the Proteas

So, because a side is taking a stand against racism, you would be happy to see them lose?

WTF?

So, it looks like most of the Saffers on here don't want to see the Proteas win?

Christ!

It is ridiculous. OomPB just reaffirming that an old racist cannot change its spots. I cannot believe some of the comments here.

[handyman]

Nortje really bowling well.

[Big Nipper]

Did you thump your chest and eat a small mammal while you wrote this?

Are you saying that trying to highlight the struggle that racism still exists is stupid?

Also - I have plenty of respect for myself due to the fact that I am secure enough to see and understand issues that sit outside my personal situation. Respecting others is not disrespecting myself.....what an odd thing to level at someone you have never met.

It is a lost cause trying to convince old white saffas that taking the knee is not some sort of blasphemy. They will tell you 27yrs of democracy is enough reperations for 400yrs of tyranny against black folk.

Please don't think you speak for me. I fully acknowledge that racism exists. I don't see how forcing someone to do something helps. All t does it drive racism underground and make people more resentful of race.

WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

[FalseBayFC]

I will not take the knee for any man or cause. It's plain stupid. Forcing someone to do it is even worse. Have some respect for yourself.

Did you thump your chest and eat a small mammal while you wrote this?

Are you saying that trying to highlight the struggle that racism still exists is stupid?

Also - I have plenty of respect for myself due to the fact that I am secure enough to see and understand issues that sit outside my personal situation. Respecting others is not disrespecting myself.....what an odd thing to level at someone you have never met.

It is a lost cause trying to convince old white saffas that taking the knee is not some sort of blasphemy. They will tell you 27yrs of democracy is enough reperations for 400yrs of tyranny against black folk.

Bullshit! Stop being so right on! This is another cock up by a useless and corrupt sports body that has ruined yet another world cup for us. Making kneeling mandatory a compulsory act is ludicrous and makes a mockery of everything that BLM stands for. Its an over reaction.

And your ridiculous generalizations about older white people cause a divisiveness which is becoming more and more entrenched in our country.

[FalseBayFC]

It is a lost cause trying to convince old white saffas that taking the knee is not some sort of blasphemy. They will tell you 27yrs of democracy is enough reperations for 400yrs of tyranny against black folk.

Please don't think you speak for me. I fully acknowledge that racism exists. I don't see how forcing someone to do something helps. All t does it drive racism underground and make people more resentful of race.

WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

Making it an obligatory act voids it of all meaning.

[Rinkals]

Did you thump your chest and eat a small mammal while you wrote this?

Are you saying that trying to highlight the struggle that racism still exists is stupid?

Also - I have plenty of respect for myself due to the fact that I am secure enough to see and understand issues that sit outside my personal situation. Respecting others is not disrespecting myself.....what an odd thing to level at someone you have never met.

It is a lost cause trying to convince old white saffas that taking the knee is not some sort of blasphemy. They will tell you 27yrs of democracy is enough reperations for 400yrs of tyranny against black folk.

Please don't think you speak for me. I fully acknowledge that racism exists. I don't see how forcing someone to do something helps. All t does it drive racism underground and make people more resentful of race.

As I understand it, Graeme Smith wanted it to be a uniform stand. Either all kneeling, all standing with fist aloft or all just standing there doing nothing, and I think it's fair enough.

It really looked odd with half the side kneeling and the others making a fist or kicking their heels.

If you are not prepared, as a team, to make a common stand on an issue that some feel strongly about, then you are not really a team, are you?

[Thor Sedan]

I will not take the knee for any man or cause. It's plain stupid. Forcing someone to do it is even worse. Have some respect for yourself.

Suggesting taking the knee in solidarity with a cause is lacking in self respect is quite simply the dumbest thing I've read in quite some time.

Being FORCED to take the knee.

Why would he need to be forced? Why wouldn't he want to?

[Sandstorm]

Anyway, back to the cricket…..SA pulling back the score here with some great bowling.