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20 minutes to go, but pondering if there's still time for a wildcard bet on the unthinkable -- the Pumas taking out the Championship.
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Still fancy Oz to win. Argies will tire.
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Ha ha. Lavanini just automatically assumed that it was he who was being sent off.
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Keep me up to date on scores please, I'm sitting in a conference room listening to someone bang on about magnetometers
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:39 pm Keep me up to date on scores please, I'm sitting in a conference room listening to someone bang on about magnetometers
Pen try to Aus, 27 - 26 in their favour with 15 to play.
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27 - 26 Australia Argentina trying for a world record of most penalties given away in a half
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Either the refs a cvnt or Argentina have gone back to being, well Argentina :???:
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PCPhil wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:42 pm Eigher the refs a cvnt or Argentina have gone back t9 being, well Argentina :???:
Its Adamson
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This half break foot must be the latest WR directive
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He is even getting his language wrong...using French "avantage" instead of Spanish "ventaja"
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ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:48 pm He is even getting his language wrong...using French "avantage" instead of Spanish "ventaja"
And he thinks it's Portuguese.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Ridiculous ending
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wtf, they gave that try at the end?

That is fucking scandalous
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Wallaby orange looks good. :thumbup:
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Koalabyte wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:07 pm Wallaby orange looks good. :thumbup:
Orange is the new All Black?
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Koalabyte wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:07 pm Wallaby orange looks good. :thumbup:
No
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Gumboot wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:40 pm I'm sorry, but we look to be well off the pace in most areas of the modern test game. Captaincy may be one of those areas, but it's not the All Blacks' biggest concern right now by a long shot. imho.
Correct, but Cane in his current form is also a poor 7. And that's the more important concern.
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So, the Aremdse red card.

Bad enough to go down to 14 for the rest of the match or should SA have been able to go back up to 15?

I know in this game it doesn't matter because it was so late but if that had been on the first half should they ha e gone back up to 15?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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convoluted wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:22 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:17 pm Quade Cooper is such a gifted player
... and damnit he might be out for the duration.
The classiest Championship back on display this weekend.
Not just the duration of the Championship, but will probably miss the World Cup.
It's an Achilles, which apparently takes a year to come right, and the Cup is in 13 months.

But he's making defiant noises:

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Biffer wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:27 pm So, the Aremdse red card.

Bad enough to go down to 14 for the rest of the match or should SA have been able to go back up to 15?

I know in this game it doesn't matter because it was so late but if that had been on the first half should they ha e gone back up to 15?
Rush of blood from the youngster. Deserved full match.
Hope they are both OK. It looked ugly for both.
Regarding Arendse. I want to see more of him.
Bloody hell. I don't know how long it is sustainable with a tiny frame like his, whenever I see these exciting tiny players I always worry that they are one match away from a serious injury.
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Too much made of the coaches being responsible here.
There was no standout AB player for me. The forwards were weak. Not top level international standard. Easily dominated in the collision. How does a coach fix that. Mind there was one standout for me. The replacement scrumhalf impressed me. One for the future. But until NZ can start producing some hard and big forwards you are always going to have to put your backline under pressure. Look I thought that they held the bok scrum quite effectively. Most of our scrum penalties were technical or an overextension or slip. I don't think we dominated at all. Also you Easily countered our rolling maul. We had the wrong personell on in the first half in my opinion. Thomas and Ox are our best maulers and have been very strong in the URC in terms of scrumming. So their exclusion is a mystery. So it doesn't get easier I am afraid. Maybe your scouts should be looking to lure some prime young beef to your shores. With the state South Africa is in our youngsters would jump at the opportunity. Imagine Roos playing for the ABs. I would bet he has no match. NH and Springbok rugby is built around set pieces. AB and Aus rugby tries to work around the set pieces. ABs try to avoid collisions and move the ball at pace. We take contact. We dominate the contact. Defensive systems are just too good to try run through a team in these days.
For me watching the ABs yesterday I just felt they really are nothing special as far as the players go. I am not surprised the Irish won the series. It's a professional sport now. NZ just do not have the population to sustain superiority in rugby. Based on what I saw 5th rank is probably a fair reflection
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Thank fuck I did not sit up till 2AM watching that abortion of a game of rugby. If anything we are getting worse.
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Kiwias wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:47 am Thank fuck I did not sit up till 2AM watching that abortion of a game of rugby. If anything we are getting worse.
Yep, not a chance in hell I'm getting up again next weekend.
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Before we get too carried away, I still think there are a few issues with the Bok team. If we can address some of these by next Saturday, we should be able to put up a more comprehensive score.

Malherbe not really pulling his weight, evident by the shift that Marx and Trevor put in. I'd like to see Ox or Spicy Plum start ahead of him next week.
Our rolling mauls never never really kicked in. Thankfully this did force us to play the ball a bit more, but we need to fix this.
Overall I think Jaden did very well considering the circumstances, but he still needs some more accuracy on his high kicks.
I still think our backline attack is muted without Willie on the field. Willemse is definitely improving, but we still a proper playmaker at the back.
The injury to Faf shows the dangers of the 6-2 bench. We were lucky not to pick up any further injuries.
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Gumboot wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:02 am
Kiwias wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:47 am Thank fuck I did not sit up till 2AM watching that abortion of a game of rugby. If anything we are getting worse.
Yep, not a chance in hell I'm getting up again next weekend.
As I’m working nights this week I tried a replay I found on YouTube… but knowing the result, I couldn’t deal with Marshall flapping his jaws like a rabbit on acid and gave up after skimming the first half.

Nothing positive in any of it.
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assfly wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:47 am Before we get too carried away, I still think there are a few issues with the Bok team. If we can address some of these by next Saturday, we should be able to put up a more comprehensive score.

Malherbe not really pulling his weight, evident by the shift that Marx and Trevor put in. I'd like to see Ox or Spicy Plum start ahead of him next week.
Our rolling mauls never never really kicked in. Thankfully this did force us to play the ball a bit more, but we need to fix this.
Overall I think Jaden did very well considering the circumstances, but he still needs some more accuracy on his high kicks.
I still think our backline attack is muted without Willie on the field. Willemse is definitely improving, but we still a proper playmaker at the back.
The injury to Faf shows the dangers of the 6-2 bench. We were lucky not to pick up any further injuries.
Agree with all of this. The papers are saying that Jaden waa very accurate with his kicking. I just felt the ABs were poor in dealing with it. I don't think Willemse had a good game. Really created nothing. His 50/ 20 kicking which they are obviously working on hasn't paid off. He got charged for the AB try. Willie is just another dimension above. Any news on Arendse injury. Now there is something special happening.
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And in other news Australia got the bonus point win. Charging onwards. Watch this dark horse.
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Kiwias wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:47 am Thank fuck I did not sit up till 2AM watching that abortion of a game of rugby. If anything we are getting worse.
As far as a game goes it wasn't a bad match at all.
Kiwi supporters may not appreciate the result which was very flattering to the ABs but it was a decent game.
You won't beat the SA teamn in an arm wrestle or with the lack of discipline you displayed.
Not playing an expansive gave when ever you could and taking contact rather than offloading fecked you up.
Sam Cane was a passenger who really is not upto the task.
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{EDITSorry. Misread the red. :oops:
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Sards wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:05 am And in other news Australia got the bonus point win. Charging onwards. Watch this dark horse.
The last try was a disgrace with 2 blatant forward passes.
SA will destroy them up front. They are weak as fuck.
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Sards wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:00 am Any news on Arendse injury. Now there is something special happening.
He had a good game but still lots to work on. He looked a bit clumsy under the high ball, even before the red card. I can see him getting at least 4 weeks for that challenge, which is fully deserved as his technique couldn't be worse.

The question is who starts at 14 next week. This is where I wish Nkosi was fit, but I suppose Kriel will get the nod with Willie staying on the bench.
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Interested in Thoughts on pecking order of France, SA, Ireland at this ‘exact’ moment. Personally I feel that Ireland would be in best position to win away game in SA but would prob lose away to France. France would probably smash anyone at home. SA are immense in the pack but at the mo seem to have a mindset that every set play, no matter where on the field it is, must have a kick at some point. But things can change.
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Biffer wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:27 pm So, the Aremdse red card.

Bad enough to go down to 14 for the rest of the match or should SA have been able to go back up to 15?

I know in this game it doesn't matter because it was so late but if that had been on the first half should they ha e gone back up to 15?
Yes but he wouldn't come back after 20 mins. Replacement player for the red.
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PCPhil wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:50 am Interested in Thoughts on pecking order of France, SA, Ireland at this ‘exact’ moment. Personally I feel that Ireland would be in best position to win away game in SA but would prob lose away to France. France would probably smash anyone at home. SA are immense in the pack but at the mo seem to have a mindset that every set play, no matter where on the field it is, must have a kick at some point. But things can change.
The Boks EYT will answer this. At the moment we must take it one test at a time. The Boks show yesterday that they can beat any team on the day. Remember last WC they lost in round 1 but played like yesterday in the final. Our rush defense Boks and URC franchise is very good.
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C69 wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:07 am
Sards wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:05 am And in other news Australia got the bonus point win. Charging onwards. Watch this dark horse.
The last try was a disgrace with 2 blatant forward passes.
SA will destroy them up front. They are weak as fuck.
For some reason we struggle in Australia. But that can change. We took 8 years to beat the All Blacks at home, so surely RasNaber will want to put that record right.
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assfly wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:22 am
Sards wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:00 am Any news on Arendse injury. Now there is something special happening.
He had a good game but still lots to work on. He looked a bit clumsy under the high ball, even before the red card. I can see him getting at least 4 weeks for that challenge, which is fully deserved as his technique couldn't be worse.

The question is who starts at 14 next week. This is where I wish Nkosi was fit, but I suppose Kriel will get the nod with Willie staying on the bench.
Will be either Kriel or Fassi
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C69 wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:05 am
Kiwias wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:47 am Thank fuck I did not sit up till 2AM watching that abortion of a game of rugby. If anything we are getting worse.
As far as a game goes it wasn't a bad match at all.
Kiwi supporters may not appreciate the result which was very flattering to the ABs but it was a decent game.
You won't beat the SA teamn in an arm wrestle or with the lack of discipline you displayed.
Not playing an expansive gave when ever you could and taking contact rather than offloading fecked you up.
Sam Cane was a passenger who really is not upto the task.
We can't play an expansive game without some degree of dominance at the breakdown, which right now we do not have, without a proper first five running the backline, and without the players in their best positions (Mo'unga, R Ioane, and Will Jordan in particular).
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:03 am Will be either Kriel or Fassi
Fassi was released from the squad.
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assfly wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:11 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:03 am Will be either Kriel or Fassi
Fassi was released from the squad.
They'll call him back.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:08 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:04 pm The highlights of Boks NZ are playing during HT of Arg Aus.

There are big chants of "All Blacks" going up, do a lot of South Africans still support the ABs over the Boks? I believe that was the case a while ago.
Yes they have big support from the coloured community all over the Western Cape. It's a culture back from the apartheid days.
They are fair weather fans though and have only ever supported dominant sides (ABs and Crusaders) and with the current run of AB performances they have been nice and quiet. It’s bloody lovely.
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