Concussion Legal Action Against WR

[Line6 HXFX]

Players still have to stick their heads in rucks and mauls and scrums. That is where Alex Popham got his 70 thousand micro concussions from over the course of his career.

If horse riders had to ride horses from the underneath of their horses and their heads were constantly getting battered by the hoves of a horse, you would all be sickened that you were watching and supporting such a spectacle.
Rugby head jnjuries are exactly like that. They are incidental not accidental. Those collisions are happening all the time.
Your head is going to be in places a human head shouldn't be, your brain is going to smash into the inside of your skull, and your brain hasn't got enough fluid around it to protect it, and is not designed for that shite.

Rugby is screwed. There is no way around it.

The only way to save it, is to start attacking and blaming players who come down with Motor Neurons, Early Onset and CTE and aghast supporters who think " fuck that".

The whole culture surrounding Rugby is going to have to become fucking disgusting, like boxing or dogfighting, where people repelled by it are to be called pussies or soft cocks.

As it is supported by seemingly all right wing fucking idiots, that shouldn't be too much of a problem.

[Niegs]

I think rugby's conservative element is too strong for it to change significantly in the short term. I wonder if this rise in cards and downplaying what should be more severe punishment is going to be used by the lawsuit lawyers and end up frying WR? Tucker talks about needing to change behaviour, that their plan didn't work, and yet powerful individuals/unions didn't want to lower tackles to the waist... yet we hear from the French that it opened the game up.

In other news, Matt Williams is a dickhead.

[Niegs]

New lawsuit...

[Torquemada 1420]

In other news, Matt Williams is a dickhead.

Already covered on the previous page but yeah
a) He's a f**kwit on this one.
b) He should not be given a platform to provide what is blatant misinformation.

[fishfoodie]

Already covered on the previous page but yeah
a) He's a f**kwit on this one.
b) He should not be given a platform to provide what is blatant misinformation.

Yep, he's the typical, "Empty Vessel", that makes all the noise. For Irish TV he's a rent-a-gob, because he a former Leinster coach, & he's from the SH, so he looks a bit neutral.

The platform is only Virgin median, not exactly a widely available media. This clip has only gotten wide viewership, because he's being an ignorant bell end, & is talking complete bollox, about an important topic, & thus his bollox is relevant to how Rugby seriously needs to reform. This isn't one of those, Balance, pieces; this is just exposing the ignorance that needs to be torn down.

[Niegs]

Ross talking numbers...


... going through his examples, that so many officials rated the second head shot a yellow is worrying (infuriating to me). If the intention of the framework was to get players to change their behaviour, bending at the waist to tackle lower (rather than strictly enforce waist or lower tackles, which was the option), then how does a slap on the wrist get them to go down. It doesn't, imo. I foresee things like this coming into future lawsuits. "Well, your honour, you can see here how a lot of people in power aren't that serious about punishing/reducing instances of players getting hit in the head."

[Torquemada 1420]

Meantime, in Clermont, Lapandry has come out over his repeat concussions and how ASM treated him. The Auvergnats seem in a permanent, downward spiral of their own making.

[Line6 HXFX]

R.I.P Doddie Weir.
Rugby isn't worth this shit.
Haskell was saying recently how rugby is boring and not worth the entrance fee to international matches. If it isn't worth the entrance fee, it certainly isn't worth peoples fucking lives, brains, cognitive abilities, mobility, and their families traumatised and ruined.

Studies find 23% of elite players have abnormal brain structures.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... finds.html

Why one earth are you still watching and supporting this?

[Torquemada 1420]

Football increasingly in the firing line
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63911885

[Line6 HXFX]

Was talking to a rugby coach (doing his level 2) yesterday, his whole approach to this subject was to treat Ryan Jones like royalists treat Meghan Markle.
He ranted about Ryan Jones for fifteen minutes, getting angrier and angrier. I had no idea what he was angry about, not sure he knew either.
But he really didn't like Ryan Jones.
It seemed like he had been shitting on Ryan Jones for ages, whenever this conversation came up.
His big one (this was the level) was Ryan Jones didn't have CTE, even though his Specialist said he had the worst case he has ever seen, in Rugby players.

If Rugby isn't survivjng the "me" in a pub test, where i can change a rugby coaches opinion of the game, it really is fucked folks,

Oh and the arguements are "I played rugby all my life I haven't got it" (guy wasn't in that great shape mentally just saying, so not really the ambassador you would really want saying that).
Meghan Markelling.."Ryan Jones is a piece of shit".
And denial that players have it at all, or are doing it for money.

There you go, this is what is going to save professional rugby.


I wouldn't want to be on that team tbh.

[Gumboot]

You're such a tiresomely pretentious virtue seeker, Refry.

[Paddington Bear]

Football increasingly in the firing line
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63911885

I wonder how much this will remain a factor given how light the ball is now compared to back in the day?

[Niegs]

Football increasingly in the firing line
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63911885

I wonder how much this will remain a factor given how light the ball is now compared to back in the day?

I just did a small report on this and that's the dilemma in a bunch of sports. Practices weren't good even 10+ years ago. Maybe the changes will help, but maybe we won't know if that's true for another 10-30 years?

[JM2K6]

Slightly worrying little tidbit in the most recent Courtney Lawes interview...

“Generally it’s your genetics which will determine if you get things like dementia and stuff like how much you’re drinking, other recreational things, and how healthy you keep yourself in later life. Because I’m pretty good on that stuff anyway that reassured me.”

Ummmmm

[Enzedder]

You're such a tiresomely pretentious virtue seeker, Refry.

What - because he likes our Meg?

[Gumboot]

You're such a tiresomely pretentious virtue seeker, Refry.

What - because he likes our Meg?

Nah, it's just that he's rather fond of piously berating all and sundry for supporting such a barbaric sport - shame on us! - only to then pop up on a rugby-related thread happily discussing the latest Welsh coaching developments or some such. Seems a tad contradictory to me, but hey ho.

[Brazil]

Slightly worrying little tidbit in the most recent Courtney Lawes interview...

“Generally it’s your genetics which will determine if you get things like dementia and stuff like how much you’re drinking, other recreational things, and how healthy you keep yourself in later life. Because I’m pretty good on that stuff anyway that reassured me.”

Ummmmm

Doesn't he have form for woo?

[JM2K6]

Slightly worrying little tidbit in the most recent Courtney Lawes interview...

“Generally it’s your genetics which will determine if you get things like dementia and stuff like how much you’re drinking, other recreational things, and how healthy you keep yourself in later life. Because I’m pretty good on that stuff anyway that reassured me.”

Ummmmm

Doesn't he have form for woo?

Possibly, he's very much a ~FREE SPEECH~ guy who has said many a dickhead thing on Twitter so he's a prime breeding ground for conspiracy theories

I was mostly worried that the specialists were giving him the RFU/World Rugby party line on the effects of repeat concussion though!

[Torquemada 1420]

Slightly worrying little tidbit in the most recent Courtney Lawes interview...

“Generally it’s your genetics which will determine if you get things like dementia and stuff like how much you’re drinking, other recreational things, and how healthy you keep yourself in later life. Because I’m pretty good on that stuff anyway that reassured me.”

Ummmmm

He not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[inactionman]

Additional action by amateur players:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/ ... n-injuries

[inactionman]

Additional interview with one of the plaintiffs

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/ ... gal-action

[inactionman]

Although not a head injury, it's a noteworthy legal outcome in a very sad case.

A female player was paralysed from the waist down in a 'reckless' tackle (magistrate's words), and the tackler has been found liable for damages.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ing-player

There's images on the internet I won't link to, but looks similar to the 'crusher' tackle that League has had to actively ban - looks like the tackler caught her as she was bent down picking up from a ruck and smashed her downwards.

[Guy Smiley]

Although not a head injury, it's a noteworthy legal outcome in a very sad case.

A female player was paralysed from the waist down in a 'reckless' tackle (magistrate's words), and the tackler has been found liable for damages.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ing-player

There's images on the internet I won't link to, but looks similar to the 'crusher' tackle that League has had to actively ban - looks like the tackler caught her as she was bent down picking up from a ruck and smashed her downwards.

17 stone player cripples smaller player in a revenge move because the smaller player made her look silly earlier.

It's one of the most disgusting acts I've heard of in the game.

[GogLais]

Although not a head injury, it's a noteworthy legal outcome in a very sad case.

A female player was paralysed from the waist down in a 'reckless' tackle (magistrate's words), and the tackler has been found liable for damages.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ing-player

There's images on the internet I won't link to, but looks similar to the 'crusher' tackle that League has had to actively ban - looks like the tackler caught her as she was bent down picking up from a ruck and smashed her downwards.

It was a judge, not a magistrate wasn’t it? It was a civil case, not criminal. Sort of surprising that the police never became involved. Does there have to be a complaint before they can act?

[inactionman]

Although not a head injury, it's a noteworthy legal outcome in a very sad case.

A female player was paralysed from the waist down in a 'reckless' tackle (magistrate's words), and the tackler has been found liable for damages.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ing-player

There's images on the internet I won't link to, but looks similar to the 'crusher' tackle that League has had to actively ban - looks like the tackler caught her as she was bent down picking up from a ruck and smashed her downwards.

It was a judge, not a magistrate wasn’t it? It was a civil case, not criminal. Sort of surprising that the police never became involved. Does there have to be a complaint before they can act?

May be Judge, not sure of convention.

The tackle must have been so far out of the ordinary as to not be within the rules of the game for the civil action to be brought (and won) - players accept a degree of risk but not the risk introduced by someone egregiously not following the agreed laws. At that point, yep, you'd think criminal liability would be looked at - it's a horrible injury with lifechanging consequences.

[Guy Smiley]

The victim sued for compensation...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-berkshire-64747630

A rugby player who sued an opponent over a "revenge" tackle, that left her with a permanent spinal injury, has won a compensation case at the High Court.

Reading Sirens flanker Dani Czernuszka is now paraplegic and will need to use a wheelchair for the rest of her life.

The defendant, Bracknell captain Natasha King, vowed to "break her" during the match in 2017, the court heard.

Ms Czernuszka's lawyers said she could expect a payout of about £10m.

The mother-of-two, then aged 28, was playing her first competitive game when she was injured on 8 October 2017.

As Reading began to dominate the match, Ms King urged her teammates to "smash the number 7", referring to Ms Czernuszka, the High Court heard.

Towards the end, the defendant was winded and "humiliated" when she tried to tackle the claimant, the court was told.

In his ruling, Mr Justice Martin Spencer said Ms King had been "looking for an opportunity to get her revenge on the claimant - the red mist had metaphorically descended".

Ms King, the court heard, announced: "That [swearword] number 7, I'm going to break her."

Three minutes later, she executed a "belly flop" throwing her full 16-17 stone (102-108 kg) weight on to Ms Czernuszka, while pulling her legs, the court heard.

Mr Justice Spencer continued: "The defendant simply gets up and walks away towards her own try line - she shows no concern for the claimant whatsoever.

"These actions are not those of a responsible rugby player. In my opinion, it was a reckless and dangerous act and fell below an acceptable standard of fair play."

Following the judgement, Ms Czernuszka, said: "I am grateful for today's ruling and to finally put to bed all of the untruths and fabrications surrounding what happened during the game that day.

"Learning to live with my life-changing injuries has been difficult and something I could not have done without the support of my family and close friends.

"Sport has always given me great pleasure in life, and I don't blame the game of rugby for what happened that day.

"Ultimately, I feel I was let down by improper and poor behaviour from the opposing player, coaching staff and the referee."

Her solicitor Damian Horan said: "This case is a timely reminder that a player's actions on the pitch never stay on the pitch and can have catastrophic consequences."

Ms King has 21 days to seek permission to appeal.

The offender launched herself at the victim before the ball was passed to her, tackled her in such a way as to bend and crush her over on herself in an unnatural action. Fucking dirty, low act.

[inactionman]

The victim sued for compensation...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-berkshire-64747630

A rugby player who sued an opponent over a "revenge" tackle, that left her with a permanent spinal injury, has won a compensation case at the High Court.

Reading Sirens flanker Dani Czernuszka is now paraplegic and will need to use a wheelchair for the rest of her life.

The defendant, Bracknell captain Natasha King, vowed to "break her" during the match in 2017, the court heard.

Ms Czernuszka's lawyers said she could expect a payout of about £10m.

The mother-of-two, then aged 28, was playing her first competitive game when she was injured on 8 October 2017.

As Reading began to dominate the match, Ms King urged her teammates to "smash the number 7", referring to Ms Czernuszka, the High Court heard.

Towards the end, the defendant was winded and "humiliated" when she tried to tackle the claimant, the court was told.

In his ruling, Mr Justice Martin Spencer said Ms King had been "looking for an opportunity to get her revenge on the claimant - the red mist had metaphorically descended".

Ms King, the court heard, announced: "That [swearword] number 7, I'm going to break her."

Three minutes later, she executed a "belly flop" throwing her full 16-17 stone (102-108 kg) weight on to Ms Czernuszka, while pulling her legs, the court heard.

Mr Justice Spencer continued: "The defendant simply gets up and walks away towards her own try line - she shows no concern for the claimant whatsoever.

"These actions are not those of a responsible rugby player. In my opinion, it was a reckless and dangerous act and fell below an acceptable standard of fair play."

Following the judgement, Ms Czernuszka, said: "I am grateful for today's ruling and to finally put to bed all of the untruths and fabrications surrounding what happened during the game that day.

"Learning to live with my life-changing injuries has been difficult and something I could not have done without the support of my family and close friends.

"Sport has always given me great pleasure in life, and I don't blame the game of rugby for what happened that day.

"Ultimately, I feel I was let down by improper and poor behaviour from the opposing player, coaching staff and the referee."

Her solicitor Damian Horan said: "This case is a timely reminder that a player's actions on the pitch never stay on the pitch and can have catastrophic consequences."

Ms King has 21 days to seek permission to appeal.

The offender launched herself at the victim before the ball was passed to her, tackled her in such a way as to bend and crush her over on herself in an unnatural action. Fucking dirty, low act.

I think plaintiffs always have to sue, unless e.g. an insurer litigates. An open question is why, if she's now paraplegic, was there no interest by the police - they don't need an invitation or to await a filing. Maybe they need a formal referral in cases of injuries at sporting events, I don't know.

It's an awful case, but my reading of the reports suggests the general Bracknell team mentality needs a good looking into. I'm sure many of us have played games where it seemed some of the opposition were only out to hurt someone, but there was a degree of self-regulation in most teams - that sounds absent in this case, and worth noting that the tackler was the captain.

(I exclude pub football from this self-regulation, I played for a good few years for my University staff side and quit as I just got sick of having to dodge legbreakers. Perhaps naively, I hold rugby to a higher standard)

[GogLais]

The victim sued for compensation...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-berkshire-64747630

A rugby player who sued an opponent over a "revenge" tackle, that left her with a permanent spinal injury, has won a compensation case at the High Court.

Reading Sirens flanker Dani Czernuszka is now paraplegic and will need to use a wheelchair for the rest of her life.

The defendant, Bracknell captain Natasha King, vowed to "break her" during the match in 2017, the court heard.

Ms Czernuszka's lawyers said she could expect a payout of about £10m.

The mother-of-two, then aged 28, was playing her first competitive game when she was injured on 8 October 2017.

As Reading began to dominate the match, Ms King urged her teammates to "smash the number 7", referring to Ms Czernuszka, the High Court heard.

Towards the end, the defendant was winded and "humiliated" when she tried to tackle the claimant, the court was told.

In his ruling, Mr Justice Martin Spencer said Ms King had been "looking for an opportunity to get her revenge on the claimant - the red mist had metaphorically descended".

Ms King, the court heard, announced: "That [swearword] number 7, I'm going to break her."

Three minutes later, she executed a "belly flop" throwing her full 16-17 stone (102-108 kg) weight on to Ms Czernuszka, while pulling her legs, the court heard.

Mr Justice Spencer continued: "The defendant simply gets up and walks away towards her own try line - she shows no concern for the claimant whatsoever.

"These actions are not those of a responsible rugby player. In my opinion, it was a reckless and dangerous act and fell below an acceptable standard of fair play."

Following the judgement, Ms Czernuszka, said: "I am grateful for today's ruling and to finally put to bed all of the untruths and fabrications surrounding what happened during the game that day.

"Learning to live with my life-changing injuries has been difficult and something I could not have done without the support of my family and close friends.

"Sport has always given me great pleasure in life, and I don't blame the game of rugby for what happened that day.

"Ultimately, I feel I was let down by improper and poor behaviour from the opposing player, coaching staff and the referee."

Her solicitor Damian Horan said: "This case is a timely reminder that a player's actions on the pitch never stay on the pitch and can have catastrophic consequences."

Ms King has 21 days to seek permission to appeal.

The offender launched herself at the victim before the ball was passed to her, tackled her in such a way as to bend and crush her over on herself in an unnatural action. Fucking dirty, low act.

I think plaintiffs always have to sue, unless e.g. an insurer litigates. An open question is why, if she's now paraplegic, was there no interest by the police - they don't need an invitation or to await a filing. Maybe they need a formal referral in cases of injuries at sporting events, I don't know.

That was my main question really - what triggers police involvement. Just struck me - it’s not the Met is it?

[Sandstorm]

Just struck me - it’s not the Met is it?

No, Thanks Valley Police. Only slightly better....

[Slick]

The victim sued for compensation...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-berkshire-64747630

A rugby player who sued an opponent over a "revenge" tackle, that left her with a permanent spinal injury, has won a compensation case at the High Court.

Reading Sirens flanker Dani Czernuszka is now paraplegic and will need to use a wheelchair for the rest of her life.

The defendant, Bracknell captain Natasha King, vowed to "break her" during the match in 2017, the court heard.

Ms Czernuszka's lawyers said she could expect a payout of about £10m.

The mother-of-two, then aged 28, was playing her first competitive game when she was injured on 8 October 2017.

As Reading began to dominate the match, Ms King urged her teammates to "smash the number 7", referring to Ms Czernuszka, the High Court heard.

Towards the end, the defendant was winded and "humiliated" when she tried to tackle the claimant, the court was told.

In his ruling, Mr Justice Martin Spencer said Ms King had been "looking for an opportunity to get her revenge on the claimant - the red mist had metaphorically descended".

Ms King, the court heard, announced: "That [swearword] number 7, I'm going to break her."

Three minutes later, she executed a "belly flop" throwing her full 16-17 stone (102-108 kg) weight on to Ms Czernuszka, while pulling her legs, the court heard.

Mr Justice Spencer continued: "The defendant simply gets up and walks away towards her own try line - she shows no concern for the claimant whatsoever.

"These actions are not those of a responsible rugby player. In my opinion, it was a reckless and dangerous act and fell below an acceptable standard of fair play."

Following the judgement, Ms Czernuszka, said: "I am grateful for today's ruling and to finally put to bed all of the untruths and fabrications surrounding what happened during the game that day.

"Learning to live with my life-changing injuries has been difficult and something I could not have done without the support of my family and close friends.

"Sport has always given me great pleasure in life, and I don't blame the game of rugby for what happened that day.

"Ultimately, I feel I was let down by improper and poor behaviour from the opposing player, coaching staff and the referee."

Her solicitor Damian Horan said: "This case is a timely reminder that a player's actions on the pitch never stay on the pitch and can have catastrophic consequences."

Ms King has 21 days to seek permission to appeal.

The offender launched herself at the victim before the ball was passed to her, tackled her in such a way as to bend and crush her over on herself in an unnatural action. Fucking dirty, low act.

I think plaintiffs always have to sue, unless e.g. an insurer litigates. An open question is why, if she's now paraplegic, was there no interest by the police - they don't need an invitation or to await a filing. Maybe they need a formal referral in cases of injuries at sporting events, I don't know.

It's an awful case, but my reading of the reports suggests the general Bracknell team mentality needs a good looking into. I'm sure many of us have played games where it seemed some of the opposition were only out to hurt someone, but there was a degree of self-regulation in most teams - that sounds absent in this case, and worth noting that the tackler was the captain.

(I exclude pub football from this self-regulation, I played for a good few years for my University staff side and quit as I just got sick of having to dodge legbreakers. Perhaps naively, I hold rugby to a higher standard)

Never enjoyed playing Bracknell or Redingensians as it happens, but don't recall any particular individuals. I do remember an absolute nutter from Tring though who just spend the whole game trying to hurt people, particularly with the odd head kick, and his team mates just not knowing what to do.

[Line6 HXFX]

So here's an idea, dress all the players up in those green suits with tennis balls on them, get them to play touch rugby in a warehouse,, give everyone iwatching VR headsets (they don't have to be in a crowd, they can watch from home and be in super cool virtual crowd or stadium, surrounded by 100s of thousands of people.) and when a player touches another player, in the warehouse.. run some super violent fucked up animation, where the tackled (sorry "touched") player is f'king buried.
The bloodiest limb breaking impact a animator can produce.
No one will know or care they are actually watching touch rugby.
Could have virtual scrums and breakdowns and rucks without actually people being in them in reality, and the actual players could be thumb wrestling.
Here you go, all the excitement of the most brutal rugby, No one gets dementia, Motor Neurons or CTE.

Punters can enjoy the brutality of it, without thinking they are down there with dog fighting fans or betting on homeless boxing.

You can even be showered in blood, and it won't drip into your pint.

[Sandstorm]

So here's an idea, dress all the players up in those green suits with tennis balls on them, get them to play touch rugby in a warehouse,, give everyone iwatching VR headsets (they don't have to be in a crowd, they can watch from home and be in super cool virtual crowd or stadium, surrounded by 100s of thousands of people.) and when a player touches another player, in the warehouse.. run some super violent fucked up animation, where the tackled (sorry "touched") player is f'king buried.
The bloodiest limb breaking impact a animator can produce.
No one will know they are actually watching touch rugby.
Could work put away to have virtual scrums and breakd9wns and ruck withput actually people being in them in reality, and the actual players could be thumb wrestling.
Here you go, all the exditement, No one gets dementia, Motor Neurons or CTE.

Punters can enjoy the brutality of it, without thinking they are down there with dog fighting fans or betting on homeless boxing.

What about cancer from Bluetooth headsets??? You're a monster!!

[Paddington Bear]

The Defendant, without any regard for the well-being or safety of the Claimant and intent only on exacting revenge, executed the "tackle" in a manner which is not recognised in rugby

However, at this level and against this opposition, the Defendant should have modified her conduct because it was or should have been apparent that the Claimant was treating the situation as though there was still a ruck and had adopted a stance consistent with that, namely the stance of a scrum-half bending down to pick up the ball from the scrum which made her vulnerable as she was stationary, bent over and not suspecting that tackle was coming: so much was, or should have been, obvious to the Defendant.
I therefore find that in this very unusual and exceptional context, the Defendant executing a manoeuvre which was not within the experience of Mr Morrison and virtually outside the experience of Mr Spreadbury, the Defendant is liable to the Claimant for the injuries which the Claimant sustained, and there shall be judgment for the Claimant.

Very relevant that this was a development match and so of very limited application to wider rugby. Interesting to see Ed Morrison and Tony Spreadbury taking a turn as expert witnesses!

Echo that Tring and Bracknell are cunts.

[JM2K6]

Spreadbury really shit the bed on this one.

[Paddington Bear]

Spreadbury really shit the bed on this one.

Reading judgments is often good fun, judges are generally very witty in a polite and subtle manner:

In his report, he took a position which was very different to that of Mr Morrison. He stated his opinion as follows:

In cross-examination, however, Mr Spreadbury resiled from his somewhat extreme position and came much closer to the position of Mr Morrison

It was, however, in relation to the mechanics of the tackle that Mr Spreadbury conceded the whole of the Claimant's case and the views put forward by Mr Morrison in a way which represented a complete volte face from the position he had taken in his report

As Mr Weir submitted, these concessions on the part of Mr Spreadbury put the Defendant in a difficult position.

Two of the essential struts to the Defendant's case had, by the end of Mr Spreadbury's evidence, gone

I was also impressed with the overall evidence of Mr Morrison

[Line6 HXFX]

I mean my idea is to add the virtual world as a layer 'a'top, of touch rugby matches, to increase the excitement, safety, spectacle and where no one really needs to get hurt.

You could even really gore it up (in the virtual world) if you wanted to.

How hard can it be to track 30 players playubg rugby, and instantly turn them into avatars..and broadcast it over the internet, straight to a PC and VR headset and to virtual stadiums, where you can pick the "impact layer" atop you like?





I'm saving lives, over here people.

I mean, we could just ban rugby....and then do it.

[Sandstorm]

I mean my idea is to add the virtual world as a layer 'a'top, of touch rugby matches, to increase the excitement, safety, spectacle and where no one really needs to get hurt.

You could even really gore it up (in the virtual world) if you wanted to.

How hard can it be to track 30 players and instantly turn them into avatars..and broacdcast it over the internet, straight to a PC and VR headset and to virtual stadiums, where you can pick the "impact layer" atop you like?





I'm saving lives, over here people.

I mean, we could just ban rugby....and then do it.

You claim to be a middle-aged Welshman with a wife and a long history of bad luck, when in fact you're actually a 15 year old boy who plays too many video games.

[LenCohen]

The picture of the incident in the report were sickening. Poor woman.

[Grandpa]

Has Ms King showed any remorse at all? She's crippled someone... which should be a criminal act if deliberately done.. and it sounded deliberate... and not even a hint of contrition?

[Paddington Bear]

Has Ms King showed any remorse at all? She's crippled someone... which should be a criminal act if deliberately done.. and it sounded deliberate... and not even a hint of contrition?

TC posted a link to the judgment on the other thread about it, here it is for reference: https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/KB/2023/380.html. I've c&p'd some of the more amusing bits before, but some of that makes for pretty grim reading, but is also a well written judgment that explains how this differs from most rugby injuries.

Bear in mind this is only the judgment, meaning we don't have a copy of her witness statement, defence or any cross examination that took place. It also wasn't a criminal trial. Her barrister seems to have described it as a 'very unfortunate accident', and I'd be fairly surprised if her legal team hadn't tried to make sure she included some gesture of sympathy at least in her submissions. She seems like a piece of shit in general though.

Edit: oh, and the RFU are picking up the bill. Good-o.