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EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:38 am https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... life-trump

I hate Illinois Nazis !

average joe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:07 am I don't think it's fair that a 16 year old girl gets her 3rd abortion and I have to fit the bill via taxation, and I don't get to have a say just because I was born with dangly bits between my legs.
It's my hard earned money and I get taxed into oblivion as it is so that SA politicians can line their pockets. Why should I pay for some young lady somewhere to have unprotected sex?
If you get banged up because of a promiscuous lifestyle and decide you want to abort then pay for it with your own damn money.

Why should you get a free abortion any and every time you get banged up if my mom had to pay out of her own pocket for breast reconstruction after her mastectomy?

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:54 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:27 pm Under what legislation?

8th amendment

Enzedder wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:38 am There will still be abortions in States like Oklahoma.

Just not safe ones.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:22 am

Enzedder wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:38 am There will still be abortions in States like Oklahoma.

Just not safe ones.

Quite. This is what the ostriches are refusing to talk about, abortions will take place and women will die.

However, there are lights in the dark place, California Governor Gavin Newson immediately signed into law protection for women who travel to California to seek the procedure, saying that they will not co-operate with any State which seeks any information on women who have abortions or those who perform the procedure or those who help in any way.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/24/in-re ... er-states/


As an aside, Gov Newsom's distant cousin Joanna Newson is a musician who is worth a listen, if you like a slightly weird singer song-writers who accompany themselves on the harp.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:18 am Next up, in West Virginia vs EPA, the Supreme Court is likely to completely gut the federal government's ability to regulate. Another goal of the cunts ticked off.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:27 am It's amazing what has happened to me. I have a genuine Internet filter that now works. I read about 4 lines of convoluted post and then my brain causes a mist to covet my eyes and I just move onto the next thing. It's amazing. Here saw an interesting thing yesterday in how the populist political figures have managed to cross market for years. In an episode of Seinfled from 1993 Giuliani appears and does a few jokes and a skit of himself running for the very office he was running for. His opponent Dinkins was reluctant to get involved and guess who won and won again. The NY TV and film set really sorted Trump and his cronies up good. Idiots

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:27 am It's amazing what has happened to me. I have a genuine Internet filter that now works. I read about 4 lines of convoluted post and then my brain causes a mist to covet my eyes and I just move onto the next thing. It's amazing. Here saw an interesting thing yesterday in how the populist political figures have managed to cross market for years. In an episode of Seinfled from 1993 Giuliani appears and does a few jokes and a skit of himself running for the very office he was running for. His opponent Dinkins was reluctant to get involved and guess who won and won again. The NY TV and film set really sorted Trump and his cronies up good. Idiots

New York City Mayor Eric Adams suggested Tuesday that former Mayor Rudy Giuliani be investigated for filing a false police report for claiming he was assaulted by a heckler who clapped him on the back Sunday at a Staten Island grocery store.

“Someone needs to remind former Mayor Giuliani that falsely reporting a crime is a crime," Adams told reporters, saying he'd watched security video that undercut Giuliani’s harrowing account.

Giuliani, 78, described being hit so hard it felt like being shot with a gun.

The heckler, who police said cried out “What’s up scumbag?” as he walked away from Giuliani, was arrested and spent more than 24 hours in jail before his arraignment Monday on misdemeanor charges including third-degree assault.

Adams said he thinks Staten Island District Attorney Michael McMahon “has the wrong person that he’s investigating.

“When you look at the video, the guy basically walked by and patted him on the back,” Adams said. “It was clear that he was not punched in the head. It was clear that it didn’t feel like a bullet. It was clear that he wasn’t about to fall to the ground.”

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:18 am Next up, in West Virginia vs EPA, the Supreme Court is likely to completely gut the federal government's ability to regulate. Another goal of the cunts ticked off.

Hugo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:45 pm It's depressing isn't it?

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:02 pm

Hugo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:45 pm It's depressing isn't it?

Civil War 2 is probably actually underway as we watch the loose collection of completely different jurisdictions called the United States drift ever further apart.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:12 pm Although what this is really about is ensuring corporate interests can't be regulated by Government agencies, this was just the Trojan Horse.

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:20 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:02 pm

Hugo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:45 pm It's depressing isn't it?

Civil War 2 is probably actually underway as we watch the loose collection of completely different jurisdictions called the United States drift ever further apart.

You’ve got to think that parts of the Northeast and the West Coast will eventually think fuck this, let’s take our money and leave the rednecks to fuck their cousins.

Congresswoman Liz Cheney, vice-chair of the congressional panel investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, has warned that former president Donald Trump represents “a domestic threat that we have never faced before”.

Cheney, the daughter of former vice-president Dick Cheney, told fellow Republicans that it was impossible to be loyal to both Trump and the American constitution.

The Wyoming congresswoman, ostracized by much of her party, was speaking on Wednesday at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, a day after the January 6 committee’s latest explosive hearing.

“At this moment, we are confronting a domestic threat that we have never faced before,” Cheney told the audience. “And that is a former president who is attempting to unravel the foundations of our constitutional republic. And he is aided by Republican leaders and elected officials who have made themselves willing hostages to this dangerous and irrational man.”

The 55-year-old noted that some in her party were embracing Trump and enabling his lies while others are choosing to look the other way because it is the easier path. “One need only look at the threats that are facing the witnesses who’ve come before the January 6 committee to understand the nature and the magnitude of that threat.

“But to argue that the threat posed by Donald Trump can be ignored is to cast aside the responsibility that every citizen – every one of us – bears to perpetuate the republic. We must not do that, and we cannot do that.”

The six hearings of the House of Representatives’ January 6 committee so far have pointed the finger at Trump for encouraging an armed mob of supporters to march on the US Capitol in an effort to slow and stop the counting of electoral votes. The president’s own top aides told him there was no evidence of widespread fraud in Joe Biden’s victory.

“It has become clear that the efforts Donald Trump oversaw and engaged in were even more chilling and more threatening than we could have imagined,” Cheney said. “As we have shown, Donald Trump attempted to overturn the presidential election. He attempted to stay in office and to prevent the transfer of presidential power.”

She added: “It’s undeniable. It’s also painful for Republicans to accept and I think we all have to recognize and understand what it means to say those words, and what it means that those things happened. But the reality that we face today as Republicans, as we think about the choice in front of us – we have to choose. Because Republicans cannot both be loyal to Donald Trump and loyal to the constitution. We must choose.”

Cheney praised Cassidy Hutchinson, a 25-year-old former aide to the former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, who on Tuesday told the House panel that Trump knew the mob was armed and asked for metal detectors be removed, as well as lunging at a Secret Service agent’s throat as he demanded to be driven to the Capitol.

“Her superiors – men many years older – a number of them are hiding behind executive privilege, anonymity and intimidation. But her bravery and patriotism yesterday were awesome to behold. Little girls all across this great nation are seeing what it really means to love this country and what it really means to be a patriot.”

Cheney’s remarks gained cheers and applause but she looks set to pay a heavy political price for her eviscerations of Trump. After being ousted from party leadership in the House, censured by the Republican National Committee and no longer recognised by her state party, she is facing a showdown in a 16 August Republican primary in Wyoming.

Harriet Hageman, her Trump-endorsed challenger, responded to Cheney’s speech with a statement that said: “Liz Cheney is the last one who should be giving lectures about the future of the Republican party when she is singlehandedly trying to burn it to the ground.

“Cheney is using Wyoming’s only House seat to further her own personal war on President Trump, while helping Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats achieve their own political goals at the same time. She’s doing more to help the future of the Democratic party than anything else.”

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:16 am

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:22 am Liz Cheney has come out guns blazing...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... epublicans

Congresswoman Liz Cheney, vice-chair of the congressional panel investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, has warned that former president Donald Trump represents “a domestic threat that we have never faced before”.

Cheney, the daughter of former vice-president Dick Cheney, told fellow Republicans that it was impossible to be loyal to both Trump and the American constitution.

The Wyoming congresswoman, ostracized by much of her party, was speaking on Wednesday at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, a day after the January 6 committee’s latest explosive hearing.

“At this moment, we are confronting a domestic threat that we have never faced before,” Cheney told the audience. “And that is a former president who is attempting to unravel the foundations of our constitutional republic. And he is aided by Republican leaders and elected officials who have made themselves willing hostages to this dangerous and irrational man.”

The 55-year-old noted that some in her party were embracing Trump and enabling his lies while others are choosing to look the other way because it is the easier path. “One need only look at the threats that are facing the witnesses who’ve come before the January 6 committee to understand the nature and the magnitude of that threat.

“But to argue that the threat posed by Donald Trump can be ignored is to cast aside the responsibility that every citizen – every one of us – bears to perpetuate the republic. We must not do that, and we cannot do that.”

The six hearings of the House of Representatives’ January 6 committee so far have pointed the finger at Trump for encouraging an armed mob of supporters to march on the US Capitol in an effort to slow and stop the counting of electoral votes. The president’s own top aides told him there was no evidence of widespread fraud in Joe Biden’s victory.

“It has become clear that the efforts Donald Trump oversaw and engaged in were even more chilling and more threatening than we could have imagined,” Cheney said. “As we have shown, Donald Trump attempted to overturn the presidential election. He attempted to stay in office and to prevent the transfer of presidential power.”

She added: “It’s undeniable. It’s also painful for Republicans to accept and I think we all have to recognize and understand what it means to say those words, and what it means that those things happened. But the reality that we face today as Republicans, as we think about the choice in front of us – we have to choose. Because Republicans cannot both be loyal to Donald Trump and loyal to the constitution. We must choose.”

Cheney praised Cassidy Hutchinson, a 25-year-old former aide to the former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, who on Tuesday told the House panel that Trump knew the mob was armed and asked for metal detectors be removed, as well as lunging at a Secret Service agent’s throat as he demanded to be driven to the Capitol.

“Her superiors – men many years older – a number of them are hiding behind executive privilege, anonymity and intimidation. But her bravery and patriotism yesterday were awesome to behold. Little girls all across this great nation are seeing what it really means to love this country and what it really means to be a patriot.”

Cheney’s remarks gained cheers and applause but she looks set to pay a heavy political price for her eviscerations of Trump. After being ousted from party leadership in the House, censured by the Republican National Committee and no longer recognised by her state party, she is facing a showdown in a 16 August Republican primary in Wyoming.

Harriet Hageman, her Trump-endorsed challenger, responded to Cheney’s speech with a statement that said: “Liz Cheney is the last one who should be giving lectures about the future of the Republican party when she is singlehandedly trying to burn it to the ground.

“Cheney is using Wyoming’s only House seat to further her own personal war on President Trump, while helping Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats achieve their own political goals at the same time. She’s doing more to help the future of the Democratic party than anything else.”

Wilson's Toffee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:56 am

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:22 am Liz Cheney has come out guns blazing...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... epublicans

Congresswoman Liz Cheney, vice-chair of the congressional panel investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, has warned that former president Donald Trump represents “a domestic threat that we have never faced before”.

Cheney, the daughter of former vice-president Dick Cheney, told fellow Republicans that it was impossible to be loyal to both Trump and the American constitution.

The Wyoming congresswoman, ostracized by much of her party, was speaking on Wednesday at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, a day after the January 6 committee’s latest explosive hearing.

“At this moment, we are confronting a domestic threat that we have never faced before,” Cheney told the audience. “And that is a former president who is attempting to unravel the foundations of our constitutional republic. And he is aided by Republican leaders and elected officials who have made themselves willing hostages to this dangerous and irrational man.”

The 55-year-old noted that some in her party were embracing Trump and enabling his lies while others are choosing to look the other way because it is the easier path. “One need only look at the threats that are facing the witnesses who’ve come before the January 6 committee to understand the nature and the magnitude of that threat.

“But to argue that the threat posed by Donald Trump can be ignored is to cast aside the responsibility that every citizen – every one of us – bears to perpetuate the republic. We must not do that, and we cannot do that.”

The six hearings of the House of Representatives’ January 6 committee so far have pointed the finger at Trump for encouraging an armed mob of supporters to march on the US Capitol in an effort to slow and stop the counting of electoral votes. The president’s own top aides told him there was no evidence of widespread fraud in Joe Biden’s victory.

“It has become clear that the efforts Donald Trump oversaw and engaged in were even more chilling and more threatening than we could have imagined,” Cheney said. “As we have shown, Donald Trump attempted to overturn the presidential election. He attempted to stay in office and to prevent the transfer of presidential power.”

She added: “It’s undeniable. It’s also painful for Republicans to accept and I think we all have to recognize and understand what it means to say those words, and what it means that those things happened. But the reality that we face today as Republicans, as we think about the choice in front of us – we have to choose. Because Republicans cannot both be loyal to Donald Trump and loyal to the constitution. We must choose.”

Cheney praised Cassidy Hutchinson, a 25-year-old former aide to the former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, who on Tuesday told the House panel that Trump knew the mob was armed and asked for metal detectors be removed, as well as lunging at a Secret Service agent’s throat as he demanded to be driven to the Capitol.

“Her superiors – men many years older – a number of them are hiding behind executive privilege, anonymity and intimidation. But her bravery and patriotism yesterday were awesome to behold. Little girls all across this great nation are seeing what it really means to love this country and what it really means to be a patriot.”

Cheney’s remarks gained cheers and applause but she looks set to pay a heavy political price for her eviscerations of Trump. After being ousted from party leadership in the House, censured by the Republican National Committee and no longer recognised by her state party, she is facing a showdown in a 16 August Republican primary in Wyoming.

Harriet Hageman, her Trump-endorsed challenger, responded to Cheney’s speech with a statement that said: “Liz Cheney is the last one who should be giving lectures about the future of the Republican party when she is singlehandedly trying to burn it to the ground.

“Cheney is using Wyoming’s only House seat to further her own personal war on President Trump, while helping Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats achieve their own political goals at the same time. She’s doing more to help the future of the Democratic party than anything else.”

A last, desperate struggle before her constituency kicks the flabby assed RINO under her flabby butt....and she knows it !

sturginho wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:20 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:16 am

Wilson's Toffee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:56 am
A last, desperate struggle before her constituency kicks the flabby assed RINO under her flabby butt....and she knows it !

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:09 am

Wilson's Toffee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:56 am

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:22 am Liz Cheney has come out guns blazing...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... epublicans

A last, desperate struggle before her constituency kicks the flabby assed RINO under her flabby butt....and she knows it !

Not so sure - in the televised debate a few days back she was clearly the only adult in the room, and the only one capable of stringing a sentence together. She might just hold on to the GOP nomination.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:35 am

Wilson's Toffee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:56 am
A last, desperate struggle before her constituency kicks the flabby assed RINO under her flabby butt....and she knows it !

If anyone's a RINO it's these delusional Trump cultists that favour theocracy over the constitution.

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:32 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:35 am

Wilson's Toffee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:56 am
A last, desperate struggle before her constituency kicks the flabby assed RINO under her flabby butt....and she knows it !

If anyone's a RINO it's these delusional Trump cultists that favour theocracy over the constitution.

One can only imagine the loathing for Trump if thinking Cheney is poor for having a flabby derriere. Amusing mind to consider a Cheney as a RINO, that's a lit like accusing Jesus of not being Christian enough (in so much as one can accuse mythical beings of anything)