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In an unlocked basement!!

With advice from the FBI, a padlock was fitted...

Everyone sing along ... ¶If you're guilty and you know it plead the fifth ... If you're guilty and you know it and you really wanna show it, if you're guilty and you know it plead the fifth¶.

He also repeatedly, over 6 hours, pled the 5th ... in a Civil case, where the rules are different.

In a criminal case, the jury can't infer something, & there's a presumption of innocence; but this is in a Civil case, & the jury can infer from his refusal to answer questions, that, if he did answer them, he'd be admitting to a criminal act, & that, & the evidence will lose him this case.

This trial won't put him in prison, but it damn sure can cost him a massive amount of money; & his accountant is going to trial this year, & although he's held out up to here, we'll see if he still feels like protecting the shitgibbon, when his money is gone, & feds are circling.

Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:40 am And in the latest "How did someone this stupid get elected President?" news, two months ago not only did Trump give FBI agents a tour of Mar-A-Lago, apparently against his attorney's advice, he even showed them where the document storage areas were.

Apparently he signed the law in 2018 that increased federal penalties for mishandling classified documents - apparently hoping he could stick Hilary with it

I'm going to guess this related.

A male with a firearm remains in a standoff with law enforcement in Clinton County after he tried to gain entry to the Cincinnati FBI field office Thursday morning, officials said.

https://eu.cincinnati.com/story/news/cr ... 400231007/

Congrats to the GOP on opening Pandora's box !

EnergiseR2 wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:35 pm GOP are now officially scum. They saw the party splitting so said yeah let's lean the way of internet Marjorie and Trump. Absolute pricks. The Internet overall is a shambles. I saw a comment on an Irish online paper The Journal earlier and the poster says didn't Garland defend Weinstein. It get plenty of likes. Garland was a prosecutor which makes the point less valid. You can just type any old bollox and get it to take off.

Sefton stole of pair of my jocks

I’m waltzing around in them now.

According to lawyers, the three charges listed in the search warrant, have sentences, of 3, 10, & 20 years, depending on the Classification of the document.

And of course that's for each count !, & the Feds are reported as having removed 12 boxes full of documents, & the Inventories, of the documents seized, have Secret, Top Secret, & Top Secret/SCI(which is only supposed to be viewed in a secured facility).

Even if he pleas guilty on one count of the lowest charge; the 3 year sentence also carries a disqualification for running for any Federal Office

.... or he can fight, & do the full 7,000 years he'll probably end up getting sentenced to.

This was not how I pictured the end game; but there is a lot of irony in the Librarians bringing down the scrote who proudly told us he never read a book.

fishfoodie wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:06 pm According to lawyers, the three charges listed in the search warrant, have sentences, of 3, 10, & 20 years, depending on the Classification of the document.

And of course that's for each count !, & the Feds are reported as having removed 12 boxes full of documents, & the Inventories, of the documents seized, have Secret, Top Secret, & Top Secret/SCI(which is only supposed to be viewed in a secured facility).

Even if he pleas guilty on one count of the lowest charge; the 3 year sentence also carries a disqualification for running for any Federal Office

.... or he can fight, & do the full 7,000 years he'll probably end up getting sentenced to.

This was not how I pictured the end game; but there is a lot of irony in the Librarians bringing down the scrote who proudly told us he never read a book.

It ain't over till it's over - we've been here before unfortunately. That Trump wasn't impeached and locked away for Jan 6 is a travesty, as gross a negligence of a governing body as any western democracy has seen. We'll just have to wait and see what technicality Trump and the lawyers can get away with. They'll likely delay till the GOP gets hold of the Senate mid-terms using this to fire up the 'base'.

Seems there’s discussion on Twitter, saying that the security footage at Mar Lago shows meetings between Trump and "others", and that is what triggered the issuance of a warrant. They are investigating forensically (fingerprints and DNA?) to see who actually handled the docs.

One of the shitgibbons lawyer is in absolutely fathoms of excrement; & for once it isn't Rudi !

The Lawyer signed a statement in early June, when the Archivist went down to Florida; stating that all classified materials had been returned.

Given the Feds just left with more than a dozen boxes of classified papers, I'd say that after a couple of years inside a Federal Pen, that lawyer won't be practicing any more law.

Now if they explain how they came to lie to a Federal Officer, they may just get a suspended sentence, & be disbarred.

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:37 pm One of the shitgibbons lawyer is in absolutely fathoms of excrement; & for once it isn't Rudi !

The Lawyer signed a statement in early June, when the Archivist went down to Florida; stating that all classified materials had been returned.

Given the Feds just left with more than a dozen boxes of classified papers, I'd say that after a couple of years inside a Federal Pen, that lawyer won't be practicing any more law.

Now if they explain how they came to lie to a Federal Officer, they may just get a suspended sentence, & be disbarred.

Link please? Not doubting it but would like to get some professional advice on just what that means in the bigger picture (Mr. Mike in the other place). The point being is that it turns out there was a subpoena for these documents which it looks like Trump didn't properly comply with then. Crimea a river to steal an instant boredy.

Flockwitt wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:18 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:37 pm One of the shitgibbons lawyer is in absolutely fathoms of excrement; & for once it isn't Rudi !

The Lawyer signed a statement in early June, when the Archivist went down to Florida; stating that all classified materials had been returned.

Given the Feds just left with more than a dozen boxes of classified papers, I'd say that after a couple of years inside a Federal Pen, that lawyer won't be practicing any more law.

Now if they explain how they came to lie to a Federal Officer, they may just get a suspended sentence, & be disbarred.

Link please? Not doubting it but would like to get some professional advice on just what that means in the bigger picture (Mr. Mike in the other place). The point being is that it turns out there was a subpoena for these documents which it looks like Trump didn't properly comply with then. Crimea a river to steal an instant boredy.

No worries, I should have included it

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/13/us/p ... l-fbi.html

Trump Lawyer Told Justice Dept. That Classified Material Had Been Returned

The lawyer signed a statement in June that all documents marked as classified and held in boxes in storage at Mar-a-Lago had been given back. The search at the former president’s home on Monday turned up more.

But, but, but, the FBI may have planted documents....

He really is a clueless fuckwit who fires off lie after lie to rile his dumb as fuck cultish followers..

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President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!

Surprise, Surprise; it's being reported that the shitgibbon is, yet again, having a really, really hard time getting any competent lawyers to join his defense team.

Before it was because he was a liability to ones reputation, & undermined his own defense, & usually stiffed you on the bill; but the latest twist is that he has now become a criminal liability to his lawyers, as a number of them ^^, are now facing criminal charges, & disbarment themselves, after he managed to entwine them in his criminal conspiracies.

It really has come to something when a crook sitting on 100m of money he conned GOP idiots out of, can't get competent representation, when Mexican drug lords can get a room full of Ivy League lawyers, for a fraction of that.

Why do I have a feeling the Shitgibbons luck isn't getting any better ?

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-cit ... 6fe1f336e6

NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump’s chief financial officer is expected to plead guilty to tax violations Thursday in a deal that would require him to testify about illicit business practices at the former president’s company, two people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.

Allen Weisselberg is charged with taking more than $1.7 million in off-the-books compensation from the Trump Organization over several years, including untaxed perks like rent, car payments and school tuition.

The plea deal would require Weisselberg to speak in court Thursday about the company’s role in the alleged compensation arrangement and possibly serve as a witness when the Trump Organization goes on trial in October on related charges, the people said.

The two people were not authorized to speak publicly about the case and did so on condition of anonymity.

Weisselberg, 75, is likely to receive a sentence of five months in jail, to be served at New York City’s notorious Rikers Island complex, and he could be required to pay about $2 million in restitution, including taxes, penalties and interest, the people said. If that punishment holds, Weisselberg would be eligible for release after about 100 days.

I think I'll go out & get a nice bottle of Champagne

When you got 'em by the balls, their hearts & minds will follow

And just so you are aware, the bit fishfoodie underlined above (unfortunately) does not affect Donald J in any way. It is merely the organisation and only fines (not jail time) can be assessed following that case. A shame.

Just seen a bit about how unsecure Mar-A Lago is, and how he left all sorts of papers and shit lying around. Even had some foreigner carry his "nuclear code bag" (who knew that was a real thing).

The guy, as we all know, is not fit to run a bath, let alone the USA. How 70M people vote for him is a mystery to me.

Snooze wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:39 pm And just so you are aware, the bit fishfoodie underlined above (unfortunately) does not affect Donald J in any way. It is merely the organisation and only fines (not jail time) can be assessed following that case. A shame.

Just seen a bit about how unsecure Mar-A Lago is, and how he left all sorts of papers and shit lying around. Even had some foreigner carry his "nuclear code bag" (who knew that was a real thing).

The guy, as we all know, is not fit to run a bath, let alone the USA. How 70M people vote for him is a mystery to me.

I don't think it's realistic to think they'll ever put him in a small room with bars, but I do think they can take every penny he has, & that will hurt him in ways prison never could; & they also can bar him from ever running for Office again, & that's a bonus

fishfoodie wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:42 pm

Snooze wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:39 pm And just so you are aware, the bit fishfoodie underlined above (unfortunately) does not affect Donald J in any way. It is merely the organisation and only fines (not jail time) can be assessed following that case. A shame.

Just seen a bit about how unsecure Mar-A Lago is, and how he left all sorts of papers and shit lying around. Even had some foreigner carry his "nuclear code bag" (who knew that was a real thing).

The guy, as we all know, is not fit to run a bath, let alone the USA. How 70M people vote for him is a mystery to me.

I don't think it's realistic to think they'll ever put him in a small room with bars, but I do think they can take every penny he has, & that will hurt him in ways prison never could; & they also can bar him from ever running for Office again, & that's a bonus

Agreed. Although a small room with bars is still my preference. I think he needs to be convicted of something before they can stop him running, but not sure of details on that front.

THE FBI PLANTED THOSE DOCUMENTS BUT ALSO TRUMP HAD DECLASSIFIED THEM ANYWAY EVEN THOUGH HE DIDNT KNOW THEY WERE THERE AND OBAMA HAS 30 MILLION CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS IN HIS LIVING ROOM



There is no way to justify the unannounced RAID of Mar-a-Lago, the home of the 45th President of the United States (who got more votes, by far, than any sitting President in the history of our Country!), by a very large number of gun toting FBI Agents, and the Department of “Justice” but, in the interest of TRANSPARENCY, I call for the immediate release of the completely Unredacted Affidavit pertaining to this horrible and shocking BREAK-IN. Also, the Judge on this case should recuse!


Hard to tell which of these statements came from Drump and which is a parody...

Snooze wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:55 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:42 pm

Snooze wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:39 pm And just so you are aware, the bit fishfoodie underlined above (unfortunately) does not affect Donald J in any way. It is merely the organisation and only fines (not jail time) can be assessed following that case. A shame.

Just seen a bit about how unsecure Mar-A Lago is, and how he left all sorts of papers and shit lying around. Even had some foreigner carry his "nuclear code bag" (who knew that was a real thing).

The guy, as we all know, is not fit to run a bath, let alone the USA. How 70M people vote for him is a mystery to me.

I don't think it's realistic to think they'll ever put him in a small room with bars, but I do think they can take every penny he has, & that will hurt him in ways prison never could; & they also can bar him from ever running for Office again, & that's a bonus

Agreed. Although a small room with bars is still my preference. I think he needs to be convicted of something before they can stop him running, but not sure of details on that front.

Its the accumulation of imminent treats.

There is the NY case of sustained fraud, & tax evasion, that is a slam dunk; & while it is against the corporate entity; it puts the whole, "Shitgibbon Inc", into the category of a criminal enterprise, & could first of all bankrupt the entire company, & second, trigger RICO statues, as once everything about a company is obviously criminal, then it's only logic to suppose that those running it are engaged in organized crime !

Next you have the case down in Georgia, that has lots of people in the GOP squirming, because it's as clear a case of election tampering as you'll ever see, & we have the tapes, & testimony by Rudi, & all the memos & emails, & this clearly has the potential to result in criminal convictions that would result in people being barred from running for office.

Then you have the current, attack of the librarians; this also should be a slam duck, & very, very specifically includes a charge that specifically can result in being barred from running for office.

Finally; & one that's understandably dropped a bit off the radar; there's a long running case that got stalled by the shit stain, being in office; where was accused of sexual assault, denied it & defamed the victim; & managed to delay being forced to submit a DNA sample, because the victim still has the dress, & the attackers DNA sample, & you'd be a brave man to bet against those two DNA samples matching; & the 45th president of the US of A being found to be a sexual deviant, & having his arse sued for tens of millions, for defamation ! ... & how with that go down with those christian fundamentalist arseholes who still support him ?

Attack of the librarians . .

And yes, I'd forgotten about the rape cases. And don't think I ever knew about the DNA.

Bring. It. On.

It's deliciously ironic that the guy who famously didn't believe in having written records, to the point where he tore up notes & tried to flush them down the crapper; is now facing going down that same crapper himself, with all the other shit; has lost his declared defense, because he never bothered to write down a proper statement to his bullshit, "Standing Order", to declassify any document he took to his shitty golf club !

If he'd actually made such an order; & he absolutely had such powers, however perversely, he would now be absolutely be untouchable .... but he didn't !

Like the man said, if it isn't written down, it didn't happen.

fishfoodie wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:48 pm It's deliciously ironic that the guy who famously didn't believe in having written records, to the point where he tore up notes & tried to flush them down the crapper; is now facing going down that same crapper himself, with all the other shit; has lost his declared defense, because he never bothered to write down a proper statement to his bullshit, "Standing Order", to declassify any document he took to his shitty golf club !

If he'd actually made such an order; & he absolutely had such powers, however perversely, he would now be absolutely be untouchable .... but he didn't !

Like the man said, if it isn't written down, it didn't happen.

Ah, he had the power to say it, but apparently that triggers a whole load of other groups getting involved - CIA, DOJ etc. So even if he said it and wrote it down, it wouldn't be true unless all these other parties signed off on it. And apparently, they wouldn't have. 11 of his former employees have found that argument laughable apparently.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/18/politics ... index.html

fishfoodie wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:34 pm he 45th president of the US of A being found to be a sexual deviant, & having his arse sued for tens of millions, for defamation ! ... & how with that go down with those christian fundamentalist arseholes who still support him ?

The GOP and their Supremes are likely coming around to the thinking that a raped woman should be forced to marry her rapist to remove the stain on her character and by extension her shaming of her family, or maybe they're already there on that. Either way opprobrium for the rapist seems unlikely

Drump on windturbines....


i've been saying this for a long time—most expensive form of energy in history, destroying our fields, destroying our environment. Get smart, America!

You are on record as saying the sound of wind turbines cause cancer you dumb, orange, shitgibbon..

That run in with the Scottish wind development has really burned his fragile little ego, hasn't it?

I do wonder whether he has ever experienced unconditional love from an adult in his entire life. Certainly he's never given it.

convoluted wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:59 pm...

Is it this the same Miller and his staff your quote referred to?
Miller and his chief of staff, Kash Patel ..."We went to the Capitol Police and the Secret Service and law enforcement agencies and Mayor Bowser days before January 6, and asked them, 'Do you want thousands of National Guardsmen and women for January 6?'" Patel told Just the News in an interview earlier this year.

"They all said no. Why did we do that (go to them)? (because) The law requires them to request it before we can deploy them. And the DOD IG found we did not delay, we actually prepared in a preemptive fashion, which is what we do at DOD."

Patel said Wednesday that the Capitol Police timeline verifies the account he gave to Congress, "that DOD support via the National Guard was refused by the House and Senate sergeant at arms, who report to Pelosi."

"Now we have it in their own writing, days before Jan. 6," he told Just the News. "And despite the FBI warning of potential for serious disturbance, no perimeter was established, no agents put on the street, and no fence put up."

And further from Patel,
PATEL: “Yeah, thanks. Let me be clear. Mark Milley has testified under oath as the secretary miller and myself. We have always been consistent that the president authorized it. If Mark Milley had said anything otherwise, the committee including Adam Schiff would have leaked that information because it would advance their narrative ...

I would suggest that anything Kash Patel says should be taken with a very large grain of bath salts.

Patel now is a media brand of his own. He has a website, selling hoodies, tank tops and other gear with his logo, “K$H,” with the proceeds going to charity, according to the website and Patel’s spokeswoman. And he’s written a children’s book, “The Plot Against the King,” in which the evil Hillary Queenton tries to spread lies against King Donald claiming that he’s working with the Russionians — until a knight called Kash exposes the plot.

Trump seems to be claiming that he didn’t take anything he shouldn’t at the same time as saying he was cooperating already and sending back stiff he shouldn’t have taken.

That country is fucking nuts

Slick wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:39 pm Trump seems to be claiming that he didn’t take anything he shouldn’t at the same time as saying he was cooperating already and sending back stiff he shouldn’t have taken.

That country is fucking nuts

Don't forget that anything it did take, was magically declassified by him taking it out of the WH, & we should all ignore the fact that none of it was actually stamped with the dirty big DECLASSIFIED ON DATE xx/xx/xx, as it would be if it had been declassified.

Another magnificent victory for the Orange turds Lawyers !

Three weeks after the Fed seized those boxes of documents from his trashy golf club, they finally got the Judge to appoint a special master, to, they hoped, block the FBI access to many of the documents.

One slight issue, is that the Feds immediately responded to the Judges order, to say that they've already gone thru all the documents they seized, & there's only a handful where attorney-client privilege may apply ..... they didn't make any mention of whether or not they also discover collusion between these lawyers & their client, which would immediately remove any privilege, but the Judge may make her own decision on that soon

Isn't the judge a Trump appointee from the Federalist Society? I can see her delivering for her patron.

Hal Jordan wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:08 pm Isn't the judge a Trump appointee from the Federalist Society? I can see her delivering for her patron.

She is, but I can't see her wanting to get overturned on appeal; so the Special Master, is little more than a sop.

And the clinically deranged orange shitgibbon says..

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Donald J. Trump

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So now it comes out, conclusively, that the FBI BURIED THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP STORY BEFORE THE ELECTION knowing that, if they didn’t, “Trump would have easily won the 2020 Presidential Election.” This is massive FRAUD & ELECTION INTERFERENCE at a level never seen before in our Country. REMEDY: Declare the rightful winner or, and this would be the minimal solution, declare the 2020 Election irreparably compromised and have a new Election, immediately

Well he might as well enjoy having his own personal SM outlet while it lasts, because it sounds like it'll be bankrupt in months; owing to him not paying his bills for months; & now because Lies Social is such an obvious fail, the buyers are doing their level best to back out of the deal they made to give $500m for a bucket of shit.

If he's really lucky, he won't have another failed business by the end of the year !

Yoo hoo...Convoluted....Where are you?....

Let's just leave this here....?

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Donald J. Trump

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Terrible the way the FBI, during the Raid of Mar-a-Lago, threw documents haphazardly all over the floor (perhaps pretending it was me that did it!), and then started taking pictures of them for the public to see. Thought they wanted them kept Secret? Lucky I Declassified

Seriously????

You wave your magic wand and miraculously declassify a document??
You twat.
The NDRA have already said you don't have any rights to possess them, the DOJ has said you don't have any rights to possess them..

Dumb fuck. The only thing it's doing, is trying to rile up it's dumb fuck redneck supporter base to rebel..

And he'll sit and watch the shit show from behind whatever again...