Part of my journey to atheism was just having a critical eye to what we were told was,"God's Word", & how the religious bureaucracy turn that into bullshit !
Moses got ten commandments that could be carved on two stone tables, & the Hebrew Religious Civil Service turned that into massive amount of crappy little rules around what you could eat & when etc, etc, etc
Then they sat around waiting for a Messiah, & when a small part of the community said; "Hey, this guy here is the Messiah !", he looked at the mess that the relatively simple set of rules had become, & he dumbed it down even further ....
"Love one & other, as I have loved you !"
Somehow even that simple fucking message can't be processed, & now so many Evangelical Christians; & they are focused on Hating, rather than Loving their fellow man.
The bottom line is that the more pious they claim to be, the bigger the fucking hypocrite they'll be !
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:27 am
by Niegs
Kind of insane, but I feel for the guy. What do you do when your neighbourhood has that much vandalism and crime?
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:44 am
by Raggs
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:05 am
Part of my journey to atheism was just having a critical eye to what we were told was,"God's Word", & how the religious bureaucracy turn that into bullshit !
Moses got ten commandments that could be carved on two stone tables, & the Hebrew Religious Civil Service turned that into massive amount of crappy little rules around what you could eat & when etc, etc, etc
Then they sat around waiting for a Messiah, & when a small part of the community said; "Hey, this guy here is the Messiah !", he looked at the mess that the relatively simple set of rules had become, & he dumbed it down even further ....
"Love one & other, as I have loved you !"
Somehow even that simple fucking message can't be processed, & now so many Evangelical Christians; & they are focused on Hating, rather than Loving their fellow man.
The bottom line is that the more pious they claim to be, the bigger the fucking hypocrite they'll be !
Actually Moses got a lot more instructions, which is most of Leviticus and maybe another book, can't remember. Jesus was fine with the death penalty and good with slavery too. He certainly wasn't some hippy type by our standards.
The other issue you've got is the suggestion that the Bible was wrong in places in the old testament. Or worse, god was wrong. The evangelicals have it pretty close I'd say. It's not a loving religion, the whole Jesus loves you is just propaganda to try and cover up the fact it isn't.
To try and bring it around, the Christian us right can rely heavily on religion to drive votes, which probably brings them quite a few votes from some immigrants too, who vote more on faith than what's actually good for them. And then seemingly miss the fact that the republicans don't seem to live by Christian law themselves, just want too impose it on others.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:51 am
by dabooldawg
Religion is like broccoli or your uncle Jim's penis. If it was forced on you as a child you're probably gonna hate it as an adult.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:05 am
by Hal Jordan
Niegs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:27 am
Kind of insane, but I feel for the guy. What do you do when your neighbourhood has that much vandalism and crime?
This is Philly, though, those fuckers riot when they win the Superbowl.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:22 pm
by Dinsdale Piranha
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:05 am
Part of my journey to atheism was just having a critical eye to what we were told was,"God's Word", & how the religious bureaucracy turn that into bullshit !
Moses got ten commandments that could be carved on two stone tables, & the Hebrew Religious Civil Service turned that into massive amount of crappy little rules around what you could eat & when etc, etc, etc
Then they sat around waiting for a Messiah, & when a small part of the community said; "Hey, this guy here is the Messiah !", he looked at the mess that the relatively simple set of rules had become, & he dumbed it down even further ....
"Love one & other, as I have loved you !"
Somehow even that simple fucking message can't be processed, & now so many Evangelical Christians; & they are focused on Hating, rather than Loving their fellow man.
The bottom line is that the more pious they claim to be, the bigger the fucking hypocrite they'll be !
The bible is a big book - well, collection of books. You can make it say whatever you want which is rather open to abuse.
To be fair, on the "crappy little rules" Most ofthe food hygeine ones were sensible for the time and region. A friend who is now a rabbi made this point. I then reminded her that she had a refrigerator and didn't that make them seem rather out of date.
My tolerance for religion drops daily while my tolerance for most other things goes the other way.
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:05 am
Part of my journey to atheism was just having a critical eye to what we were told was,"God's Word", & how the religious bureaucracy turn that into bullshit !
Moses got ten commandments that could be carved on two stone tables, & the Hebrew Religious Civil Service turned that into massive amount of crappy little rules around what you could eat & when etc, etc, etc
Then they sat around waiting for a Messiah, & when a small part of the community said; "Hey, this guy here is the Messiah !", he looked at the mess that the relatively simple set of rules had become, & he dumbed it down even further ....
"Love one & other, as I have loved you !"
Somehow even that simple fucking message can't be processed, & now so many Evangelical Christians; & they are focused on Hating, rather than Loving their fellow man.
The bottom line is that the more pious they claim to be, the bigger the fucking hypocrite they'll be !
Actually Moses got a lot more instructions, which is most of Leviticus and maybe another book, can't remember. Jesus was fine with the death penalty and good with slavery too. He certainly wasn't some hippy type by our standards.
The other issue you've got is the suggestion that the Bible was wrong in places in the old testament. Or worse, god was wrong. The evangelicals have it pretty close I'd say. It's not a loving religion, the whole Jesus loves you is just propaganda to try and cover up the fact it isn't.
To try and bring it around, the Christian us right can rely heavily on religion to drive votes, which probably brings them quite a few votes from some immigrants too, who vote more on faith than what's actually good for them. And then seemingly miss the fact that the republicans don't seem to live by Christian law themselves, just want too impose it on others.
They get a surprisingly high proportion of the Hispanic vote due to their abortion stance. A not insignificant number of black people in the US are also very 'Christian' in the homophobic and anti-abortion kind of way. Faith certainly provides the Republicans with the means to reach those who should really ignore them out of hand.
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:05 am
Part of my journey to atheism was just having a critical eye to what we were told was,"God's Word", & how the religious bureaucracy turn that into bullshit !
Moses got ten commandments that could be carved on two stone tables, & the Hebrew Religious Civil Service turned that into massive amount of crappy little rules around what you could eat & when etc, etc, etc
Then they sat around waiting for a Messiah, & when a small part of the community said; "Hey, this guy here is the Messiah !", he looked at the mess that the relatively simple set of rules had become, & he dumbed it down even further ....
"Love one & other, as I have loved you !"
Somehow even that simple fucking message can't be processed, & now so many Evangelical Christians; & they are focused on Hating, rather than Loving their fellow man.
The bottom line is that the more pious they claim to be, the bigger the fucking hypocrite they'll be !
The bible is a big book - well, collection of books. You can make it say whatever you want which is rather open to abuse.
To be fair, on the "crappy little rules" Most ofthe food hygeine ones were sensible for the time and region. A friend who is now a rabbi made this point. I then reminded her that she had a refrigerator and didn't that make them seem rather out of date.
My tolerance for religion drops daily while my tolerance for most other things goes the other way.
They don't really, and we know from archaeology that people in the region were eating plenty of pigs, so the prohibition there is cultural rather than anything to do with hygiene. Same for not cooking meat in milk, which the Romans do famously well without ill effect.
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:05 am
Part of my journey to atheism was just having a critical eye to what we were told was,"God's Word", & how the religious bureaucracy turn that into bullshit !
Moses got ten commandments that could be carved on two stone tables, & the Hebrew Religious Civil Service turned that into massive amount of crappy little rules around what you could eat & when etc, etc, etc
Then they sat around waiting for a Messiah, & when a small part of the community said; "Hey, this guy here is the Messiah !", he looked at the mess that the relatively simple set of rules had become, & he dumbed it down even further ....
"Love one & other, as I have loved you !"
Somehow even that simple fucking message can't be processed, & now so many Evangelical Christians; & they are focused on Hating, rather than Loving their fellow man.
The bottom line is that the more pious they claim to be, the bigger the fucking hypocrite they'll be !
The bible is a big book - well, collection of books. You can make it say whatever you want which is rather open to abuse.
To be fair, on the "crappy little rules" Most ofthe food hygeine ones were sensible for the time and region. A friend who is now a rabbi made this point. I then reminded her that she had a refrigerator and didn't that make them seem rather out of date.
My tolerance for religion drops daily while my tolerance for most other things goes the other way.
They don't really, and we know from archaeology that people in the region were eating plenty of pigs, so the prohibition there is cultural rather than anything to do with hygiene. Same for not cooking meat in milk, which the Romans do famously well without ill effect.
Pigs weren't even exclusively named. It prevent hyraxes, rabbits and camels from being eaten too, that could have helped them a lot. Seafood restrictions also prevented squid, catfish and eels.
The meat and dairy thing wasn't a dietary restriction as such, it was due to a nearby tribe/belief that if you cook a baby goat in it's mothers milk, and eat it, it's lucky or something. Then paranoia that someone may trick them, or they might make a mistake, pushed that to every meat (including tuna for some) and any type of dairy product being even served together, or within so much time.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:09 pm
by Brazil
Raggs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:55 pm
Pigs weren't even exclusively named. It prevent hyraxes, rabbits and camels from being eaten too, that could have helped them a lot. Seafood restrictions also prevented squid, catfish and eels.
The meat and dairy thing wasn't a dietary restriction as such, it was due to a nearby tribe/belief that if you cook a baby goat in it's mothers milk, and eat it, it's lucky or something. Then paranoia that someone may trick them, or they might make a mistake, pushed that to every meat (including tuna for some) and any type of dairy product being even served together, or within so much time.
Did they include beavers and otters in the aquatic restrictions? Christians used to eat beaver (snigger) on fridays on the grounds that it lived in the water, so clearly wasn't subject to the prohibition on meat.
My mates who keep a kosher household have separate fridges for meat and dairy. Oh how they laughed when somebody accidentally put sausages in the dairy one during a barbecue.
Raggs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:55 pm
Pigs weren't even exclusively named. It prevent hyraxes, rabbits and camels from being eaten too, that could have helped them a lot. Seafood restrictions also prevented squid, catfish and eels.
The meat and dairy thing wasn't a dietary restriction as such, it was due to a nearby tribe/belief that if you cook a baby goat in it's mothers milk, and eat it, it's lucky or something. Then paranoia that someone may trick them, or they might make a mistake, pushed that to every meat (including tuna for some) and any type of dairy product being even served together, or within so much time.
Did they include beavers and otters in the aquatic restrictions? Christians used to eat beaver (snigger) on fridays on the grounds that it lived in the water, so clearly wasn't subject to the prohibition on meat.
My mates who keep a kosher household have separate fridges for meat and dairy. Oh how they laughed when somebody accidentally put sausages in the dairy one during a barbecue.
Unless ultra strict (keeping separate fridges, or even kitchens), the laws were bent plenty. One I always found hilarious was that milk from the sabbath had to be thrown on the floor. It didn't say you couldn't then sell it. So dairy's break a bit of tile off the floor, clean it, and put it in the bottom of the milk tank. Then all the milk has technically been thrown on the floor, in accordance to the rules.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:31 pm
by fishfoodie
On Topic; the Special Prosecutor isn't letting the grass grow, & has asked the Court to hold the Shitgibbon in contempt, because he still hasn't provided a sworn statement, that all classified materials have been returned !
I'm guessing the NARA, & the DoJ know better that the Orange turd what documents haven't been returned, & they want to get another false Statement, so they can bury whoever signs it in prison for a long time .... or they get them to give evidence that the turd told them to sign it, & that makes their conspiracy, & obstruction of Justice case against their ultimate target !
The Department of Justice has asked a judge to hold Donald Trump’s team in contempt for failing to comply with a subpoena to return classified documents, according to a report.
Federal investigators launched a probe to see if the one-term president broke the law by taking government documents, some marked top secret, with him when he left the White House in January 2021.
And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats and large chu..
Maynard: Skip a bit, Brother.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:07 am
by TB63
Drump on Trevor Noah leaving SNL..
The guy had no talent, no charisma, and very little intelligence. Why would anyone have expected him to do well? What a stupid choice. If they put a pro-Trump person on, it would go through the roof, but they're too dumb to know that!
This from someone who wants to lead the US???? Just because Noah had his impersonation down to a t...
Fairly sure none of those were removed in the new testament.
The NT does take steps to say the persecution doesn't come so much from a place of righteous anger but rather is done out of love and care
So when I'm enslaved, killed and sent to burn in hellfire, it's because someone loves me, that'll make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside . In the end, the batshit insane intolerant right, are closer to what the bible calls for than the left for the most part.
Classic abuser behaviour, why do you make me hit you? etc
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:47 pm
by TB63
Oh this should be fun!..
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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4h
AMERICA NEEDS A SUPERHERO! I will be making a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT tomorrow. Thank you!
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:30 pm
by fishfoodie
TB63 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:47 pm
Oh this should be fun!..
Avatar
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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4h
AMERICA NEEDS A SUPERHERO! I will be making a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT tomorrow. Thank you!
Top tip scuzball; wearing your skidmarked kaks on the outside, at your age, won't make you a Superhero; but it probably will result in your parasite offspring getting you declared incompetent; & sticking you in a room with soft walls ..... so go for it !
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:39 pm
by inactionman
TB63 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:47 pm
Oh this should be fun!..
Avatar
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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4h
AMERICA NEEDS A SUPERHERO! I will be making a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT tomorrow. Thank you!
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:06 pm
by fishfoodie
EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:56 pm
I see his announcement was, drumroll, a tin of superhero cards. He can still teabag people with the best of them
Could have it's uses !
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:41 pm
by fishfoodie
EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:14 pm
He will hopefully fade away now. From his own point of view that would be best. If he's no threat they might ignore his more stupid shit. Fuck knows who else the American right will come up with though
No chance !
He's only declared for 2024 this early, because he's shitting himself over all the criminal cases he's facing, & he needs his candidacy to claim it's all a political.
In the meanwhile, he'll also attack anyone else who declares, & generally fling shit; & I think there will be a growing number in the GOP who would welcome a prosecution, so they can suddenly discover morals, & force him out of the Party
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:04 pm
by Guy Smiley
Forcing him out through the launching of any prosecution is a plausible short term fix for the GOP... the blind alley they've run themselves into isn't going to be so easy to back out of though.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:09 pm
by Hal Jordan
The threat isn't the grifting loudmouth. It's the reasonable seeming man in a smart suit that doesn't have the lunatic baggage. He's the one that walks through the door Trump opened, and delivers the horror show vision of America the GOP is touting
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:19 pm
by robmatic
Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:09 pm
The threat isn't the grifting loudmouth. It's the reasonable seeming man in a smart suit that doesn't have the lunatic baggage. He's the one that walks through the door Trump opened, and delivers the horror show vision of America the GOP is touting
There's now a young generation of right wing types who are basically looney tunes. That for me is the concerning thing.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:16 pm
by Blackmac
EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:56 pm
I see his announcement was, drumroll, a tin of superhero cards. He can still teabag people with the best of them
EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:56 pm
I see his announcement was, drumroll, a tin of superhero cards. He can still teabag people with the best of them
Sold out within two days. Unbelievable.
I'm sure like his awful fucking books, they were probably bought by his political slush fund, so he could loot it illegally
Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:09 pm
The threat isn't the grifting loudmouth. It's the reasonable seeming man in a smart suit that doesn't have the lunatic baggage. He's the one that walks through the door Trump opened, and delivers the horror show vision of America the GOP is touting
There's now a young generation of right wing types who are basically looney tunes. That for me is the concerning thing.
Plus all the nightmare conspiracy theorists. There was a large but unsurprising study that showed zero effectiveness for Ivermectin the other day - Twitter was absolutely awash with absolute psychos banging their conspiracy drums. Incredible numbers of total mentalists.
Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:09 pm
The threat isn't the grifting loudmouth. It's the reasonable seeming man in a smart suit that doesn't have the lunatic baggage. He's the one that walks through the door Trump opened, and delivers the horror show vision of America the GOP is touting
There's now a young generation of right wing types who are basically looney tunes. That for me is the concerning thing.
Plus all the nightmare conspiracy theorists. There was a large but unsurprising study that showed zero effectiveness for Ivermectin the other day - Twitter was absolutely awash with absolute psychos banging their conspiracy drums. Incredible numbers of total mentalists.
GOP voters died at a ratio of 2:1 versus DNC Voters thru Covid; have a think about that !
EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:56 pm
I see his announcement was, drumroll, a tin of superhero cards. He can still teabag people with the best of them
EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:56 pm
I see his announcement was, drumroll, a tin of superhero cards. He can still teabag people with the best of them
EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:56 pm
I see his announcement was, drumroll, a tin of superhero cards. He can still teabag people with the best of them
Sold out within two days. Unbelievable.
Not a surprise at all, to me.
Max of 10 per person @$100 each..$9900 per transaction..100 dollars below having to declare where it came from ....
Max of 10 per person @$100 each..$9900 per transaction..100 dollars below having to declare where it came from ....
Nope, not laundering at all....
if it is it's on such a pathetic small scale you'd almost be inclined to feel sorry for family Trump. there are probably 16 year old weed dealers needing to do more than this
Max of 10 per person @$100 each..$9900 per transaction..100 dollars below having to declare where it came from ....
Nope, not laundering at all....
if it is it's on such a pathetic small scale you'd almost be inclined to feel sorry for family Trump. there are probably 16 year old weed dealers needing to do more than this
If it is indeed laundering, it shows how desperate Trump must be for funds given that Trump Organisation's funds are not available to him now.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:25 am
by Blackmac
TB63 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 2:55 pm
You really can't make this shit up!...
I see that guy has proved that just about every image is just a cheap photoshop of existing images, mainly from Amazon and cheap clothing websites.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:37 pm
by inactionman
The silly bastard has been referred to the Justice Department by the Jan. 6 Committee on 4 counts, including insurrection.
Sadly:
The committee accused the former president of inciting insurrection and other federal crimes as it referred him to the Justice Department, which does not have to act on its recommendations.
To do nothing would not only be a gutless, gutless act it really expands the risk as to what someone does next knowing it's a consequence free arena. So really the only alternative the DoJ has is to bring a different number of charges.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:13 pm
by TB63
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:07 pm
by fishfoodie
The House "Ways & Means" Committee has 7 years worth of his tax returns, & now is planning a gift to prosecutors around the Nation, by having a vote tomorrow to make them public.
Merry Christmas Mother Fucker !!!
On the Jan 6th recommendations; I can see either Meadows, or Eastman, running to the Feds to make a deal. They're both up to their necks in criminal behavior, & smart enough to know that they've no protection, & the first rat, is the only one that doesn't see the inside of prison.
. In the end, the batshit insane intolerant right, are closer to what the bible calls for than the left for the most part.
