Official Paris Olympics 2024 thread
Like everything else, we invented it I think
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Makes a welcome change from the saffers no?
Wasn’t being entirely seriousGuy Smiley wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:57 amGoes some way to explaining how everyone else got so much better at it I suppose, but the ancient Greeks might have a word about the 'invention'.
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This is the Olympics, Slick. You don't just sashay up and go to Disneyland or try and hook up some cheap nostril cleaner at the Olympics.Slick wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:28 amWasn’t being entirely seriousGuy Smiley wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:57 amGoes some way to explaining how everyone else got so much better at it I suppose, but the ancient Greeks might have a word about the 'invention'.
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Watching the speed climbers - they're like lizards going up that wall. The American favourite lost the semi to the Chinese guy, but then breaks the world record in the bronze medal match - some way to make a statement.
It looks like it's only their momentum that keeps them on the wall - I suspect if they had to stop half way up they'd fall off!
It looks like it's only their momentum that keeps them on the wall - I suspect if they had to stop half way up they'd fall off!
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Jade Jones knocked out. Another British favourite failing to medal. Pretty inevitable that this is going to be a poor Olympics for GB. Since London we are usually fighting for 3rd place and average 26 golds but could well end up down about 8th
Tthink Team GB were targetting a total of 60ish
GB won 64 in Tokyo of which 22 were gold.
Certainly left some golds out there but reckon we won't be too far away.
Compare to Australia who have 6 fewer medals but 6 more golds.
Or South Korea and Japan who are both on the same number of golds, but have respectively 22 and 17 fewer medals.
France are in a similar situation with a lower gold to other medal ratio than the teams around them in the table.
There is a real 'changing of the guard' feel about Team GB just now with reliable medallists from previous games reaching the end of their careers, or already gone. The wider concern is that the pipelines are drying up and world class athletes are not coming through in some of the sports we consistently got a good medal haul in.
Elite sports are going to have fine margins. You win some, you lose some.weegie01 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:16 pmCompare to Australia who have 6 fewer medals but 6 more golds.
Or South Korea and Japan who are both on the same number of golds, but have respectively 22 and 17 fewer medals.
France are in a similar situation with a lower gold to other medal ratio than the teams around them in the table.
There is a real 'changing of the guard' feel about Team GB just now with reliable medallists from previous games reaching the end of their careers, or already gone. The wider concern is that the pipelines are drying up and world class athletes are not coming through in some of the sports we consistently got a good medal haul in.
There was a good post on the BBC page:
Katie Archibald injured 6 weeks ahead of the Olympics. She's one of our best.
Peaty, Proud and Richards were a combined 0.09s off of three golds.
Rutter was unlucky with a shoot off.
Emma Wilson and Beth Schriver victims of their sport having one off finals despite dominating the qualifying.
Kerr running a NR and beating the old Olympic record for silver.
Hudson Smith running the 5th fastest time ever recorded over 400m and getting a silver.
Potter not quite having the legs in the triathlon.
Richardson shafted in the boxing.
Not a woe is Team GB post but an indication that it wasn't far off being 5/6 golds better off and it being described in a different way.
In recent Olympics Team GB have been excellent, but as you say the old guard leave and new talent will fill in. It might take a cycle or two but we have been spoiled in the UK since 2012. Rowing seems to be doing fine and cycling seems to have decent talent on the way through too.
Whilst this is all true, there are usually swings and roundabouts. This time it seems all swings and no roundabouts.Big D wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:36 pmElite sports are going to have fine margins. You win some, you lose some.weegie01 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:16 pmCompare to Australia who have 6 fewer medals but 6 more golds.
Or South Korea and Japan who are both on the same number of golds, but have respectively 22 and 17 fewer medals.
France are in a similar situation with a lower gold to other medal ratio than the teams around them in the table.
There is a real 'changing of the guard' feel about Team GB just now with reliable medallists from previous games reaching the end of their careers, or already gone. The wider concern is that the pipelines are drying up and world class athletes are not coming through in some of the sports we consistently got a good medal haul in.
There was a good post on the BBC page:
Katie Archibald injured 6 weeks ahead of the Olympics. She's one of our best.
Peaty, Proud and Richards were a combined 0.09s off of three golds.
Rutter was unlucky with a shoot off.
Emma Wilson and Beth Schriver victims of their sport having one off finals despite dominating the qualifying.
Kerr running a NR and beating the old Olympic record for silver.
Hudson Smith running the 5th fastest time ever recorded over 400m and getting a silver.
Potter not quite having the legs in the triathlon.
Richardson shafted in the boxing.
Not a woe is Team GB post but an indication that it wasn't far off being 5/6 golds better off and it being described in a different way.
In recent Olympics Team GB have been excellent, but as you say the old guard leave and new talent will fill in. It might take a cycle or two but we have been spoiled in the UK since 2012. Rowing seems to be doing fine and cycling seems to have decent talent on the way through too.
Our athletes are still right up there. The fact we are toe to toe with France in their home games says a lot, but we have been a bit spoiled with past success and expectations are high.
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We have also lost people who contributed multiple golds. Hoy then the Kenny's especially and to an extent peak Peaty. They were all good for more than 1 gold each per games.weegie01 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:55 pmWhilst this is all true, there are usually swings and roundabouts. This time it seems all swings and no roundabouts.Big D wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:36 pmElite sports are going to have fine margins. You win some, you lose some.weegie01 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:16 pm
Compare to Australia who have 6 fewer medals but 6 more golds.
Or South Korea and Japan who are both on the same number of golds, but have respectively 22 and 17 fewer medals.
France are in a similar situation with a lower gold to other medal ratio than the teams around them in the table.
There is a real 'changing of the guard' feel about Team GB just now with reliable medallists from previous games reaching the end of their careers, or already gone. The wider concern is that the pipelines are drying up and world class athletes are not coming through in some of the sports we consistently got a good medal haul in.
There was a good post on the BBC page:
Katie Archibald injured 6 weeks ahead of the Olympics. She's one of our best.
Peaty, Proud and Richards were a combined 0.09s off of three golds.
Rutter was unlucky with a shoot off.
Emma Wilson and Beth Schriver victims of their sport having one off finals despite dominating the qualifying.
Kerr running a NR and beating the old Olympic record for silver.
Hudson Smith running the 5th fastest time ever recorded over 400m and getting a silver.
Potter not quite having the legs in the triathlon.
Richardson shafted in the boxing.
Not a woe is Team GB post but an indication that it wasn't far off being 5/6 golds better off and it being described in a different way.
In recent Olympics Team GB have been excellent, but as you say the old guard leave and new talent will fill in. It might take a cycle or two but we have been spoiled in the UK since 2012. Rowing seems to be doing fine and cycling seems to have decent talent on the way through too.
Our athletes are still right up there. The fact we are toe to toe with France in their home games says a lot, but we have been a bit spoiled with past success and expectations are high.
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France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
Two Brits have lost out in sailing events where the final is sudden death but prior rounds are a series of races.
UK gold in the kite final. Three wins are needed to win, the Brit won two and had one carried over from the semis. The French girl carried two wins from the semis and would have won one race in the final and got gold if she'd not fallen off, but gets second based on wins carried over from the semis.
I am not familar with sailing, but wtf?
UK gold in the kite final. Three wins are needed to win, the Brit won two and had one carried over from the semis. The French girl carried two wins from the semis and would have won one race in the final and got gold if she'd not fallen off, but gets second based on wins carried over from the semis.
I am not familar with sailing, but wtf?
Australia are doing well this year after a few fairly lean years for them (6th in Beijing, 8th in London, 10th in Rio and 6th in Tokyo). They are also a bit of an outlier in getting more golds than other medals.Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
Since Beijing, GB have been 4th, 3rd, 2nd and 4th in the medals table. We are still doing pretty well on overall medals (51 now), just a bit light on golds in comparison to our performances in the last 4 Olympics. We could still come in 4th again
Some of us are old enough to remember Atlanta in 1996 when GB were 36th in the medal table, got 15 medals in total and just 1 gold (thanks to Steve Redgrave)
Wut ?Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
they have won more medals than ever before.
Katie Archibald being injured was the difference between silver and gold. She would also be among the favourites, if not clear favourite for the omnium and in the Madison with Evans.
I feel so sorry for her, she's had an awful few years, and then at the Olympics in her prime where she would have shone, she gets a freak injury by tripping over in her back garden.
I feel so sorry for her, she's had an awful few years, and then at the Olympics in her prime where she would have shone, she gets a freak injury by tripping over in her back garden.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Bit compared to the UK, similar size and wealth, they're historically very poor.laurent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:56 pmWut ?Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
they have won more medals than ever before.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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I stand by what I wrote above, they are underperforming for being at home, never the French athletes had the type of support and help that they got from the gov. GB got 29 gold medals in 2012, France so far 13 G with Marchand*4,Teddy Riner*2 ( I put the team’s one as he had to fight twice to get it), the rest were 1 BMX, Surf, canoe, vtt, fencing.laurent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:56 pmWut ?Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
they have won more medals than ever before.
None, zero zip in the usual sports that the French use to get gold medals in like Equestrian, men fencing, judo*, swimming*, handball, volleyball , Sailing and it really doesn’t look good in track & field.
Not sure why you bring this in I did not mention GB.Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:16 pmBit compared to the UK, similar size and wealth, they're historically very poor.laurent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:56 pmWut ?Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
they have won more medals than ever before.
They got better medal count than previous record (Beijing 43 medals) last week; with a good bit more guaranteed in collective sports (basketball handball and Football) there are 53 today.
This is over 25% improvement on the previous record so far (counting the 3 minima silver to get over the hump).
GB and France can be considered similar countries in most ways so it's a reasonable comparison. Same as France and England are a reasonable comparison in football and England massively under perform. Other reasonable ones would be Germany, Japan etc. Germany have similarly been below expectations for a long time now.laurent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:31 pmNot sure why you bring this in I did not mention GB.
They got better medal count than previous record (Beijing 43 medals) last week; with a good bit more guaranteed in collective sports (basketball handball and Football) there are 53 today.
This is over 25% improvement on the previous record so far (counting the 3 minima silver to get over the hump).
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Nah Netherlands and NZ are better per capitaMarylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
Doubt anyone is beating St Lucia this year.Openside wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:38 pmNah Netherlands and NZ are better per capitaMarylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
Edit - I'm wrong, Dominica does.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Sorry I should have stated if you take 1 gold nations out.Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:41 pmDoubt anyone is beating St Lucia this year.Openside wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:38 pmNah Netherlands and NZ are better per capitaMarylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
Edit - I'm wrong, Dominica does.
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Seriously Why are you talking about GB ? I was responding to France under-performing at these games and they are not.Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:36 pmGB and France can be considered similar countries in most ways so it's a reasonable comparison. Same as France and England are a reasonable comparison in football and England massively under perform. Other reasonable ones would be Germany, Japan etc. Germany have similarly been below expectations for a long time now.laurent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:31 pmNot sure why you bring this in I did not mention GB.
They got better medal count than previous record (Beijing 43 medals) last week; with a good bit more guaranteed in collective sports (basketball handball and Football) there are 53 today.
This is over 25% improvement on the previous record so far (counting the 3 minima silver to get over the hump).
PS Forgot about Volley ball as another guaranteed medal.