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Big D wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:09 pm Based on that I think Price should start but I doubt he will.

Fagerson will miss out.

Think Watson might miss out too.

Surherland and Price should be stick ons for the test 23, others will depend on injuries (theirs and others).

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:11 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:09 pm Based on that I think Price should start but I doubt he will.

Fagerson will miss out.

Think Watson might miss out too.

Surherland and Price should be stick ons for the test 23, others will depend on injuries (theirs and others).

Why do you think Watson will miss out? Curry was decent but nothing more

Big D wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:26 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:11 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:09 pm Based on that I think Price should start but I doubt he will.

Fagerson will miss out.

Think Watson might miss out too.

Surherland and Price should be stick ons for the test 23, others will depend on injuries (theirs and others).

Why do you think Watson will miss out? Curry was decent but nothing more

Thought Curry carried and tackled well. Linked play when needed and fronted up pretty well.

Having that in the bank v the pack they will be playing a week on Saturday will be at the forefront on the selectors minds.

Tonight was a warm up game but I think good and bad performances will count for more than precious warm up games v lower level players.

I don't think the Lions can go wrong at 7 or back 3. Wish I could say the same elsewhere.

And 1 guest wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:56 pm Curry seems to give away a lot of pens. Mish doesn't.

Big D wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:13 pm

And 1 guest wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:56 pm Curry seems to give away a lot of pens. Mish doesn't.

Curry has conceded one on tour so far. Tbh the fact both 7s have given away one between them probably means they aren't playing close enough to the edge

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:11 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:09 pm Based on that I think Price should start but I doubt he will.

Fagerson will miss out.

Think Watson might miss out too.

Surherland and Price should be stick ons for the test 23, others will depend on injuries (theirs and others).

Why do you think Watson will miss out? Curry was decent but nothing more

C T wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:50 am Pretty impressed with the Jocks so far:

At very least in contention for the test spot, should be in the 23:
Sutherland
Watson
Price
Harris
IrnDu
Hogg (although we've not seen much of him on tour, we'll see how he goes on Sat)

Would be slightly surprised if they're in the 23 but by no means have they had shockers:
Fagerson
Russell

No one has played themselves out of a spot. I just hope this tour acts as a confidence boost, I think our team still don't quite believe in themselves.

KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:50 am Murray McCallum has signed for Glasgow. Another surprising one for Edinburgh with Nel aging and Berghan now at Glasgow. De Bruin is presumably first choice with Atalifo and Grahamslaw fighting for the bench. There must be someone else coming in you would think as 3 tight heads, 1 of whom is very green, isn’t enough.

KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:50 am Murray McCallum has signed for Glasgow. Another surprising one for Edinburgh with Nel aging and Berghan now at Glasgow. De Bruin is presumably first choice with Atalifo and Grahamslaw fighting for the bench. There must be someone else coming in you would think as 3 tight heads, 1 of whom is very green, isn’t enough.

robmatic wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:58 am

KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:50 am Murray McCallum has signed for Glasgow. Another surprising one for Edinburgh with Nel aging and Berghan now at Glasgow. De Bruin is presumably first choice with Atalifo and Grahamslaw fighting for the bench. There must be someone else coming in you would think as 3 tight heads, 1 of whom is very green, isn’t enough.

I think WP still has some mileage in him for at least this season. He's not as dynamic around the park as he used to be, but you can still rely on him to do some damage in the scrum.

KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:50 am Murray McCallum has signed for Glasgow. Another surprising one for Edinburgh with Nel aging and Berghan now at Glasgow. De Bruin is presumably first choice with Atalifo and Grahamslaw fighting for the bench. There must be someone else coming in you would think as 3 tight heads, 1 of whom is very green, isn’t enough.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:25 pm

KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:50 am Murray McCallum has signed for Glasgow. Another surprising one for Edinburgh with Nel aging and Berghan now at Glasgow. De Bruin is presumably first choice with Atalifo and Grahamslaw fighting for the bench. There must be someone else coming in you would think as 3 tight heads, 1 of whom is very green, isn’t enough.

Grahamslaw is a loosehead. Gamble is the young TH so you have Nel, De Bruin (who played LH for Leicester last season) Atalifo and Gamble. Loosehead Schoeman, Venter, Grahamslaw with maybe Gunn or Lamberton.

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:54 pm Soooo… First Test next week. Reckon we may be looking at decent Scottish representation.

Probably starting: DVDM, Price, Hogg

I reckon Duhan’s done enough to earn a start. Price has been the surprise package, but it seems generally agreed he has been the form 9 on tour. Hogg I think has always been inked in to start the first Test, although he hasn’t had that much game time. He might even end up captain.

Possibly starting: Sutherland, Harris, Watson

Sutherland and Harris have both shown up well, though it’s anyone’s guess whether they have done enough to get a starting berth. Suspect Sutherland may start on the bench. Harris could start, or equally not make the 23 at all. We all think Mish should be starting 7, and there’s every chance he will be, but Curry has played well too and it’s a toss-up between them.

No chance: Fagerson

He hasn’t done badly, he just hasn’t done as well as some of the other guys on the tour. His best chance was as a sub, but he won’t make the 23 now.

Injured: Russell

He must be raging. He’d have started today and instead he’s had to watch Smith steal his thunder. It’s possible he may get a chance in the later matches, but I really don’t want him to damage his Achilles further and face a really long spell out.

And 1 guest wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:53 pm

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:54 pm Soooo… First Test next week. Reckon we may be looking at decent Scottish representation.

Probably starting: DVDM, Price, Hogg

I reckon Duhan’s done enough to earn a start. Price has been the surprise package, but it seems generally agreed he has been the form 9 on tour. Hogg I think has always been inked in to start the first Test, although he hasn’t had that much game time. He might even end up captain.

Possibly starting: Sutherland, Harris, Watson

Sutherland and Harris have both shown up well, though it’s anyone’s guess whether they have done enough to get a starting berth. Suspect Sutherland may start on the bench. Harris could start, or equally not make the 23 at all. We all think Mish should be starting 7, and there’s every chance he will be, but Curry has played well too and it’s a toss-up between them.

No chance: Fagerson

He hasn’t done badly, he just hasn’t done as well as some of the other guys on the tour. His best chance was as a sub, but he won’t make the 23 now.

Injured: Russell

He must be raging. He’d have started today and instead he’s had to watch Smith steal his thunder. It’s possible he may get a chance in the later matches, but I really don’t want him to damage his Achilles further and face a really long spell out.

Aye, would agree with that. Mish would let nobody down but can't see him starting. Back 3 is a lottery but hope they find a way to get the ball to them

robmatic wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:05 am Get a look at Dawson's XV. Not one Scot.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/57875384

Begbie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:16 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:05 am Get a look at Dawson's XV. Not one Scot.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/57875384

Thats exactly the kind of shite you'd expect from that fud.

robmatic wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:05 am Get a look at Dawson's XV. Not one Scot.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/57875384

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:59 am Wales Online also managed to pick a side without a Scot in it. Williams at 15, on the grounds that Hogg has missed games due to isolation and that Exeter dropped him at the end of the season (what difference does that make?)

I’m fairly confident Gatland will start Hogg, but this is the decision I’m most hoping for to ram it up all of the pundits. I can accept Curry over Watson, even if I think Mish deserves it more, but most of all I want to see Hogg picked over Williams.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:44 pm One thing I'd bet my house on, the Lions selectors aren't going to give a monkey's what is written in the press back in the UK, they will select what they think is the team most fit to do the job.

There will be disappointed players and fans, it comes with the territory.

I personally had little argument against the number of Scots on previous tours, perhaps John Barclay can consider himself very unlucky, but there are few others.

The doesn't mean I've forgotten the decision to play Euan Murray as a dirt tracker, that came back to bite the Lions on the arse, big time, that was that Rowntree's doing.

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:07 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:44 pm One thing I'd bet my house on, the Lions selectors aren't going to give a monkey's what is written in the press back in the UK, they will select what they think is the team most fit to do the job.

There will be disappointed players and fans, it comes with the territory.

I personally had little argument against the number of Scots on previous tours, perhaps John Barclay can consider himself very unlucky, but there are few others.

The doesn't mean I've forgotten the decision to play Euan Murray as a dirt tracker, that came back to bite the Lions on the arse, big time, that was that Rowntree's doing.

I don’t think anyone was expecting a bumper crop of Lions on the last few tours - we’ve been poor, after all. However, I do think a lot of marginal decisions went against us over that time simply because playing for Scotland was a disadvantage. We’ve seen a variety of decidedly average players picked from the other 3 countries, whereas some of our standout players went their whole careers without even making a squad - not just Barclay, but Paterson and Kelly Brown, and that’s just off the top of my head. Even Jason White, who is near the top of my list of players I wish we could have back right now, only made one squad as an injury replacement, and got nowhere near the Test team.

We’ve had 20 years in which our players had to overcome the disadvantage of playing for Scotland to get picked, and they had to be head and shoulders above the competition to even be considered.

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:12 am Cockerill gone 'by mutual consent'.

Big D wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:30 am

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:07 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:44 pm One thing I'd bet my house on, the Lions selectors aren't going to give a monkey's what is written in the press back in the UK, they will select what they think is the team most fit to do the job.

There will be disappointed players and fans, it comes with the territory.

I personally had little argument against the number of Scots on previous tours, perhaps John Barclay can consider himself very unlucky, but there are few others.

The doesn't mean I've forgotten the decision to play Euan Murray as a dirt tracker, that came back to bite the Lions on the arse, big time, that was that Rowntree's doing.

I don’t think anyone was expecting a bumper crop of Lions on the last few tours - we’ve been poor, after all. However, I do think a lot of marginal decisions went against us over that time simply because playing for Scotland was a disadvantage. We’ve seen a variety of decidedly average players picked from the other 3 countries, whereas some of our standout players went their whole careers without even making a squad - not just Barclay, but Paterson and Kelly Brown, and that’s just off the top of my head. Even Jason White, who is near the top of my list of players I wish we could have back right now, only made one squad as an injury replacement, and got nowhere near the Test team.

We’ve had 20 years in which our players had to overcome the disadvantage of playing for Scotland to get picked, and they had to be head and shoulders above the competition to even be considered.

I still think that other teams have had players miss out close calls too but we feel it more because it is out 3rd and 4th players on tour rather than 8th or 9th.

Kelly Brown was never in contention for the Lions. He wasn't a first choice for us in 2009 and 2013 he was playing at 7 for us and he wasn't in the same discussion as Warburton or Tipuric as a 7.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:15 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:12 am Cockerill gone 'by mutual consent'.

I thought we'd have him for a couple more years. The way it's phrased someone has made him an offer.

Hope McRae gets the opportunity. Always liked him as a coach.