Rugby Championship Match Thread - Sat 2nd - SA v NZ / Arg v Aus

[OomStruisbaai]

Shit, this Hendrikse injury is going to be a massive setback.

Not sure how long Faf and Herschel are still going to be out, but if neither are going to be fit for the next game it means we only have Reinach and a new 9 that needs to get in the team, get his box-kicking game up to standard and learn the defensive pattern.

Who are the remaining options to bring in? Nohamba? He was at least involved earlier.

Nohamba probably next. Ruan Pienaar my pick. He kicks better then all of them.

As long as it isn't Reinach. Fucking appalling today.

Vok he is useless. Three chsrge down kicks in our own 22. 2 tries not passing. Slow service.

Pienaar playing good rugby in the CC. Played 10 today and his service is good. Also experienced.

If I had to pick a young one maybe Zak Burger from the Bulls.

[Blake]

Shit, this Hendrikse injury is going to be a massive setback.

Not sure how long Faf and Herschel are still going to be out, but if neither are going to be fit for the next game it means we only have Reinach and a new 9 that needs to get in the team, get his box-kicking game up to standard and learn the defensive pattern.

Who are the remaining options to bring in? Nohamba? He was at least involved earlier.

what is actually wrong with them both? thought faf only a muscle strain and what exactly is wrong with herschel? never heard anything about his injury.

H Jantjies had ‘n hip injury. It didn’t sound to serious when it was first announced, but the silence is making me suspicious that it might be more serious.

[OomStruisbaai]

Shit, this Hendrikse injury is going to be a massive setback.

Not sure how long Faf and Herschel are still going to be out, but if neither are going to be fit for the next game it means we only have Reinach and a new 9 that needs to get in the team, get his box-kicking game up to standard and learn the defensive pattern.

Who are the remaining options to bring in? Nohamba? He was at least involved earlier.

Hendrikse is rubbish. Doesn't have the temperament. He isn't as rubbish as Reinach.

Hendrikse is fine. Sad watching him get injured. It look bad. Good luck to him.

[Blake]

Argies are a weird bunch. Most of the world loves them and their attitude. Always up for a challenge. Fighting spirit and all that.

But they can sure be a negative dirty team. Lavanini is ‘n poes. He could have seriously injured Pollard with that late hit. I also think I spotted an Argie stomp on Kolisi’s arm in a ruck. Will be interesting to see if he is cited. Add to that all the penalties and cynical play. It really wasn’t a great advert for rugby in general but Argie rugby in particular.

[handyman]

Shit, this Hendrikse injury is going to be a massive setback.

Not sure how long Faf and Herschel are still going to be out, but if neither are going to be fit for the next game it means we only have Reinach and a new 9 that needs to get in the team, get his box-kicking game up to standard and learn the defensive pattern.

Who are the remaining options to bring in? Nohamba? He was at least involved earlier.

If you watched the build up, you would have seen faf saying he will be back within one or two weeks.

[Chilli]

What an average game.
We can't play the "running" game. We lacked aggression up front. Kolisi was not nearly what he has been. Wiese was pedestrian.
The backline looked clueless

I know that this is the kind of game that Sards has been calling for, but fuck me we should have put 30 points on them.

[sorCrer]

What an average game.
We can't play the "running" game. We lacked aggression up front. Kolisi was not nearly what he has been. Wiese was pedestrian.
The backline looked clueless

I know that this is the kind of game that Sards has been calling for, but fuck me we should have put 30 points on them.

Wiese is not a Bok 8. At all. When he left the field Kwagga high 5'd him and he had to reach to get to Kwagga's hand. FFS.

[boere wors]

What an average game.
We can't play the "running" game. We lacked aggression up front. Kolisi was not nearly what he has been. Wiese was pedestrian.
The backline looked clueless

I know that this is the kind of game that Sards has been calling for, but fuck me we should have put 30 points on them.

Wiese is not a Bok 8. At all. When he left the field Kwagga high 5'd him and he had to reach to get to Kwagga's hand. FFS.

Wiese is 1,90m, Kwagga 1,80m??
Nevertheless, I would love to see Dan du Preez get a start at 8. He made a couple of powerful carries today when he came on.

[sorCrer]

What an average game.
We can't play the "running" game. We lacked aggression up front. Kolisi was not nearly what he has been. Wiese was pedestrian.
The backline looked clueless

I know that this is the kind of game that Sards has been calling for, but fuck me we should have put 30 points on them.

Wiese is not a Bok 8. At all. When he left the field Kwagga high 5'd him and he had to reach to get to Kwagga's hand. FFS.

Wiese is 1,90m, Kwagga 1,80m??
Nevertheless, I would love to see Dan du Preez get a start at 8. He made a couple of powerful carries today when he came on.

I very much doubt Wiese is 1.9, I saw it today when he was next to Kwagga.



A head taller than Faf.

[boere wors]

Wiese is not a Bok 8. At all. When he left the field Kwagga high 5'd him and he had to reach to get to Kwagga's hand. FFS.

Wiese is 1,90m, Kwagga 1,80m??
Nevertheless, I would love to see Dan du Preez get a start at 8. He made a couple of powerful carries today when he came on.

I very much doubt Wiese is 1.9, I saw it today when he was next to Kwagga.



A head taller than Faf.

In the picture he looks smaller than 2m PSdT, one head taller than 1,70m Faf and taller than 1,89m Pollard. So 1,90m it is

[sorCrer]

Wiese is 1,90m, Kwagga 1,80m??
Nevertheless, I would love to see Dan du Preez get a start at 8. He made a couple of powerful carries today when he came on.

I very much doubt Wiese is 1.9, I saw it today when he was next to Kwagga.



A head taller than Faf.

In the picture he looks smaller than 2m PSdT, one head taller than 1,70m Faf and taller than 1,89m Pollard. So 1,90m it is

Malherbe is 1.9 and he is shorter then him. Regardless, he just doesn't look like a Bok 8.

[assfly]

I've come to accept that wins against Argentina are generally unsatisfying. Especially when they are as cynical as they were yesterday. Hard to believe those put away the All Blacks last year.

I think the criticism of Reinarch is a bit harsh. Yes he wasn't great yesterday, but didn't get much protection from his team when box kicking. He was outstanding last week, so give him a break.

Marx was outstanding, best hooker performance from us since restarting this year. Debwa and Bongi are going to have to step up their game.

Bench was definitely an issue. Nothing offered again from Willemse, but not exactly given much of a change either. Not sure what our long term plans with him are. More average rugby from NJvR, still struggling to see what he is there for.

Great game from Thomas du Toit, especailly after such little game time. I'm sure Chilli is singing his praises this morning

[sorCrer]

More average rugby from NJvR, still struggling to see what he is there for.

It was his debut?

[Sandstorm]

More average rugby from NJvR, still struggling to see what he is there for.

It was his debut?

Indeed.

No chance Reinach gets a pass from me! His box-kicking is TheGamePlan, but it’s the delay when he arrives at every ruck that gives me the shits. Hurry up son!

[sorCrer]

More average rugby from NJvR, still struggling to see what he is there for.

It was his debut?

Indeed.

No chance Reinach gets a pass from me! His box-kicking is TheGamePlan, but it’s the delay when he arrives at every ruck that gives me the shits. Hurry up son!

When he eventually does get there he first stops and has a long conversation with his backline and or anyone else in earshot before he even looks at where the ball is. I wanted to fucking scream. Telegraphs everything he is doing.

[OomStruisbaai]

It was his debut?

Indeed.

No chance Reinach gets a pass from me! His box-kicking is TheGamePlan, but it’s the delay when he arrives at every ruck that gives me the shits. Hurry up son!

When he eventually does get there he first stops and has a long conversation with his backline and or anyone else in earshot before he even looks at where the ball is. I wanted to fucking scream. Telegraphs everything he is doing.

Ditto. He nearly cost me another TV. Thought Jansenv R had a very good debut.

[FalseBayFC]

Love to see a strike runner coming in from a deeper position. Exploiting the angles. Fassi is brilliant at this. He has great vision and anticipation for such a young player. Kolbe should be doing this more often or even Am. We had such a stranglehold on possession we should have played more phases. The stab kick or cross kick comes too early. It's a patience thing.

Stronger teams will be watching closely and coming up with ideas to neutralise our game plan. The Argies played a spoiling game and maybe the ref should have stepped in earlier.

I have the feeling we could use a playmaker type loosie with lots of pace. I thought Kwagga would have injected this but he seems to be playing to plan.

We have such an experienced team now that should be able to convert possession and territory into tries a lot better. This is what Pollard needs to learn to become a truly exceptional player. He has all the tools and talent but lacks the vision to be a real GOAT level flyhalf.

[Sards]

Love to see a strike runner coming in from a deeper position. Exploiting the angles. Fassi is brilliant at this. He has great vision and anticipation for such a young player. Kolbe should be doing this more often or even Am.

Am had an outstanding match.....he is a GOAT......

Would love to see more of Fassi......this continued obsession with Willemse is getting boring now....I want to see Fassi chasing Mapimpi for tries scored.

[Chilli]

Indeed.

No chance Reinach gets a pass from me! His box-kicking is TheGamePlan, but it’s the delay when he arrives at every ruck that gives me the shits. Hurry up son!

When he eventually does get there he first stops and has a long conversation with his backline and or anyone else in earshot before he even looks at where the ball is. I wanted to fucking scream. Telegraphs everything he is doing.

Ditto. He nearly cost me another TV. Thought Jansenv R had a very good debut.

I agree, he looked like he belonged there.

[Chilli]

Love to see a strike runner coming in from a deeper position. Exploiting the angles. Fassi is brilliant at this. He has great vision and anticipation for such a young player. Kolbe should be doing this more often or even Am. We had such a stranglehold on possession we should have played more phases. The stab kick or cross kick comes too early. It's a patience thing.

Stronger teams will be watching closely and coming up with ideas to neutralise our game plan. The Argies played a spoiling game and maybe the ref should have stepped in earlier.

I have the feeling we could use a playmaker type loosie with lots of pace. I thought Kwagga would have injected this but he seems to be playing to plan.

We have such an experienced team now that should be able to convert possession and territory into tries a lot better. This is what Pollard needs to learn to become a truly exceptional player. He has all the tools and talent but lacks the vision to be a real GOAT level flyhalf.

We lacked aggression and were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to passive. We missed Eben. We were much too friendly and polite. We need a bit of Parow or Brackenfell to bring some mongrel too the boys from the good schools.

[Blake]

More average rugby from NJvR, still struggling to see what he is there for.

It was his debut?

Yeah, weird comment. I thought he had a rather decent showing. Did some old-school lock grunt work very well. The only criticism I have is that he and Bongi just didn't click at lineout time.
The lineout contingent of Bongi, NJvR, Mostert and Du Preez had zero chemistry or leadership. It was a compete clusterfuck. But in the loose, NJvR did a better job than Orie on the day.

[Chilli]

More average rugby from NJvR, still struggling to see what he is there for.

It was his debut?

Yeah, weird comment. I thought he had a rather decent showing. Did some old-school lock grunt work very well. The only criticism I have is that he and Bongi just didn't click at lineout time.
The lineout contingent of Bongi, NJvR, Mostert and Du Preez had zero chemistry or leadership. It was a compete clusterfuck. But in the loose, NJvR did a better job than Orie on the day.

Bongi's lineout work was a flashback to earlier on this year during the whatever competition they were playing in.

Trevor and then The Gina Ninja both had to go tell him where to throw. It is almost as if he didn't know the lineout calls.

[Blake]

Trevor and then The Gina Ninja both had to go tell him where to throw. It is almost as if he didn't know the lineout calls.

It's been the practice for some time now for the lineout captain to tell the front prop to tell the hooker the lineout call.
It's been like that since that very noisy match where Bismark couldn't hear Victor's calls and conceded a number of free kicks for taking too long to throw in.

The problem was the lack of an experienced lineout captain. Mostert usually packs down with either Eben or De Jager, but neither were on the field.
But yeah, Bongi needs to own those bad throws. They were all too high.

[Sards]

Trevor and then The Gina Ninja both had to go tell him where to throw. It is almost as if he didn't know the lineout calls.

It's been the practice for some time now for the lineout captain to tell the front prop to tell the hooker the lineout call.
It's been like that since that very noisy match where Bismark couldn't hear Victor's calls and conceded a number of free kicks for taking too long to throw in.

The problem was the lack of an experienced lineout captain. Mostert usually packs down with either Eben or De Jager, but neither were on the field.
But yeah, Bongi needs to own those bad throws. They were all too high.

The Sharks will get him right....If they could turn around Kolisi and Notsche Bongi will be a piece of cake.....

[handyman]

For me, it was an average match, but some of our players were poor, Bongi, Orie and Reinach.

I thought Janse van Rensburg was decent.

[handyman]

Nick Mallett challenges All Blacks to come tackle Boks in SA.

https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/rugb ... a-20210823

[OomStruisbaai]

Nick Mallett challenges All Blacks to come tackle Boks in SA.

https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/rugb ... a-20210823

Mallet kaan baie kak praat. How do we end up with all this on the match thread of All Blacks vs Wallabies?

I am glad the show go on.

[Ymx]

I’m just editing the thread title to reflect the next matches. Though it’s proving difficult to track. Sorry if confusing.

When’s your next confirmed match?

[handyman]

Nick Mallett challenges All Blacks to come tackle Boks in SA.

https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/rugb ... a-20210823

Mallet kaan baie kak praat. How do we end up with all this on the match thread of All Blacks vs Wallabies?

I am glad the show go on.

Keep up oom, this is the match fred for all the Rugby Championship matches

[Blake]

I’m just editing the thread title to reflect the next matches. Though it’s proving difficult to track. Sorry if confusing.

When’s your next confirmed match?

Appreciate the effort, but isn't it better to just have a match thread per match? It's a bit of a pain looking for team sheets etc if it's all jumbled together.

[OomStruisbaai]

I’m just editing the thread title to reflect the next matches. Though it’s proving difficult to track. Sorry if confusing.

When’s your next confirmed match?

Thanks Boet,

Dont think our fixtures will change with the EYTs very close.

South Africa v Australia
12 September
Australia v South Africa
18 September
New Zealand v South Africa
25 September
South Africa v New Zealand
2 October
Wales v South Africa
6 November
Scotland v South Africa
13 November
England v South Africa
20 November

[Sards]

So Australia will host the RC and everyone gets to play the ABs starting next Saturday...in Perth. ABs based in Queensland.

So glad the ABs grew some balls

[assfly]

At least it's sorted now.

Let the spite begin.

[Ymx]

Yeah, I think we are actually going to have a competition!

[Ymx]

I’m just editing the thread title to reflect the next matches. Though it’s proving difficult to track. Sorry if confusing.

When’s your next confirmed match?

Appreciate the effort, but isn't it better to just have a match thread per match? It's a bit of a pain looking for team sheets etc if it's all jumbled together.

Yeah, I know and to be quite honest with our numbers on this bored, some of the match threads have been quite sad. But I’m not precious only created this as a catch all thread as we had been doing. I added the upcoming fixtures in to thread title to attract some attention, help people recall when the match is on (incl neutrals).

Thought about team sheet location issues, but figured we can use scrolling and it’s no different to official country match threads where you do the same with squad announcements.

[Gumboot]

All just a storm in a teacup, then.

Can't imagine those angry Ockers Rennie and Marinos offering NZR an apology for their childish tantrums any time soon, though...

[Ymx]

All just a storm in a teacup, then.

Can't imagine those angry Ockers Rennie and Marinos offering NZR an apology for their childish tantrums any time soon, though...

I don’t know we have any Aussies here to get any reaction on that mate.

But I peeked at PR for a look and there’s a dedicated ugly shit fighting thread on it. Everyone doubling down as you’d expect.

[Grandpa]

All just a storm in a teacup, then.

Can't imagine those angry Ockers Rennie and Marinos offering NZR an apology for their childish tantrums any time soon, though...

I don’t know we have any Aussies here to get any reaction on that mate.

But I peeked at PR for a look and there’s a dedicated ugly shit fighting thread on it. Everyone doubling down as you’d expect.

SA and Argentina looking on bemused....

[OomStruisbaai]

2021 Rugby Championship Match Schedule *

Round 1
Sat 14 August: New Zealand 57 v Australia 22 [Eden Park, Auckland]
Sat 14 August: South Africa 32 v Argentina 12 [Mandela Stadium, Port Elizabeth]

Round 2
Sat 21 August: Argentina 29 v South Africa 10 [Mandela Stadium, Port Elizabeth]
TBC: Australia v New Zealand: Optus Stadium, Perth**

Round 3
Sunday 12 September: New Zealand v Argentina: CBUS Super Stadium, Gold Coast
Sunday 12 September: South Africa v Australia: CBUS Super Stadium, Gold Coast

Round 4
Saturday 18 September: Argentina v New Zealand: Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane
Saturday 18 September: Australia v South Africa: Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane

Round 5
Sat 25 September: New Zealand v South Africa: QLD Country Bank Stadium, Townsville
Sat 25 September: Australia v Argentina: QLD Country Bank Stadium, Townsville

Round 6
Sat 2 October: South Africa v New Zealand: CBUS Super Stadium, Gold Coast
Sat 2 October: Argentina v Australia: CBUS Super Stadium, Gold Coast

* All kick-off times and match order to be confirmed
** Also Third Bledisloe Cup match - Date to be confirmed

[OomStruisbaai]

All just a storm in a teacup, then.

Can't imagine those angry Ockers Rennie and Marinos offering NZR an apology for their childish tantrums any time soon, though...

I don’t know we have any Aussies here to get any reaction on that mate.

But I peeked at PR for a look and there’s a dedicated ugly shit fighting thread on it. Everyone doubling down as you’d expect.

SA and Argentina looking on bemused....

I am still upset the 100th test now in Australia. That should be in NZ or SA