NPR

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:23 pm Has Mullet declared war yet?

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:23 pm Has Mullet declared war yet?

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:07 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:23 pm Has Mullet declared war yet?

Believe he flounced.

robmatic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:18 am

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:40 am

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:55 pm

If that's the case; & Leinster were prepared to field a team; it's ridiculous to give Montpellier a walkover.

Maybe someone should have a word in the ear of the Irish Government, & make sure some French side can't travel; & thus has to give a walkover ?

Is that really how we want to decide qualification ?

Looks like it won’t be necessary as the French gov might prohibit the T14 teams to travel to the Uk/ IRE.
Clubs are asking for a special authorization.

That would be the European competitions goosed then.

Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:37 pm All matches involving French clubs postponed

HEINEKEN CHAMPIONS CUP:

Bath Rugby v Stade Rochelais
Sale Sharks v ASM Clermont Auvergne
Scarlets v Union Bordeaux-Bègles
Stade Toulousain v Wasps
Stade Francais Paris v Bristol Bears

EPCR CHALLENGE CUP:

Worcester Warriors v Biarritz Olympique
London Irish v CA Brive

All to be played at a later date

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:27 pm On this weekend

Ulster – Northampton (Champions Cup)
Harlequins – Cardiff (Champions Cup)
Glasgow – Exeter (Champions Cup)
Munster – Castres (Champions Cup) > samedi, 21h
Leicester – Connacht (Champions Cup)
Dragons – Lyon (Challenge Cup) > vendredi, 21h
Toulon – Zebre (Challenge Cup) > vendredi, 21h
Gloucester – Benetton (Challenge Cup)

Lost

Montpellier* – Leinster (Champions Cup)
Racing 92* - Ospreys (Champions Cup)
Pau* – Saracens (Challenge Cup)
*won

Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:30 pm

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:27 pm On this weekend

Ulster – Northampton (Champions Cup)
Harlequins – Cardiff (Champions Cup)
Glasgow – Exeter (Champions Cup)
Munster – Castres (Champions Cup) > samedi, 21h
Leicester – Connacht (Champions Cup)
Dragons – Lyon (Challenge Cup) > vendredi, 21h
Toulon – Zebre (Challenge Cup) > vendredi, 21h
Gloucester – Benetton (Challenge Cup)

Lost

Montpellier* – Leinster (Champions Cup)
Racing 92* - Ospreys (Champions Cup)
Pau* – Saracens (Challenge Cup)
*won

Lots of reports from reputable journos that all games involving French sides are off, EPCR announcement on the way.

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:34 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:30 pm

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:27 pm On this weekend

Ulster – Northampton (Champions Cup)
Harlequins – Cardiff (Champions Cup)
Glasgow – Exeter (Champions Cup)
Munster – Castres (Champions Cup) > samedi, 21h
Leicester – Connacht (Champions Cup)
Dragons – Lyon (Challenge Cup) > vendredi, 21h
Toulon – Zebre (Challenge Cup) > vendredi, 21h
Gloucester – Benetton (Challenge Cup)

Lost

Montpellier* – Leinster (Champions Cup)
Racing 92* - Ospreys (Champions Cup)
Pau* – Saracens (Challenge Cup)
*won

Lots of reports from reputable journos that all games involving French sides are off, EPCR announcement on the way.

Was announced earlier

https://www.premiershiprugby.com/news/e ... -2-matches

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:20 am How on earth have Montpellier been given a 28-0 win when Leinster were happy to travel and play the match?

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:21 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:20 am How on earth have Montpellier been given a 28-0 win when Leinster were happy to travel and play the match?

I think there's more than this than meets the eye.

The 23 they've named may not have tested positive but given the absentees a lot of others during the week did, given it can take 7 days to test positive there is a real chance some of the Leinster players named who have tested negative to date could be carrying it.

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:21 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:20 am How on earth have Montpellier been given a 28-0 win when Leinster were happy to travel and play the match?

I think there's more than this than meets the eye.

The 23 they've named may not have tested positive but given the absentees a lot of others during the week did, given it can take 7 days to test positive there is a real chance some of the Leinster players named who have tested negative to date could be carrying it.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:06 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:37 pm All matches involving French clubs postponed

HEINEKEN CHAMPIONS CUP:

Bath Rugby v Stade Rochelais
Sale Sharks v ASM Clermont Auvergne
Scarlets v Union Bordeaux-Bègles
Stade Toulousain v Wasps
Stade Francais Paris v Bristol Bears

EPCR CHALLENGE CUP:

Worcester Warriors v Biarritz Olympique
London Irish v CA Brive

All to be played at a later date

Does this mean that the Leinster game has no longer been awarded ?, & is now just postponed ?

The Clubs, the Unions, & the media need these games to happen; & just giving walkovers; when the games can still go ahead is idiotic; for all concerned.

Macron needs a kick up the hole; Omicron isn't getting stopped by travel bans.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:31 pm

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:21 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:20 am How on earth have Montpellier been given a 28-0 win when Leinster were happy to travel and play the match?

I think there's more than this than meets the eye.

The 23 they've named may not have tested positive but given the absentees a lot of others during the week did, given it can take 7 days to test positive there is a real chance some of the Leinster players named who have tested negative to date could be carrying it.

Yeah; but that's true of everyone else in the competition too !

Leinster have complied with the rules the EPCR set out to mitigate the risk; & they're still being fucked over.

Montpellier had a number of positives in camp too; but because this was a home game for them; they've gamed a win, they would never have gotten on the pitch.

Its a crock of shit !

If they can postpone other games this weekend; because teams can't travel; why couldn't they postpone this game; because a team wasn't allowed to travel ???

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:32 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:06 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:37 pm All matches involving French clubs postponed

HEINEKEN CHAMPIONS CUP:

Bath Rugby v Stade Rochelais
Sale Sharks v ASM Clermont Auvergne
Scarlets v Union Bordeaux-Bègles
Stade Toulousain v Wasps
Stade Francais Paris v Bristol Bears

EPCR CHALLENGE CUP:

Worcester Warriors v Biarritz Olympique
London Irish v CA Brive

All to be played at a later date

Does this mean that the Leinster game has no longer been awarded ?, & is now just postponed ?

The Clubs, the Unions, & the media need these games to happen; & just giving walkovers; when the games can still go ahead is idiotic; for all concerned.

Macron needs a kick up the hole; Omicron isn't getting stopped by travel bans.

Saw an interesting comment about Macron’s travel ban from a French scientist this morning:

Professor Philippe Froguel, a clinical scientist who works at Lille University Hospital and Imperial College London, said he suspected that the vast majority of Omicron cases in France had been missed. He said: “Nothing coherent or comprehensive has been done in France for Omicron and we don’t know how many cases we have. But for sure we should have thousands of undiagnosed cases.” France, he said, did not do enough sequencing — about 1 per cent of cases — and reported the results with a three-week delay."

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:46 pm
The travel ban is political, it's purely because of the issues between the UK and French governments over fishing/migrants etc.

France already has Omicron, they have more people in hospital than the UK, they've not banned travel from other countries with confirmed Omicron in the community.

BRAD SHIELDS’ FOUR-week ban after a red card against Munster in the Champions Cup last weekend has been overturned after an appeal.
The Wasps captain was sent off by referee Romain Poite for a high tackle on Dave Kilcoyne in the first half of Munster’s bonus-point win against Coventry last weekend.
Shields was then handed a four-week ban by an independent disciplinary panel.
However, Wasps and Shields appealed that suspension and it has now been struck off.
An independent appeal committee has ruled that Shields’ actions should only have resulted in a yellow card due to “on-field mitigation.”
The Wasps back row – who played in the second row last weekend due to injuries and Covid cases at the English club – is now free to play immediately.

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:45 pm Common sense.

BRAD SHIELDS’ FOUR-week ban after a red card against Munster in the Champions Cup last weekend has been overturned after an appeal.
The Wasps captain was sent off by referee Romain Poite for a high tackle on Dave Kilcoyne in the first half of Munster’s bonus-point win against Coventry last weekend.
Shields was then handed a four-week ban by an independent disciplinary panel.
However, Wasps and Shields appealed that suspension and it has now been struck off.
An independent appeal committee has ruled that Shields’ actions should only have resulted in a yellow card due to “on-field mitigation.”
The Wasps back row – who played in the second row last weekend due to injuries and Covid cases at the English club – is now free to play immediately.

https://www.the42.ie/brad-shields-muns ... Dec2021/

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:03 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:45 pm Common sense.

BRAD SHIELDS’ FOUR-week ban after a red card against Munster in the Champions Cup last weekend has been overturned after an appeal.
The Wasps captain was sent off by referee Romain Poite for a high tackle on Dave Kilcoyne in the first half of Munster’s bonus-point win against Coventry last weekend.
Shields was then handed a four-week ban by an independent disciplinary panel.
However, Wasps and Shields appealed that suspension and it has now been struck off.
An independent appeal committee has ruled that Shields’ actions should only have resulted in a yellow card due to “on-field mitigation.”
The Wasps back row – who played in the second row last weekend due to injuries and Covid cases at the English club – is now free to play immediately.

https://www.the42.ie/brad-shields-muns ... Dec2021/

Yeah I mentioned it in the now moot Wasps team announcement, right decision. Ridiculous that the disciplinary panel needed us to appeal the decisions before conceding it was a yellow offence, but at least Brad's now available for the next block of Prem games.

Niegs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:16 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:03 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:45 pm Common sense.

https://www.the42.ie/brad-shields-muns ... Dec2021/

Yeah I mentioned it in the now moot Wasps team announcement, right decision. Ridiculous that the disciplinary panel needed us to appeal the decisions before conceding it was a yellow offence, but at least Brad's now available for the next block of Prem games.

What would have been the mitigation? I thought he basically stood tall and put a shoulder in (or was run into at that height?).

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:02 pm

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:46 pm
The travel ban is political, it's purely because of the issues between the UK and French governments over fishing/migrants etc.

France already has Omicron, they have more people in hospital than the UK, they've not banned travel from other countries with confirmed Omicron in the community.

Absolutely, almost every decision made by most governments in regard of Covid has been political.
Also, you forgot the nuke Subs and Jeanne d’Arc (Joan of Arc)

Niegs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:16 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:03 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:45 pm Common sense.

https://www.the42.ie/brad-shields-muns ... Dec2021/

Yeah I mentioned it in the now moot Wasps team announcement, right decision. Ridiculous that the disciplinary panel needed us to appeal the decisions before conceding it was a yellow offence, but at least Brad's now available for the next block of Prem games.

What would have been the mitigation? I thought he basically stood tall and put a shoulder in (or was run into at that height?).

Edit... found the full match with the slo-mo replays, should start at that moment:


Funny how from behind Shields' back it looks like shot to the jaw. From behind Kilcoyne's back, doesn't look as bad. If they're saying the Munster player 'dipped', I don't think I'd go that far. I thought they were trying to punish and change this sort of thing - standing tall in the tackle, encouraging a bend at the waist.

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:46 pm

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:32 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:06 pm

Does this mean that the Leinster game has no longer been awarded ?, & is now just postponed ?

The Clubs, the Unions, & the media need these games to happen; & just giving walkovers; when the games can still go ahead is idiotic; for all concerned.

Macron needs a kick up the hole; Omicron isn't getting stopped by travel bans.

Saw an interesting comment about Macron’s travel ban from a French scientist this morning:

Professor Philippe Froguel, a clinical scientist who works at Lille University Hospital and Imperial College London, said he suspected that the vast majority of Omicron cases in France had been missed. He said: “Nothing coherent or comprehensive has been done in France for Omicron and we don’t know how many cases we have. But for sure we should have thousands of undiagnosed cases.” France, he said, did not do enough sequencing — about 1 per cent of cases — and reported the results with a three-week delay."

The travel ban is political, it's purely because of the issues between the UK and French governments over fishing/migrants etc.

France already has Omicron, they have more people in hospital than the UK, they've not banned travel from other countries with confirmed Omicron in the community.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:47 pm That shows the vagaries of rugby, how the fuck are Saints still in the game? They were third best in that half.