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Enzedder wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:48 am Good to see Mankading is now officially approved

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/mcc- ... se-1360456

The MCC World Cricket Committee has reaffirmed its stance on the matter of bowlers who run out non-strikers leaving the crease prior to delivery - colloquially referred to as a "Mankad" - which may help settle the cries for less severe punishment than the batter losing their wicket. In the same statement issued on Thursday following a meeting of the committee members in Dubai, the MCC also called for "calm across the global game following several high-profile incidents in a relatively short space of time."

The hot-button debate generated renewed interest last September when India allrounder Deepti Sharma ran out England's Charlie Dean for the game-clinching wicket in the 44th over of the third ODI at Lord's which India won by 16 runs. Dean was on 47 off 80 balls at the time trying to rally her side which was chasing a target of 170. A detailed analysis conducted by ESPNcricinfo subsequently showed that Dean had left her crease early at the non-striker's end on 72 occasions prior to being run out.

Deepti received support from captain Harmanpreet Kaur in the immediate aftermath of the incident during a post-match interview, saying, "Whatever we have done, I don't think it was any crime. It is part of the game and is an ICC rule, and I think we just need to back our player." The MCC World Cricket Committee made clear in its statement released on Thursday that the batter is at fault in such a scenario and that "there is no precedent to require a bowler to give a warning to a batter, confirming they are completely within their right to dismiss the batter on their first occasion they break the Law."

The World Cricket Committee pointedly stated that such dismissals would not happen if non-strikers are "complying with the Law and remaining within their ground until they have seen the ball being released from the bowler's hand." In other words, it is the batter's responsibility to avoid being dismissed like this, just as it is their responsibility to avoid being dismissed bowled or lbw or caught.

"The bowler is not the villain here," Committee member Kumar Sangakkara said. "Every batter has a choice; to stay in their ground, or risk being given out if they try to steal ground. If they choose the latter, they are the ones who are breaking the Law."

Running non-strikers out for backing up too far tends to foster the argument that it isn't so big a mistake that it should cost a wicket. There is also a fear that normalising it would have a negative effect at grassroots level. But MCC World Cricket Committee chairman Mike Gatting disagrees.

"We have seen suggestions that this method of dismissal will be attempted more and more at recreational level and there is the possibility of matches descending into chaos," Gatting said. "Whilst attempts may increase in the short term, we would expect batters to learn their responsibilities under the Laws very quickly and drive it out of prominence."

"Our stance on this is simple - batters must not steal ground if they do not wish to be given out in this manner. Nor should they be expecting to be given a warning if they do. If all non-strikers only left the popping crease once the ball had been released, there would never be the need for such a dismissal again.

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:17 pm

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:48 am Good to see Mankading is now officially approved

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/mcc- ... se-1360456

The MCC World Cricket Committee has reaffirmed its stance on the matter of bowlers who run out non-strikers leaving the crease prior to delivery - colloquially referred to as a "Mankad" - which may help settle the cries for less severe punishment than the batter losing their wicket. In the same statement issued on Thursday following a meeting of the committee members in Dubai, the MCC also called for "calm across the global game following several high-profile incidents in a relatively short space of time."

The hot-button debate generated renewed interest last September when India allrounder Deepti Sharma ran out England's Charlie Dean for the game-clinching wicket in the 44th over of the third ODI at Lord's which India won by 16 runs. Dean was on 47 off 80 balls at the time trying to rally her side which was chasing a target of 170. A detailed analysis conducted by ESPNcricinfo subsequently showed that Dean had left her crease early at the non-striker's end on 72 occasions prior to being run out.

Deepti received support from captain Harmanpreet Kaur in the immediate aftermath of the incident during a post-match interview, saying, "Whatever we have done, I don't think it was any crime. It is part of the game and is an ICC rule, and I think we just need to back our player." The MCC World Cricket Committee made clear in its statement released on Thursday that the batter is at fault in such a scenario and that "there is no precedent to require a bowler to give a warning to a batter, confirming they are completely within their right to dismiss the batter on their first occasion they break the Law."

The World Cricket Committee pointedly stated that such dismissals would not happen if non-strikers are "complying with the Law and remaining within their ground until they have seen the ball being released from the bowler's hand." In other words, it is the batter's responsibility to avoid being dismissed like this, just as it is their responsibility to avoid being dismissed bowled or lbw or caught.

"The bowler is not the villain here," Committee member Kumar Sangakkara said. "Every batter has a choice; to stay in their ground, or risk being given out if they try to steal ground. If they choose the latter, they are the ones who are breaking the Law."

Running non-strikers out for backing up too far tends to foster the argument that it isn't so big a mistake that it should cost a wicket. There is also a fear that normalising it would have a negative effect at grassroots level. But MCC World Cricket Committee chairman Mike Gatting disagrees.

"We have seen suggestions that this method of dismissal will be attempted more and more at recreational level and there is the possibility of matches descending into chaos," Gatting said. "Whilst attempts may increase in the short term, we would expect batters to learn their responsibilities under the Laws very quickly and drive it out of prominence."

"Our stance on this is simple - batters must not steal ground if they do not wish to be given out in this manner. Nor should they be expecting to be given a warning if they do. If all non-strikers only left the popping crease once the ball had been released, there would never be the need for such a dismissal again.

I approve of this.

It's piss easy to avoid being Mankaded. If you want to steal a few metres then be willing to pay the price occasionally.

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:58 pm 3 down with 199 to get.

Interesting. For a couple of overs and The New Kid will settle in.

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:58 pm 3 down with 199 to get.

Interesting. For a couple of overs and The New Kid will settle in.

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:21 pm

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:17 pm

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:48 am Good to see Mankading is now officially approved

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/mcc- ... se-1360456

I approve of this.

It's piss easy to avoid being Mankaded. If you want to steal a few metres then be willing to pay the price occasionally.

Exactly. I doubt anyone is going to be looking for a mankad every ball, but when someone is taking the piss (and 72 times in one game is taking the fucking piss), then you’ll do it.

Mahoney wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:13 am I have a horrible feeling I’m going to watch the next session, and I really shouldn’t.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:14 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:21 pm

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:17 pm
I approve of this.

It's piss easy to avoid being Mankaded. If you want to steal a few metres then be willing to pay the price occasionally.

Exactly. I doubt anyone is going to be looking for a mankad every ball, but when someone is taking the piss (and 72 times in one game is taking the fucking piss), then you’ll do it.

I’ve always felt the law has been pretty clear - if you are attempting to steal a run the bowler has a remedy, but a bowler cannot deceive a batsman by simulating bowling to effect a run out. The challenge has been a complete lack of common sense being applied by umpires which has amplified the cases where the batsman has been deceived out of their ground.

At club level, the onus is on batsman to stay in their ground, for bowlers to not take the piss and for umpires to make sure both are doing the above. I back up from the return crease, aiming to leave my ground at the point of release which is really what ought to be being coached

Big D wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:51 am

Mahoney wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:13 am I have a horrible feeling I’m going to watch the next session, and I really shouldn’t.

Ditto.

Mahoney wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:40 am Excellent disciplined bowling by NZ.

Kiwias wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:24 am Stop the short stuff and bowl straight and full, FFS

Kiwias wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:54 am Test cricket is best cricket -- FACT

Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:57 am

Kiwias wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:54 am Test cricket is best cricket -- FACT

Fuck yeah!