President Trump and US politics catchall

[Raggs]

Fucking idiots, why would an educated professor stoop to the level of those 2 cretins for a debate..

Can you imagine how intimidated he feels right now? His address is clearly known and available to these loons.

[Kiwias]

Just a question, Peter!

[Uncle fester]

Fucking idiots, why would an educated professor stoop to the level of those 2 cretins for a debate..

Can you imagine how intimidated he feels right now? His address is clearly known and available to these loons.

In more positive news, he's getting roasted in the replies, even by his own side.

[Guy Smiley]

I like how you can actually hear these gotcha merchants mouth breathing...


like it's their first day on land.

[Slick]

This is all a bit of a worry really

President Biden caused confusion when he finished a speech by saying “God save the Queen, man”.

Biden, 80, made the comment, which later appeared in the White House transcript of the speech in Connecticut, as he spoke about efforts to end gun violence. It was not clear whether the president was referring to Elizabeth II, who died in September. Biden flew to the UK for her funeral.

Olivia Dalton, the White House deputy press secretary, said the president had been “commenting to someone in the crowd”. It is not clear to whom he was speaking.

Last September, Biden asked during a speech, “Where’s Jackie?” as he searched for Jackie Walorski, an Indiana congresswoman who had died in a car accident the month before. In April, he appeared to forget about his recent visit to Ireland, despite having gushed about his roots in Dublin days earlier when meeting schoolchildren at the White House

[inactionman]

This is all a bit of a worry really

President Biden caused confusion when he finished a speech by saying “God save the Queen, man”.

Biden, 80, made the comment, which later appeared in the White House transcript of the speech in Connecticut, as he spoke about efforts to end gun violence. It was not clear whether the president was referring to Elizabeth II, who died in September. Biden flew to the UK for her funeral.

Olivia Dalton, the White House deputy press secretary, said the president had been “commenting to someone in the crowd”. It is not clear to whom he was speaking.

Last September, Biden asked during a speech, “Where’s Jackie?” as he searched for Jackie Walorski, an Indiana congresswoman who had died in a car accident the month before. In April, he appeared to forget about his recent visit to Ireland, despite having gushed about his roots in Dublin days earlier when meeting schoolchildren at the White House

I'd viewed this confusion and forgetfulness as the challenge of any politician - nothing is said from the heart, everything they say is essentially for some perceived gain so is usually a interpretation of truth, so I'm not surprised they can flounder. 'Am I supposed to be Irish this week'. 'Who am I supposed to name check'. 'What donor group do I need to flatter'. I'm not surprised mistakes are made.

In saying that, he's definitely getting more wobbly.

[Guy Smiley]

Oh yeah....


a worry alright.

[TB63]

These are worth a watch...

[Slick]

Is Fox turning on him?

[Sinkers]

Is that where he goes on to the old “I needed to keep the boxes with the top secret, highly classified documents because some of my old golf shirts were in there” defence?

[Slick]

Is that where he goes on to the old “I needed to keep the boxes with the top secret, highly classified documents because some of my old golf shirts were in there” defence?

Saying he didn't have documents, they were just newspaper cuttings, when they removed the documents from his place is a novel defence

[Sinkers]

I’ve just seen another clip of this where he boasts about giving clemency to Alice Johnson.
Only for it to be pointed out that under his current manifesto (if you can call it that), she’d be given the death sentence.

[Slick]

I’ve just seen another clip of this where he boasts about giving clemency to Alice Johnson.
Only for it to be pointed out that under his current manifesto (if you can call it that), she’d be given the death sentence.

Just seen that, possibly best one yet

[sockwithaticket]

Is Fox turning on him?

The GOP's donors/paymasters know that Trump is cooked. He's no longer any use to them for gaining political control and legislating favourably for the wealthy and their corporation, however, there's still a substantial portion of the Republican base that's still very invested in the Trump personality cult. So they need the trusted propaganda engines like Fox to start undermining him in the eyes of the loyal viewers (voters).

[Sinkers]

Ouch!!! That new leaked audio
- zero leaks up until now, then this happens four days after team trump get discovery access
- he’s totally toast!

[Kiwias]

Ouch!!! That new leaked audio
- zero leaks up until now, then this happens four days after team trump get discovery access
- he’s totally toast!

His staff are showing him the same degree of loyalty he has shown to, well, basically everyone throughout his life when that person is no longer of use to him.

[TB63]

If you want a listen....




He's toast...

[TB63]

And the chief cuckoo thinks that this is an admission by Joe of crimes. Screams for impeachment!



But....




How the fuck can they think ppl are that stupid to believe he'd say that FFS...

[TB63]

Fucking hell, he thinks that's an exoneration!!

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

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The Deranged Special Prosecutor, Jack Smith, working in conjunction with the DOJ & FBI, illegally leaked and “spun” a tape and transcript of me which is actually an exoneration, rather than what they would have you believe. This continuing Witch Hunt is another ELECTION INTERFERENCE Scam. They are cheaters and thugs!

[fishfoodie]

Fucking hell, he thinks that's an exoneration!!

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

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6h
The Deranged Special Prosecutor, Jack Smith, working in conjunction with the DOJ & FBI, illegally leaked and “spun” a tape and transcript of me which is actually an exoneration, rather than what they would have you believe. This continuing Witch Hunt is another ELECTION INTERFERENCE Scam. They are cheaters and thugs!

His grasp on reality was never great, but it's really gone down the shitter the last few years.

Never forget, this tape was made by his fluffers !!

I'm now convinced that the way the Feds got it, is that they showed Meadows the list of charges he faces in the Jan 6th case, & he "remembered", how he had this tape that might just be useful to them.

[Uncle fester]

Affirmative action is gone.
The right are over the moon. Now they'll be able to use loads of other non-academic criteria that are not racial to ensure that only the right people go to third level.

[Uncle fester]

They should have reframed it ages ago and made it about income. Would have basically captured the same numbers of Hispanics and blacks and minorities and neutered the race argument. America is addicted to race related bullshit though so no dice

Next step will be to reduce the number of women attending third level.

And if you want to get a picture of where this will go.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/st ... s-n1060361

[TB63]

[fishfoodie]

This is a different proposition to other culture wars stuff; affirmative action/positive discrimination cuts across the lives of a lot of people who aren't just flat out racists, looking for an excuse to bitch.

For example, I knew a guy in the SF PD, he worked his way up the ranks & was a good cop, but after losing out twice in the promotion panels to candidates who didn't come close to him, he just said fuck it & took early retirement. I don't think any reasonable person would consider it unnatural to be pissed off at a situation like this, unless they also think that women shouldn't be pissed off at their glass ceiling, or being denied equal pay, for equal work. Multiply that out by several million, & you have why this decision will get a different reception than that the Democrats may prefer.

I agree that a much better approach is to just focus on the inequality of opportunity, which is something America always pride itself on, & ditch the focus on race.

[Uncle fester]

So a makey uppy scenario is to be used as a benchmark for testing the law.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/ju ... dApp_Other

[Sinkers]

Has Rudy flipped!!??

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Has Rudy flipped!!??

We don't know, but there is he may now be persona non grata with many Trump supporters simply by dint of having been Queen for the Day, he probably read books to children too

[Flockwitt]

Has Rudy flipped!!??

There's a lot of speculation that he has.

[Sandstorm]

Has Rudy flipped!!??

There's a lot of speculation that he has.

He'll get disbarred.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

We don't know if he was seen as a witness or target, actually I don't even know if he went along himself or just his lawyer went, and we don't know to what degree he cited attorney client privilege nor if he did if he was told there was an exception. Whatever, the ice he's on is very, very thin

[fishfoodie]

Has Rudy flipped!!??

There's a lot of speculation that he has.

He'll get disbarred.

That ship sailed long ago !

While the orange traitor might avoid gaol, because of deference to his being a Former President, Rudy ain't going to get any such consideration, & he & Eastman, & the other wingnuts are up to their necks in illegal shit, & no one will think twice about sticking him in an 8 by 4 cell.

As always in a criminal conspiracy, he who jumps first gets the best deal, & I think Meadows jumped a long time ago, & dropped everyone else in the shit. Cassidy Hutchinsons testimony did for him.

[Uncle fester]

So not content with scrapping affirmative action based on race (but continuing to allow every other form of affirmative action), the US supreme court has now ruled that discrimination against LGBT people is perfectly okay if you're religious and it's based on a made up request by a gay couple who don't exist

The person named on the wedding request on question is a real person but they are straight and married to their wife for 15 years!

[Hal Jordan]

They've shitcanned student debt relief, too. Turtle Mitch played the SC Justice appointment process like a fiddle, the vile old fucker. 40 more years of decisions like this on the way.

[fishfoodie]

They've shitcanned student debt relief, too. Turtle Mitch played the SC Justice appointment process like a fiddle, the vile old fucker. 40 more years of decisions like this on the way.

Sure, he got the SCOTUS the scrotes wanted, but every decision they've gotten has fucked the GOP for a generation; Roe V Wade has awakened women across the US, regardless of political persuasion, that the GOP is in the grip of evangelical christians. This latest decision has shown a whole generation that the GOP will pass a tax bill that gives billionaires a trillion dollars, but if a President tries to do something for the middle class, the GOP will pull out all the stops to block it.

All they'll achieve is a short term benefit, & in the end they'll create a ground swell to reform the Court, to stop any one Party ever from being able to tilt the scales in such a way ever again.

[fishfoodie]

They should have reframed it ages ago and made it about income. Would have basically captured the same numbers of Hispanics and blacks and minorities and neutered the race argument. America is addicted to race related bullshit though so no dice

Next step will be to reduce the number of women attending third level.

And if you want to get a picture of where this will go.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/st ... s-n1060361

The Christian Right are clear that a women's priority is the home so why would they need college Fester

Never mind college, the taliban regime are what the evangelicals aspire for for women !

If they aren't pregnant they should be stoned to death.

[GogLais]

They've shitcanned student debt relief, too. Turtle Mitch played the SC Justice appointment process like a fiddle, the vile old fucker. 40 more years of decisions like this on the way.

Individual states can decide on fundamental things like income tax and the death penalty so I get the logic that abortion rights should be decided at state level. Even if I think the legislation executed in some states is dreadfully harsh.
But yeah, the student debt relief would seem to us to be something that a government should be free to act on. I haven’t delved into what the grounds for objecting to it were.

[sockwithaticket]

They've shitcanned student debt relief, too. Turtle Mitch played the SC Justice appointment process like a fiddle, the vile old fucker. 40 more years of decisions like this on the way.

Individual states can decide on fundamental things like income tax and the death penalty so I get the logic that abortion rights should be decided at state level. Even if I think the legislation executed in some states is dreadfully harsh.
But yeah, the student debt relief would seem to us to be something that a government should be free to act on. I haven’t delved into what the grounds for objecting to it were.

Donations and gifts from Republican donors who have ties to the buying, selling and reclamation of student debt...

I know you probably mean legal basis, but I'm not sure that really matters. The Republican Justices are well aware of what the party/donors want and will find whatever they need to make a pretense at legal justification.

[Uncle fester]

They've shitcanned student debt relief, too. Turtle Mitch played the SC Justice appointment process like a fiddle, the vile old fucker. 40 more years of decisions like this on the way.

Individual states can decide on fundamental things like income tax and the death penalty so I get the logic that abortion rights should be decided at state level. Even if I think the legislation executed in some states is dreadfully harsh.
But yeah, the student debt relief would seem to us to be something that a government should be free to act on. I haven’t delved into what the grounds for objecting to it were.

Except that's not the way the right are going to work. They'll wangle both state and federal laws towards their warped view of the world. It's all thin edge of the wedge and Gilead is the desired endgame.

[fishfoodie]

Rudy testified for ~8 hours, as part of his proffer agreement with Smith !

Now as I understand the way this works, he has to answer, & can't take the 5th, as he has immunity from anything he says during this testimony, so a refusal to answer is contempt, & a lie is always going to be perjury.

Of course he isn't the only person testifying under these conditions, so if say Eastman throws him under the bus in his testimony, & Rudy throws Eastman under the bus in his, & Smith has other evidence that doesn't come from a co-conspirator, they're both screwed.

There's going to be a lot of shitty lawyers doing porridge, & all they can do to limit whether or not they die there, is to hand over evidence on the traitor in chief.

[TB63]

Oh FFS! Really?..



Ahem..