Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:42 pm
Anyone run a geiger counter over him?
They were there so nah...Slick wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:54 pm The number of absolute cunts dying in this war has made me reconsider God
There's a NATO exercise in Romania but it's still wild to see a B-52 on station over the Black Sea. Russians must be losing their minds. This is what flying attack drones that hit a NATO member's territory buys you.
Nobody does anything!? They literally just drive round and carry on...
This is Luhansk. It's what a decade of Russian occupation produces.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:52 am Fatalism is hardwired into the Slavs generally but Russians are particularly deterministic
Fair!
A Ukrainian fighter, a Jew from the special forces brigade "Azov" with the call sign "Rabbi", is glad to meet his pilgrim friend during the celebration of Rosh Hashanah in Uman.
Photo: Wladyslaw Musienko
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On 17.09.1939, at ~4am, the USSR attacked Poland. Without declaring war, under the pretence of a “liberation campaign”. The similarities to the actions of the USSR’s successor state are obvious and eerie. Both then & now, they count ignorance & apathy of the world
In The Hague at the UN International Court of Justice hearings began in the case against the russian federation on charges of violation of the Convention on the Prohibition of Genocide.
Ukraine proves that the russian federation manipulated when it argued for a full-scale invasion by saying that it wanted to protect people in Donbas from genocide.
The court will hear arguments from the parties within two weeks.
Somebody leaked footages of the Russian submarine “Rostov on Don”, which got hit by Ukrainian missiles (likely Stormshadow).
The bow of the submarine received a direct hit. Additionally, there is an impact at the starboard side.
You can strike this ship from the list.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Jens Stoltenberg explains again what Putin proposed NATO before the invasion of Ukraine.
"So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders"
"The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn't sign that.
The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that.
So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders. He has got the exact opposite" Jens Stoltenberg said.
Now the vatniks are claiming that the NATO boss admitted that NATO provoked Putin’s bloody war.
NATO was right not to sign Putin’s trap.
But If NATO not went eastward, Putin would have went Westward. That’s proven in Ukraine.
By raising borrowing costs, the central bank is trying to fight price increases as Russia imports more and exports less, especially oil and natural gas, with defence spending going up and sanctions taking a toll. Importing more and exporting less means a smaller trade surplus, which typically weighs on a country’s currency.
"Export revenues from oil sales are our most important source of income. These incomes have already decreased by about 40-45 per cent, and it looks like this trend will continue," said Ruslan Grinberg, scientific director of the Institute of Economics of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
Unemployment - or the lack of it - is also a problem. Even before the war, Russia had an issue with its low birth rate which meant it had a smaller workforce to draw on. Since the invasion there's been a brain drain of talent to former Soviet states such as Georgia and many men have been conscripted into the military.
"The Russian economy is working at the limit, at the absolute limit of its capabilities. And this can be verified, first of all, by such an indicator as unemployment, which is at historically low levels. This means that there is literally no one to work in the country," explained Alexandra Prokopenko, from the Berlin-based Center for East European and International Studies.
"When there is no one to work, it means that production capacity is pushed beyond reasonable limits. So the Russian economy is trying its best to overcome the pressure it’s facing after Vladimir Putin decided to invade Ukraine."
And yet the Russian government recently improved its forecast for economic growth for 2023 to 2.8% and predicted that next year GDP will increase by 2.3%.
What are we watching here? And why have they got hi-vis on? Incredibly depressing scenes.
Ukrainian troops advancing at Avdiivka. The tape has been ever present since the start of the invasion, blue, yellow, and green, to identify friend from foe. The Russians use white and red. I'm very surprised you never noticed this before.Slick wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:59 amWhat are we watching here? And why have they got hi-vis on? Incredibly depressing scenes.
I've tended not to watch too many of the videos to be honest, not good at seeing the realityI'm very surprised you never noticed this before.
Same for me. While I've got some emotional investment in seeing Russia defeated and reduced, I'm not so keen on the war porn.Slick wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:19 pm Thank you
I've tended not to watch too many of the videos to be honest, not good at seeing the realityI'm very surprised you never noticed this before.
It's not war porn though. Any mainstream news media footage of Ukrainian infantry, or Russian for that matter, will show or have shown tape on uniforms and helmets over the last 17 months.Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:04 pmSame for me. While I've got some emotional investment in seeing Russia defeated and reduced, I'm not so keen on the war porn.Slick wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:19 pm Thank you
I've tended not to watch too many of the videos to be honest, not good at seeing the realityI'm very surprised you never noticed this before.
https://newsland-com.translate.goog/pos ... r_pto=wappKaraganov prepared a secret report for Putin. For migrants - everything, for Russians - deportation to Siberia and hard labor
If we talk about Ukraine, the team of authors considers it reasonable within the framework of the Northern Military District to annex the south-eastern regions of Ukraine, followed by “intensive ideological indoctrination similar to that of the GDR with the displacement of nationalist elements.” “Do not annex most of the Right Bank, but destroy the transport, energy, industrial infrastructure, turning the region (possibly dividing it with its neighbors) into an agricultural outskirts, preventing its use for military purposes (puppet government(s), military bases)," they suggest They. The main thing in resolving the “Ukrainian issue,” in their opinion, is to transform the region into “a friendly buffer on our borders with the West.” The authors believe that a program is needed to resettle 1–2 million people into existing cities in Siberia, as well as for the development of new spaces. They propose to send prisoners of war and convicts during the Northern War to the construction of transport routes, especially meridian ones, connecting Russia with Asia and with the Arctic Ocean.
It doesn't seem improbable - in Prisoners of Geography Marshall observes that the existence of Ukraine must give Putin nightmares because it's a direct avenue for an invading force to get to Moscow. The fact that nobody has had any intention of driving tanks to Moscow for some time seems to have been the missing element from Putin's strategic calculus, unfortunately.tabascoboy wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:26 am Whether this is reliable and verifiable is an open question but very revealing if this has informed recent Russian policy and is not just some think-tank report. Worth noting that "The report was prepared at the request of the Russian Presidential Administration". In essence to create a vast depopulated buffer state existing purely as an agrarian economy and enforcing effectively slave labour in Siberia from "resettlement".
https://newsland-com.translate.goog/pos ... r_pto=wappKaraganov prepared a secret report for Putin. For migrants - everything, for Russians - deportation to Siberia and hard labor
If we talk about Ukraine, the team of authors considers it reasonable within the framework of the Northern Military District to annex the south-eastern regions of Ukraine, followed by “intensive ideological indoctrination similar to that of the GDR with the displacement of nationalist elements.” “Do not annex most of the Right Bank, but destroy the transport, energy, industrial infrastructure, turning the region (possibly dividing it with its neighbors) into an agricultural outskirts, preventing its use for military purposes (puppet government(s), military bases)," they suggest They. The main thing in resolving the “Ukrainian issue,” in their opinion, is to transform the region into “a friendly buffer on our borders with the West.” The authors believe that a program is needed to resettle 1–2 million people into existing cities in Siberia, as well as for the development of new spaces. They propose to send prisoners of war and convicts during the Northern War to the construction of transport routes, especially meridian ones, connecting Russia with Asia and with the Arctic Ocean.
See also: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1703 ... 50945.html
I'm mostly "fück them" but ponder on what I'd do in such a situation. Can imagine that suicide rates must be through the roof.inactionman wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:05 am I suppose all these FPV and drone footage give a previously unseen view of conflict, but that is ultimately a video of someone dying.
Sort of obvious from the text that it wouldn't be pleasant, but could I ask that anything featuring death is spoilered?
I know they're the 'invaders' in the broadest sense, and god knows many of their comrades have performed some dreadful acts, but I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling a degree of sympathy for Russians who are dragged to front lines simply to die is an uncomprehending terror - it's still horrific to watch.
Eta: Top man TB63, ta mate
A surprising amount of coverage of this war seems to be some poor fucker sitting in a hole in the ground on his lonesome.
I did see one vid, taken from a drone that had just dropped a grenade on a soldier, he rolled on his back, unclipped and sprung a grenade off his belt and held it to his head..Sinkers wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:42 pmA surprising amount of coverage of this war seems to be some poor fucker sitting in a hole in the ground on his lonesome.
Yes, I know they’re Russians, Orcs, invaders etc but it’s f’ing depressing to watch and you have to give a thought what it must be like to be in their shoes.