Stop voting for fucking Tories

[Brazil]

Bloody awful, most of my best meetings have been down the pub, lots of problems solved over a pint or 2

It's notable that the quality of international regulation has deteriorated significantly since the move to making the major decisions fully in control of one's faculties. It's to do with the lizard brain or something, probably.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

And of course it wasn't just #10; it was multiple Ministries; & the likes of TPHQ, for their failed Mayoral candidate.

This is why a scrote like JRM is trying to re-write the legislation that was enforcible; & retrospectively turn these illegal parties; into innocent; "work gatherings"

Might work as long as there were no civil servants there, or there was no booze there

[Paddington Bear]

Where did you read anyone saying that was the case?

It seems pretty heavily implied in your post. Civil servants, MPs and cabinet ministers have been getting sloshed since time immemorial, often on the job.

I fully believe Brown, Thatcher and May would have ensured this didn't happen and that Boris has created an atmosphere of lawlessness though.

Culture has definately changed since when i first started in the CS, nowadays it is completely discouraged, if you want a drink after work you slip off down the pub for a quiet one, in fact my dept has completely banned any alcohol at lunchtime.

Tbh this seems like work generally, I think I've actually been drunk at a work event once.

[Tichtheid]

I don't know what it's like now, but if you went to the pub in Rose St in Edinburgh at lunchtimes a few years ago they (lots of pubs in Rose St) were heaving with office workers.

I didn't drink at lunchtimes during my work because chainsaw injuries can smart a bit.

[tc27]

Cut through - any weaseling out that it was not illegal as it was on the crown estate wont wash.

Is it cut through if your polling goes up?!

A big problem labour have in these polls is Tory voters aren't saying they'll labour. They're just saying they won't vote. Which they will at an election, for the Tories.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/u ... -you-think

Its not clear at all - much of the critical support in 2019 came from brand new conservatives voters and there is no reason they will 'come home' to the conservatives particularly without with Corbyn and brexit as motivators.

[C T]

Cut through - any weaseling out that it was not illegal as it was on the crown estate wont wash.

I wonder what the % is of people who will vote tory no matter what. How low to their floor has this current government pushed them?

[I like neeps]

Not going so well for Labour financially.

[Paddington Bear]

I think there's a misunderstanding of the "red wall". Anyone who goes to these places will see it - the high street may be crap but there's lots of developments of large homes for pretty affordable prices with big cars outside. It's cheap to live a Tory lifestyle up north, greatly facilitated by low interest rates.
These people won't vote Labour in a hurry and the constituencies are changing character as fast as places like Chesham and Amersham are becoming more Liberal.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Not going so well for Labour financially.

Nope. The last best hope might be if Barry agrees to redirect some small sliver of his oddly high funding levels to the wider party.

Just on the actual point there's only so much money, they could simply effect redundancies but oftentimes workers say they'd prefer the idea of keeping staffing levels and everyone takes a cut. I don't know what the situation here is, but if the charge is they're not being irresponsible with money it seems an odd slight.

[JM2K6]

Cut through - any weaseling out that it was not illegal as it was on the crown estate wont wash.

Is it cut through if your polling goes up?!

A big problem labour have in these polls is Tory voters aren't saying they'll labour. They're just saying they won't vote. Which they will at an election, for the Tories.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/u ... -you-think

Its not clear at all - much of the critical support in 2019 came from brand new conservatives voters and there is no reason they will 'come home' to the conservatives particularly without with Corbyn and brexit as motivators.

Very difficult to judge, I think culture war shit will have a huge part to play and my feeling is a lot of those new voters will stick with the Tories on that basis

[petej]

I think there's a misunderstanding of the "red wall". Anyone who goes to these places will see it - the high street may be crap but there's lots of developments of large homes for pretty affordable prices with big cars outside. It's cheap to live a Tory lifestyle up north, greatly facilitated by low interest rates.
These people won't vote Labour in a hurry and the constituencies are changing character as fast as places like Chesham and Amersham are becoming more Liberal.

The red wall seats are also demographically ageing as a lot of the young move away.

[Paddington Bear]

I think there's a misunderstanding of the "red wall". Anyone who goes to these places will see it - the high street may be crap but there's lots of developments of large homes for pretty affordable prices with big cars outside. It's cheap to live a Tory lifestyle up north, greatly facilitated by low interest rates.
These people won't vote Labour in a hurry and the constituencies are changing character as fast as places like Chesham and Amersham are becoming more Liberal.

The red wall seats are also demographically ageing as a lot of the young move away.

Yes, but a lot of those who stay find it comparatively easy to buy a house, have a decent car etc, all the traditional hallmarks of voting Tory. A mate of mine still can't get over showing off to his future father in law the 2 bed he'd bought in London thinking he'd be seriously impressed, only to have it pointed out that his son who'd left school at 16 had bought a 5 bed for the same price in Chorley.

[tc27]

Read the sensible thing for Labor to do is to go bankrupt -settle with the creditors and start over.

However this is completely impossible because it gives the Tories a very easy attack line - however I suspect if they get back into government the party will do this pronto.

[sturginho]

Cut through - any weaseling out that it was not illegal as it was on the crown estate wont wash.

Is it cut through if your polling goes up?!

A big problem labour have in these polls is Tory voters aren't saying they'll labour. They're just saying they won't vote. Which they will at an election, for the Tories.

Some people obviously thought his apology was sincere

[tc27]

Polling going up 1% is just sampling noise and not significant

Labour should do an SNP - promise a second EU referendum - raise money for it in a seperate fund and then just steal it (I mean 'weave it into the accounts').

[fishfoodie]

So now the Bumblecunt will have to make a more authentic, & proper grovelling apology, in PMQs, next week; because this time it'll be to the Monarch; & It'll be much harder to sustain the; "we have to wait for the report", line of bullshit.

[Hal Jordan]

No 10 has apologised for the parties before the funeral, and per Liz Truss, it's time to move on.

Why aren't you moving on?

[Paddington Bear]

I get a sense that having to apologise to the Queen is something that will hang over Boris forever, and the Tory party will need to move fast so it doesn't linger around them more generally.

[tabascoboy]

Flash forward:

Boris Johnson has thanked Dame Sue Gray for her thorough investigation, resulting in the sacking of two Civil Servants and aides and finding no evidence of criminality or requirement to censure any other No 10 staff.


Do you see what I did there?

[Ymx]

Over 30 votes for no confidence, needing 54 to trigger challenge

[PCPhil]

I think there's a misunderstanding of the "red wall". Anyone who goes to these places will see it - the high street may be crap but there's lots of developments of large homes for pretty affordable prices with big cars outside. It's cheap to live a Tory lifestyle up north, greatly facilitated by low interest rates.
These people won't vote Labour in a hurry and the constituencies are changing character as fast as places like Chesham and Amersham are becoming more Liberal.

I don’t get the myth that if you are doing alright you must be a tory (sub plot…Labour is for losers). Most professionals I mix with are not of that persuasion. Brexit for a lot of folk was a nice simple answer to all their disappointments and rage.

[Brazil]

Not going so well for Labour financially.

The thing she misses is that a significant portion of the debt is due to settling cases and paying legal fees that are a hangover from Jezbollah's tenure, and in particular that idiotic report that they produced absolving him, Murphy, Milne and every other trotgimp of any responsibility for the disaster of 2019. It's no coincidence that the influence of the ineptly litigious Unite Union at the time resulted in this outcome for the labour party. The sooner Starmer gets shut of the lot of the last residues of that regime the better.

[Paddington Bear]

I think there's a misunderstanding of the "red wall". Anyone who goes to these places will see it - the high street may be crap but there's lots of developments of large homes for pretty affordable prices with big cars outside. It's cheap to live a Tory lifestyle up north, greatly facilitated by low interest rates.
These people won't vote Labour in a hurry and the constituencies are changing character as fast as places like Chesham and Amersham are becoming more Liberal.

I don’t get the myth that if you are doing alright you must be a tory (sub plot…Labour is for losers). Most professionals I mix with are not of that persuasion. Brexit for a lot of folk was a nice simple answer to all their disappointments and rage.

Property ownership is the huge indicator of voting Tory. Brexit has slightly shaken that among Southern professionals, but still outside of London they barely vote Labour.

[I like neeps]

Not going so well for Labour financially.

The thing she misses is that a significant portion of the debt is due to settling cases and paying legal fees that are a hangover from Jezbollah's tenure, and in particular that idiotic report that they produced absolving him, Murphy, Milne and every other trotgimp of any responsibility for the disaster of 2019. It's no coincidence that the influence of the ineptly litigious Unite Union at the time resulted in this outcome for the labour party. The sooner Starmer gets shut of the lot of the last residues of that regime the better.

Sure, last year when they paid an out of court settlement and cut 80 jobs shortly after that payment.

This year it does seem to be the loss of members and trade unions that is causing bother. The lack of two party conferences at capacity probably isn't hugely helpful either.

[sockwithaticket]

I get a sense that having to apologise to the Queen is something that will hang over Boris forever, and the Tory party will need to move fast so it doesn't linger around them more generally.

Being convicted of lying to her didn't seem to faze anyone.

[fishfoodie]

The thing she misses is that a significant portion of the debt is due to settling cases and paying legal fees that are a hangover from Jezbollah's tenure, and in particular that idiotic report that they produced absolving him, Murphy, Milne and every other trotgimp of any responsibility for the disaster of 2019. It's no coincidence that the influence of the ineptly litigious Unite Union at the time resulted in this outcome for the labour party. The sooner Starmer gets shut of the lot of the last residues of that regime the better.

Catch-22

Starmer doesn't have the power in the Party to do this; & won't have it until he wins an Election; but winning an Election isn't possible with a divided Party, & the shitheads he'd love to kick out.

[I like neeps]

[sturginho]

[Margin__Walker]

*snigger

[SaintK]

M_W beat me by 30 seconds!! These parties were endemic in No10 obviously

the former head of the Government unit responsible for drawing covid-19 restrictions

[fishfoodie]

If all of these Party goers get fined; it should plug the budget gap, better than the NI Insurance hike !

[tabascoboy]

Torygraph going all out now then on throwing BoJO to the wolves

[Uncle fester]

His culture war article is excellent.

[fishfoodie]

What charming people....

Boris Johnson is drawing up a list of officials to offer resignations over partygate in a bid to salvage his premiership, The Independent has learned.

Dubbed “Operation Save Big Dog” by the prime minister himself, the blueprint includes a drive to work out which heads should roll following the publication of senior official Sue Gray’s findings, as well as highlighting the prime minister’s achievements, according to sources.

Dan Rosenfield, Boris Johnson’s chief of staff, and Martin Reynolds, his private secretary and author of the ‘BYOB’ email, have both been noted as possible departures.

While putting names to the plan is a matter of hot debate, a more broadly accepted idea is that at least one senior political appointee and a senior official must be seen to leave Downing Street over the affair, as both groups share blame, two Whitehall sources said.

A former Tory cabinet minister told The Independent that, although they backed Mr Johnson, they believed a “root and branch” overhaul of No 10 and parts of the Cabinet Office would prove essential to move on from partygate. It would be a “bare minimum to translate contrition into action”, they said.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 93433.html

[Raggs]

What's the betting that the day before Sue Gray releases the report, a ton of photos show her at the parties.

[tabascoboy]

What charming people....

Boris Johnson is drawing up a list of officials to offer resignations over partygate in a bid to salvage his premiership, The Independent has learned.

[dpedin]

Whilst I appreciate there is a concerted effort now to get rid of the Blonde Bumblecunt, and there is still more to come I understand, they aren't really having to dig very hard to find lots and lots of shit to throw at him. It is beyond words just how much of a shithole No10 and the Cabinet was with the BB presiding. I cannot believe that we now have a PM who has made up a 'I am isolating' covid story in order to go into hiding and who is now planning an 'Operation Save Big Dog' behind closed doors involving sacrificing individuals careers to save his skin. This has actually gone beyond any 'The Thick of It' script, reality has now exceeded satirical parody in terms of how ridiculous the plot line has become. Apologies to the Queen, the Head of the Covid Taskforce having lock down parties, wine coolers in the office, bottles of wine smuggled into No10 in suitcases ... what the fuck! I honestly don't know what to say anymore, it has become unbelievably unbelievable!

[Rinkals]

Whilst I appreciate there is a concerted effort now to get rid of the Blonde Bumblecunt, and there is still more to come I understand, they aren't really having to dig very hard to find lots and lots of shit to throw at him. It is beyond words just how much of a shithole No10 and the Cabinet was with the BB presiding. I cannot believe that we now have a PM who has made up a 'I am isolating' covid story in order to go into hiding and who is now planning an 'Operation Save Big Dog' behind closed doors involving sacrificing individuals careers to save his skin. This has actually gone beyond any 'The Thick of It' script, reality has now exceeded satirical parody in terms of how ridiculous the plot line has become. Apologies to the Queen, the Head of the Covid Taskforce having lock down parties, wine coolers in the office, bottles of wine smuggled into No10 in suitcases ... what the fuck! I honestly don't know what to say anymore, it has become unbelievably unbelievable!

Sixth form Shenanigans.

I can't say I expected anything else upon his election.

[petej]

The animated version is brilliant.

[SaintK]

What charming people....

Boris Johnson is drawing up a list of officials to offer resignations over partygate in a bid to salvage his premiership, The Independent has learned.

Dubbed “Operation Save Big Dog” by the prime minister himself, the blueprint includes a drive to work out which heads should roll following the publication of senior official Sue Gray’s findings, as well as highlighting the prime minister’s achievements, according to sources.

Dan Rosenfield, Boris Johnson’s chief of staff, and Martin Reynolds, his private secretary and author of the ‘BYOB’ email, have both been noted as possible departures.

While putting names to the plan is a matter of hot debate, a more broadly accepted idea is that at least one senior political appointee and a senior official must be seen to leave Downing Street over the affair, as both groups share blame, two Whitehall sources said.

A former Tory cabinet minister told The Independent that, although they backed Mr Johnson, they believed a “root and branch” overhaul of No 10 and parts of the Cabinet Office would prove essential to move on from partygate. It would be a “bare minimum to translate contrition into action”, they said.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 93433.html

Bet you none of the Princess's best friends who the Blonde Slug has taken on since she started shagging him won't be on the list!!
Not sure a couple of "senior" sacrificial lambs and the lifting of Plan B measures will quite do it?
A fish rots from the head