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Hope so. Wonder how much £££ it would take to get Roddy Grant back.
He signed a 2-year extension to his contract this season so I doubt that will happen.Begbie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:36 amHope so. Wonder how much £££ it would take to get Roddy Grant back.
Damn.
Likely BS but someone was telling me he's still living in Embra and commuting to Belfast
He's turned out for Edinburgh so he's maybe learned it there.
That's him, the one that looks like a kid in a men's game.Slick wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:59 pmThe blond guy with the hat? He looks a bit out of place really.
He could be found for most of the game screaming for the ball and not getting it.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:23 pm How did Venter get on?
I think these games will take a few rounds until the players are up to speed, it has been a long lay off for them, but they have to start delivering soon, there is a fair bit riding on the Super Six, not least for the fact that a sizeable proportion of the rugby community in Scotland want it to fail - those who think that way are the old guard, Will Carling's old farts, if you like, even though they may be young and Scottish, they are still Will Carling's old farts.
Slick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:48 amHe could be found for most of the game screaming for the ball and not getting it.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:23 pm How did Venter get on?
I think these games will take a few rounds until the players are up to speed, it has been a long lay off for them, but they have to start delivering soon, there is a fair bit riding on the Super Six, not least for the fact that a sizeable proportion of the rugby community in Scotland want it to fail - those who think that way are the old guard, Will Carling's old farts, if you like, even though they may be young and Scottish, they are still Will Carling's old farts.
You are right, it will take a few games to get warmed up so a bit of patience required. It’s purely anecdotal, but I do think attitudes to the Super6 have changed slightly and most are willing to give it a go and see the potential importance of it.
Have to say my constant thought last night was how the hell do we even compete at top level if this is our 2nd tier after only 2 fully pro clubs. Particularly when you think of England having a 13/14 team Premiership with a decent 2nd tier of similar numbers. It’s quite amazing.
Edit: also have the worry that with only 6 teams the pressure is huge on coaches not to be last, so conservative rugby will be the order of the day. Hope not
Agree slick it is quite incredible we can compete with such a weak domestic game. My concern is what happens when the Scottish grannies in NZ are a generation removed as immigration has slowed and we don't have that pathway. I guess rely more on the English SQs of which they'll always be a healthy supply.Slick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:48 amHe could be found for most of the game screaming for the ball and not getting it.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:23 pm How did Venter get on?
I think these games will take a few rounds until the players are up to speed, it has been a long lay off for them, but they have to start delivering soon, there is a fair bit riding on the Super Six, not least for the fact that a sizeable proportion of the rugby community in Scotland want it to fail - those who think that way are the old guard, Will Carling's old farts, if you like, even though they may be young and Scottish, they are still Will Carling's old farts.
You are right, it will take a few games to get warmed up so a bit of patience required. It’s purely anecdotal, but I do think attitudes to the Super6 have changed slightly and most are willing to give it a go and see the potential importance of it.
Have to say my constant thought last night was how the hell do we even compete at top level if this is our 2nd tier after only 2 fully pro clubs. Particularly when you think of England having a 13/14 team Premiership with a decent 2nd tier of similar numbers. It’s quite amazing.
Edit: also have the worry that with only 6 teams the pressure is huge on coaches not to be last, so conservative rugby will be the order of the day. Hope not
Also not sure the coaches will really even be judged on results. They're all in the Scotland coaching pathway so you'd think Mallinder will be more interested in how they stick to the playing blueprints than who comes highest in the table.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:11 amSlick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:48 amHe could be found for most of the game screaming for the ball and not getting it.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:23 pm How did Venter get on?
I think these games will take a few rounds until the players are up to speed, it has been a long lay off for them, but they have to start delivering soon, there is a fair bit riding on the Super Six, not least for the fact that a sizeable proportion of the rugby community in Scotland want it to fail - those who think that way are the old guard, Will Carling's old farts, if you like, even though they may be young and Scottish, they are still Will Carling's old farts.
You are right, it will take a few games to get warmed up so a bit of patience required. It’s purely anecdotal, but I do think attitudes to the Super6 have changed slightly and most are willing to give it a go and see the potential importance of it.
Have to say my constant thought last night was how the hell do we even compete at top level if this is our 2nd tier after only 2 fully pro clubs. Particularly when you think of England having a 13/14 team Premiership with a decent 2nd tier of similar numbers. It’s quite amazing.
Edit: also have the worry that with only 6 teams the pressure is huge on coaches not to be last, so conservative rugby will be the order of the day. Hope not
I was led to believe that even after a few months before lockdown the difference in S&C in the Super6 was a huge step up from the old set up, if it can more closely rival the pro game in intensity, pace and physicality it will have served its purpose in preparing players for the step up.
I think the SRU will have a bigger picture view than care about who finishes last, the long term plan is to grow the number of teams at this level.
My feeling is that Mike Blair’s appointment will see Embra playing an expansive style, more like Glasgow and Scotland and this will filter down, the game is going that way anyway.
I went to a couple of games in the first season and thought there was a significant step up in physicality from the premiership.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:11 amSlick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:48 amHe could be found for most of the game screaming for the ball and not getting it.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:23 pm How did Venter get on?
I think these games will take a few rounds until the players are up to speed, it has been a long lay off for them, but they have to start delivering soon, there is a fair bit riding on the Super Six, not least for the fact that a sizeable proportion of the rugby community in Scotland want it to fail - those who think that way are the old guard, Will Carling's old farts, if you like, even though they may be young and Scottish, they are still Will Carling's old farts.
You are right, it will take a few games to get warmed up so a bit of patience required. It’s purely anecdotal, but I do think attitudes to the Super6 have changed slightly and most are willing to give it a go and see the potential importance of it.
Have to say my constant thought last night was how the hell do we even compete at top level if this is our 2nd tier after only 2 fully pro clubs. Particularly when you think of England having a 13/14 team Premiership with a decent 2nd tier of similar numbers. It’s quite amazing.
Edit: also have the worry that with only 6 teams the pressure is huge on coaches not to be last, so conservative rugby will be the order of the day. Hope not
I was led to believe that even after a few months before lockdown the difference in S&C in the Super6 was a huge step up from the old set up, if it can more closely rival the pro game in intensity, pace and physicality it will have served its purpose in preparing players for the step up.
I think the SRU will have a bigger picture view than care about who finishes last, the long term plan is to grow the number of teams at this level.
My feeling is that Mike Blair’s appointment will see Embra playing an expansive style, more like Glasgow and Scotland and this will filter down, the game is going that way anyway.
I certainly hope that’s how it will work, but their will inevitably be pressure if one team is coming last all the timeI like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:01 amAlso not sure the coaches will really even be judged on results. They're all in the Scotland coaching pathway so you'd think Mallinder will be more interested in how they stick to the playing blueprints than who comes highest in the table.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:11 amSlick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:48 am
He could be found for most of the game screaming for the ball and not getting it.
You are right, it will take a few games to get warmed up so a bit of patience required. It’s purely anecdotal, but I do think attitudes to the Super6 have changed slightly and most are willing to give it a go and see the potential importance of it.
Have to say my constant thought last night was how the hell do we even compete at top level if this is our 2nd tier after only 2 fully pro clubs. Particularly when you think of England having a 13/14 team Premiership with a decent 2nd tier of similar numbers. It’s quite amazing.
Edit: also have the worry that with only 6 teams the pressure is huge on coaches not to be last, so conservative rugby will be the order of the day. Hope not
I was led to believe that even after a few months before lockdown the difference in S&C in the Super6 was a huge step up from the old set up, if it can more closely rival the pro game in intensity, pace and physicality it will have served its purpose in preparing players for the step up.
I think the SRU will have a bigger picture view than care about who finishes last, the long term plan is to grow the number of teams at this level.
My feeling is that Mike Blair’s appointment will see Embra playing an expansive style, more like Glasgow and Scotland and this will filter down, the game is going that way anyway.
The coaching is probably higher quality overall as well. I dunno what happened in the old setup but with all the games in Super6 being televised/recorded, there must be more scope for video analysis and approaching things like a pro team.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:11 amSlick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:48 amHe could be found for most of the game screaming for the ball and not getting it.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:23 pm How did Venter get on?
I think these games will take a few rounds until the players are up to speed, it has been a long lay off for them, but they have to start delivering soon, there is a fair bit riding on the Super Six, not least for the fact that a sizeable proportion of the rugby community in Scotland want it to fail - those who think that way are the old guard, Will Carling's old farts, if you like, even though they may be young and Scottish, they are still Will Carling's old farts.
You are right, it will take a few games to get warmed up so a bit of patience required. It’s purely anecdotal, but I do think attitudes to the Super6 have changed slightly and most are willing to give it a go and see the potential importance of it.
Have to say my constant thought last night was how the hell do we even compete at top level if this is our 2nd tier after only 2 fully pro clubs. Particularly when you think of England having a 13/14 team Premiership with a decent 2nd tier of similar numbers. It’s quite amazing.
Edit: also have the worry that with only 6 teams the pressure is huge on coaches not to be last, so conservative rugby will be the order of the day. Hope not
I was led to believe that even after a few months before lockdown the difference in S&C in the Super6 was a huge step up from the old set up, if it can more closely rival the pro game in intensity, pace and physicality it will have served its purpose in preparing players for the step up.
I think the SRU will have a bigger picture view than care about who finishes last, the long term plan is to grow the number of teams at this level.
My feeling is that Mike Blair’s appointment will see Embra playing an expansive style, more like Glasgow and Scotland and this will filter down, the game is going that way anyway.
I think we'll be okay as it's not professional so there's a limited pool of coaches available - only the guys at the very top of the SRU coaching pathway. So there's less pressure from outside.Slick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:49 amI certainly hope that’s how it will work, but their will inevitably be pressure if one team is coming last all the timeI like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:01 amAlso not sure the coaches will really even be judged on results. They're all in the Scotland coaching pathway so you'd think Mallinder will be more interested in how they stick to the playing blueprints than who comes highest in the table.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:11 am
I was led to believe that even after a few months before lockdown the difference in S&C in the Super6 was a huge step up from the old set up, if it can more closely rival the pro game in intensity, pace and physicality it will have served its purpose in preparing players for the step up.
I think the SRU will have a bigger picture view than care about who finishes last, the long term plan is to grow the number of teams at this level.
My feeling is that Mike Blair’s appointment will see Embra playing an expansive style, more like Glasgow and Scotland and this will filter down, the game is going that way anyway.
He lives in a different time zone - no rush, no panic but is effective and does what only he can do. Some of his wee off-loads and flat, fast passes were sublime. Unfortunately the finishing pack was made up of 7 Englishmen and couldn't secure enough clean ball for him to do his stuff in the last 20mins. Made more passes in first 5 mins when he came on than the 3 passes Biggar made in whole of last test. Price helped too in finding Finn with fast ball from breakdown to give him time and space.
How did he rate Curry and Williams? 9.5 each?
It was rubbishI like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:30 pm Personally I didn't enjoy The Lions. Empty stadiums were crap. Erasmus is a total weapon. Gatlandball is just horrendous. The arguements on national lines. The SA tactics are effective but so boring. Didn't really have much emotional buy in at all.
