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Wonder what his strategy is here - realistically everyone knows he lied to Parliament. Trying to work out his way through this, and whilst I wouldn't bet against him I can't see it

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:18 pm And now he is claiming no one told him the party in the garden at number 10 was against the rules, those very rules that his own government had given out to everyone that he had signed off himself

Definitely looked and sounded like a dead man walking in his interview with Beth Rigby at lunchtime. She nailed him with just about every question!!!

SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:58 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:18 pm And now he is claiming no one told him the party in the garden at number 10 was against the rules, those very rules that his own government had given out to everyone that he had signed off himself

Definitely looked and sounded like a dead man walking in his interview with Beth Rigby at lunchtime. She nailed him with just about every question!!!

There are surely enough Lawyers in the Cabinet, to gently let him know that ignorance, (especially when it's feigned), is no excuse for breaking the law.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:00 pm It suits the principle contenders to have Scummings be one who takes down the Bumblecunt.

They all know that the one who knocks him off; won't be elected by the Party; but they were all happy to solemnly confirm that if ... .. he lied to the House; that would be a resigning matter.

Yep, with Tories the knifeman never gets the job.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:26 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:00 pm It suits the principle contenders to have Scummings be one who takes down the Bumblecunt.

They all know that the one who knocks him off; won't be elected by the Party; but they were all happy to solemnly confirm that if ... .. he lied to the House; that would be a resigning matter.

Yep, with Tories the knifeman never gets the job.

The real danger is he calls a confidence vote on himself; & forces them to support him. They could be stuck with him them for another year, like a millstone of shit around their necks.

SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:58 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:18 pm And now he is claiming no one told him the party in the garden at number 10 was against the rules, those very rules that his own government had given out to everyone that he had signed off himself

Definitely looked and sounded like a dead man walking in his interview with Beth Rigby at lunchtime. She nailed him with just about every question!!!

Watching the replay now; & the evasions are appalling; & he must use the words; "with the Deepest Respect"; a half dozen times, when he wants to ignore the question; & we all know what it mean when a Politician uses those particular words.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:24 pm Wonder what his strategy is here - realistically everyone knows he lied to Parliament. Trying to work out his way through this, and whilst I wouldn't bet against him I can't see it

His strategy is 'I've always got away with it before, the rules don't apply to me. Why should this be different?'

he genuinely xcan't understand why he should be taken to task for this or suffer in any way, because he has this conditioned belief that he should be allowed to get away with it.

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:18 pm And now he is claiming no one told him the party in the garden at number 10 was against the rules, those very rules that his own government had given out to everyone that he had signed off himself

Pathetic. No one told him it was a party. Did it not cross his mind to ask the question himself?

Do you think they'll take the wallpaper with them?

Ghanaian foreign office responding to "operation red meat" but call it "operation dead meat". Have to assume this is the best political trolling ever.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:57 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:26 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:00 pm It suits the principle contenders to have Scummings be one who takes down the Bumblecunt.

They all know that the one who knocks him off; won't be elected by the Party; but they were all happy to solemnly confirm that if ... .. he lied to the House; that would be a resigning matter.

Yep, with Tories the knifeman never gets the job.

The real danger is he calls a confidence vote on himself; & forces them to support him. They could be stuck with him them for another year, like a millstone of shit around their necks.

Not a bad move for him. Very trumpy because they live and die with him at that point, assuming he wins the confidence vote.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:37 pm Do you think they'll take the wallpaper with them?

You've got to assume a mate would give him a job straight away so they shouldn't need to take the wallpaper.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:59 pm
Ghanaian foreign office responding to "operation red meat" but call it "operation dead meat". Have to assume this is the best political trolling ever.

I really hope it was trolling because if it is it's a masterpiece

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:06 pm

I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:59 pm
Ghanaian foreign office responding to "operation red meat" but call it "operation dead meat". Have to assume this is the best political trolling ever.

I really hope it was trolling because if it is it's a masterpiece

Is it a genuine account? It has a blue tick but difficult to tell.

Rumours swirling that the 'red wall' caucus met today and decided to put in letters to the 1922 Committee en masse,

Red Wall Tories planning ahead!

petej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:12 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:06 pm

I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:59 pm
Ghanaian foreign office responding to "operation red meat" but call it "operation dead meat". Have to assume this is the best political trolling ever.

I really hope it was trolling because if it is it's a masterpiece

Is it a genuine account? It has a blue tick but difficult to tell.

Seems to be genuine. Sir Keir should use operation dead meat at PMQs. He really, really should do that.

SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:17 pm Red Wall Tories planning ahead!

Not going down well with one of the Blonde Slug's "somebodie's" in Cabinet. Bet it's Raab!

SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:50 pm
Not going down well with one of the Blonde Slug's "somebodie's" in Cabinet. Bet it's Raab!

So when they banged on about restoring the sovereignty of parliament it's almost like they didn't mean it

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:57 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:26 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:00 pm It suits the principle contenders to have Scummings be one who takes down the Bumblecunt.

They all know that the one who knocks him off; won't be elected by the Party; but they were all happy to solemnly confirm that if ... .. he lied to the House; that would be a resigning matter.

Yep, with Tories the knifeman never gets the job.

The real danger is he calls a confidence vote on himself; & forces them to support him. They could be stuck with him them for another year, like a millstone of shit around their necks.

That would suit labour.

Sounding grim for Johnson now..full on panic mode in Downing Street.

Red Wall MPs and brexity fuckwit 'Spartans' now against him - he gave em a hard brexit but covid lockdowns didn't please them.

Cummins is apparently going to have a meeting with Gray.
Now this is going to get very very spicy.

It may mean she will have to stop the process and contact the MetifDom spills the beans and suggests a criminal act took place and he is willing to swear as such on oath.

All these lightweights getting involved, like they're allowed an opinion...


Feeling kind of worried that we're in a lose-lose situation now.

If Boris somehow survives this stuff, then I'm not sure that even if he pushed the Queen off London Bridge on her Jubilee Day, he would go or be made to go. And if he stays then we're stuck with these awful people that form this incompetent cabinet for another 2 years. And at some point they'll install enough new millionaire lords to get their nasty agendas through the HOL.

But if he does go, apart from a few enjoyable days of finally seeing some sort of justice on the lying creep, and seeing all the cabinet members back-tracking, we may well end up with even worse creatures in charge. It's not like the Tory-party will transform or even slightly alter itself and its practices within a fortnight, and we're likely to get stuck with many of the same people in or near the top jobs (it'll all be Boris' fault, who lied to the 'poor innocent and hard-working cabinet members'.)

So whatever happens we're most likely to be stuck with incompetent people who have few morals and even less interest in genuinely governing for the good of the country.

I must say its pleasant to read a thread on UK politics without it being destroyed by dribbling idiots

C69 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:23 pm Cummins is apparently going to have a meeting with Gray.
Now this is going to get very very spicy.

It may mean she will have to stop the process and contact the MetifDom spills the beans and suggests a criminal act took place and he is willing to swear as such on oath.

I was going to say I'd expect the Met to contact Cummings themselves but it seems they've delegated their role to a third party.

GogLais wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:06 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:23 pm Cummins is apparently going to have a meeting with Gray.
Now this is going to get very very spicy.

It may mean she will have to stop the process and contact the MetifDom spills the beans and suggests a criminal act took place and he is willing to swear as such on oath.

I was going to say I'd expect the Met to contact Cummings themselves but it seems they've delegated their role to a third party.

Would you put pressure on the person who is the only reason you're in a job after repeated balls up?

Also Sue Gray works for the civil service so ultimately reports to Johnson. This enquiry isn't independent either.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:20 pm

GogLais wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:06 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:23 pm Cummins is apparently going to have a meeting with Gray.
Now this is going to get very very spicy.

It may mean she will have to stop the process and contact the MetifDom spills the beans and suggests a criminal act took place and he is willing to swear as such on oath.

I was going to say I'd expect the Met to contact Cummings themselves but it seems they've delegated their role to a third party.

Would you put pressure on the person who is the only reason you're in a job after repeated balls up?

Also Sue Gray works for the civil service so ultimately reports to Johnson. This enquiry isn't independent either.

I'd guess/hope that given that BJ is now in an even weaker position than when she was appointed she'll be happy to give it both barrels. Who knows, a new PM might appreciate her efforts. To go down the conspiracy route.

SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:50 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:17 pm Red Wall Tories planning ahead!

Not going down well with one of the Blonde Slug's "somebodie's" in Cabinet. Bet it's Raab!

No way that’s Raab

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:13 pm

No way that’s Raab

Why wouldn't it be Raab?

It's very likely to be Nadine, she's he's attack dog and completely loyal to him

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:25 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:13 pm

No way that’s Raab

Why wouldn't it be Raab?

Just not something he would say or get involved with, IMO.

It makes me proud to think that my city gave this country it’s cream. Edwina Currie, Esther Mcvey and Nadine Dorries, it’s our gift to the country.

sefton wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:37 pm It makes me proud to think that my city gave this country it’s cream. Edwina Currie, Esther Mcvey and Nadine Dorries, it’s our gift to the country.

A Powerful argument for birth control for scousers

sefton wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:37 pm It makes me proud to think that my city gave this country it’s cream. Edwina Currie, Esther Mcvey and Nadine Dorries, it’s our gift to the country.

To counter, I raise you a Besse Bradock and Eric Heffer.

I'm kinda surprised that there's really no, new revelation going into this weeks PMQs; but I suppose it could be, because there's both enough to outrage the Public, already out there; & there's no point dropping anything else; until the report comes out; & then new revelations can be dropped; proving that #10; wasn't honest with Sue Gray; & instead hid damaging stuff from her.

The Bumblecunt is going to look even more useless, at the dispatch box tomorrow; as he'll have nothing beyond the lies of last week; & the braying from his own back benches will be even less convincing.

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:35 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:25 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:13 pm

No way that’s Raab

Why wouldn't it be Raab?

Just not something he would say or get involved with, IMO.

Was it Raab who reportedly mouthed, "Fuck off you wanker" to a Today programme host recently when the questions weren't going his way?

I get mixed up with them all, they are all a soup of banality, dangerous right enough, but the self-serving is tedious.

Twitter full of rumours tonight:

C69 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:23 pm Cummins is apparently going to have a meeting with Gray.
Now this is going to get very very spicy.

It may mean she will have to stop the process and contact the MetifDom spills the beans and suggests a criminal act took place and he is willing to swear as such on oath.

She's a fucking spook/MI5 so who knows what could happen

tc27 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:28 pm Twitter full of rumours tonight:

Whatever the truth, that's a quality power move.

Have 54 letters-make the twat fret all night about his response

Don't have 54 letters- say that and know that he's been up all night.

Don't know which I'd prefer