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fishfoodie wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:37 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:31 pm
Slick wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:42 pm What a fucking mess that country is in. End of the empire
Has it ever really been a country? It's a disparate grab bag of areas which are effectively countries themselves, and which barely unite at any time barring once every few years when 40% of the electorate engages in a knife fight with the other 40% over the floating voters to get to see which 40% gets into power, or WW2.
Correction; they didn't unite over WWII.

They would have quite happily have sat it out, & let Europe become a fascist Empire, if the Japanese hadn't bombed Pearl Harbour without first declaring war !
That did cross my mind about three minutes after posting, to be honest.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:34 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:37 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:31 pm

Has it ever really been a country? It's a disparate grab bag of areas which are effectively countries themselves, and which barely unite at any time barring once every few years when 40% of the electorate engages in a knife fight with the other 40% over the floating voters to get to see which 40% gets into power, or WW2.
Correction; they didn't unite over WWII.

They would have quite happily have sat it out, & let Europe become a fascist Empire, if the Japanese hadn't bombed Pearl Harbour without first declaring war !
That did cross my mind about three minutes after posting, to be honest.
I thought you were just mocking the recent Trump WWII gaffe
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dpedin wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:26 pm
And the same fast food restaurants everywhere, every town I have visited has had a Dennys!
Denny's in Japan is the bomb!
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inactionman wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:03 am
Blackmac wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:59 am I see Trump valued Mar-a-lago at $26 million for tax purposes but over $1billion when trying to secure loans.
:lol:

He really is utterly shameless
Yeah but Eric reckons it is worth maybe 100 times the $18m valuation the court found valid, so dumbo’s valuation would be $1.8bn.
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Both appeals to the NY Appeals court thrown out; so the rest of the civil fraud trial will proceed on Monday, & the grim reaper can start sharpening his scythe for the Traitors businesses.

I'd actually forgotten that this was the case where the Traitor pled the 5h on 400 occasions during the depositions; so apparently he isn't so adamant as to the correctness of his valuations when he's under oath, as when he's on his shitty SM platform.

It also rather shows why the Judge, & the Appeal court judges are driving ahead & ignoring the noise.
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6 hour impeachment hearing yesterday the eve before government shut down. Even had Fox News reporting that there was no evidence presented to support impeaching Biden.

The GOP has no fucking clue what it's doing at the moment, just madly flinging shit like a confused chimp and hoping that some of it sticks.

It did produce this gem, though.



Her, Fetterman, AOC and Porter; there are some Dems in the newer intakes who are done with trying to be polite with the Christo-fascists and much more effective at calling them out. It's influencing the administration with Pete Buttigieg and Biden's official accounts getting sassy from time to time. Someone in the communications team is embracing 'Dark Brandon'.

Waiting for some of this energy to cross the pond and hit Labour. A bit more cut and thrust about the abject failure of the Tories and their distraction tactics would be welcome.
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The first domino has fallen in Georgia !

A bail bonds man called Scott Hall, who was one of the idiots who stole election data,, & copied Dominion voting s/w, pleaded guilty today to a number of misdemeanors. So now when the speedy trials against the kracken moron, & Chesebro, start in a few weeks, the moron is cooked !, because she was the one who got him involved.

This will in turn force the other small fish to either flip, or go spend a decade or so in State prison .... and so the dominos will keep falling, & eventually you'll get to a domino that will put one of the big fish into the position of deciding to cooperate, or only seeing their grandchildren on visiting day.
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The sprog and I spent an hour or so wandering the streets south of Rodeo Drive a few months ago, just being nosy. There were lots of top end motors parked out front of many swank abodes, but we didn't see anyone trying to steal them at gunpoint. Could've been an off day.
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TB63 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:29 am Wot????

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1707874837665026325?s=20

Really??? Who'd have thought this...

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1707868632561115375?s=20

Vigilante death penalty for shoplifters..

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1707875014270177362?s=20
He sounds like someone's loopy Grandad, has lost the edge to his delivery that made him a loopy but forceful speaker.
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Putin will be delighted with this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66973976
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geordie_6 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:14 am
TB63 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:29 am Wot????

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1707874837665026325?s=20

Really??? Who'd have thought this...

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1707868632561115375?s=20

Vigilante death penalty for shoplifters..

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1707875014270177362?s=20
He sounds like someone's loopy Grandad, has lost the edge to his delivery that made him a loopy but forceful speaker.
He's certainly looking a little more cray cray. The eyes look a little divorced from the insides of his head.
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Uncle fester wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:26 pm Putin will be delighted with this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66973976
Just reinforces the belief that with the rise of the MAGA movement America is an unreliable ally, and that European countries needs to get their shit together
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Guy Smiley wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:34 am
geordie_6 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:14 am
TB63 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:29 am Wot????

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1707874837665026325?s=20

Really??? Who'd have thought this...

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1707868632561115375?s=20

Vigilante death penalty for shoplifters..

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1707875014270177362?s=20
He sounds like someone's loopy Grandad, has lost the edge to his delivery that made him a loopy but forceful speaker.
He's certainly looking a little more cray cray. The eyes look a little divorced from the insides of his head.
If you were linked with the inside of that head, wouldn't you be pushing for separation? 🤣
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Uncle fester wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:26 pm Putin will be delighted with this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66973976
I'm not fully up on Executive Orders. Could Biden potentially use an EO to release 'x' amount of dollars worth of funding given the Republicans already hate him, or are there limits on them with spending etc?
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Donald J. Trump

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JUST ARRIVED AT THE COURTHOUSE TO FIGHT A CORRUPT & RACIST ATTORNEY GENERAL, AND A ROGUE, OUT OF CONTROL, TRUMP HATING JUDGE, WHO REFUSES TO FOLLOW THE APPELLATE COURT DECISION WHICH KNOKS OUT 80% OF THIS SHAM CASE. THIS IS THE CONTINUATION OF THE GREATEST WITCH HUNT OF ALL TIME. ELECTION INTERFERENCE!
Knok yourself out..

https://x.com/KlasfeldReports/status/17 ... 50512?s=20

Key piece of context:

Justice Engoron just noted in court that "nobody asked for" a jury trial, which is why he'll be presiding over Trump's $250M civil fraud case without one.
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McCarthy gooooooing.....
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https://www.threads.net/@meidastouch/post/Cx8quaBvZHi

Trump deleted his Truth Social post today attacking the Judge's clerk after he was reportedly brought back to a closed courtroom during the lunch break. Judge Engoron has now issued a GAG ORDER against Trump to prevent him from attacking members of his staff.
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TB63 wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 7:48 pm https://www.threads.net/@meidastouch/post/Cx8quaBvZHi

Trump deleted his Truth Social post today attacking the Judge's clerk after he was reportedly brought back to a closed courtroom during the lunch break. Judge Engoron has now issued a GAG ORDER against Trump to prevent him from attacking members of his staff.
Take away his mouthpiece, then his money, then his freedom.
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McCarthy gone as speaker. The GOP dumpster fire continues.
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:02 pm
TB63 wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 7:48 pm https://www.threads.net/@meidastouch/post/Cx8quaBvZHi

Trump deleted his Truth Social post today attacking the Judge's clerk after he was reportedly brought back to a closed courtroom during the lunch break. Judge Engoron has now issued a GAG ORDER against Trump to prevent him from attacking members of his staff.
Take away his mouthpiece, then his money, then his freedom.
Like all bullies he's a cowardly shit; & he heard the sound of a prison door slamming behind him after his chat with the Judge.
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Vote just in... McCarthy gooooone... :lol: :lol:
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Kevin McCarthy gooooone!

Worst speaker evah has lost his gavel. The speakership is now vacant.

What a monumental fuck up. The GOP couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery, let alone govern.
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https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/170936 ... 52325?s=20
NEWS - As one of his first acts as the acting speaker, Rep. Patrick McHenry ordered former Speaker Nancy Pelosi to vacate her Capitol hideaway office by Wednesday

“Please vacate the space tomorrow, the room will be re-keyed"

While she is at a funeral mourning the death of her friend.
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TB63 wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:08 am https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/170936 ... 52325?s=20
NEWS - As one of his first acts as the acting speaker, Rep. Patrick McHenry ordered former Speaker Nancy Pelosi to vacate her Capitol hideaway office by Wednesday

“Please vacate the space tomorrow, the room will be re-keyed"

While she is at a funeral mourning the death of her friend.
What are the norms here for keeping an office, and for notice on being asked to close an office?

Also what are the risks in asking for an office to be shut in speedy fashion?
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Don't think he was a happy bunny.... :shock:

https://x.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/17093 ... 41258?s=20

It's a point of decorum that the previous speaker has office space allocated to them..
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He's never actually had a real job that wasn't politics I believe?
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I don't pretend to know much about how American politics work, or this particularly case really. But, isn't this over McCarthy allowing a spending deal through to avoid a government shutdown (again)?

If that's the case, wouldn't it be wiser for the Democrats to keep him there? Also, wasn't this a perfect opportunity for the Democrats to de-escalate the nonsense and try to get some bipartisan good will going forward, particularly with Trump on the horizon again?
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Slick wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:33 pm I don't pretend to know much about how American politics work, or this particularly case really. But, isn't this over McCarthy allowing a spending deal through to avoid a government shutdown (again)?

If that's the case, wouldn't it be wiser for the Democrats to keep him there? Also, wasn't this a perfect opportunity for the Democrats to de-escalate the nonsense and try to get some bipartisan good will going forward, particularly with Trump on the horizon again?
I wondered exactly the same. Presumably they think the republicans will chew themselves to bits trying to agree anything.
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fishfoodie wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:33 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:02 pm
TB63 wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 7:48 pm https://www.threads.net/@meidastouch/post/Cx8quaBvZHi

Trump deleted his Truth Social post today attacking the Judge's clerk after he was reportedly brought back to a closed courtroom during the lunch break. Judge Engoron has now issued a GAG ORDER against Trump to prevent him from attacking members of his staff.
Take away his mouthpiece, then his money, then his freedom.
Like all bullies he's a cowardly shit; & he heard the sound of a prison door slamming behind him after his chat with the Judge.
It's actually incredible that during a trial he can go out at lunch, call the judge corrupt and threaten the investigating DA. Any other western jurisdiction he is going straight to jail.
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Slick wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:33 pm I don't pretend to know much about how American politics work, or this particularly case really. But, isn't this over McCarthy allowing a spending deal through to avoid a government shutdown (again)?

If that's the case, wouldn't it be wiser for the Democrats to keep him there? Also, wasn't this a perfect opportunity for the Democrats to de-escalate the nonsense and try to get some bipartisan good will going forward, particularly with Trump on the horizon again?
I think he was an arsehole to them when they tried to find a bipartisan way forward when he was trying to be elected speaker in the first place earlier this year (that took 13 votes before his own party would back him). So they thought fuck'im.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:45 pm
Slick wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:33 pm I don't pretend to know much about how American politics work, or this particularly case really. But, isn't this over McCarthy allowing a spending deal through to avoid a government shutdown (again)?

If that's the case, wouldn't it be wiser for the Democrats to keep him there? Also, wasn't this a perfect opportunity for the Democrats to de-escalate the nonsense and try to get some bipartisan good will going forward, particularly with Trump on the horizon again?
I think he was an arsehole to them when they tried to find a bipartisan way forward when he was trying to be elected speaker in the first place earlier this year (that took 13 votes before his own party would back him). So they thought fuck'im.
Yeah, understand the guy is a total dick. But saving a grifter like that his job, and the goodwill it might engender with the other 200 Republicans, seems like something to at least consider. Now it's just same old, same old.

Also appreciate this is predicated on politicians being grown ups and not sociopathic children, so I guess that's probably my answer anyway.
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Slick wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:33 pm I don't pretend to know much about how American politics work, or this particularly case really. But, isn't this over McCarthy allowing a spending deal through to avoid a government shutdown (again)?

If that's the case, wouldn't it be wiser for the Democrats to keep him there? Also, wasn't this a perfect opportunity for the Democrats to de-escalate the nonsense and try to get some bipartisan good will going forward, particularly with Trump on the horizon again?
Equally it could have been the time for McCarthy to cross the aisle and say what do I need to put on the table for 50 votes or even for 100 votes. But such as I understand it he was looking to play just on his side of the sandpit.

And actually we don't know what overtures if any were sought, nor what terms might have been sought.
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Slick wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:33 pm I don't pretend to know much about how American politics work, or this particularly case really. But, isn't this over McCarthy allowing a spending deal through to avoid a government shutdown (again)?

If that's the case, wouldn't it be wiser for the Democrats to keep him there? Also, wasn't this a perfect opportunity for the Democrats to de-escalate the nonsense and try to get some bipartisan good will going forward, particularly with Trump on the horizon again?
There's no chance of that at all. Even if individual Republicans were willing to try and break bread with the Dems, the MAGAites among them and in their voter base wouldn't brook it.

It's also not just about this incident, basically since the Tea Party started making ground the Republicans have been going out of their way not to work the with Democrats and trying to draw them into 'meet me in the middle' while taking giant backwards steps so that the meeting isn't possible.
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Blackmac wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:42 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:33 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:02 pm

Take away his mouthpiece, then his money, then his freedom.
Like all bullies he's a cowardly shit; & he heard the sound of a prison door slamming behind him after his chat with the Judge.
It's actually incredible that during a trial he can go out at lunch, call the judge corrupt and threaten the investigating DA. Any other western jurisdiction he is going straight to jail.
Rumor has it that the Judge dangled 30 days in Rikers in front of him, as to what, "serious consequences", looked like.

So none of this, & few grand of a fine, or 5 minutes in the holding cells, waiting for the bus, & a quick purging of contempt, before freedom bollocks.
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So Drump scuttles off to Mar a Lardo after 2.5 days after claiming he couldn't attend his disposition with Michael Cohen as he would be in court all week.. Let's see if he tries to squirm out of that again.. After all, he's the one who brought the case..
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Drump drops his 500 million dollar lawsuit against Cohen to avoid sitting for a deposition..
Given that President Trump is required to sit for deposition in a civil matter on Columbus Day, when he is scheduled to be in the Great State of New Hampshire, and while the President is fighting against the meritless claims that have been lodged against him in New York, Washington D.C., Florida, and Georgia, as well as continuing his winning campaign, where he is leading the Republicans by 60 points and Crooked Joe Biden by 11 points, to serve as our next President of the United States, President Trump has decided to temporarily pause his meritorious claims against Michael Cohen. Once President Trump has prevailed in dealing with the witch hunts against him, he will continue to pursue his claims against Michael Cohen, who rightfully deserves to, and will be held accountable for his unlawful words and actions just as the Southern District of New York held him accountable for numerous non - Trump related acts and crimes, making Cohen a very "proud" felon.
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Great news out of the Southern District of Florida tonight: Rather than be deposed by Danya Perry on Monday, Donald J. Trump voluntarily dismissed his $500 million lawsuit against our client Michael Cohen. From: Michael Cohen: As I have said from the beginning: this case was nothing more than a retaliatory intimidation tactic, and his attempt to hide from routine discovery procedures confirms as much. Mr. Trump's cowardly dismissal spells the end of this latest attempt to deter me from providing truthful testimony against him. My legal team and I now look forward to turning our full attention to holding Mr. Trump accountable for his latest abuse of the legal system. More to come.
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Zzzzziiiiiinnnngggg..,

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